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NEWBIE ALERT: preparing to root

So I read the Stickies, I read the idiot proof - im simply overwhelmed.
I guess I need another breakdown and to make sure everything on those guide is updated, link working, etc...
Question #1: I don't know what Version I am on, can I root?
Question #2: I don't know what Radio update im on, can I root?
Question #2b: Do I update Radio Before Root?
Question #2c: Link to the latest Radio and how to update Radio if unrooted?
Question #3: Anything else I need before going to the Idiot Proof Guide?
Question #4: On the Idiot Guide - it states I can skip if im not bacing up any Apps.
Is there any particular apps worth backing up? Or does he simply means, any apps I have downloaded from the market - to back them up if needed??
Anything else I should know?
thank you

1: To check the version go to settings/about phone/software information. All versions are currently rootable but depending on the version you may have to take different steps.
2: You can check your radio in the same menu as #1. Yes you can root and then flash latest radio after.
2b: Root first then flash latest radio.
2c: Once rooted go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
if you follow those instructions you will be rooted on stock rom with latest radios. Thats a good starting point and from there you can go ahead and flash any other roms.
3:Read more this never hurts
4: If your referring to the idiot guide done by the Biles note that it only works for those rooting pre 1.47. If your on 1.47 I would suggest you root using simple root app. That can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720565
lastly check out this read, I think it is the most comprehensive root guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=721055
the above thread has video and explains differences with rooting different versions.

sorry I havent checked back since I posted.
Anyways this is my info:
Firmware 2.1-update1
Baseband Version (what is this): 1.39.00.05.31
Kernel Version: 2.6.29-a2443432
Build number: 1.32.651.6
Software number: same as build
Browser Version: WebKit 3.1
PRI version 1.40_003
PRL version: 60665
what is PRI and PRL?

87Octane said:
1: To check the version go to settings/about phone/software information. All versions are currently rootable but depending on the version you may have to take different steps.
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Hold on there - I don't think all versions are currently rootable. I think it would have been big news if they found root for 2.2. - I don't think I would have missed that

grrgrrgrr said:
sorry I havent checked back since I posted.
Anyways this is my info:
Firmware 2.1-update1
Baseband Version (what is this): 1.39.00.05.31
Kernel Version: 2.6.29-a2443432
Build number: 1.32.651.6
Software number: same as build
Browser Version: WebKit 3.1
PRI version 1.40_003
PRL version: 60665
what is PRI and PRL?
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don't worry about pri and prl. A lot of folk think its a big deal, but I don't think it really matters.
Use the 1 click simpleroot method - it's the easiest, then follow the instructions given above by 87Octane

fachadick said:
don't worry about pri and prl. A lot of folk think its a big deal, but I don't think it really matters.
Use the 1 click simpleroot method - it's the easiest, then follow the instructions given above by 87Octane
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im pre 1.47 so simple root doesn't work.
currently trying to download the PC36IMG for the past hour..
it keeps stopping at 114MB - stupid gay laptop and connection...

fachadick said:
Hold on there - I don't think all versions are currently rootable. I think it would have been big news if they found root for 2.2. - I don't think I would have missed that
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his post was on july 29

Shyfe said:
his post was on july 29
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lol - didn't even realize that this thread was brought back from the dead

well I am the OP so im allowed to ressurect my thread since I was unable to follow up after 87octane post, that and im pulling my newbie card

Not able to root replacement Evo

I had my phone exchanged at the Sprint store yesterday (7/29/30) and have tried every method on the forums with no success. I'm at a lose for what to do. I'd rather not do the official update but if I can't get root I might as well.
HBoot - 0.79.0000
Radio - 2.05.00.06.10
Firmware version - 2.1 update1
Build - 1.47.651.1 CL195459 release-keys
PRI - 1.40_003
Everything seems to be around the PC36IMG.zip both Toast, Simple Root, and unrevoked get to the same point and get this message.
Main Version is older!
Update Failed!
Do you want to reboot device?
Any idea's or suggestions?

Need to provide more information
1) Post the methods you have tried
2) The steps at which it fail

Are you sure your not putting the device in Disk Drive mode? You need to leave it in charge only when using simple root. Oh ya and a LOT more info would help.

