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Questions From A Potential Evo 4G User!!

So my contract will soon end, and i shall say good by to my Sprint Hero. I'm really hoping to get a new phone., namely an epic 4g or an evo 4g.
There are a few things that attract me to the evo over the Epic 4G.
I'm and HTC Fan Boy
DAT SCREEN -coolface.jpg-
I dont like these slide out keyboards.
But as always im hesitant.
There are a few things in which make me extremely nervous about the EVO...
Battery Life
Glass displacement
Rooting Process said to be hard!
Now I must ask you all this... How much battery life would one get assuming he has the evo settings as this.
Stock CPU Clock, Bluetooth off, Wifi off, gps off, 4g off, mobile data always on Off, Screen brightness around 25%, Rooted, Running CM6, launcher pro.

I'm getting around 10to 12 hours with that set up
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1. Battery Life
I get about 15 hours with moderate use, longer with light use. This consists of wifi during the day streaming Pandora, ESPN radio, web browing and 3g on drives to work and at lunch time.
2. Glass displacement
No issues here
3. Rooting Process said to be hard!
Unrevoked 3.21 does all the work with 1 click root.

So you'd say battery life is less of an issue these days with the EVO? Honestly?

XxsydenxX said:
So you'd say battery life is less of an issue these days with the EVO? Honestly?
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If you have your data on always refreshing it can be lol My wife had her phone trying to sync everything every hour so her battery kept dying by 5pm, she of course has a backup battery though. I have a usb charger at work just in case but on weekends I do carry a spare battery just in case I get crazy with the battery. Got 2 spares on ebay for 10 bucks and they hold up pretty well.

XxsydenxX said:
So you'd say battery life is less of an issue these days with the EVO? Honestly?
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Yeah in all honesty my battery can pretty much last as much as I want it to. Depending on usage. Like in idling the phone could probably last 30+ hours, it's just all the games I play and stuff brings that down to like 12. But if for some reason you needed it to last more you could underclock a little and just use it less.
Also, the Epic was said to have same/worse battery life. It's a tough decision though. Personally I went with the Evo, and I've been glad I did because of all the activity on here for the Evo. I don't think the Epic has a root method yet for 2.2.

Aerodynamix said:
Yeah in all honesty my battery can pretty much last as much as I want it to. Depending on usage. Like in idling the phone could probably last 30+ hours, it's just all the games I play and stuff brings that down to like 12. But if for some reason you needed it to last more you could underclock a little and just use it less.
Also, the Epic was said to have same/worse battery life. It's a tough decision though. Personally I went with the Evo, and I've been glad I did because of all the activity on here for the Evo. I don't think the Epic has a root method yet for 2.2.
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I'm thinking i will likely choose the evo then... I cant stand sense though so it's i'm going to root and install cm6 on it. any advice for that guys?

I have the seido battery and it's worth it. I can go two days with moderate use without needign to charge it. Im running CM6 with snap turbo with the new acerlauncher.apk

I may be in the minority here, but the Epic's screen really doesn't impress me. It is bright, but the colors really just look oversaturated, and to my eyes, it looks like a cheap trick. I prefer the EVO's screen, but that's just my preference.
Also, the Epic is much fatter, and after using an EVO for a while, the Epic's slide out keyboard feels like I'm using an old WinMo Pocket PC.

khov07 said:
I may be in the minority here, but the Epic's screen really doesn't impress me. It is bright, but the colors really just look oversaturated, and to my eyes, it looks like a cheap trick. I prefer the EVO's screen, but that's just my preference.
Also, the Epic is much fatter, and after using an EVO for a while, the Epic's slide out keyboard feels like I'm using an old WinMo Pocket PC.
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I couldn't agree more. I was looking at the fascinate yesterday and I thought it looked cheap as well. Evo has more realistic colors in my opinion.
also, cm still isn't available on a galaxy s phone.

Aerodynamix said:
I couldn't agree more. I was looking at the fascinate yesterday and I thought it looked cheap as well. Evo has more realistic colors in my opinion.
also, cm still isn't available on a galaxy s phone.
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Well that settles it...the evo battery minus sense..and lobotomizing features has decent battery.. so im going to get it.

