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I'm new here, just wanted to say thanks for providing such a great place for HTC EVO information.
I came from the iPhone 3G to the HTC EVO a week or so ago. I had my 3G jailbroken for the main reason I wanted access to applications Apple didn't allow. However, I do love tweaking my phone and it was fun having root access to the file system to put in custom ringtones, etc..
Now that I'm on Android, I have access to any application I want without having to do anything special (main reason I switched, despite the obvious difference in the number of apps available on Android). I love the idea of custom ROMS, but right now it seems a lot of them have various issues like battery drainage or 4G not working correctly.
I'm aware that HTC just recently released the EVO source so it will take some time to migrate code over to improve performance but right now I just don't see much of advantage in rooting your phone. Custom boot loaders are cool, and a few apps seem nice to have if you are rooted, but not much else.
Am I missing something or will is it really not worth wiping all your data and rooting your phone right now? Is it just a matter of some time before the ROMs to improve on such a new phone?
there are pros and there are cons sure.
some roms will boast a better battery life, some will boast better performance, what have you.
many people root just so they can use wireless tether which is as good as any reason to root.
ive personally found the custom roms have cool features which will in the end detract from the main idea its a phone and at the end of the day (For me, where phones and data connection are important) needs to work as a phone.
Im currently using baked snack and i find it provides a better battery life than other roms ive tried, and i can wireless tether which for me is enough at the moment.
edit to say:
over time the roms will get better, more features will be implemented, more options available and better overall performance. the devs here are amazing they really truly are and the only direction to go at this point is up.
Hello everybody!
My question is simple.
Should i wait for the official Froyo for my HTC Desire, or should I usw a custom Rom from this Board?
I am very disappointed with the battery-time of my normal stock 2.1 rom...
My Desire just lasts for about one day with normal usage.
Is the battery-life going to be better with the official froyo (an with roms out of the section of rom-cooking in this board) ?
Would you recommend me to wait for the official Rom, or not?
Are there some reasons against an unofficial froyo-rom?
Wich rom you would recommend at the moment?
(dont need htc-sense...)
Thanks for you help, and sorry for bad english
If you haven't done so already, I'd recommend checking out "Juice Defender" in the Marketplace. You can fine tune your APN/WIFI settings and such to get much more out of your battery. Best of all it's free. If that doesn't satisfy your battery hungry needs then I suggest you stop listening to my advice as I know squat about custom Roms. What I do know though is that battery life is reported to be greatly improved in Froyo.
Even if you wait for official froyo, the devs here will make it better and add more features make it faster etc and you'll be back here in no time you can always unroot your phone of you change your mind.
the proper answer world be depends on how you use your phone, I too would suggest using "Juice Defender" if your battery needs are not met, however note that even if you w8 for the official froyo rom you will probably not notice a major power saving effect over the existing rom. In fact I doubt that you will notice any improvement in battery life whatsoever considering you seem to be a proper power user.
Some custom roms run less services/process so you will be able to save up some battery life, its the only proper way too cut down on power consumption I would imagine the closer to the vanilla system the better.
With HTC straight out lying about the release date for the update (as usual), yesterday I took the plunge and have moved over to DeFroST after rooting.
Based on my initial impressions, battery life has improved. Rooting opens up the possibility of using the brilliant application that is setCPU to very finely tune many battery consuming aspects of the device and should make 48hrs achievable without switching off push and sync. There's a thread in the dev section about this.
I would do it. DeFroST is a brilliant ROM, but there are plenty of gems in the Dev section
bedeabc said:
With HTC straight out lying about the release date for the update (as usual), yesterday I took the plunge and have moved over to DeFroST after rooting.
Based on my initial impressions, battery life has improved. Rooting opens up the possibility of using the brilliant application that is setCPU to very finely tune many battery consuming aspects of the device and should make 48hrs achievable without switching off push and sync. There's a thread in the dev section about this.
I would do it. DeFroST is a brilliant ROM, but there are plenty of gems in the Dev section
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I'm guessing you needed an unlock code to upgrade your radio since your on orange?
i flashed yesterday and , oh boy, what can i say - its great.
you root your phone with unrevoked, then flash a custom rom, then the new radio ( for froyo ). easy, peasy, painless. froyo kicks ass, i chose leedroid and its so speedy, an battery life has improved, altough not too much i think
@ bedeabc
When did HTC lie about the release date:???: the only official announcement I heard was 3rd quarter... there is still weeks/months to go yet. Any reply you see posted via some ones uncle who told my mother that apparently honest to god customer service said two weeks...is not 'official' lol.
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So, you guys think, that its not be worth, to wait for the official froyo?
There will not be some "new" things, i will miss in the froyo, I can get in den Dev-Area?
