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What I'm curious to know is, has anyone found a good 10" tablet that has ask the features of the Dinc minus the phone?
Google pulls up a bunch and people leave reviews but none of those I'd trust as much as I would as much as I'd trust from xda testers. Need for work cause the web app is a pain on this small screen as the keyboard takes up most of the screen. cheap would be nice but understand good cost more. Also need all sensors with camera as I also use dishpointer pro almost daily.
Yep, large Dinc without phone... Recommend something to the confused...
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Just wait, better tables are coming within the next 2 months (Moto Xoom, LG G-Slate, Samaung Tab 2 possibly). They will all have upgraded processors, some have 3D cameras, higher resolution, and best of all, Honeycomb (Android 3.0)
Kewl, will hold off a bit.
Thanks.
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BenHolliday said:
What I'm curious to know is, has anyone found a good 10" tablet that has ask the features of the Dinc minus the phone?
Google pulls up a bunch and people leave reviews but none of those I'd trust as much as I would as much as I'd trust from xda testers. Need for work cause the web app is a pain on this small screen as the keyboard takes up most of the screen. cheap would be nice but understand good cost more. Also need all sensors with camera as I also use dishpointer pro almost daily.
Yep, large Dinc without phone... Recommend something to the confused...
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Yeah i'm holding of on this too, there are so many tablets that are coming out soon (soon as in until summer) so it will worth the wait. Not to mention that prices will also go down, paying $600-700 for a tablet right now is not really a good value to me at least.
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Yeah i'm holding of on this too, there are so many tablets that are coming out soon (soon as in until summer) so it will worth the wait. Not to mention that prices will also go down, paying $600-700 for a tablet right now is not really a good value to me at least.
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Shoot, seeing some for under 200 on net now.
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Shoot, seeing some for under 200 on net now.
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Bear in mind "you get what you pay for." Remember that our phones cost like $600 without a contract; the tablets that will be worth the money are going to be upwards of $500. The Galaxy Tab is $500 right now subsidized by Verizon.
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Bear in mind "you get what you pay for." Remember that our phones cost like $600 without a contract; the tablets that will be worth the money are going to be upwards of $500. The Galaxy Tab is $500 right now subsidized by Verizon.
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Yeah, seeing that the tablets with wireless 3g are up there in price. Wanting one without the 3g so that I don't have to extend or pay an additional fee to add it to our cell plan. Using Wireless Tether would be just fine...
If this was a 10" I'd love to have it:
http://www.amazon.com/Archos-500-In...OC/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1296695107&sr=8-15
Would be awesome... Really camera would be optional as I can use phone for Dishpointer Pro..
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Yeah, seeing that the tablets with wireless 3g are up there in price. Wanting one without the 3g so that I don't have to extend or pay an additional fee to add it to our cell plan. Using Wireless Tether would be just fine...
If this was a 10" I'd love to have it:
http://www.amazon.com/Archos-500-In...OC/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1296695107&sr=8-15
Would be awesome... Really camera would be optional as I can use phone for Dishpointer Pro..
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To be honest those Archos tablets aren't that bad at all. Quite good for what you pay for them. A guy I worked with a couple years back had one, really nice.
Dude, like you I have been waiting for an amazing tablet to along with my Incredible. I was totally sold on the XOOM (and still am) but $699 is too steep for me. I know that people will be saying that it is better than the $499 iPad because of more features and whatnot, but if Moto wants to make a name for itself in the tablet world and take the crown from Apple, it should release it for $499-$599 with the features it has. That way it will sell like hotcakes!
Anyway, since the XOOM is too expensive, I just learned about the Viewsonic gTablet last week and have fallen in love with it! 10.1" screen, Tegra 2, 512MB ram, 16GB internal memory, microSD, WiFi N, 1.3MP front camera and USB 2.0 for input!!! the price for this baby is only $379. I have been spending hours reading all the threads in the forums and people LOVE it. The actual software it comes with sucks, but there are very good stable roms out there for it, even a stock android 2.2 The hardware on the tablet are amazing! The devs on here are amazing and I am sure someone will be able to get a fully functional Gingerbread rom on that in due time.
If price for the XOOM is an issue then go for the gTablet. Very similar specs with the exception of 3G/4G data radio. Which most people do not want, including me.
History: I had an Evo then few months ago got the Evo3D.
I had been waiting for this phone since it was announced around Feb 2011. Now I've had it for almost 2 weeks and with the 15 day return policy I have 2 more days to keep it return. I still have my E3D and I paid $499 for this phone.
Decision Time:
Pro's:
Screen resolution, smooth scrolling, cool camera 8/10, 16GB internal plus SD, slim and light
Con's:
No NFC, touch screen not as responsive, screen size requires mostly both hands to navigate, USB pluged on computer doesn't show up (only way I found to access my GB is wifi kies), keyboard lag as I'm typing right now. I'm sure an update will fix most of the problems.
Now, Im big on tech yet I feel this phone or another phone should feed my tech thirst for atleast 6months, with no nfc I feel like I paid $499 for sexiness and looks. Had this phone NFC no doubt I wouldn't consider returning this hotness. I read ATT and Tmobile version will have nfc kinda bummer.
