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[Q] Sense VS Launcher Pro

Hey guys,
A friend of mine just got an Incredible and for the most part is loving it. The only problem he has is that the battery has a very short life in comparison (I'm on a nexus one and I usually get 4 or 5 hours more than him doing the same amount of activity)
I was just wondering if replacing sense with Launcher Pro or ADW or something would help out his battery life any. I'm not exactly sure how the launcher or custom skins affect battery life. I figure this would be the best place to ask.
Thanks in advance

the best thing I've found to improve battery life within the OS is to go into the sync settings and set everything in there that you don't use to either update manually or update once a day. Even though I never set it up to, it had stocks/news/weather setup to update hourly as the default.
If he uses facebook set that up to update once a day. I personally didn't need it to update every 15 minutes because you can refresh it whenever you want to check it. Wether you use sense or not it still runs in the background since so many apps are built into it.
Use autobrightness or a lower screen brightness. set the screen timeout for 15-30 seconds.
little things like that save big in battery

unknownrebelx said:
Hey guys,
A friend of mine just got an Incredible and for the most part is loving it. The only problem he has is that the battery has a very short life in comparison (I'm on a nexus one and I usually get 4 or 5 hours more than him doing the same amount of activity)
I was just wondering if replacing sense with Launcher Pro or ADW or something would help out his battery life any. I'm not exactly sure how the launcher or custom skins affect battery life. I figure this would be the best place to ask.
Thanks in advance
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Sadly, no it won't help. The Sense UI program (Rosie) continues to run in the background even with Launcherpro installed. His best bet is to root and install one of the Froyo roms we have. My battery life has improved tremendously since I upgraded.

Asterdroid said:
Sadly, no it won't help. The Sense UI program (Rosie) continues to run in the background even with Launcherpro installed. His best bet is to root and install one of the Froyo roms we have. My battery life has improved tremendously since I upgraded.
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This!
Also, he probably wants to get one of the 1500mAh batteries that fits with the oe back cover. ( I got mine off ebay for $15 )
edit: here is the item: http://item.ebay.com/170500602834
With that battery and SkyRaider's 2.2 rom, I can EASILY get at least a full day out of mine.
Also, like was stated a few posts up, changing the programs that are syncing to do so less frequently will help a lot.
(Hope it's OK to cross post...) see this thread, it has a lot of tips on getting better battery life all compiled into one thread.
http://androidforums.com/tips-tricks-incredible/61755-want-incredible-battery-life-official-htc-incredible-battery-thread.html

Thanks for the help guys.
I showed him this thread this morning and he doesn't want to root yet because he read somewhere about the new update from Verizon un-rooting the phone with the OTA update. I explained that a custom rom wouldnt get the OTA but he wants to wait nonetheless
He did disable sync and purchased the new battery today though so hopefully that kicks the battery to at least 12 hours.
So there is no way to completely shut off the Sense UI at this point without completely loading a new ROM? Boo.

He needs to realize that there is no guarantee that he'll be able to root AFTER the official OTA comes out. If he plans on rooting he should do it NOW, and after the ota comes out the devs will make a rooted rom based on it.
For all we know, the ota will patch the exploit that had allowed us to get root access to begin with.
Make sure he knows that if he is rooted and running a custom rom, the ota will not be loaded, thus his phone will not be "unrooted".
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execute_method said:
He needs to realize that there is no guarantee that he'll be able to root AFTER the official OTA comes out. If he plans on rooting he should do it NOW, and after the ota comes out the devs will make a rooted rom based on it.
For all we know, the ota will patch the exploit that had allowed us to get root access to begin with.
Make sure he knows that if he is rooted and running a custom rom, the ota will not be loaded, thus his phone will not be "unrooted".
Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk
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What he said.
I'm running Skyraider's latest. It seems to be fairly bug free for me, it has Froyo and all of it's goodness, plus it has some goodies that probably won't be available with the VZW update.
The unrEVOked team isn't confident they can root the update. Within hours of the VZW update hitting the airwaves, the devs will have stable ROMs based on it.
On the other hand...if you don't have any real reason to root...there's not a capability you need that rooted phones have, or you don't like living on the edge of root, or you don't have an experimental side to you...rooting offers no real advantage.

