Hey guys and girls,
my S4 mini dosn't have alot of internal memory after I flash any of these roms? - I did try google and it said to find and remove the log files mostly (which I have done to no avial)
Is this normal? - Its annoying me because I can only have a few big apps, so I cant have any / many games or I have to uninstall something else?
InFam0us-1985 said:
Hey guys and girls,
my S4 mini dosn't have alot of internal memory after I flash any of these roms? - I did try google and it said to find and remove the log files mostly (which I have done to no avial)
Is this normal? - Its annoying me because I can only have a few big apps, so I cant have any / many games or I have to uninstall something else?
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Depends on what you mean by "doesn't have a lot of internal memory". Give some more details.
Normal the other culprites are also the thumbnail folder (of pictures) delete using an explorer that shows hidden folders (you won't loose your actual pictures), or the LOST.dir, delete that.
It is maybe more general question :
Is there any place where are old firmware files are stored?
My gf S4 is rooted now by me, but before she had questions about update and she never choose yes. I am trying to free up some space as for now it is only 650 MB free on internal. Ofcourse I move all apps ( which was possible) to SD. Clear dalvik cache and cache partition.
It is on stock rom.
@mazak23
/cache
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use file explorer with root
well I always Clear dalvik cache and cache partition from recovery before a flash - aswell as system and data? (I forget the names of them)
my internal storage is: 4.07 gb used out of 5.26gb
I dont know what more info you mean tho?
try DiskUsage from the Play Store. It will display how much internal space is used by each app/folder.
You can use flex storage/adaptable storage part of Marshmallow's new feature. You can google it for more. Simply put, you format your micro sd card to make it device specific, from then on it acts as if it's internal storage. Note that you can no longer hotswap the card to another device.
InFam0us-1985 said:
well I always Clear dalvik cache and cache partition from recovery before a flash - aswell as system and data? (I forget the names of them)
my internal storage is: 4.07 gb used out of 5.26gb
I dont know what more info you mean tho?
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4.07 gb used out of 5.26gb seems pretty normal ....... though mine is only about 3.3GB now as all camera & vids are set to save to external storage.
I mean what folders are big, or bigger than you would normally expect. Tap internal storage to show folders or better still use an app like l0tz1009 says so you can find all files and it shows details of how big they are, dates etc
Using settings/storage/ will show very basic info but gives the following. "Apps" this is normally quite big as that's where your apps go, mine takes up about 3GB. "Images", "Video", "Audio" can be big depending how you use your phone & storage (all mine are small as camera saves to my external SD) if any of them are excessive you may need to go through and delete or move photos or whatever. Then you get "other" this should normally be quite small, mine is only 487MB, & also cached data, mine is only 280MB. Sometimes these last two get very big, "other" is where I had the problem with "thumbnails" which were taking up over 2GB. But you might have a rouge app writing big data files or something, if so clear data for all apps or just data for rogue app.
Edit: dalvik, cache etc will not affect your storage partition size as separate partitions.
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You can use flex storage/adaptable storage part of Marshmallow's new feature. You can google it for more. Simply put, you format your micro sd card to make it device specific, from then on it acts as if it's internal storage. Note that you can no longer hotswap the card to another device.
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Think I will invest in a bigger SDcard then
Thanks guys
Thanks too, since I had the same issue but didn't look into it until you'd mentioned it in your post.
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The answer will probably be a yes but I want to make sure.....I partitioned my sd card to free up some hardware space and I ended up with 122mb on device.
My question is, do software updates load onto the phone memory? I flashed a keyboard, radio and icons off the card and now the memory has went down to 102mb.
Thanks in advance,
Paul.
It actually seems to be going down a few mb at a time, thought this **** would end after I binned the BlackBerry..........
You could of searched there is plenty of topics on this ...... when you use apps2sd+, /data/app/ and the dalvik cache are moved to the sd-ext, the /data/data/ directory remains on the device, this directory is used to store all app data, thats why your internal storage goes down
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Yes there is a small amount of internal space still used but not much.
You will be able to install a lot of apps untill you run out of space. Much more than before.
Another trick you could try that I just did is applying the custom MTD partitions mod (do a search in the development thread) and this will give you some more memory to play with (I have 70 apps installed and still have 108MB Free!)