I'm really looking forward to using google wallet, bust out my phone type my pin and transaction paid, no CC... My delema is IF I return this, is there any other sexy phones coming to sprint equiped with NFC (nexus prime). I dont mind holding back until November bur doesnt look like anything is popping.
Totally confused, any opinions suggestions?
I don't have this phone, but looking at your cons, I would return it.
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History: I had an Evo then few months ago got the Evo3D.
I had been waiting for this phone since it was announced around Feb 2011. Now I've had it for almost 2 weeks and with the 15 day return policy I have 2 more days to keep it return. I still have my E3D and I paid $499 for this phone.
Decision Time:
Pro's:
Screen resolution, smooth scrolling, cool camera 8/10, 16GB internal plus SD, slim and light
Con's:
No NFC, touch screen not as responsive, screen size requires mostly both hands to navigate, USB pluged on computer doesn't show up (only way I found to access my GB is wifi kies), keyboard lag as I'm typing right now. I'm sure an update will fix most of the problems.
Now, Im big on tech yet I feel this phone or another phone should feed my tech thirst for atleast 6months, with no nfc I feel like I paid $499 for sexiness and looks. Had this phone NFC no doubt I wouldn't consider returning this hotness. I read ATT and Tmobile version will have nfc kinda bummer.
I'm really looking forward to using google wallet, bust out my phone type my pin and transaction paid, no CC... My delema is IF I return this, is there any other sexy phones coming to sprint equiped with NFC (nexus prime). I dont mind holding back until November bur doesnt look like anything is popping.
Totally confused, any opinions suggestions?
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Evo3D doesn't have NFC either. I personally don't see any of the problems you're suffering from. My computer recognizes my phone fine, and I can transfer files to and from it, or it's SD card without using Kies. I have yet to experience keyboard lag (though I switched the keyboard because I hate swype). I also don't have a problem navigating it with one had, but that's definitely based on your hands and preference. I've also never had my touch screen not be responsive.
I had the 3D before the Epic Touch and I'm still somewhat on the fence about trading it back out for an Evo3D again. I love this phone, but I loved other things about the 3D (including the HUGE dev following it has). I'll likely end up keeping the Epic though, because I do feel it's substantially faster, and I like the bigger screen.
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I don't have this phone, but looking at your cons, I would return it.
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I want to get a new phone, if I return this and willing to wait until this holiday season, what should I get or hold out on? Dont get me wrong this phone is nice. BIG plus for 16GB internal memory and Im sure most cons will be fixed with an update (too much buzz and drama for sprint and samsung to ignore).
Again if you had the choice to get this or Anything else coming out this holiday season... ????
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I want to get a new phone, if I return this and willing to wait until this holiday season, what should I get or hold out on? Dont get me wrong this phone is nice. BIG plus for 16GB internal memory and Im sure most cons will be fixed with an update (too much buzz and drama for sprint and samsung to ignore).
Again if you had the choice to get this or Anything else coming out this holiday season... ????
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I'd look to the Nexus Prime, but I'm not sure on the release date yet.
I cant make up my mind. I guess I want to see what majority of members say and Ill go on that.
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I'd look to the Nexus Prime, but I'm not sure on the release date yet.
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Not sure on a release date and I would also bet money that Verizon will probably get it first since don't have the gsII
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Not sure on a release date and I would also bet money that Verizon will probably get it first since don't have the gsII
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Agreed. So... To keep or not to keep?
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Agreed. So... To keep or not to keep?
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I'd keep it. Worse case you can sell it on eBay or Craigslist and pick up the prime when it comes out.
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But I would go and exchange yours because the screen shouldn't be giving you touch response issues.
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Nobody knows if the Nexus Prime will even come to Sprint. This phone is king right now so I don't know what your problem is. Splitting hairs a little too much maybe? Nothig will ever be perfect for some people. No offense. 3 months after the Prime comes out something else will be better then people will complain about that.
But if you're that unhappy stick to your E3D and return this one.
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Nobody knows if the Nexus Prime will even come to Sprint. This phone is king right now so I don't know what your problem is. Splitting hairs a little too much maybe? Nothig will ever be perfect for some people. No offense. 3 months after the Prime comes out something else will be better then people will complain about that.
But if you're that unhappy stick to your E3D and return this one.
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Sprint No NFC
ATT & Tmobile Yes NFC
Verizon nexus prime Yes NFC
NFC will rule by end of the year
NFC really? Not that big a deal right now very and I mean very few places even use it yet. Future proof sure but for the next year you'd be fine NFC lol. It will be great when it gets more mainstream. As for screen I haven't seen any screen lag either. Keyboard try another keyboard. USB plug works on PC and MAC just fine, got drivers?
pretty sure the prime isn't going to have the Exynos processor. I think the prime is going to basically be the samsung hercules for sprint with the 1.5 ghz qualcomm processor. An inferior processor. I'll see you when I'm running kernels and roms months from now trying to break the 5500 mark barrier and beyond on quadrant overclocked. This thing is raw power in the nicest package you can get it in. U want NFC go at&t and lose the screen. Sounds like you don't like the extra real estate anyways. The prime is gonna be the same screen.