[Q] Which ROM should I use? What's the best ROM?

I want to try to determine what is the best rom 2.09 Froyo - based for HTC Desire.
In the last week I've tried a large number of ROMs. I've really liked 2 of these:
- Roufianos V6 (It's the one that I'm using at the moment)
- OpenDesire 3.0.4 (I know that the 3.0.5 is out but I haven't tried it yet)
Obviously there are many other excellent rom but I haven't got the time to try them, such as:
- Alex V1.1 official OTA cooked by Paul from MoDaCo (I've not tried it yet but I thing it is good)
- Lambros Custom Rom r3.1 --- I've tried it: in my opinion it's the best. Very fast, stable, no problem, no crashes. The chef always helps you and give you what you ask him! Fantastic! (link hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745447 )
- Pays-ROM
- Others....
Well, I don't know what is better.... can you help me choosing a ROM please?
If you thing that there are better ROMs instead of the ones that I've written, please tell me about them.
Thanks to all.
GiO
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Can you link the Alex v1.1 on this thread I can't seem to find it and would love to try it
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IMO this comes down to the "SENSE UI",
you wanna have SENSE and all the HTC bells and whistles? LeeDroid 1.8 or Neophyte NextSense 4.0
you don´t give a damn about SENSE (like me)? OpenDesire 3.0.5 is just AWESOME.
Both options are really good but it´s a question of personal preference I think.

ranchu said:
Can you link the Alex v1.1 on this thread I can't seem to find it and would love to try it
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hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745919
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I don't know if is necessary for me... I don't really like the launcher, I use Launcher Pro Plus and it works great! I also really like the Sense app, like contacts, music, app sharing, and apps like that... I really don't know what to do :S
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ranchu said:
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has Leedroid gotten rid of the SD card bug now? i found a lot of bugs with 1.7 in fact i would go as far to say it was the worst rom i have tried (and i have flashed nearly all within the last 2 weeks.

i use neophyte nextsense aswell its v good. i haven't used a non-sense rom since the defrost one which was using the nexus froyo (back in june i think).
however from looking at the 'post your screenshots' thread in the themes and apps section i'm tempted to go back to non-sense as some of the roms and mods make it look really cool.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=665991&page=106
what does everyone think is the coolest / sexiest looking setup?

Neophyte 1.6. You will not go wrong. If you think those other roms are good, you will ejaculate in your pants with a neo Rom. I think that first neophyte Rom comes down to a fluke of nature. His latest Rom nextsense is good and I enjoy playing. But the occasional bug. Still better than anything else I believe.

I prefer modaco official version.

Neophyte 1.6 as said. You will not find a more stable or better ROM imo.

why don't you give a go on my rom....i saw you haven't mentioned it....
the latest r3.1 version is as stable a rom can be and i have 2 versions.....one if you want all the HTC apps and one with HTC Sense but without the apps, just launcher, widgets and main apps (people,dialer,mail, calendar)

sbdags said:
Neophyte 1.6 as said. You will not find a more stable or better ROM imo.
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My brother tried it and sad me that is a very fast and stable rom. The problem is that it's based on 2.06 relase... What are the differences between the 2.06 relasa and the 2.09 one (the official OTA rom) ?

lambrospower said:
why don't you give a go on my rom....i saw you haven't mentioned it....
the latest r3.1 version is as stable a rom can be and i have 2 versions.....one if you want all the HTC apps and one with HTC Sense but without the apps, just launcher, widgets and main apps (people,dialer,mail, calendar)
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I'd like to try your rom, I've seen it two night ago but the problem is that I'm very tired about doing the wipe every time!! And I don't know how to use titanium backup... that's the problem

