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Hello everybody!
My question is simple.
Should i wait for the official Froyo for my HTC Desire, or should I usw a custom Rom from this Board?
I am very disappointed with the battery-time of my normal stock 2.1 rom...
My Desire just lasts for about one day with normal usage.
Is the battery-life going to be better with the official froyo (an with roms out of the section of rom-cooking in this board) ?
Would you recommend me to wait for the official Rom, or not?
Are there some reasons against an unofficial froyo-rom?
Wich rom you would recommend at the moment?
(dont need htc-sense...)
Thanks for you help, and sorry for bad english
If you haven't done so already, I'd recommend checking out "Juice Defender" in the Marketplace. You can fine tune your APN/WIFI settings and such to get much more out of your battery. Best of all it's free. If that doesn't satisfy your battery hungry needs then I suggest you stop listening to my advice as I know squat about custom Roms. What I do know though is that battery life is reported to be greatly improved in Froyo.
Even if you wait for official froyo, the devs here will make it better and add more features make it faster etc and you'll be back here in no time you can always unroot your phone of you change your mind.
the proper answer world be depends on how you use your phone, I too would suggest using "Juice Defender" if your battery needs are not met, however note that even if you w8 for the official froyo rom you will probably not notice a major power saving effect over the existing rom. In fact I doubt that you will notice any improvement in battery life whatsoever considering you seem to be a proper power user.
Some custom roms run less services/process so you will be able to save up some battery life, its the only proper way too cut down on power consumption I would imagine the closer to the vanilla system the better.
With HTC straight out lying about the release date for the update (as usual), yesterday I took the plunge and have moved over to DeFroST after rooting.
Based on my initial impressions, battery life has improved. Rooting opens up the possibility of using the brilliant application that is setCPU to very finely tune many battery consuming aspects of the device and should make 48hrs achievable without switching off push and sync. There's a thread in the dev section about this.
I would do it. DeFroST is a brilliant ROM, but there are plenty of gems in the Dev section
bedeabc said:
With HTC straight out lying about the release date for the update (as usual), yesterday I took the plunge and have moved over to DeFroST after rooting.
Based on my initial impressions, battery life has improved. Rooting opens up the possibility of using the brilliant application that is setCPU to very finely tune many battery consuming aspects of the device and should make 48hrs achievable without switching off push and sync. There's a thread in the dev section about this.
I would do it. DeFroST is a brilliant ROM, but there are plenty of gems in the Dev section
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I'm guessing you needed an unlock code to upgrade your radio since your on orange?
i flashed yesterday and , oh boy, what can i say - its great.
you root your phone with unrevoked, then flash a custom rom, then the new radio ( for froyo ). easy, peasy, painless. froyo kicks ass, i chose leedroid and its so speedy, an battery life has improved, altough not too much i think
@ bedeabc
When did HTC lie about the release date:???: the only official announcement I heard was 3rd quarter... there is still weeks/months to go yet. Any reply you see posted via some ones uncle who told my mother that apparently honest to god customer service said two weeks...is not 'official' lol.
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So, you guys think, that its not be worth, to wait for the official froyo?
There will not be some "new" things, i will miss in the froyo, I can get in den Dev-Area?
Cause i dont like it, to change the rom every 2 month ;-)
ATM I have a rooted desire with ocuv kernel.
Untouched radio.
Is the upgread "heavy"? (dangerour, time-expensive?)
Thanks for all of your Help
I just upgraded to Froyo, Android 2.2, yesterday.
Well i think i love it. Extra functions and the speed is incredible.
When rooting & new rom - do you lose HTC Sense?
Dave
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the defrost custom rom is awesome, it'ld go for it tbh
breytex said:
So, you guys think, that its not be worth, to wait for the official froyo?
There will not be some "new" things, i will miss in the froyo, I can get in den Dev-Area?
Cause i dont like it, to change the rom every 2 month ;-)
ATM I have a rooted desire with ocuv kernel.
Untouched radio.
Is the upgread "heavy"? (dangerour, time-expensive?)
Thanks for all of your Help
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Well me personal I'm waiting, if I had a branded phone I probably wouldn't wait as it'll be X amount of weeks after HTC release until you carrier release its version with bloatware.
I am obviously one of those easily satisfied people, I think its a great phone as is with just a few tweaks here and there (voice search, keyboard etc..) which didn't even require root
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When rooting & new rom - do you lose HTC Sense?
Dave
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depends on the new rom. If it has Sense you don't lose it Rooting doesn't concern Sense or anything else on interface
what's important for everyone who's considering to move on new froyo sense roms (2.06) - they're stable and fast, I'm using them for a week and haven't noticed one error or reboot.
You can try them out and then decide for yourself whether to return to eclair, or use them until htc releases official version. I'm certain you will choose second option
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I'm guessing you needed an unlock code to upgrade your radio since your on orange?