XxsydenxX said:
Well that settles it...the evo battery minus sense..and lobotomizing features has decent battery.. so im going to get it.
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Have you used them both? Hands on? If not, I'd do that first. The epic is in no way a base phone. It has some features of it's own.

XxsydenxX said:
So you'd say battery life is less of an issue these days with the EVO? Honestly?
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I only use my phone moderately throughout the day, checking facebook, gmail, some texts, one or two phone calls. With a full charge at 1PM I am anywhere from 30 to 20 percent battery life when I get home from work at 11PM. That is with 4G off. With 4G on (which I don't have anymore running Cyanogen MOD) I had to put my phone on a charger by about 6PM.
Buy an EVO and a car charger. You will love it, but don't realistically expect to make it from wake to sleep on a single charge.
As for rooting, it couldn't be easier with Unrevoked 3.

XxsydenxX said:
So my contract will soon end, and i shall say good by to my Sprint Hero. I'm really hoping to get a new phone., namely an epic 4g or an evo 4g.
There are a few things that attract me to the evo over the Epic 4G.
I'm and HTC Fan Boy
DAT SCREEN -coolface.jpg-
I dont like these slide out keyboards.
But as always im hesitant.
There are a few things in which make me extremely nervous about the EVO...
Battery Life
Glass displacement
Rooting Process said to be hard!
Now I must ask you all this... How much battery life would one get assuming he has the evo settings as this.
Stock CPU Clock, Bluetooth off, Wifi off, gps off, 4g off, mobile data always on Off, Screen brightness around 25%, Rooted, Running CM6, launcher pro.
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I don't think there's any screen issues with the new ones..
Rooting is easy as hell unless ur stupid. And battery life is same as epic anyway so yeah..
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo

Thinking about purchasing a Gnex

Hey so I am currently using a desire HD rooted running aosp and I love the phone.... the only problem is the battery life ...
I have been thinking about a gnex for a long time .... is struggle to get 12 hours out of this phone without charging through out the day and its killer..
How is the gnex battery life.. are the 5mp pictures still pretty good? And would it be worth getting or should I wait to see the sgs 3 and htc one xl?
Thanks for any input
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA

Gnex is a killer for sure and the 5mp camera is really amazing for 5mp. As for your conserns about battery life you get a full day with about 3-6 hours screen on time depending how you use it with standard battery!

The quality of photos has nothing to do with megapixel.
MP only determines how pixelated your photo will look if you enlarge it and how much it can be enlarged before you start noticing pixels. Of course there's a threshold when smaller mp greatly reduced the quality of photos, but 5 is far away from it.
In short, photos look great.
Battery life is meh, like most smartphones out there.
The newer phones will always have newer technology and better specs, so the wait is never-ending. If you just ask me whether this phone is worth getting now, then the answer is yes, absolutely.

MilkPudding said:
The quality of photos has nothing to do with megapixel.
MP only determines how pixelated your photo will look if you enlarge it and how much it can be enlarged before you start noticing pixels. Of course there's a threshold when smaller mp greatly reduced the quality of photos, but 5 is far away from it.
In short, photos look great.
Battery life is meh, like most smartphones out there.
The newer phones will have newer technology and better specs, so the wait is never-ending. If you just ask me if this phone is worth getting, then the answer is yes, absolutely.
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Battery is "meh" on the Verizon LTE Galaxy Nexus. Battery on GSM Galaxy Nexus is fine.
And agreed with technology and specs. Don't beat the hardware race, beat the software race

mopardroid said:
Hey so I am currently using a desire HD rooted running aosp and I love the phone.... the only problem is the battery life ...
I have been thinking about a gnex for a long time .... is struggle to get 12 hours out of this phone without charging through out the day and its killer..
How is the gnex battery life.. are the 5mp pictures still pretty good? And would it be worth getting or should I wait to see the sgs 3 and htc one xl?
Thanks for any input
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA
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All the replies have been great and with the GSM version of the Galaxy Nexus, I do agree that photo quality (instant pictures) is good and battery life has been great for me (coming from Sprint EVO 3D-CDMA).
The only other factor not mentioned has been the price. Not sure if you're purchasing the device subsidized from a carrier with a 2 yr contract or purchasing off contract, but there are certain pricing points with the life cycle of phones in addition to personal budget contraints which could factor into the decision.
The Galaxy Nexus seems to be at a decent price now having been released back in December, the *premium* price for a brand new device, at least for the GSM version, has fallen a bit.
Also, the time frame around the new device release dates could factor into the pricing and timing of waiting or purchasing a new device.
There is an old saying, a bird in hand is worth two in the bush, meaning having it now can be better than waiting on the prospects of something in the future.
All factors to take into consideration! As a side note, would be great to see a device with the off contract and on conract/subsidized prices over time to see where the "sweet" spots are.
Hope that helps more to the great feedback!