Rumors say 1.5 ghz ti omap 4460.. So we don't know how good the processor will be.. And from what I read that processor was delayed until early 2012 so wit the tell knows what the prime will have now
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There are only 150,000 locations across the entire continental United States that currently accept NFC. You do know that we don't even have the resources to install the NFC receivers even if there was demand within years yet alone a year right? NFC if it became very popular and essential for business's due to demands would take years to become widespread. At least 3 years at the very earliest. Well outside of everyone's plan agreements. I even expect a very slow start due to peoples comfort with credit card transactions and initial worry about possible security liabilities amongst the general public.
You need to enable USB Debugging if you want to be able to view the phone to show up as a USB Drive. I'm not sure about the keyboard lag and the screen has been plenty responsive for me though it's not the most responsive screen ever which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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Rumors say 1.5 ghz ti omap 4460.. So we don't know how good the processor will be
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From what I gather the Exynos set up with it's GPU won't be matched by the 4460. The Exynos will out process the 4460 across the board. Also I read that samsung is forced to use the 4460 because it supports 42 + HSPA for t-mobile and the like. It's a weaker processor set up that supports a special kind of wireless connectivity is why samsung is forced to use it. If I'm not mistaken it will be in the t-mobile variant of the GS II so we'll have benchmarks within a matter of weeks. Now mind you, t-mobile was the only carrier not to allow access to their phone at the samsung press event. I would gather it's because their phone benchmarks lower than the sprint and att versions.
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I want NFC myself, but you're kidding youself if you think NFC will become even popular within the next 2-3 years. I give it 5 years before it becomes kind of mainstream. Even paypass isn't full deployed yet and it has been around for more than 10 years.
The list of things this device doesnt have keeps getting longer. I could deal with the old tech resolution, no NFC... Yeah that sucks, but whatever. It's still pretty early in that game anyhow. But the thing that bugs me most is that it's looking more and more like no Rev B when Sprint upgrades its 3G network. Would have at least let the wife keep mine, but not now. Sending it back. If it turns out later the device supports Rev B and the Prime doesnt come or isn't what it's hyped up to be, I might consider picking up another GSII.
Oh hello. I'm absolutely new to the forums because I decided to register so I can ask some questions about the Iconia A100 because I need them answered because I want to get the tablet soon.
Soo, here we go. About the screen size and resolution; I never had any Android device so it might sound stupid but... if you try to run an application or a game or whatever that's been made for lower resolution than the tablet's, will it run in a smaller "window" or something, or just won't run at all? The same goes with applications made for 1.x or 2.x version of Android - will they launch on A100's Honeycomb?
I also worry about the battery a bit - not about the battery's life because that seems just fine for me, but what happens if the battery breaks? You can't really replace it at home without breaking the warranty (I suppose you cannot open it) so will they replace it at some authorized-service-or-something? Or do you need to get the whole tablet replaced? I'm probably over-worrying this a bit because none of my phone batteries ever broke but still... Hehe.
Oh and I also wanted to ask about Gorilla Glass... Is it featured on the A100? On their website it says it is, I just want to get it verified by someone who owns it.
That's probably all for now, thanks very much for any replies.
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Oh hello. I'm absolutely new to the forums because I decided to register so I can ask some questions about the Iconia A100 because I need them answered because I want to get the tablet soon.
Soo, here we go. About the screen size and resolution; I never had any Android device so it might sound stupid but... if you try to run an application or a game or whatever that's been made for lower resolution than the tablet's, will it run in a smaller "window" or something, or just won't run at all? The same goes with applications made for 1.x or 2.x version of Android - will they launch on A100's Honeycomb?
I also worry about the battery a bit - not about the battery's life because that seems just fine for me, but what happens if the battery breaks? You can't really replace it at home without breaking the warranty (I suppose you cannot open it) so will they replace it at some authorized-service-or-something? Or do you need to get the whole tablet replaced? I'm probably over-worrying this a bit because none of my phone batteries ever broke but still... Hehe.
Oh and I also wanted to ask about Gorilla Glass... Is it featured on the A100? On their website it says it is, I just want to get it verified by someone who owns it.
That's probably all for now, thanks very much for any replies.
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I kept the A100 for a while before returning it but I'll share what I know about what you ask.
I'm not a gamer per se. Angry Birds is about all I've found interest for. But if an app is designed for lower resolutions often you will see FCs or other odd behaviour. Try to select compatible games for HC 3.2 and you should be fine. If a favorite game is FC'ing on you...drop a note to the developer. Oftentimes you can get great insights that way.
The battery is non-replaceable meaning if it ever pooped out on you, your only recourse would be RMA.
Yes, Gorilla Glass is a feature. But, know this. Gorilla Glass is "scratch-resistant" and not "scratch-proof". Huge difference. If you keep it, cover it would be my suggestion.
The A00 is a nice little tab. Well built but not real flexible. If you can swing a bit more $$ there are much better options out there.
HTH
Thank you skeeterpro. I've a few more questions though - what exactly is "FC"? I'd say it's Friend Code, but that doesn't really fit well...