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you should check the radio thread in development subforum, last version of radio doesn't lock Orange phones...
I am looking for a stable 2.2 or 2.2.1 rom for my wifes g2. I have glanced at the development forum and it seems gingerbread is all the rage right now. My wife just needs a solid, dependable, daily driver. I just want to flash something for her that works and be done with it. The stock rom seems to have some bloat and I am hoping for better battery life as well.
What is the most popular rom at the moment? I rooted her phone (permanent s-off) so I am ready to go. Thanks in advance!
I would honestly suggest cm7. Or for the best sense rom, virtuous. You could just remove the bloat with Titanium backup from the stock rom.
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Thanks for the info. I will probably give virtuous a try.
Highly recommend virtuous' froyo offering until the dev releases the gingerbread version. I've been using it since I got my DZ and it's simply amazing how stable and fast it really is.
I actually flashed Virtuous this morning to see if it was any good and all I can say is it was laggy as a shaggy sheep. I flashed the whole thing through rom manager and did a full wipe so I don't know what the hell but it was insanely laggy. You could hit a button and wait well over a second for a response. Maybe I needed to flash a new kernel? Maybe I needed to run the update from .0 to .1? Who knows?! I found it aesthetically pleasing but that is about it. (Maybe it is because I have a g2 and it is for desire z?)
For stable daily drivers I've been using Cm6.1.1 for nearly a month. I found Cm7RC4 to have to many niggling issues like my camera locking up the phone every couple times I tried to use it. Let alone needing to use gps.
I hear good things about miui but I cannot speak from experience.
I've been using CM7 RC2 for a couple of weeks now without issue. It has been stable, improved battery life and performance.
I'd also suggest CM7. I've been using that ever since i rooted my phone, and havent had any problems with it so far.
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I actually flashed Virtuous this morning to see if it was any good and all I can say is it was laggy as a shaggy sheep. I flashed the whole thing through rom manager and did a full wipe so I don't know what the hell but it was insanely laggy.
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I have never flashed a rom through rom manager. Only really used it to get CWM installed. I prefer to get a rom going the old fashioned way and flash through recovery. Did a full wipe of data, battery, davlik then installed the rom on day one and has been running flawless ever since.
While CM7 is working good its not 100% stable yet. There are random reboots and freezes. I would say the most stable ROM at the moment is CM6.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841275 It's not Gingerbread but still everything works and there are no problems to report.
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I actually flashed Virtuous this morning to see if it was any good and all I can say is it was laggy as a shaggy sheep.
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Keep in mind that CyanogenMod is designed specifically to be *fast*. Virtuous is simply a port of the HTC Sense ROM. Also, keep in mind that Virtuous comes 'out of the box' with the regular HTC kernel - 800MHz, no changes. There are 2 additional kernels available: Standard - OC'd to 1GHz (highest you can go without changing voltage) and a built-in screen off profile. Does not support SetCPU or anything. Advanced is a full-blown open kernel - you can setup your own profiles, overclock (I think to 1.5GHz or so). I personally run Advanced to 1.2GHz with some other profiles, but if it was my wife's phone, I'd toss the Standard kernel in there and call it a day.
Also, Sense *does* add some bloat (it's an entirely new UI), but it's totally worth it, IMO (especially for a girl's phone). The improved visuals, extra features, etc make it totally worth it. If you're doing that much, go ahead and setup LauncherPro instead of the stock Sense launcher and she'll be rocking and rolling.
This is very helpful info everyone. I now have to decide between cm 6.1 and virtuous. Sounds like both of these roms are the set it and forget it variety which is what I was looking for. She is not a flashaholic like myself so one stable rom is all I need.
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I used to use virtuous but now I'm running sense ginger from team villain. Flawless IMHO. By far the best battery life I have ever had with normal use. Give it a shot. Also FYI you need to OC virtuous to run good.
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From experience... Virtuous
Nice and stable
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Also FYI you need to OC virtuous to run good.
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See that is the thing, I don't like the fact that I will have to overclock my phone to make Virtuous "run good". That is pretty damn silly in fact. I mean they package the kernel for stock speeds since it is based on the DZ stock rom. What about all those desireZ owners? They surely don't have to overclock to make their phones run without any lag. Why not package a kernel that is capable of overclocking to a reasonable speed out of the box like any one of the cyanogen releases?
I feel this is a tremendous oversight on the ROM developers part. I would love to rock their rom and get a good feel for Sense UI so all the people who come to me for advice on tech related matters can have my unbiased opinion on the UI, not what I had to go through to make it run without any lag. That is some Grade A bull****.
I suppose it would be less bull**** if I knew how to flash a kernel.