Sorry I edited the first post to show this information as well.
Everything seems to be around the PC36IMG.zip both Toast, Simple Root, and unrevoked get to the same point and get this message.
Main Version is older!
Update Failed!
Do you want to reboot device?

blkout01 said:
I had my phone exchanged at the Sprint store yesterday (7/29/30) and have tried every method on the forums with no success. I'm at a lose for what to do. I'd rather not do the official update but if I can't get root I might as well.
HBoot - 0.79.0000
Radio - 2.05.00.06.10
Firmware version - 2.1 update1
Build - 1.47.651.1 CL195459 release-keys
PRI - 1.40_003
Everything seems to be around the PC36IMG.zip both Toast, Simple Root, and unrevoked get to the same point and get this message.
Main Version is older!
Update Failed!
Do you want to reboot device?
Any idea's or suggestions?
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My friend got his new Evo with 1.47.651.1 already installed. I used the instructions "ROOTING AFTER OTA 1.47.651.1 (Full Root)" in the first post of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=721055
There might be easier ways to do it, but this worked for me. The biggest problem I had was getting downloads to complete of the files I needed, without being corrupted.

My new EVO came with 1.47 and I just used the SimpleRoot OTA Edition. Other than a few user errors it worked perfect.

Thanks, I tried that method in another post I saw but I'll try downloading these files. Going to be a while since I'm at the DMV and they are on number 21....I'm number 61. FAIL
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

I can walk you thru it if you have a fw minutes online. hit me up on pm or a chat gmail

I got a replacement EVO runnig 2.1-update1...I can't Root!!!

Firmware Version: 2.1-update1
Baseband Version: 2.05.00.06.10
Build Number: 1.47.651.1
PRI Version: 1:40_003
PRL Version: 60667
Issue:
I've followed Toastcfh's instructions to root in the past, and when I copy PC36IMG to the sdcard and go into recovery I get: Main main version is older.
I did some searching and saw most of the people that were getting that were on 2.2, but not me, I'm still on 2.1
I then saw a post to try unrevoked3 for the 'step one' part. When I tried to begin toastcfh's step 2 after unrevoked3 said 'done' the adb shell cat commands said 'cannot create /data/flash_image: permission denied'
I tried to reboot and run PC36IMG again, and got the same 'main version is older' error.
I don't know a whole lot about the technical programming side, but I have searched and can't find a resolution.
Please...help!

Uhm, all I could think of to do is use unrEVOked Forever, if you've done unrEVOked 3 that is.

no there is a root method for 1.47...give me a few

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411&highlight=1.47.651.1
I tried the one above and it worked out for me.
here is another one just in case
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701004&highlight=1.47.651.1

munsterrr said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411&highlight=1.47.651.1
I tried the one above and it worked out for me.
here is another one just in case
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701004&highlight=1.47.651.1
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After I got stuck the first time, I tried that second link...thats where the unrevoked3 came in.
I'll try out the first method link in a couple days. I've got a couple busy days ahead of me. I'll just have to keep hitting no/cancel to all the 2.2 ota updates popping up on my phone...

dreamliner330 said:
After I got stuck the first time, I tried that second link...thats where the unrevoked3 came in.
I'll try out the first method link in a couple days. I've got a couple busy days ahead of me. I'll just have to keep hitting no/cancel to all the 2.2 ota updates popping up on my phone...
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Or you could turn off the automatic update check. Also, there are plenty of threads talking about how to get past the Main Version error.

The main version older problem resides in eng-PC36IMG.ZIP from my experience. Try whitslacks "How to Start Over" method or SteelH's Root Guide. Once you get a good eng-PC36IMG.ZIP, you're home free.
I don't know personally, but I have read that the Unrevoked3 + Unrevoked Forever works fine.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

dreamliner330 said:
Firmware Version: 2.1-update1
Baseband Version: 2.05.00.06.10
Build Number: 1.47.651.1
PRI Version: 1:40_003
PRL Version:
Maybe he can't update because he has the newer PRI and PRL versions???
Sent from my Evo DC 3.5 using XDA App
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jorgetorres574 said:
dreamliner330 said:
Firmware Version: 2.1-update1
Baseband Version: 2.05.00.06.10
Build Number: 1.47.651.1
PRI Version: 1:40_003
PRL Version:
Maybe he can't update because he has the newer PRI and PRL versions???
Sent from my Evo DC 3.5 using XDA App
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PRL woudn't do anything. The PRI is the same that all phones ship with. The only reason you would have anything older is if you flashed the eng build. There hasn't been a PRI update ever. So that's not the issue. I think he was trying to use an older root method, but for 1.47 you have to use the flash exploit or unrevoked, then use Forever or Toast's method.
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Search for ' epic easy root' for a thread by SteelH. That's what I used
Amazingly easy.

did u ever get ur evo rooted cause im running into the same problem

munsterrr said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411&highlight=1.47.651.1
I tried the one above and it worked out for me.
here is another one just in case
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701004&highlight=1.47.651.1
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simple root is what i used for the .47 version. or you could take the ota and do the 2,2 root instructions

nicholaaaas said:
simple root is what i used for the .47 version. or you could take the ota and do the 2,2 root instructions
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ditto, simple root is the most effective/easiest way for 1.47.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411&highlight=simpleroot

yeah i did that one and it just tells me that older version stuff

[Q] Please have mercy on a noob trying to root an EVO

I want to root my EVO so I don't have to pay $30 for WiFi... this is what I get when I try to load PC36IMG.zip:
Main version is older. Update Fail
screenshot here: img16.imageshack.us/f/imag0511.jpg
Yes I already updated to 2.2 does this mean I can't root now?
Extremely confused at this point...please help. Thank you.