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Neophyte 1.6 as said. You will not find a more stable or better ROM imo.
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+1
who cares if its 2.06. it owns 2.09 like nothing else.
faster, more stable, better battery life. what more needs to be said? =P

gio.desire said:
I'd like to try your rom, I've seen it two night ago but the problem is that I'm very tired about doing the wipe every time!! And I don't know how to use titanium backup... that's the problem
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i can help you learn it if you want....PM me if you do
believe me i tried a lot roms and not cause it's mine but cause it's true you will like it a lot...STABLE AND FAST....battery life is on the good side...i was on holidays last week for 7 days and i charged the phone just once (light use though, 10-15 calls, 20-30 pics daily and a couple sms) and in 7 day night i had to charge again...with medium-high use you can get 1.5 days if you charge properly....
BUT ANYTHING anyone says is not true until you try something...this is what i think....it may work on you and don't work on me who knows

Dunbad said:
Neophyte 1.6. You will not go wrong. If you think those other roms are good, you will ejaculate in your pants with a neo Rom. I think that first neophyte Rom comes down to a fluke of nature. His latest Rom nextsense is good and I enjoy playing. But the occasional bug. Still better than anything else I believe.
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Neophyte 1.6 as said. You will not find a more stable or better ROM imo.
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beebow said:
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who cares if its 2.06. it owns 2.09 like nothing else.
faster, more stable, better battery life. what more needs to be said? =P
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What about the battery? How often do you have to charge the phone? In every rom I've tried the battery sucks!

as for the battery i think you can't compare it just right when you flash the rom....myself i do one full charging cycle and then rate a rom's battery life in order to get the full idea....
flash the rom, charge it till 100% (unplug before discharge) and then see how it does

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as for the battery i think you can't compare it just right when you flash the rom....myself i do one full charging cycle and then rate a rom's battery life in order to get the full idea....
flash the rom, charge it till 100% (unplug before discharge) and then see how it does
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hi lambrospower. I am just downloading your rom and will give it a try mate. Going back to your battery comment, this is a question that i have been thinking about for some time, but never got around to asking anyone, i hope you may know the answer for me? Since i have had my desire (3 months) the only way that i have ever charged it is with USB. Maybe once i have done a full charge with the 240v adaptor, the rest of the time it is plugged into my PC either charging or as a disk drive, my question is, will that make a difference to my overall battery performance? because i havent been charging it with the mains adaptor will my battery be "weaker" than a person that has always used the in-wall charger? I seem to get really bad battery life with most roms that i have tried (and believe me, i have tried a lot!!) yesterday i went out for a few hours, around 3 hours, battery was at 100% when i left, 3 hours later 55%!! now in my eyes that is a hell of a lot of decrease...... This was with NeYophyTeNexTSense rom (but i cant fault NeYo, he is a good chef, hats off to the lad, this is why i think its me thats either doing something wrong (settings) or it is in fact a battery problem??

Hi guys, I really like OpenDesire, but it's stock Google ROM (or based thereon) so it's got no FM Radio functionality. A question to all users of stock ROMs: how do you guys cope with the absence of an FM Radio knowing that hardware-wise your Desire supports it but the software does not have it? As for me personally, I've been tilting back and forth between OpenDesire-like ROMs and SenseUI-like ROMs, and it's still bugs me. On the one hand, I love the stock ROM for its cleanliness and overall looks (without Sense bells & whistles), but that I don't have the FM radio keeps bugging me like hell. Can anyone share their experiences?

[Q] Planning to buy this phone

Hey guys i'm planning to buy motorola defy in next month. As i've to stick to this phone for 3 years i want to ask you some questions or clear my doubt. 1. Will this phone get android 2.2? 2. If I flashed with custom rom of 2.2 will adobe flash 10.1 work on it? 3. Is flashing this phone difficult or easy? 4. What about its sound quality? Is it better than galaxy 3 or nokia 5800xm? 5. Will HD games work on this device?