I also want to ask what better options would you recommend, and why exactly did you return the tablet? I'm sorry for lots of stupid questions, but the tablet seems just fine to me and I don't wanna pay ~200$ more for a 10" Samsung tablet.
FC is short for Force Close. If an app quits responding, it is Android's way of killing it. Most times it will give you the option to Force Close an unresponsive app or wait for it to respond. Other times, it just closes it on its own.
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Paturata said:
Thank you skeeterpro. I've a few more questions though - what exactly is "FC"? I'd say it's Friend Code, but that doesn't really fit well...
I also want to ask what better options would you recommend, and why exactly did you return the tablet? I'm sorry for lots of stupid questions, but the tablet seems just fine to me and I don't wanna pay ~200$ more for a 10" Samsung tablet.
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No problem! Ask away. Two things. Questions are what this forum is for and two, we were ALL new at one time!
FC - Force Close. Android-speak for crashed! (Yours seems more positive though!)
Be happy to share what I think on recommendations but the bottom line is what YOU like and does what YOU want and, last but not least, what YOU can afford. If a tablet you have seems fine to you...keep it. Everyone has different needs/wants and therefore goals. List your priorities in a tab then jump on it.
My opinions on available 7" tabs I've tried:
A100: nice overall tablet. Good build just "feels" good in hand. Slippery back though. Screen viewing angles are really not good (looking at screen from the sides). Straight on the screen is acceptable. Battery life is weak. Depending on use it's highly doubtful one would get a full day on a single charge. Not many accessories available. There are rumors Acer may be getting out of making tablets. Not good as support would wither out. And that would mean no OS upgrades. Small dev support. (Not many on Xda own the darned thing). Buying something that is EOL (End Of Life) can be good but seldom is. There is the ability to root the A100 but no verifiable Recovery yet. And rooting voids one's warranty so a fail-safe Recovery is VITAL. The measly 8GB internal storage is mitigated by the uSD (micro SD) availability.
Amazon Kindle: Not a real tablet computer really. An e-reader that runs android which is fine but not really the same "animal" as a full on android tablet. Same with Nook Tablet. Nice units for reading/movies though. But locked into Amazon/Barnes and Noble content.
Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus: best 7" tablet available today bar none. Downsides are price. It's spend-y at $399 but you get what you pay for. Accessories are few but in the pipeline I am told. Best/fastest processor on the 7" tab out there. Screen isn't IPS but viewing angles and much better than the A100. Charger port can covert to a USB host. Both root and recovery are available but recovery is still being tested AFAIK.
Samsung has a 8.9 screen tab out if the 10.1" screen is too large for you. It has some drawbacks and the biggest IMHO is no uSD. There is a 7.7" tab from Samsung coming that is said to be freakin' amazing but no word on when or if it will be released in the US.
*whew* Hope the about helps at all.
Raise your hand if you have questions? lol
Thanks very much for both replies!
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There are rumors Acer may be getting out of making tablets. Not good as support would wither out. And that would mean no OS upgrades. Small dev support. (Not many on Xda own the darned thing).
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That would be bad. However, I read there will be ICS update for the A100 in 2012 so I don't know.
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Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus: best 7" tablet available today bar none. Downsides are price. It's spend-y at $399 but you get what you pay for.
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$399? It's impossible to buy it here (Czech republic) for that price. Even A100 costs $340 here, Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus wasn't even released here yet and it will cost $700 at launch. Yes, 700 bucks.
You kinda scared me with the Acer-will-stop-producing-tablets thing (I know it's a rumour, but I'm paranoid as hell ). I'd love to invest into a Samsung tablet and be sure there will be lots of official support for it, but it's way too over-priced here (and that goes with everything in Europe).
Acer is not getting out of the tablet game. They have already announced the A200. The A100 and A500 will get Android 4.0 the latest version of Android in Janurary.
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Acer is not getting out of the tablet game. They have already announced the A200. The A100 and A500 will get Android 4.0 the latest version of Android in Janurary.
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Good to know! Of course, articles posted by the various websites should always be read with a grain of salt!
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Paturata said:
Thanks very much for both replies!
That would be bad. However, I read there will be ICS update for the A100 in 2012 so I don't know.
$399? It's impossible to buy it here (Czech republic) for that price. Even A100 costs $340 here, Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus wasn't even released here yet and it will cost $700 at launch. Yes, 700 bucks.
You kinda scared me with the Acer-will-stop-producing-tablets thing (I know it's a rumour, but I'm paranoid as hell ). I'd love to invest into a Samsung tablet and be sure there will be lots of official support for it, but it's way too over-priced here (and that goes with everything in Europe).
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$700? Jeez. Actually the $340 for the A100 is about what I paid here when I first got it to try out. That sort of pricing seems to explain why so many from Europe purchase devices when on holiday here to take back.
Glad ihavecrayons found the source on Acer. I'm sure some manufacturers will stop producing tabs as the market floods with devices. The A100 (barring the irritants to some people) is a fine little tab really. Once a verifiable/reproducible Recovery is developed it will lend itself to serious modding! Now hopefully there will be increasing love for the device on Xda.