Cause i dont like it, to change the rom every 2 month ;-)
ATM I have a rooted desire with ocuv kernel.
Untouched radio.
Is the upgread "heavy"? (dangerour, time-expensive?)
Thanks for all of your Help
I just upgraded to Froyo, Android 2.2, yesterday.
Well i think i love it. Extra functions and the speed is incredible.
When rooting & new rom - do you lose HTC Sense?
Dave
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the defrost custom rom is awesome, it'ld go for it tbh
breytex said:
So, you guys think, that its not be worth, to wait for the official froyo?
There will not be some "new" things, i will miss in the froyo, I can get in den Dev-Area?
Cause i dont like it, to change the rom every 2 month ;-)
ATM I have a rooted desire with ocuv kernel.
Untouched radio.
Is the upgread "heavy"? (dangerour, time-expensive?)
Thanks for all of your Help
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Well me personal I'm waiting, if I had a branded phone I probably wouldn't wait as it'll be X amount of weeks after HTC release until you carrier release its version with bloatware.
I am obviously one of those easily satisfied people, I think its a great phone as is with just a few tweaks here and there (voice search, keyboard etc..) which didn't even require root
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When rooting & new rom - do you lose HTC Sense?
Dave
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depends on the new rom. If it has Sense you don't lose it Rooting doesn't concern Sense or anything else on interface
what's important for everyone who's considering to move on new froyo sense roms (2.06) - they're stable and fast, I'm using them for a week and haven't noticed one error or reboot.
You can try them out and then decide for yourself whether to return to eclair, or use them until htc releases official version. I'm certain you will choose second option
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I'm guessing you needed an unlock code to upgrade your radio since your on orange?
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you should check the radio thread in development subforum, last version of radio doesn't lock Orange phones...
Hey guys,
A friend of mine just got an Incredible and for the most part is loving it. The only problem he has is that the battery has a very short life in comparison (I'm on a nexus one and I usually get 4 or 5 hours more than him doing the same amount of activity)
I was just wondering if replacing sense with Launcher Pro or ADW or something would help out his battery life any. I'm not exactly sure how the launcher or custom skins affect battery life. I figure this would be the best place to ask.
Thanks in advance
the best thing I've found to improve battery life within the OS is to go into the sync settings and set everything in there that you don't use to either update manually or update once a day. Even though I never set it up to, it had stocks/news/weather setup to update hourly as the default.
If he uses facebook set that up to update once a day. I personally didn't need it to update every 15 minutes because you can refresh it whenever you want to check it. Wether you use sense or not it still runs in the background since so many apps are built into it.
Use autobrightness or a lower screen brightness. set the screen timeout for 15-30 seconds.
little things like that save big in battery
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Hey guys,
A friend of mine just got an Incredible and for the most part is loving it. The only problem he has is that the battery has a very short life in comparison (I'm on a nexus one and I usually get 4 or 5 hours more than him doing the same amount of activity)
I was just wondering if replacing sense with Launcher Pro or ADW or something would help out his battery life any. I'm not exactly sure how the launcher or custom skins affect battery life. I figure this would be the best place to ask.
Thanks in advance
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Sadly, no it won't help. The Sense UI program (Rosie) continues to run in the background even with Launcherpro installed. His best bet is to root and install one of the Froyo roms we have. My battery life has improved tremendously since I upgraded.
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Sadly, no it won't help. The Sense UI program (Rosie) continues to run in the background even with Launcherpro installed. His best bet is to root and install one of the Froyo roms we have. My battery life has improved tremendously since I upgraded.
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This!
Also, he probably wants to get one of the 1500mAh batteries that fits with the oe back cover. ( I got mine off ebay for $15 )
edit: here is the item: http://item.ebay.com/170500602834
With that battery and SkyRaider's 2.2 rom, I can EASILY get at least a full day out of mine.
Also, like was stated a few posts up, changing the programs that are syncing to do so less frequently will help a lot.
(Hope it's OK to cross post...) see this thread, it has a lot of tips on getting better battery life all compiled into one thread.
http://androidforums.com/tips-tricks-incredible/61755-want-incredible-battery-life-official-htc-incredible-battery-thread.html
Thanks for the help guys.
I showed him this thread this morning and he doesn't want to root yet because he read somewhere about the new update from Verizon un-rooting the phone with the OTA update. I explained that a custom rom wouldnt get the OTA but he wants to wait nonetheless
He did disable sync and purchased the new battery today though so hopefully that kicks the battery to at least 12 hours.
So there is no way to completely shut off the Sense UI at this point without completely loading a new ROM? Boo.
He needs to realize that there is no guarantee that he'll be able to root AFTER the official OTA comes out. If he plans on rooting he should do it NOW, and after the ota comes out the devs will make a rooted rom based on it.