You flash it the same as a Rom except no wipe and it takes about 30 seconds. Also virtuous used to come stock with overclock but took many people were having issues with it. As in they don't know how to set up proper profiles with a setcpu type program. So the overlook kernels became an extra add-on for more advanced users.
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Virtuous is good with overclock. I found the untouched gingerbread sense ruu that rmk prepared to be a lot smoother. Bluetooth was a bit hit and miss though.
I'm on the saga ginger sense rom right now and no issues at all. Had to tweak some aesthetic things like font, but it's good.
Still haven't found a rom on the dz as good as Super D was on the G1 yet...
Man, Super D rocked...I'm getting all nostalgic. I'm gonna have to go visit my g1 soon (I sold it to my buddy) lol oh yeah...I'll visit my buddy too haha
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I actually flashed Virtuous this morning to see if it was any good and all I can say is it was laggy as a shaggy sheep. I flashed the whole thing through rom manager and did a full wipe so I don't know what the hell but it was insanely laggy. You could hit a button and wait well over a second for a response. Maybe I needed to flash a new kernel? Maybe I needed to run the update from .0 to .1? Who knows?! I found it aesthetically pleasing but that is about it. (Maybe it is because I have a g2 and it is for desire z?)
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Funny thing, I think the first 20 or so minutes on a new rom may not be representative. I flashed my wife's mt3g slide using the stock update, and it lagged BADLY for the first 20 min. Including a battery pull because the phone app (com.android.phone) went non responsive. Just my $0.02.
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I mess around with other roms, but I keep coming back to CM6.1.1. Virtuous is nice, but I'm not a fan of Sense UI.
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Ultimate Droid 3.2.5
This rom gives you plenty of options, is as stable as CM6.1 or more stable. Runs faster.
I do think it scores somewhat slower on the benchmarks, however in this users opinion it is much faster in scrolling, loading, and general usage.
You will have to google to find it, but give it a try. You can have lots of the sense elements or disable them if you want a more plan vanilla experience.
Also I did very much like cm6.1
Cm7 is coming along but still working out many bugs... see the changelog. Many will say this is stable enough for daily use.
I used to use virtuous, have since moved on to gingerbread ROMs though. When I was using virtuous it was brilliant. Fast and stable. It was not laggy like another user said. I used CWM recovery to flash it and did a full data/cache wipe beforehand and you should do whenever you change ROMs. Another vote for senses ease of use and virtuous' reliability!
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I have tried numerous custom 2.3 roms but each one eventually causes me a headache in the end. I honestly do appreciate all the hard work going into these roms but unless somebody can point me in the direction of a 99.9% troublefree 2.3 I will have to stick to 2.2 for the time being.
no, 2.3 is not officially out yet, i know the roll out time in the UK as at some point at the end of the year (after all the naff branding the carriers have to put on them)
end of this month (or sometime in the next few months) is the most proposed theory at the moment.
when the official 2.3 release/RUU etc. comes out that'll probably lead to a few more stable roms IMO
AdamG's Oxygen and his DevNull have both been 100% trouble free for me.. Tried one of those?
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AdamG's Oxygen and his DevNull have both been 100% trouble free for me.. Tried one of those?
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I agree, Oxygen is best Rom I've flashed
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I'm running CM7 and have no complaints whatsoever!! It's very customizable, has some great goodies and is very smooth and fast! And upgradable with no wipes!!
michaeljen said:
AdamG's Oxygen and his DevNull have both been 100% trouble free for me.. Tried one of those?
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How long have you been using it for if you don't mind me asking? Do all apps work well once installed? No freeze problems?
HasanCaliskan said:
I agree, Oxygen is best Rom I've flashed
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How long have you been using the rom if you don't mind me asking? It's just after a week or 2 I start getting problems with gingerbread roms.
Gingerbread update for Desire by the end of May
"Three, a carrier based in UK has responded to one of its customers saying that the Gingerbread update for Desire would arrive by the end of May on their carrier locked phones." If that's true we should have it here on xda soon
source: Finally! An ETA on HTC Desire Gingerbread Update
DesUKire said:
I have tried numerous custom 2.3 roms but each one eventually causes me a headache in the end. I honestly do appreciate all the hard work going into these roms but unless somebody can point me in the direction of a 99.9% troublefree 2.3 I will have to stick to 2.2 for the time being.
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Have you tried CM7? Pretty damn stable and fast, no problems on my Telus Desire.
DesUKire said:
I have tried numerous custom 2.3 roms but each one eventually causes me a headache in the end. I honestly do appreciate all the hard work going into these roms but unless somebody can point me in the direction of a 99.9% troublefree 2.3 I will have to stick to 2.2 for the time being.
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The popular stock android roms out right now are very stable and if you do happen to find a bug, there's usually aa update within the week to fix it.
I'm running ReflexS 2.0.7 and it's actually running very fast considering that it's running sense. I'm running it with cm7 hboot but it worked great with stock hboot too. I find that you really just have to try a few roms to try and get a feel for which one works best with your phone and your needs.