Thanks again.
If you don't mind one (probably last) question... What is this "recovery thing" that everyone's talking about? Resetting the device to its factory state including the default ROM for warranty purposes?
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I have decided that I can not deal with the locked bootloader on this tablet and have chosen to sell it (got more then I paid). The A100 is a wonderful tablet and has great potential but the lack of developers and dead end bootloader is a showstopper.
I am waiting for another brand 7 inch tablet to arrive by Fedex later this week. It has the same basic specs as the a100. CWM is already available and there is a small amount development going on. But it is new on the market. No ICS yet. There is some talk in getting CM9 on it.
It is really disappointing that the 10 inch tabs are getting all of the glory, I really think the 7 inch is the best size for carrying with you.
see yah!
The locked bootloader isn't a big deal for me because the tab already does everything I want it to do. The only thing that could make this tab already better than what it is would be the unlocked bootloader that way we could look at different rom options (but to be honest the rom that's currently there isn't that bad at all). Granted it would be nice to overclock, but its already pretty fast and I haven't really had any hiccups while using it since I released the custom build.prop (except for using hdmi which I'm working on).
I think eventually we'll get some sort of work around for the bootloader working, its just a matter of time. I'm definitely not going to drop this tab though just because we don't have it figured out yet.
I do wish there was someone other than myself that's taken an interest in this tab that knows their way around custom recoverys and bootloaders since that's not one of my strong points but at least I'm trying to help.
I wont call you a sell out, but I will wish you good luck with your new device and happy modding!
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Which tablet did you get? I'm starting to look into getting a new one and giving this one to my wife.
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Never really understood why people have to announce that they're dumping their device and leaving the forum. Has anyone ever seen a community beg a person PLEASE keep their tablet/phone/etc and stay?
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Never really understood why people have to announce that they're dumping their device and leaving the forum. Has anyone ever seen a community beg a person PLEASE keep their tablet/phone/etc and stay?
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I agree, but everyone is entitled to thier opinion. I personally don't care how bad you thought it sucked and what you're replacing it with. If you don't have anything useful to contribute don't bother posting. For me these "goodbye" types of posts fall into that catagory.
That's just my own opinion though.
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Never really understood why people have to announce that they're dumping their device and leaving the forum. Has anyone ever seen a community beg a person PLEASE keep their tablet/phone/etc and stay?
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I actually like my A100 and plan to hold on to it for a while.
Is that okay with everyone?
(Of course if someone wanted to pay me enough for it so I could buy the next, better thing....)
to OP good luck with your future endeavors as I am sure you will have new things you will complain about your new device seeing how you would post something like this.
And crossix thank you for all your hard work. I really wish I knew more than I could to help you and others out but I try to put in where I can. We need more devs like you around here.
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Never really understood why people have to announce that they're dumping their device and leaving the forum. Has anyone ever seen a community beg a person PLEASE keep their tablet/phone/etc and stay?
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I think its a simple way of letting their frustrations go. I was just doing some research on this tab as I'd like to have a nice little 7 inch carry along but not so sure about it with the locked b/l and bad viewing angles.
Is the screen as bad as it looks in videos? From what I've seen and read this thing runs very smooth and lagfree, am I right about that?
Thanks for any info.
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I think its a simple way of letting their frustrations go. I was just doing some research on this tab as I'd like to have a nice little 7 inch carry along but not so sure about it with the locked b/l and bad viewing angles.
Is the screen as bad as it looks in videos? From what I've seen and read this thing runs very smooth and lagfree, am I right about that?
Thanks for any info.
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Theres really only 1 bad angle which is about 120 degrees towards the bottom. It gets darker. So jus flip it 180 in landscape and youre good. Left, right and top angle are great IMO. As far as speed. Here's one I posted....you be the judge....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-99O4-gmQ6E&list=UUHqepxR6_suYYKySqKxymDg&index=3&feature=plcp
The only lag I've ever experienced was when I was on the early 3.2 builds. After upgrading to the latest 3.2.1and running the custom build.prop, the only bit of lag I've seen is playing 720p video in flash and 720p software mode video on hdmi out. But my atrix had the same issue, so I think its just a limitation of stock tegra2. I resovled it on my atrix by overclocking, so if we ever find a method of running a custom kernel I think it'll be resolved.
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I have never experienced any lag whatsoever in the a100. also, i have heard so much about the viewing angles, and as aznmode said, there is only one slightly off angle and there is no reason whatsoever to have to be looking in that angle unless you just choose to do so. I have several tabs and i use the acer more than the others combined because it does everything that is needed and it is very easy to carry around. Also I have hear reviewers complain about the battery, however i can useit on and off all day long without charging and also it charges twice as fast as most. i wouldn't hesitate to purchase this tab again, i would just love to see some more development. The rom itself is very fast and extremely stable, the only real complaint that i have about the tab is that i would like to see usb host mode working. i also wanted to say thanks to crossix and all of the other devs that have put alot of work into it so far!
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After upgrading to the latest 3.2.1and running the custom build.prop, the only bit of lag I've seen is playing 720p video in flash and 720p software mode video on hdmi out.