For all we know, the ota will patch the exploit that had allowed us to get root access to begin with.
Make sure he knows that if he is rooted and running a custom rom, the ota will not be loaded, thus his phone will not be "unrooted".
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execute_method said:
He needs to realize that there is no guarantee that he'll be able to root AFTER the official OTA comes out. If he plans on rooting he should do it NOW, and after the ota comes out the devs will make a rooted rom based on it.
For all we know, the ota will patch the exploit that had allowed us to get root access to begin with.
Make sure he knows that if he is rooted and running a custom rom, the ota will not be loaded, thus his phone will not be "unrooted".
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What he said.
I'm running Skyraider's latest. It seems to be fairly bug free for me, it has Froyo and all of it's goodness, plus it has some goodies that probably won't be available with the VZW update.
The unrEVOked team isn't confident they can root the update. Within hours of the VZW update hitting the airwaves, the devs will have stable ROMs based on it.
On the other hand...if you don't have any real reason to root...there's not a capability you need that rooted phones have, or you don't like living on the edge of root, or you don't have an experimental side to you...rooting offers no real advantage.
I have had several android phones that i have rooted in the past and i can be classified as a flash-a-holic, I love messing with my phone.
With that stated it seems that rooting an flashing new roms is also a headache. I have not found a rom with my evo or s2 that does not have bugs and problems.
So my question is - what are the good reasons to root my Note 2. I feel that if i root and flash it is an never ending process to find the perfect rom that does not exist.
The Note to is wonderful as is - battery is great.
I HATE the puke green battery icon and love what others can do with the setup that i cannot. But its not worth it if the roms have bugs.
I do not like the bloat on the phone and would love to get rid of it but is it worth it?
I would love to see some compelling reasons to root this phone.
Thanks for your input in advance.
I rooted my note for two reasons: I am able to use external ntsf hdd ( now I use ssd without the need to use external power) AND the second reason was to increase audio output volume. I use samsung stock firmware. I am verry pleased.
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The main reason I have mine rooted is the hotspot hack. I have a stock Rom but rooted. That's it. I used to be a flash aholic but I found it tiring to reset my phone every time. I don't want to run the risk of missing something important. I do love to theme though. Just depends on what you want to do.
Rockin' the Sprint Note 2
salukis93 said:
I have had several android phones that i have rooted in the past and i can be classified as a flash-a-holic, I love messing with my phone.
With that stated it seems that rooting an flashing new roms is also a headache. I have not found a rom with my evo or s2 that does not have bugs and problems.
So my question is - what are the good reasons to root my Note 2. I feel that if i root and flash it is an never ending process to find the perfect rom that does not exist.
The Note to is wonderful as is - battery is great.
I HATE the puke green battery icon and love what others can do with the setup that i cannot. But its not worth it if the roms have bugs.
I do not like the bloat on the phone and would love to get rid of it but is it worth it?
I would love to see some compelling reasons to root this phone.
Thanks for your input in advance.
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you don't need to root your phone if you don't have a reason to. don't force it.
personally, i wholly intended to stay pure stock...but then that exynos exploit thing surfaced.
a) it made rooting ridiculously easy
b) it made the phone ridiculously vulnerable.
so i decided to use the patch, but since i'm already there, i just rooted. i have no intentions of flashing custom roms either, though that may change later as roms mature and gain s-pen related applications.
also, titanium backup. i needed to import my game saves.
i'm still in my as-stock-as-possible mood, so I'm still using stock recovery. no nandroids backups sadly, but considering i don't mess with the phone all that much, i don't think i'll need it. TI backup is good enough.
I'm stock rooted for free tether, directory bind, titanium backup, and other tweaks that pop up that I may like as time goes on. It's really easy to do with the toolkit so I figured why not. Intend to stay stock for now, this thing is so amazing already. I got MOGA for Christmas as well as some play store money so I have lots of games and the 11gb available storage is no where near enough without app2sd or the directory bind solution. Could hold 2 maybe 3 big games before now have probably 10-12.
Swyped On My Beast Note II
Blocking ads..my number 1 reason to root.
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mulhiny said:
Blocking ads..my number 1 reason to root.
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I agree. Mine too. Reason number 1 why I did it was because I wanted the "multi-view mod" love watching a movie and texting people at the sammw time its awesome
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Wifi tether, remove bloatware, and having no limitations to what mods/apps I can use. Plus, just because you root your phone doesn't mean that you have to flash a custom rom.
ad blocking and titanium backup.
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Wifi tether, remove bloatware, and having no limitations to what mods/apps I can use. Plus, just because you root your phone doesn't mean that you have to flash a custom rom.
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Yep. Other than the bloat, the stock ROM is better than some custom ROMs. I say root (for the options) and run the debloater. When I first picked up this phone I thought about keeping it unrooted. Naturally though I was rooted an hour later.