Hi. I was just wondering what are the steps in order to install applications on the SD card. I know it's something about "App2SD" or "App2SD+". I tried searching the forum for answers, but the search returned an overwhelming amount of threads since almost every thread has a little something about App2SD =/. And what's the difference between App2SD and App2SD+; I think I read somewhere it's about the dalvik-cache. Also, what IS dalvik-cache and how it differs from "cache". Also, I know we format the memory card into Fat32 + EXT; so the applications are installed in the EXT partition?
Edit: And while we're at it, what is Data2SD or Data2Anywhere?
Go into the Desire Android Development forum and have a look around there. Just go through it till you find something and read on it.
As far as I understand, App2SD+ moves the Dalvik cache, I think. I have no idea what it is but it's a cache so pretty selfexplanatory. Apps do get installed on the ext partition. Data2SD moves a lot more data to the SD card, a lot more in fact.
I can't give you a definate answer because I personally don't like it. I have tried to get it to work but it's a pain in the arse to do so I gave in. Like I said, have a look around the Desire Android Development forum because there are quite a few topics. Just to get you started.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859419
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719151
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867049
apps2sd is pretty much the same as apps2sd+, as far as I read...
All it does is move the dalvik cache to the SD card = frees up memory on the internal phone so it'll run faster, and leave more room for the apps that cannot be installed on SD.
You are correct. The bulk of your SD card will be fat32. This is where your music, porn, and pictures will go (tee hee lol). The EXT2/3/or 4 partition is where the apps will be installed to. Typically it's recommended to have between 256MB to 512MB. To do partition this, you can do a semi-complicated procedure through GParted on a computer, or you can just go to the Market, download "Rom Manager" and once installed, it can partition it for you in a matter of about 1 minute. After it's partitioned, you can go ahead and install any ROM that supports APPS2SD/+ and enjoy it's feature(s).
Please note that there is still a massive amount of applications that cannot be installed/author hasn't coded it to be installed on the SD.
EDIT: Data2SD = Each application will grow in size the more you use it. For example, the more you use internet explorer, the more random little cache data will be stored. Thus, the 2MB (I don't know the actual size of the app., this is just for example's sake) internet app. will balloon into a 20MB app. So Data2SD will keep the applications on the phone's internal memory, but will move their data (or cache, etc) to the SDCard. This is another method of saving that ever-precious internal memory, but comes with a speed disadvantage when compared to Apps2SD, so I've read.
Cheers!
True for the most part, except that all downloaded are moved to the ext partition regardless if they are froyo a2sd compatible. If a app supports froyo a2sd usually a bigger part of the app can be moved but all apps are moved. Also you don't want to move the apps to the sd via manager applications because that basically moves them from ext to fat.
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GoogleJelly said:
Go into the Desire Android Development forum and have a look around there. Just go through it till you find something and read on it.
As far as I understand, App2SD+ moves the Dalvik cache, I think. I have no idea what it is but it's a cache so pretty selfexplanatory. Apps do get installed on the ext partition. Data2SD moves a lot more data to the SD card, a lot more in fact.
I can't give you a definate answer because I personally don't like it. I have tried to get it to work but it's a pain in the arse to do so I gave in. Like I said, have a look around the Desire Android Development forum because there are quite a few topics. Just to get you started.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859419
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719151
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867049
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Those are very detailed threads man, I've got a lot of reading to do =).
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apps2sd is pretty much the same as apps2sd+, as far as I read...
All it does is move the dalvik cache to the SD card = frees up memory on the internal phone so it'll run faster, and leave more room for the apps that cannot be installed on SD.
You are correct. The bulk of your SD card will be fat32. This is where your music, porn, and pictures will go (tee hee lol). The EXT2/3/or 4 partition is where the apps will be installed to. Typically it's recommended to have between 256MB to 512MB. To do partition this, you can do a semi-complicated procedure through GParted on a computer, or you can just go to the Market, download "Rom Manager" and once installed, it can partition it for you in a matter of about 1 minute. After it's partitioned, you can go ahead and install any ROM that supports APPS2SD/+ and enjoy it's feature(s).
Please note that there is still a massive amount of applications that cannot be installed/author hasn't coded it to be installed on the SD.