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What this custom build.prop is effecting on? Better performances? better battery life?
i'm on 2007.04 Gen1...
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What this custom build.prop is effecting on? Better performances? better battery life?
i'm on 2007.04 Gen1...
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All of the above, you can check it out over in the dev section
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All of the above, you can check it out over in the dev section
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Thanx...i've installed...
Now i just need to find mode to free memory for -finally, now it is checked like an a500, compatible device- install the TinTinHD app i bought few weeks ago: it need 1.5 gb of data
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Thanx...i've installed...
Now i just need to find mode to free memory for -finally, now it is checked like an a500, compatible device- install the TinTinHD app i bought few weeks ago: it need 1.5 gb of data
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If you have a big microsd card, you could swap it with the internal memory (I really need to add direct links to these things to my signature..).
Just out of curiosity has anyone contracted koush to see if he can unlock the bootloader. On his website he says that he just needs the tablet for about a week. I know that you guys have been working on it and have made some bits of progress, but maybe a new set of eyes might be helpful. I do support for two as we got the kids some for Christmas but I need to leave them stock so they can't get into and erase stuff they need for them to run.
Don't want to step on anyone's toes or if this has already been attempted just disregard.
Thanks to the developers for their work.
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see yah!
The locked bootloader isn't a big deal for me because the tab already does everything I want it to do. The only thing that could make this tab already better than what it is would be the unlocked bootloader that way we could look at different rom options (but to be honest the rom that's currently there isn't that bad at all). Granted it would be nice to overclock, but its already pretty fast and I haven't really had any hiccups while using it since I released the custom build.prop (except for using hdmi which I'm working on).
I think eventually we'll get some sort of work around for the bootloader working, its just a matter of time. I'm definitely not going to drop this tab though just because we don't have it figured out yet.
I do wish there was someone other than myself that's taken an interest in this tab that knows their way around custom recoverys and bootloaders since that's not one of my strong points but at least I'm trying to help.
I wont call you a sell out, but I will wish you good luck with your new device and happy modding!
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I started this thread when I was really pissed off at the A100. Between my touch screen failing and the many hours spent to get a working tun.ko on it. Due to the encrypted kernel I could not even load a kernel module.
To explain I need tun.ko and advanced routing so I can connect to a Cisco VPN for work. While waiting for my tab to be returned from service went to Best Buy and picked up the Samsung Galaxy tab plus, installed VPNC and it worked with no problem.
The A100 is a really nice device and for 90% of people it is perfect. I actually preferred the styling compared to the Samsung slab, but VPN is the reason I wanted a tab in the first place.
I wish you all good luck with cracking the bootloader.
I plan on keeping my a100 at least until I can afford a tegra 3 tab.
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I started this thread when I was really pissed off at the A100. Between my touch screen failing and the many hours spent to get a working tun.ko on it. Due to the encrypted kernel I could not even load a kernel module.
To explain I need tun.ko and advanced routing so I can connect to a Cisco VPN for work. While waiting for my tab to be returned from service went to Best Buy and picked up the Samsung Galaxy tab plus, installed VPNC and it worked with no problem.
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I use remote desktop with a virtual pc setup to connect up to my works Cisco VPN and it works really well, especially when I have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected up to the tab (I also use this same setup with my atrix), it works great!
I also use this same setup for one of my clients Nortel Networks VPN which doesn't work at all on android nativity. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with the a100 but for the price its hard to find fault with it.
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I use remote desktop with a virtual pc setup to connect up to my works Cisco VPN and it works really well, especially when I have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected up to the tab (I also use this same setup with my atrix), it works great!
I also use this same setup for one of my clients Nortel Networks VPN which doesn't work at all on android nativity. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with the a100 but for the price its hard to find fault with it.
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Agreed the price is right.
The virtual PC solution is not an option since I not only need it for RDP and VNC but also to sync my contacts, email and calendar. I was connecting to my home VPN and then jumping through to work but I need my contacts and email in somewhat a real time solution.
Morotola Milestone 2... I'm looking to buy Samsung Captative Glide i927, the sub forum is a lot more active and there are plenty of diferent roms to choose from.
Is it a worthy upgrade from a MM2?
Thank you.
Depending on your radio requirements, you should consider the Relay 4G. Its only downside over the Glide is its 4G isn't compatible with AT&T (but it's fully quad-band EDGE/UMTS), and the community just took off like a rocket this month.
I'll ride my Glide until it can't run the newest Android comfortably anymore, but if I was buying now, without a doubt in my mind, I'd get an unlocked Relay.
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Depending on your radio requirements, you should consider the Relay 4G. Its only downside over the Glide is its 4G isn't compatible with AT&T (but it's fully quad-band EDGE/UMTS), and the community just took off like a rocket this month.
I'll ride my Glide until it can't run the newest Android comfortably anymore, but if I was buying now, without a doubt in my mind, I'd get an unlocked Relay.
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I'm from Argentina, I will look up what bands the carrier use here. Thank you, Relay 4G seems a strong candidate in my book, too bad I can't get it here via normal means, that is something I have to deal with down here, the choices are really non existant, that is why I'm also looking for someone or some business to get me one from USA.