1,2,5: yes
3: easy
4: don't know, didn't have those phones to test the Defy against
There are a few 2.2 leaked ROMs, I'm using one myself and flash is running smoothly. The official update will be released in the second half of this month

Sound quality is good. The Defy is in every respect technically a high-end phone, comparable to Galaxy s i9000, HTC Desire HD.
Galaxy 3 is rather medium-class.
The only negative points IMO are that the screen is very reflective in sunlight and the camera could be better.

And battery performance is VERY unpredictable!!

You mean battery life not good?

Battery life is good comparing to other android phones. It is 2~3 days for normal use.

yes, the screen is a bit reflective, but if you set it bright enough, it's very nice! and battery performance is quite good, i get about 2 days with some gaming and 3G/wifi constantly on! the only thing i'm missing from this phone is full multitouch, as it has only two point mt, which can be disturbing in some games (like tap tap revenge). otherwise it's a very good phone, with great overclock/undervolt potential!
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App

questions regarding DEFY
I heard that defy bootloader is locked hence custom rom is not possible for defy then how come custom roms are available in dev thread?

They're not true custom ROMs, they're just standard ones with some of the stock apps removed and others pre-loaded.
The bootloader is locked and that's why, for example, CyanogenMod isn't available for the Defy or Gingerbread.

Thank's Guys!
I'll buy a defy tomorrow, and this answers helped me to make my choice (principally
the battery time).

you wont go far wrong with this phone. performance/price wise, i think this is one of the best in the market right now

lanfearxt said:
you wont go far wrong with this phone. performance/price wise, i think this is one of the best in the market right now
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i agree. great device. the phone is basically a screen and feels light like a dummy phone!

Its one of the smallest android phones with a decent screen.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App

My defy has arrived
I'm very excited with the cel. Very satisfying.

time to root and install some custom ROMS!!

Step666 said:
They're not true custom ROMs, they're just standard ones with some of the stock apps removed and others pre-loaded.
The bootloader is locked and that's why, for example, CyanogenMod isn't available for the Defy or Gingerbread.
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there is someone with cynogenmod 7 for defy in dev thread, how could it be possible then...really confused about defys potential & ability for custom roms..

One question: what is the last oficial android version? Here in brazil, the last available is 2.1...
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2.2 is already out, ans cm7 using 2.3 will probably get a final stable release version soon

I'm curently running CM7(beta 3) and it's doing pretty well.
Though there are still some things to be fixed, it is definitely an increase of performance and battery life, and will be worth of updating once it is fully stable.

rusty4ever said:
I heard that defy bootloader is locked hence custom rom is not possible for defy then how come custom roms are available in dev thread?
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Most of'em are, as abovesaid, pretty much customized standart ROMs.
However, 2nd Init "hack" was recently intoruced, which kinda bypasses locked bootloader. Hence CM7 goodness.
At least you don't have to worry a single bit using DEFy in the rain

[Q] will there be PLAIN gingerbread??

Hi!
First of all i want to say Hi to all desire z / g2 users! Recently i have bought desire z - before i was an g1 user - and i've loved it. BUT...
I have never used HTC SENSE before, and now i know for sure - hate it. To big, to complicated. What i like is just simple Android GUI. So...my question is: does any Devs are working on plain desire z (hopefully gingerbread) rom? And is there any new, stable and fast rom without sense or miui?
[Edit] oh! I believe i didn't make myself clear....i know, that i can install launcher pro or adw, but all stuff from sense is still there...dialaer, sms app, even keyboard pisses me off....i want as plain as it can be ginger - is CM7 the only way for me??
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Regards, Lukas
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Right now I think all stock roms are CM7 based. If you want pure stock it sounds like your may have to wait until someone roots the official gingerbread release for you to flash.
For the record CM7 with the stock launcher had been fantastic for me.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2