EDIT: Data2SD = Each application will grow in size the more you use it. For example, the more you use internet explorer, the more random little cache data will be stored. Thus, the 2MB (I don't know the actual size of the app., this is just for example's sake) internet app. will balloon into a 20MB app. So Data2SD will keep the applications on the phone's internal memory, but will move their data (or cache, etc) to the SDCard. This is another method of saving that ever-precious internal memory, but comes with a speed disadvantage when compared to Apps2SD, so I've read.
Cheers!
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Ya I've had my fair share with GParted... Data2SD sounds pretty good, but I guess I'll go with App2SD+ for the time being.
TheGhost1233 said:
True for the most part, except that all downloaded are moved to the ext partition regardless if they are froyo a2sd compatible. If a app supports froyo a2sd usually a bigger part of the app can be moved but all apps are moved. Also you don't want to move the apps to the sd via manager applications because that basically moves them from ext to fat.
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Manager applications? Like what? AppBrain for instance?
a2sd+ works performance wise much better for me than data2sd / data2ext
titanium backup can manage that too iirc
I meant the manage applications from within the normal settings menu (settings-applications-manage applications). There you have the option to move them to the sd or to the phone on if they are already on the sd. In this menu they need to be on the phone.
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I meant the manage applications from within the normal settings menu (settings-applications-manage applications). There you have the option to move them to the sd or to the phone on if they are already on the sd. In this menu they need to be on the phone.
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Oh oh, ya ok. I never tried moving them using the Manage Applications and I guess I'll never will =/.
Just be careful not to force any app. over to SD. There are those apps that are meant to stay on the internal partition. If you do some reading and find, "Oh, wicked, Titanium Backup can force all apps to SD" - DON'T force apps over that aren't meant to be forced, otherwise they will not work. Figured that out myself hehe
Good luck!
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Just be careful not to force any app. over to SD. There are those apps that are meant to stay on the internal partition. If you do some reading and find, "Oh, wicked, Titanium Backup can force all apps to SD" - DON'T force apps over that aren't meant to be forced, otherwise they will not work. Figured that out myself hehe
Good luck!
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Thanks, I'll keep that mind.
I'm sorry but, after all this information, um, how do I actually USE App2SD+? How do I choose whether to install the apps to the SD-EXT or to the internal memory?
Edit: Ok so from what I've gathered after a bit of searching, the custom ROM I'm running on (which should support App2SD+) should automatically move apps to SD? So how can I view the list of apps installed on the SD? And, if it is possible, how can I move them back?
Yep the ROM will manage what goes where. When picking a ROM just take note of what it uses whether it be a2sd/a2sd+/d2ext etc as this is what you'll be using. The data2xx ones are a little more experimental and probably not recommended at this point if you still need to ask these questions (no offence meant, I avoid them too lol).
There's no definitive list of what's on SD, much like you can't move them around because the app will actually be spread between NAND and EXT depending on exactly what it needs. You don't need to ever move them around though TBH.
If moving between ROM's a simple titanium backup will cover your apps and the new ROM will manage where they go.
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Yep the ROM will manage what goes where. When picking a ROM just take note of what it uses whether it be a2sd/a2sd+/d2ext etc as this is what you'll be using. The data2xx ones are a little more experimental and probably not recommended at this point if you still need to ask these questions (no offence meant, I avoid them too lol).
There's no definitive list of what's on SD, much like you can't move them around because the app will actually be spread between NAND and EXT depending on exactly what it needs. You don't need to ever move them around though TBH.
If moving between ROM's a simple titanium backup will cover your apps and the new ROM will manage where they go.
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None taken =). But I just like to know about most features even if I'm not going to use them =).
Anyway, the reason I ask for a way to move them around is because now my widgets are not loading, they give me the "Problem loading widget" error after rebooting the phone... I guess this error appears because they're installed on the SD...that's why I wanna move them back to the internal phone. I can even uninstall the widgets then reinstall them making sure they're on the internal memory, but I don't know how to do that either =/.
Ok, i have just finished re-installing all my apps after flashing AceSMod007-3D, the first A2SD+ ROM i have used, and i am already running out of space. I have noticed that any "phone only" apps i download seem to be placed on the internal memory whilst anything movable seems to be placed on the EXT partition and doesn't decrease internal space at all. Is this how A2SD+ is supposed to work? Is my only option to free up more space to delete some of my phone only apps?