Can I ask you some questions about your Glide? Because this one I can get it in Argentina, for about 450-475 USD, brand new in box, unlocked.
Edit1: the Relay 4G is a beast of a phone (dualcorewise), but dang it! the OLED is a pentile matrix
Still my account is not activated, I have to wait 5 min even to edit.
Edit2: neverming, I've just read the forum help.
Edit3: What is you opinion/feeling on the i927 Forums and development of ROMS? Still ongoing? Stuck? Dying?
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I'm from Argentina, I will look up what bands the carrier use here. Thank you, Relay 4G seems a strong candidate in my book, too bad I can't get it here via normal means, that is something I have to deal with down here, the choices are really non existant, that is why I'm also looking for someone or some business to get me one from USA.
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If your carrier doesn't even offer HSPA+ specifically (I don't know the situation in your country), I wouldn't even bother. Both Glide and Relay will operate 3G in all four bands used in the US, and neither are LTE capable. If one won't work, neither will the other.
As for procurement: you may find someone on eBay US that will ship internationally. They may request some payment method other than Paypal (due to Paypal/eBay's reputation of siding with the buyer even when said buyer is very obviously and blatantly in the wrong). It's up to you whether the hassle (+exchange rate) is worth it.
Can I ask you some questions about your Glide?
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Protip: never ask to ask, just ask. No one thinks it's rude, and even if the person doesn't get back to you, others may chime in.
Edit1: the Relay 4G is a beast of a phone (dualcorewise), but dang it! the OLED is a pentile matrix
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Glide is also pentile, and a very obvious pentile at that (red has a plainly visible pattern). Looking at the specs, it's very likely the Relay and Glide have the exact same screen.
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It's been aggravatingly slow since forever, and has cooled a bit but she's not dead yet. Relay is definitely more active right now. The fact that the Glide's SoC is rather exotic (the Tegra 2 specifically is freakin' WEIRD) and a pain to develop for hasn't helped any. That said, what we have right now is still pretty recent and is above and beyond DD quality (where the Relay ROMs have just gotten off the ground and still have some glaring issues).
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Speaking of LTE... if that's what you need, look at the Stratosphere II. Yes, it's VZW which is CDMA, but it's an international device meaning it also has a GSM radio, and supports all common LTE bands instead of just whatever VZW uses.
That said, you'd be taking a serious gamble in the ROM dev department -- as of this moment we know NOTHING about the bootloader (it's not even rooted yet) leave alone what nasty surprises there could be waiting for us once we can flash it. And VZW has been by far the worst about bootloaders.
well...
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If your carrier doesn't even offer HSPA+ specifically (I don't know the situation in your country), I wouldn't even bother. Both Glide and Relay will operate 3G in all four bands used in the US, and neither are LTE capable. If one won't work, neither will the other.
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I think they do not even do HSPA+, but even so, I'm not in need of H+ or LTE/4G speeds, my plan only has 512mb/month and I'm barely using half of it, I do not travel a lot, I do comute a lot, and the rest of the time I have WiFi access (I work at IT), so there is that. I'm happy with the 4mb/1mb I get with the 3G, I mostly need it to check mails, be online, Skype, access some servers via RDP and reddit.
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As for procurement: you may find someone on eBay US that will ship internationally. They may request some payment method other than Paypal (due to Paypal/eBay's reputation of siding with the buyer even when said buyer is very obviously and blatantly in the wrong). It's up to you whether the hassle (+exchange rate) is worth it.
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Seeing that the Motorola Photon Q LTE has the SIM card soldered, I will try to see about the MM4. But yeah, I have to see if the hassle, and the waiting times are worth it to me, I had the MM2 for 13 months now, before that I have the Samsung Galaxy Spica (really really low end phone) but made me fell in love with Android.
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Will do, thank you.
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Glide is also pentile, and a very obvious pentile at that (red has a plainly visible pattern). Looking at the specs, it's very likely the Relay and Glide have the exact same screen.
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Crap, in the MM2 I dont even see the pixels (it is a 3.7" screen with 852*480). I tried to google some screen reviews of the Glide but found nothing, that bad is it? I wish I could see it before buying it...
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It's been aggravatingly slow since forever, and has cooled a bit but she's not dead yet. Relay is definitely more active right now. The fact that the Glide's SoC is rather exotic (the Tegra 2 specifically is freakin' WEIRD) and a pain to develop for hasn't helped any. That said, what we have right now is still pretty recent and is above and beyond DD quality (where the Relay ROMs have just gotten off the ground and still have some glaring issues).
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As long there are some cool CM ROMs I'm up for it. The fact is that with my MM2 there are only 4, CM7.1 is totally dead, there is MS2GINGER (which I rather not) and CM10/10.1 which are painfully slow on my device. That is why I recon it is time to change, also I bought it used, so it was an old model when I bought it. I'm poor, and the prices are insane.
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That said, you'd be taking a serious gamble in the ROM dev department -- as of this moment we know NOTHING about the bootloader (it's not even rooted yet) leave alone what nasty surprises there could be waiting for us once we can flash it. And VZW has been by far the worst about bootloaders.