Thanks for fast replay!
I've never used brand new phone before, so that's why, if i finally apply non_htc_rom, i want it to be as close to my expectations as possible.
Ok. So - i have to wait for rooted gingerbread...meanwhile i'll read something more about CM7. On g1 and CM5/6 i had a lot of stability and performance issues such as problems with g-sensor, touch display hangs etc., thats why i'm trying not to apply this rom....but.....SENSE UI is horrible....i think in a few days i will perform upgrade to cm7 to see what it's worth!
Once again - thanks for reply
Regards!
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l.weglarczyk said:
Thanks for fast replay!
I've never used brand new phone before, so that's why, if i finally apply non_htc_rom, i want it to be as close to my expectations as possible.
Ok. So - i have to wait for rooted gingerbread...meanwhile i'll read something more about CM7. On g1 and CM5/6 i had a lot of stability and performance issues such as problems with g-sensor, touch display hangs etc., thats why i'm trying not to apply this rom....but.....SENSE UI is horrible....i think in a few days i will perform upgrade to cm7 to see what it's worth!
Once again - thanks for reply
Regards!
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You cannot compare the G1 cm5/6 experience to the G2 cm6/7 experience. I also had the G1. It was a great phone in its time. It did not have the hardware to run those roms properly though. It is a testament to the cm team that we even had it to begin with. The G2, however, is perfectly capable of handling these roms and does so exceptionally.
My wife has a G2 as well. She keeps hers stock. At times, I grab her phone in the car to pull up maps or something. It is immediately apperant the difference in the feel of the phone. My phone running cm7 rc4 is noticably smoother and faster.
I think that if you give cm7 a go, you will not be disappointed.

Just so you know, multiple sites are reporting today that the g2 will receive it's update this quarter.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2

Nospin said:
Just so you know, multiple sites are reporting today that the g2 will receive it's update this quarter.
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Well, here's hoping I can install it without losing S-Off. If they package it like they did for the MT3G, I wouldn't mind so much either...
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Here's the article (or one of them) stating "an HTC spokesperson" says that an official "vanilla" Gingerbread ROM is coming to the G2 this summer:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/18102/htc_t_mobile_g2_gingerbread?source=rss_cwbloggers
Sounds a bit rumour-y right now. But good to hear, nonetheless.

As already stated, try CM7, it is running PERFECT for me!
..... also this may be of interest to you.....
from http://www.villainrom.co.uk/forum/content.php/279-VillainROM
A priority for me will be a new Gingerbread vanilla build, which will replace the current GingerVillain. I don’t expect work to start on this until mid-April, so please bear with me.
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Is gingerbread 2.3 officially out for the Desire yet?

I have tried numerous custom 2.3 roms but each one eventually causes me a headache in the end. I honestly do appreciate all the hard work going into these roms but unless somebody can point me in the direction of a 99.9% troublefree 2.3 I will have to stick to 2.2 for the time being.

no, 2.3 is not officially out yet, i know the roll out time in the UK as at some point at the end of the year (after all the naff branding the carriers have to put on them)

end of this month (or sometime in the next few months) is the most proposed theory at the moment.
when the official 2.3 release/RUU etc. comes out that'll probably lead to a few more stable roms IMO

AdamG's Oxygen and his DevNull have both been 100% trouble free for me.. Tried one of those?

michaeljen said:
AdamG's Oxygen and his DevNull have both been 100% trouble free for me.. Tried one of those?
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I agree, Oxygen is best Rom I've flashed
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I'm running CM7 and have no complaints whatsoever!! It's very customizable, has some great goodies and is very smooth and fast! And upgradable with no wipes!!

michaeljen said:
AdamG's Oxygen and his DevNull have both been 100% trouble free for me.. Tried one of those?
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How long have you been using it for if you don't mind me asking? Do all apps work well once installed? No freeze problems?

HasanCaliskan said:
I agree, Oxygen is best Rom I've flashed
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How long have you been using the rom if you don't mind me asking? It's just after a week or 2 I start getting problems with gingerbread roms.

Gingerbread update for Desire by the end of May
"Three, a carrier based in UK has responded to one of its customers saying that the Gingerbread update for Desire would arrive by the end of May on their carrier locked phones." If that's true we should have it here on xda soon
source: Finally! An ETA on HTC Desire Gingerbread Update

DesUKire said:
I have tried numerous custom 2.3 roms but each one eventually causes me a headache in the end. I honestly do appreciate all the hard work going into these roms but unless somebody can point me in the direction of a 99.9% troublefree 2.3 I will have to stick to 2.2 for the time being.
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Have you tried CM7? Pretty damn stable and fast, no problems on my Telus Desire.