I've just rooted and installed AceSMod007 (v33) and im also confused by what goes to SD-Ext4 vs Internal... so far it is hitting Internal, although one app does have the SEND 2 SD option but not sure if that means to the FAT32 or Ext4 partition.
so well confused so far... im holding off customising the phone until i have a better idea.
Open titanium backup, it should show u system memory, internal memory, sd-ext memory and sd card memory..If the app2sd is working u should see that sd-ext is not empty
Leave away the SEND 2 SD option..this is the android stock move to sd, not the app2sd
Its definitely sending apps that were already movable to the EXT partition, but i was under the impression that A2SD+ meant that apps that previously weren't movable would now be able to be spread over the EXT partition as well. If all it does is send the movable apps there automatically then its basically the same as stock A2SD, just without the need to move them yourself
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Its definitely sending apps that were already movable to the EXT partition, but i was under the impression that A2SD+ meant that apps that previously weren't movable would now be able to be spread over the EXT partition as well. If all it does is send the movable apps there automatically then its basically the same as stock A2SD, just without the need to move them yourself
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NO, that is the stock move to sd: mean a part of the app can be moved on the sd card fat32 partition, it doesn't allow every app to be moved, and the app is partially on the sd card
The a2sd move every app u install on the ext partition, is not in ur sdcard fat32 partition..it move completely the apk on the ext partition..so the space saved is enough (u will STILL see that the app can be moved on the sd card..but u HAVE to leave it on the internal memory to make the a2sd/a2sd+ fully work)
ok .. but why does the Internal Memory indicate decrease (by megs) if it is installing on EXT. I can see my game is on SD-EXT/APP but Internal went down by 3megs.
kazgor said:
ok .. but why does the Internal Memory indicate decrease (by megs) if it is installing on EXT. I can see my game is on SD-EXT/APP but Internal went down by 3megs.
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The data saved from each app (settings, preferences) is still on the internal memory /data/data so that probably is normal if the games need to save a lot of things
Btw how much is ur free internal memory?
its now 108MB of 148MB, with only Mini Info and HyperJump Installed
Its definitely not just the data. one of the apps i install is 7.5mb and 450kb of data. it decreases the internal space by 7.95mb in total after an install, NONE of the app what so ever is going to the EXT partition, and i suspect there are several other apps doing the same thing
quick system info will show the a2sd size
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its now 108MB of 148MB, with only Mini Info and HyperJump Installed
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then? even if u uninstall hyperjump and mini info, u will see that u will never have 148 mb free!
try installing all of ur apps...u will see that it does't decrease too much
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Its definitely not just the data. one of the apps i install is 7.5mb and 450kb of data. it decreases the internal space by 7.95mb in total after an install, NONE of the app what so ever is going to the EXT partition, and i suspect there are several other apps doing the same thing
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if u install from the market an application, it will be downloaded on ur internal memory..that the space that u see probably
restore all ur apps, and stop looking for a mb more or less..u will have lots of space available..if this is not the case then u did something wrong.
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then? even if u uninstall hyperjump and mini info, u will see that u will never have 148 mb free!
try installing all of ur apps...u will see that it does't decrease too much
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yes.. from a fresh install of the ROM it started with around 111mb free, so yeah you are correct never will get the 148mb back.. but then the Stock Rom DID have 148mb free so that like 37mb lost from the get go.
Its all new to me this apsd+ stuff so i'll start install Apps and see how far i get, on stock i HAD to use Froyo "Send to SD" to get everything installed.
thanks.
kazgor said:
yes.. from a fresh install of the ROM it started with around 111mb free, so yeah you are correct never will get the 148mb back.. but then the Stock Rom DID have 148mb free so that like 37mb lost from the get go.
Its all new to me this apsd+ stuff so i'll start install Apps and see how far i get, on stock i HAD to use Froyo "Send to SD" to get everything installed.
thanks.
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could it be you have a few extra bits thrown in (app wise) with your rom that is taking up extra space?
afaik apps2sd+ you should leave everything on internal
ok this was a good read.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7458565&postcount=8
it kind of implies that because there a symbolic link from NAND/Apps to sd-ext/apps, the phone thinks apps are still internal so will reduce the freespace indicated in Settings --> SD & Phone Storage
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if u install from the market an application, it will be downloaded on ur internal memory..that the space that u see probably
restore all ur apps, and stop looking for a mb more or less..u will have lots of space available..if this is not the case then u did something wrong.