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I think I will keep researching and trying to cool off myself, I was about to pull the trigger on the Glide, but the pentile and 4row keyboard got me thinking, I has stuff that I like/want (1gb RAM, dual core, slide Keyboard) and stuff that I dont, pentile matrix and 4row keyboard. (mm2 also has 4 row keyboard, but I want an upgrade on everything if I'm putting a lotta money on it).
Would you recommend the Glide if the year were 2011/2?
Bottom line, I cant decide yet it seems. Thank you.
edit1: I'm about to pull the trigger on the Glide (it is theRogers version, so that makes it an i927R, that $2900[pesos] are about 467 USD official price or about 350usd black market us dollar price [black market dollar is abut 67% more than official one, the country is in the ****, dont be mistaken, is more than a half month salary of mine.), I've contacted the seller, and awaiting his/her reply.
Besides the pentile screen, on how bad could it be, how flat are the keys? are they totally flat? the action is clicky, springy or rubbery?
Thx again.
xtacb4, I'm from Argentina, and I have a Glide since the early days on 2012, if you want, you can add me on Skype with the same username as here on XDA.
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xtacb4, I'm from Argentina, and I have a Glide since the early days on 2012, if you want, you can add me on Skype with the same username as here on XDA.
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Development on the GLide has slowed to a crawl. No disrespect to the developers they are the best but most have now moved away from the Glide which is now almost a 2 year old phone. I love my Glide but I am envious of all the new Phones coming out with larger displays, LTE and now even IR. Wish I could control my TV with my Glide without need for any other attachment or computer. Our GLide is still one of the best Hardware Keyboard devices but the bad battery drain that makes me have to add an oversize battery making it look like a phone from 5 years ago. We will never get an official JB from our carriers as they have dropped support for our phone already. As for JB from our developers it is promising but unfortunately Bluetooth headset profile is not working or very flaking that makes it not a viable solution especially for those of us that live in areas where it is ilegal to hold your handset and drive.
My recommendation is get the GLide if it is very cheap as it is still a decent phone, but if you can shell out a little more cash get something newer with more support from it's carrier and more people on it in the XDA community.
JB
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Development on the GLide has slowed to a crawl. No disrespect to the developers they are the best but most have now moved away from the Glide which is now almost a 2 year old phone. I love my Glide but I am envious of all the new Phones coming out with larger displays, LTE and now even IR. Wish I could control my TV with my Glide without need for any other attachment or computer. Our GLide is still one of the best Hardware Keyboard devices but the bad battery drain that makes me have to add an oversize battery making it look like a phone from 5 years ago. We will never get an official JB from our carriers as they have dropped support for our phone already. As for JB from our developers it is promising but unfortunately Bluetooth headset profile is not working or very flaking that makes it not a viable solution especially for those of us that live in areas where it is ilegal to hold your handset and drive.
My recommendation is get the GLide if it is very cheap as it is still a decent phone, but if you can shell out a little more cash get something newer with more support from it's carrier and more people on it in the XDA community.
JB
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Sorry, but, I need to ask, why are you quoting me ?
Sorry Santi....My mistake meant to hit Quick reply and quoted you by accident. My apologies again, no disrespect intended.
JB
Well I pulled the trigger on the Glide, and I could not be happiers, it is a superb phone, yes, old, but here we are like 5 years behind everything, so net I'm an 2 years ahead
Thank you everyone and specially santimaster2000.
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Sorry Santi....My mistake meant to hit Quick reply and quoted you by accident. My apologies again, no disrespect intended.
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No problem.
xtacb4 said:
Well I pulled the trigger on the Glide, and I could not be happiers, it is a superb phone, yes, old, but here we are like 5 years behind everything, so net I'm an 2 years ahead
Thank you everyone and specially santimaster2000.
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Hey, we live in the same country and speak the same language, helping you to choose the best Qwerty Phone was almost my responsability.
Also, I may have to rape you later
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...Also, I may have to rape you later
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I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3
xtacb4 said:
I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3
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Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !
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Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !
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They took Sure to jail.
last android with keyboard: SAMSUNG strathospere II and LG mach (booth dual core 1.2ghz 1gb RAM and 5mpx rear camera), I still prefer my captivate glide but its gettin too old now...(sorry for my english i speak spanish...)
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last android with keyboard: SAMSUNG strathospere II and LG mach (booth dual core 1.2ghz 1gb RAM and 5mpx rear camera), I still prefer my captivate glide but its gettin too old now...(sorry for my english i speak spanish...)
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No reason to change unless they release a quad core qwerty phone w/ JB stock.
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No reason to change unless they release a quad core qwerty phone w/ JB stock.
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Exactly !
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Exactly !
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+1
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I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3
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Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !
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+1
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Hey I too play BF3 add me on Origin same name DudeJB.
See you on the battlefield!
What are your account names?
JB
Talking about going offtopic... I'm not really playing Bf3 right now, that was the last time i even played, I somewhat switched to SC2, til i get bored and switch again.
Where should I report that with CM10.1 M3 (M2 too) my Morotola S305 BT headset has music and controls working ok? no phone audio though.