Here ya go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=776477
One click root for evo

1. This should be in q&a
2. Welcome
3. Just use unrevoked its a program on ur computer that does it all for you.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

That's not true right now actually. Some of the Evo's that have been sold lately have a new H-BOOT image that hasn't been cracked yet. They are working on it though.

I'm guessing I'm one of those users with the new H-Boot image......
... since I followed the step by step method, and it doesn't seem to work. Considering I just got this phone today, I'm guessing I have the newer HBoot image on it. As for what happens, when I'm running the Unrevoked3 software, it gets through the recovery screen where you scroll down to HBoot USB then reboots back up the phone instead of writing the custom recovery.
Just in case this might help, my phone has the following software version:
Android Version 2.2
Baseband Version:
2.15.00.09.01
Kernel Version:
2.6.32.15-g0673ed
[email protected] #10
Build number:
3.30.651.2 CL271968 release-keys
Software number:
3.30.651.2
Browser:
WebKit 3.1
PRI Version:
1.77_003
PRL Version:
60671
Any help you guys can provide would be much appreciated.

I found the HBOOT version when I pulled the battery, then pressed the power button and Down volume key at the same time to bring up the bootloader. It's at the top of the white screen.
Here is the link to thread where a couple devs are working on this and trying to get it into Unrevoked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827266

[Q] OTA system upgrade 1.32.651.6

Long first post:
I take over an EVO phone from my brother, which was rooted by his co-worker. He told me it was rooted, and flashed with a stock Sprint ROM (the phone still has all of the Sprint apps installed, and the interface looks exactly as the phone they display at Sprint stores). The phone has Android 2.1 (I assumed), and I have a popup stating that there is a System upgrade 1.32.651.6 (13.14 MB) FOTA.
My phone info:
Hardware version 0003
Firmware version 2.1-update1
Baseband version 1.39.00.05.31
Kernel version 2.6.29-a2443432
[email protected] #1
Build number 1.32.651.1 CL171253 release-keys
Software number 1.32.651.1
Browser version WebKit 3.1
PRI version 1.34_003
PRL version 60672
When I Hboot the phone (Power + Volumn down keys), I got:
Supersonic EVT-3 ENG S-OFF
HBOOT - 0.76.2000 (PC 3610000)
MICROP - 041f
Radio 1.39.00.05.31
Mar 30 2010
My question?
1. What do I need to do to upgrade my OS to Android 2.2?
2. What do I need to do, after upgrading the OS, to upgrade my Radio?
Please don't get me wrong. I read many posts in this forum. It seems like instructions for 2.1 were outdated, and I am not sure I should use newer instruction (intended for 2.2) on my phone. I don't really know which keywords to use to search for my case, hence this new thread is created.
I read this from the sticky thread, but when I read more on the link, ppl says "ROMs posted here update anything besides the OS itself. No radio/PRI/WiMAX updates at all." How do I upgrade my phone's OS?
I am getting an Over the Air (OTA) update from Sprint. Should I accept it if I am rooted?
No. Do not accept any Sprint OTA updates. If you are not using the latest update, check in the Android Development section. You must update to the latest ROOTED update by flashing it.
3.70.651.1 + Radios
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251 NEWEST ROOTED OTA. Use the First link for the Radios.
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Thanks all in advance.
Xitrum

Your phone is rooted with the same "grandfather" method I rooted mine, except no has bothered to update it as new OTA's have come out. You already have root and the engineering SPL on your phone. All you need to do is download the 2.2 based rom of your choice, drop it in the root of your SD card, boot into recovery, wipe everything and flash it.
Do not accept any OTA's that your phone is prompting you do to, or you can break the root and make things more complicated.
Edit: The link below has all the latest radio, PRI, NV and Wimax software. You can flash these now, but note that there will be more added to this list as some or all of these are changing with the latest OTA update that is being pushed out by Sprint right now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485

step 1: download a deoxdexed version in this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
step 2: flash that file to your phone by using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831559
and then you are done
if you are rooted, NEVER accept OTA updates from sprint.

Thank you rugedraw for your help.
From your link, I did not see the OP stated anything about ROMs, kernels,... Can I assume that Radio, WiMAX, PRI & NV updates work for any versions of ROMs, kernels?

Thank you weaselp1. I bookmarked the links you posted.