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Well obviously something is wrong, as i have installed around 30 apps and i'm already out of internal memory.
Galaxy s3 T999 tmobile phone.
Liquid Smooth ROM. - Amazing rom btw. I cant thank those folks enough for their brilliant work
TWRP for recovery
Ive done numerous dalvic/system/cache/data wipes through twrp in preparation for new roms. But my INTERNAL 16 gb SD card always shows that i have around 12GB USED. thats with no personal apps installed
Heres my question. How do i remove all unnecessary data thats hogging up space. I want a CLEAN space to work with!
I do have 4 twrp recovery files (4gb worth of data?) stored in there. Im assuming the system uses about 3 gb's. plus the gapps and liquid rom are only 194 mb combined. So that accounts for maybe 7 or 8 gb
So how do i do a totally clean wipe without losing twrp, recovery files AND root!
the only wipe option ive never used is USB-OTG. (USB On The Go?) No idea what it is or what it does. so i never messed with it. Ive read that it acts like a driver of some sort to allow usb devices to communicate with each other..
Ive also never gone into the Format data section of twrp out of fear that i might wipe the wrong things and render my phone useless
One article i read said that i might have to revert back to stock? im hoping thats not so. And do a factory wipe. Is that different from TWRP's functions? Im assuming that i would lose root.
they said din flash to stock
Odin master clear (or wipe SD from settings)
*2767*3855# on the phones keypad ...(i think codes in general only work on stock TW)
Do i have to format the sd card? would i lose important partitions that would delete the recovery system?
any ideas? i considered opening a partition wizard app to see the different partions on the internal sd card.
I'm no expert on this, but I think that Liquid Smooth has a place in Settings to let you view the space allocation of the storage in your phone and external SD card.
Go to Settings > Storage (or something similar) and take a look at how much space is being allocated of each of the different types of data. It might give you a better idea on what might be taking up that additional ~4GB of space.
If you can, provide us with a screenshot of the Storage screen. If not, you can just type them here so we can better understand what might be going on.
Back up internal sdcard to your computer.
Wipe data/factory reset.
Wipe /data/media.
You can do this through TWRP. Won't lose anything except contents of your internal sdcard. Which is why you back it up first.
Don't forget the formatting of the filesystem does this. Just like windows a 100gig hard drive formats to a smaller amount.
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I've tried the several of the 4.4.4 CM11, ominrom, and currently the carbonrom. All of them I'm having trouble getting several, if any, apps to the sd card.
The only apps that will go are messenger and terminal. The rest stay on the internal drive. However, even after flashing, I'm only left with 100mb to install apps on. After I run the gapps, there's not enough space to install more than one or two apps and the phone is pretty slow. It seems to be a common problem but I've done a ton of reading and believe I've followed all the instructions.
-partitioned exactly how the guide says using 4ext. no problems. ( my card is 64GB)
-a2sd via terminal also works
-my sd card shows in storage
Any help would be appreciated.
- How big is the partition, should be max 2GB.
- Install diskusage app, enable root and browse to your sd-ext partition, check that it is being used, should see /app and /dalvik-cache folders if setup correctly
- your internal memory won't read 'internal + sd-ext'. Keep apps on internal to trick them to sd-ext, so do not 'move to sd'
Thanks... I did a 1GB partition and re: your suggestion, it looks like I have everything is in order.
Does that mean the internal memory is just full with the ROM installation? Should I look at using an older/smaller rom?
rspear said:
Thanks... I did a 1GB partition and re: your suggestion, it looks like I have everything is in order.
Does that mean the internal memory is just full with the ROM installation? Should I look at using an older/smaller rom?
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You have ~1GB space for apps and dalvik-cache.
When it says 100MB remaining, this does not mean you have 100MB left for apps. This will be used for app data like app settings / saved game data, and app caches. It will still fill up the more you install, but more slowly. Again you can use the diskusage app to browse your /data partition.
The limiting factor is that your are still on stock hboot with only ~147MB actual internal memory (the same as before you rooted)
You can flash a different hboot (requires S-OFF), then flash a corresponding older ROM with smaller /system size like CM7 or Oxygen. That along with equivalent a2sd script will give you more app space. You will always eventually run out of space though
Awesome! Thanks for your time.