The thing about battery life on these newer smartphones is that your usage choices will dramatically affect battery life, and the gnex is no exception. With the screen brightness turned down and 4G turned off, I can get 4 hours of screen-on time. Turn the brightness up on this huge screen or use the 4G or get in an area of bad reception or any number of other things, and that number can drop to 2 hours pretty quickly. But since its a Nexus, there are lots of kernels out there that can increase these numbers, again depending on your usage.
As an aside, this thing sleeps very well. It would probably last two days on stand-by if I didn't charge it up every night.

The gsm nexus gets superb idle time on battery, but the screen drains quick. So for me it averages out great. The time my phone sits on my desk between usage basically stays dead flat. So usage of like 20 min hear and there gives me great battery life. 8 hour work day i have 50% left, with about 1.5 hour actual screen time.

Thanks for all the feedback guys ... I really appreciate it!
When I have data on and brightness well below 50% I usually see the battery drop 10-15% or more in 15 minutes.... so I'm sure the gnex would be better..
The only thing that I'm worried about is the camera but I have 14 days to see if I like it...
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA

[Q] Battery Life Android vs iPhone

I just had a generic question for people more knowledgeable on the subject than I am.
I recently just tried the Darkside Kernel with Juggernaut 5. In 5 hrs time my battery dropped only 10%. Which for me is fantastic. I tweeted to TDJ thanking him for the kernel and the improved battery life.
"A friend of mine" I use that term loosely because he's been a real a$$ lately, who is also an iphone user then posts on his twitter.
"its been almost 2 days since I last charged my phone. Still at 66% even with regular use."
How is this possible? Isn't the battery in our phone better than the iphone even running a stock ROM. Is he just over estimating to make himself feel good? Any ideas or responses would be appreciated. Thanks.

This clearly is a YMMV situation. The iPhone has been engineered from top to bottom to be as miserly as possible where power consumption is concerned. Every piece of it has been optimized with power consumption in mind. That said, as ADB junkies we're probably doing much more with our buddy Andy than he is with his iPhone. Our screens are bigger, internals use more power, etc. etc.
My guess is if you took an iPhone with similar specs as our device and ran them thru similar tests you'd probably see similar results.

The iPhone 4s on ios 5 has horrific battery life in stand by. Almost no difference in mah pull with the screen off or on. So I'd say with non stop gaming their about the same. But in the pocket ours last alot longer.
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mikeheartless said:
The iPhone 4s on ios 5 has horrific battery life in stand by. Almost no difference in mah pull with the screen off or on. So I'd say with non stop gaming their about the same. But in the pocket ours last alot longer.
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That's what I thought as well. I think he is just trying to be one of those high and mighty iphone users (not all iphone users are like that) that think they are better than everyone else bragging for some reason.
I wasn't comparing what I have to his phone, I was thanking TDJ for improving my battery life on what I have. I just thought his comment was kinda far fetched but had to confirm with people who know more about the subject than I do.

When I had the iPhone 4 forever ago, it regularly lasted 4 to 5 hours a day with LIGHT use. No sync, low brightness. It made me want to throw it out of a window. I left that device and never looked back.
-the ultimate black dragon-

From what I have seen, iPhones have horrible battery life specially with that bug in iOS 5 which Apple said they resolved. However on the other hand iTouches and iPads have great battery life due to the fact that they don't have radios except for the wifi

My girlfriend had to hack the crap out of the SSH in her ipad and remove a bunch of the iPhone damens to get good battery life, because all of the iDevices use the same ios.
My 2nd gen iTouch has iPhone 4s damens and its running ios 4.2.something and has been for years. Kinda weird.
But the ipad gets about a month in stand by with little use.
And the iTouch can get up to 3 if I forget it exists.
All in all, every thing sucks until you hack it.
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lets face it. we just need larger batteries lol.