Like some people, I used to install different roms but now I just root to get hotspot feature and some apps that require root. But I stay with stock.
Sent from my Amazing Galaxy Note 2!
adamantypants said:
Yep. Other than the bloat, the stock ROM is better than some custom ROMs. I say root (for the options) and run the debloater. When I first picked up this phone I thought about keeping it unrooted. Naturally though I was rooted an hour later.
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Do you happen to have a link handy for the debloater?
Sent from my big big BIG iphone killer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997346
I actually haven't used it myself. I'm running a custom rom XP
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997346
I actually haven't used it myself. I'm running a custom rom XP
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Thanks! Although i dont have cwm or twrp on my phone : /
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I started rooting when I had the SG2, and continued when I had the S3. I found myself continuously changing roms, looking for something better, and then ended up missing out on the stock things (like samsungs custom stuff).
I told myself I wouldn't root my Note 2, but the final straw was broken when I was when I stayed at an expensive hotel that wanted $7 an hour for the wifi. I needed the hotspot hack.
I'm on stock rooted, but I guess you can say the main reasons I am rooted are:
Hotspot hack
Google wallet (even though it hasn't worked for me once yet)
I don't mind the bloat nor the ads. I don't download shady apps from Google Play so I don't have advertisement notifications. As for the bloat, some of it is useful and I like it.
My number one reason to ROOT is to control the processors. You think battery life is great, wait till you reduce some of the processing power. I have mine MAX at 1GHz, and it never misses a beat! I'm sure it's due to the quad core and 2GB of RAM that makes it feel just as fast as if i had left it at the stock settings (1.6GHz).
And I am a flash-a-holic, but I like it...makes me feel like I got a new phone every week! hahaha
I haven't rooted mine for the sole reason that its too much of a headache to me with previous phones. Too often I lost messaging and internet and I personally don't have the money to buy a new phone if i break it. It's a personal decision you have to make where the good outweighs the potential bad
I root for the themes!
Its nice to be able to switch it up once and a while.
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I haven't rooted mine for the sole reason that its too much of a headache to me with previous phones. Too often I lost messaging and internet and I personally don't have the money to buy a new phone if i break it. It's a personal decision you have to make where the good outweighs the potential bad
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Easy one clicks root is the easiest way to go.
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Overclock.
Get the most out of the new processor.
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So I've had the phone for a while, I am confident there are no physical faults and don't mind partially voiding my warranty. I've always struggled with battery life and ever since the Nougat update, my phone has been slowing down and experiencing some random issues such as very high WiFi latency and small 1-2s freezes.
Obviously a factory reset is in order and since I'm going to wipe the phone anyway, I was thinking I might root it as I have rooted all my past HTC phones; the only reason why I haven't rooted the 10 was because I was content with its performance (was) and I was waiting for Nougat, which I finally received.
Since the 10 might get Android O in the future, and it would be much easier to update over OTA, I was curious how everyone's experiences with custom ROMs and Kernels on the 10 has been? Have you experienced noticeably better battery life, performance, etc, what ROM/Kernel combinations do you guys recommend? Do you think rooting is a good choice?
Any comments welcome!
ryanjsoo said:
So I've had the phone for a while, I am confident there are no physical faults and don't mind partially voiding my warranty. I've always struggled with battery life and ever since the Nougat update, my phone has been slowing down and experiencing some random issues such as very high WiFi latency and small 1-2s freezes.
Obviously a factory reset is in order and since I'm going to wipe the phone anyway, I was thinking I might root it as I have rooted all my past HTC phones; the only reason why I haven't rooted the 10 was because I was content with its performance (was) and I was waiting for Nougat, which I finally received.
Since the 10 might get Android O in the future, and it would be much easier to update over OTA, I was curious how everyone's experiences with custom ROMs and Kernels on the 10 has been? Have you experienced noticeably better battery life, performance, etc, what ROM/Kernel combinations do you guys recommend? Do you think rooting is a good choice?
Any comments welcome!
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I root all of my devices but for specific reasons. I like to be able to remove unwanted applications and logging, I only want what I want running on my device. I also root to block ads with adaway, although there are alternative non root options now for this. Another benefit of root is modding, whether through a custom ROM or a stock ROM that you flash various mods to.
I initially ran the stock ROM rooted but soon found some limitations with the sd card.
A stock based custom ROM was the solution for me ( leedroid , but there are others ) . My battery life improved greatly and some mods do genuinely enhance the experience. Most roms have an installer that allows you to select everything that's installed, including kernel .
Another advantage for me is Titanium backup, the ability to backup applications prior to updating them and restore older versions of apps .
Your choice, but I enjoy the flexibility and freedom of root to take control over how my phone runs .