DesUKire said:
I have tried numerous custom 2.3 roms but each one eventually causes me a headache in the end. I honestly do appreciate all the hard work going into these roms but unless somebody can point me in the direction of a 99.9% troublefree 2.3 I will have to stick to 2.2 for the time being.
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The popular stock android roms out right now are very stable and if you do happen to find a bug, there's usually aa update within the week to fix it.
I'm running ReflexS 2.0.7 and it's actually running very fast considering that it's running sense. I'm running it with cm7 hboot but it worked great with stock hboot too. I find that you really just have to try a few roms to try and get a feel for which one works best with your phone and your needs.

Seronez said:
"Three, a carrier based in UK has responded to one of its customers saying that the Gingerbread update for Desire would arrive by the end of May on their carrier locked phones." If that's true we should have it here on xda soon
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I wouldn't bet on the end of may.
They have always been mentioning end of month but june, not may.

Its about time for the update to come out we waited so long now and all other models have gotten just do it already im sick of waiting.

Honestly, if you don't mind losing Sense, then AdamG's Oxygen and Devnull are top of the shop. Both updated now to 2.3.4 and as hack-free as possible.
DevNull is as plain-jane as you can get, I personally prefer the extended power controls and pull-down notifications menu on Oxygen.
I've been using Oxygen since the first 2.3 build (since end of February) and have had one restart in that time and no freezes.
I have it running with LauncherPro 0.86 and it is smooth, bug-free and has very good battery over Froyo stock. I hammer it with wifi browsing, couple of hours of mp3 a day and my office has terrible signal. I generally finish the day on 40%+.

JokerNJ said:
Honestly, if you don't mind losing Sense, then AdamG's Oxygen and Devnull are top of the shop. Both updated now to 2.3.4 and as hack-free as possible.
DevNull is as plain-jane as you can get, I personally prefer the extended power controls and pull-down notifications menu on Oxygen.
I've been using Oxygen since the first 2.3 build (since end of February) and have had one restart in that time and no freezes.
I have it running with LauncherPro 0.86 and it is smooth, bug-free and has very good battery over Froyo stock. I hammer it with wifi browsing, couple of hours of mp3 a day and my office has terrible signal. I generally finish the day on 40%+.
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Honestly now, if a person doesnt mind not having Sense why the hell would they buy an HTC? There are much more options on the market with superior hardware and many of them cheaper and as reliable as the Desire...

tryklon said:
Honestly now, if a person doesnt mind not having Sense why the hell would they buy an HTC? There are much more options on the market with superior hardware and many of them cheaper and as reliable as the Desire...
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Haha lol buy a phone like lg optimus or something

tryklon said:
Honestly now, if a person doesnt mind not having Sense why the hell would they buy an HTC? There are much more options on the market with superior hardware and many of them cheaper and as reliable as the Desire...
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Well, when the Desire came out at first it was the best Android device around.
Add to that Sense is the least bad of all the custom UIs out there.
And like me, they might not have tried an AOSP rom until after having a Desire for a while.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

JokerNJ said:
Well, when the Desire came out at first it was the best Android device around.
Add to that Sense is the least bad of all the custom UIs out there.
And like me, they might not have tried an AOSP rom until after having a Desire for a while.
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I agree with you.Word.

Leedroid 3.06 works very well as stock gingerbread with sense, i used it for a while with no issues. But.... my absolute favorite which has not given any issues is insertcoin 1.05 stock. it uses cm7 boot and ultra stable
regards
jamadant

JokerNJ said:
Well, when the Desire came out at first it was the best Android device around.
Add to that Sense is the least bad of all the custom UIs out there.
And like me, they might not have tried an AOSP rom until after having a Desire for a while.
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Spot on