Is one X worth upgrade form desire HD?

I have had my htc desire hd for nearly 2 years and quite simply its the best phone I have ever owned. Everything more or less works well except GPS which is slow to get a lock. I am seriously considoring upgrading to the HTC one X. I bought the galaxy note but returned it after 1 week. Although tthe screen was outstanding, unfortunately I wasnt a fan of the interface and decided that having got used to htc I would stick with it.
Can someone post a review of the one X compared to a desire HD they may have owned. In particular in these critical areas:
1) Battery life
2) Browsing experience
3) general speed/lag issues
4) speed of GPS lock
Thanks

Having upgraded from a Desire HD:
1) Battery Life - A significant improvement but you will find this to be the case with most phones as the DHD battery life was especially poor.
2) Browsing experience - much faster rendering, increased screen estate helps too
3) general speed/lag issues - The phone feels much faster will less stuttering in sense.
4) speed of GPS lock - again much faster than the DHD and better GPS reception overall.
In addition to this the phone is so much lighter due to the materials in the case and the screen is a massive improvement it looks fantastic and will blow your socks off compared to the DHD.

Two words (DO IT)
You will not look back.
Much better in every way..........
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

mdalek said:
Having upgraded from a Desire HD:
1) Battery Life - A significant improvement but you will find this to be the case with most phones as the DHD battery life was especially poor.
2) Browsing experience - much faster rendering, increased screen estate helps too
3) general speed/lag issues - The phone feels much faster will less stuttering in sense.
4) speed of GPS lock - again much faster than the DHD and better GPS reception overall.
In addition to this the phone is so much lighter due to the materials in the case and the screen is a massive improvement it looks fantastic and will blow your socks off compared to the DHD.
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I too have come from the Desire HD, and I can say - I thought the Desire HD was the best phone on the market until I got my One X.
Once you get your HTC One X you will see a massive improvement with the screen quality, size, weight and overall speed & quality of it in general.
It'll be the best phone you'll own to date.
Go for it.

One Xs screen is just gorgeous compared to the DHD
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the battery sucks compared to the dhd battery, I had much better battery on the dhd, but everything else is better on the htc one x

mox123 said:
the battery sucks compared to the dhd battery, I had much better battery on the dhd, but everything else is better on the htc one x
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The DHD has the same battery life issues when it was first released.
this gets resolved over time with software and kernel updates.
Don't worry about the battery

Biggest upgrade would be the screen that would be the most noticeable. I went from DHD > SGS2 > HOX. And the speed.
The screen is just something you need to see! With the HD resolution it's far superior than the DHD screen.
Battery life will vary but generally it ranges from being poor to being good depending on usage and signal and such.
Go for it as long as you don't mind it has no removable battery and no microSD card slot. If those 2 issues are not important to you then upgrade without a doubt.

Have to agree with everyone else. Compared to literally all other phones, unless you see the One X screen you really don't know just how good it is. I was beyond pleasantly surprised, its stunning and really should be the benchmark for all screens in future.
As for the rest, the phones fast as you would expect, my battery life is absolutely fine as I only keep data on when I know I need it, otherwise its WiFi 100% of the time pretty much. I get well over a day's worth of battery doing this with 60% being on screen time playing games or web browsing.

Hello my friend,
I've had the Desire HD, changed for Sensation XE to finally end up with a One X.
1. Battery was improved but DHD battery either was much better with custom roms and kernels (I would recommend Revolution or Cyanogenmod);
2. Screen-wise it's so much more than Sensation's qHD not to mention the good old DHD. I'm flabbergasted
3. Nice touch, feeling and not heavy at all. In the hot summer days I would never ever want a heavy DHD in my jeans pockets again.
A real bummer it's the lack of memory card slot. Really HTC? I hate those guys for dropping that right now when the microsd cards prices went down.
Two chapters are not covered yet: GPS and audio quality (I'm a die hard lossless fan and I have the unbelievable Sennheiser ie8i headphones so if you're interested I'll keep you posted on this also).
P.S. In order to summarize my rant above: The DHD could be a WWII Panzer. Meanwhile HTC One X it's an UFO.

I had to go back to my DHD for a few days after using my HOX for a week. It was hard to believe that I used to think the DHD screen was crisp lol
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Will loss of micro SD slot be a major problem? All my photos,videos,music are stored on it currently

No, as you can stick it all onto Dropbox
Sent from my HTC One X

I upgraded from a DHD and I most say that the screen on one x completly outcompetes the DHD, big plus! Also I love the 25 gb dropbox space

yup dhd sucks compared. i've gotta use mine again now whilst the one x is off for repair.

Even with custom ROM & Kernel the DHD still feel sluggish sometimes. (Or perhaps partly because it was AOSP ICS ROM put together without HTC's help) That's never been a problem will my HOX so far, even if reviews say it's not as smooth as HOS or SGS3.
Battery life was better for me on DHD with custom kernels. Very much hope for something similar on HOX soon.
GPS and screen - HOX better in every way.
And the camera! Image Sense really is a joy to use.
Go for it!
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

Here I am again, on subject of gps and audio quality:
1. GPS reception its ultra fast and the good old DHD can do nothing in this area. I have full reception of 5-7 satellites in a matter of seconds at 1 meter from my window, several floors above me and tall building in front. There is simply no room for improvement left there.
2. Audio is top notch. I listen to lossless music (FLAC) on Power Amp with Sennheiser ie8i. A nice touch its that one could stop now the beats audio thingy that was sadly always on in the Sensation XE for instance. Ive read in reviews that only the S3 has a better/flatter frequency domain response. Oh well. I am glad for myself that the audio quality gap between the iPhone and the rest of the world disappeared at last...
An ugly side of the ICS 4.0x os is that ringtone volume and notification volume are now connected. This is quite a stupid PIA thing and if somebody knows some solution to this I would gladly love to hear about.

Should I sell the HOX and buy SGN2

Been checking out the N7105T today and has me thinking, HOX is a great phone however the battery is not interchangeable and s-on really sh!%$ me off.

Why is that even a question? GN2 is a beast and beats HOX hands down. Go right ahead. Highly unlikely that you'd be disappointed

Uuaahhh... YES!

i often played around with hox as some friends have them.
HOX > N2
build quality (BY FAR)
i like the camera a tad more on the hox
ui
development possibilities (documentation is there not like exynos)
maybe that pixels cant be seen on the hox (due to smaller screen)
Sound
N2 > HOX
Display color. I just love amoled
Battery 3100mah is just massive
Smart stay and some camera features (that's why I always come back to sammy roms and cant stay on cm or pa or whatever)
swappable sd and battery
even though there are less points in favor of the note 2, those points are more important for me. Super AMOLED and battery life are just such a big impact for my personal decision.

I own both.
Started with the HOX but the battery life was frustrating so I bought the GN2 and it was the right choice in my opinion.
The screen size is quite noticeable in a good way and battery life is a huge improvement.
The note 2 screen is not as sharp but its still good.
Speed wise they honestly feel the same. Both quite smooth with small lags here and there.
If I had the choice again, I would still buy the N2. Though the choice wasn't as hard for me because I still kept the HOX as a music player and spare phone for the car lol
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Lags here and there? Mine doesn't lag at all - when does it lag, usually? Are you using stock kernel?

hi ,
i gave my hox to my son !!
thats how fed up i got with htc ,battery use.. etc !!
Got the note2 and have never missed htc (had about 5 htc phones, over period of time )
got note 2 for about 4./.5 mths now.
on stock rom 4.1.1 and battery use is just awesome ( comparing in" general "of my hox and other devices of mine )
eg in standby mode (overnight ) 1 to 3 % battery use and about 11/ 13 hours standby !
also very smooth ,no lag,and once you start playing around and using Spen ...!!!!
issues like ,"sds( if this ever happens, service provider or insurance, options ? )
, rooting does not worry me as,first it easy to do and i am very happy overall.with performance of note2.
good luck

Dump the HOX. The only thing godly about that phone is the screen but everything else is miles away from the note 2. I am particularly disappointed with the audio quality through earphones because HTC really hyped it up with the beats audio. You will immediately tell the difference between quality once you switch to the Note 2.

Thanks all for your input, battery interchangeable/ life is one of the big deals for me so its time to hunt around. Will donate the HOX to my son, I'm sure he will be wrapped.