Seronez said:
"Three, a carrier based in UK has responded to one of its customers saying that the Gingerbread update for Desire would arrive by the end of May on their carrier locked phones." If that's true we should have it here on xda soon
source: Finally! An ETA on HTC Desire Gingerbread Update
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I wouldn't bet on the end of may.
They have always been mentioning end of month but june, not may.
Its about time for the update to come out we waited so long now and all other models have gotten just do it already im sick of waiting.
Honestly, if you don't mind losing Sense, then AdamG's Oxygen and Devnull are top of the shop. Both updated now to 2.3.4 and as hack-free as possible.
DevNull is as plain-jane as you can get, I personally prefer the extended power controls and pull-down notifications menu on Oxygen.
I've been using Oxygen since the first 2.3 build (since end of February) and have had one restart in that time and no freezes.
I have it running with LauncherPro 0.86 and it is smooth, bug-free and has very good battery over Froyo stock. I hammer it with wifi browsing, couple of hours of mp3 a day and my office has terrible signal. I generally finish the day on 40%+.
JokerNJ said:
Honestly, if you don't mind losing Sense, then AdamG's Oxygen and Devnull are top of the shop. Both updated now to 2.3.4 and as hack-free as possible.
DevNull is as plain-jane as you can get, I personally prefer the extended power controls and pull-down notifications menu on Oxygen.
I've been using Oxygen since the first 2.3 build (since end of February) and have had one restart in that time and no freezes.
I have it running with LauncherPro 0.86 and it is smooth, bug-free and has very good battery over Froyo stock. I hammer it with wifi browsing, couple of hours of mp3 a day and my office has terrible signal. I generally finish the day on 40%+.
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Honestly now, if a person doesnt mind not having Sense why the hell would they buy an HTC? There are much more options on the market with superior hardware and many of them cheaper and as reliable as the Desire...
tryklon said:
Honestly now, if a person doesnt mind not having Sense why the hell would they buy an HTC? There are much more options on the market with superior hardware and many of them cheaper and as reliable as the Desire...
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Haha lol buy a phone like lg optimus or something
tryklon said:
Honestly now, if a person doesnt mind not having Sense why the hell would they buy an HTC? There are much more options on the market with superior hardware and many of them cheaper and as reliable as the Desire...
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Well, when the Desire came out at first it was the best Android device around.
Add to that Sense is the least bad of all the custom UIs out there.
And like me, they might not have tried an AOSP rom until after having a Desire for a while.
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JokerNJ said:
Well, when the Desire came out at first it was the best Android device around.
Add to that Sense is the least bad of all the custom UIs out there.
And like me, they might not have tried an AOSP rom until after having a Desire for a while.
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I agree with you.Word.
Leedroid 3.06 works very well as stock gingerbread with sense, i used it for a while with no issues. But.... my absolute favorite which has not given any issues is insertcoin 1.05 stock. it uses cm7 boot and ultra stable
regards
jamadant
JokerNJ said:
Well, when the Desire came out at first it was the best Android device around.
Add to that Sense is the least bad of all the custom UIs out there.
And like me, they might not have tried an AOSP rom until after having a Desire for a while.
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Spot on
I just bought the SGS2, and my girlfriend is getting my old HTC Desire.
She tried it for a week, with Oxygen ROM and while generally happy with it, she was underwhelmed and annoyed with a few of the more obvious warts of stock android 2.3. The crappy dialer and the crappy keyboard, to name a few.
I then installed a lot of GO apps on it, GO Launcher EX, GO Dialer, GO Widget etc.
While these are in some respects better, they have other issues.
I am now considering if a ROM with Sense would be a good compromise for her. I will not give her the latest stock 2.2 ROM from HTC, I want her to have 2.3. So it would have to be a 2.3 ROM with Sense on it. And I don't even know which version of Sense. I have only really worked with the one in the stock 2.2 ROM from HTC. I think it is Sense 1.9?
So, can you guys recommend a 2.3 ROM with Sense or a 2.3 ROM and some good core apps (dialer, keyboard, sms/texting etc.) that is girlfriend-friendly?
Thanks in advance
I'd recommend one with the Sense 3.0.
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So, can you guys recommend a 2.3 ROM with Sense or a 2.3 ROM and some good core apps (dialer, keyboard, sms/texting etc.) that is girlfriend-friendly?
Thanks in advance
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Did you try leedroid's Rom?
Also here is a list of some cool HTC desire Roms With and w/o sense.
hxxp://alchemistar.blogspot.com/2010/10/htc-desire-custom-roms-list-100910.html
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kkoolpatz said:
Did you try leedroid's Rom?
Also here is a list of some cool HTC desire Roms With and w/o sense.
hxxp://alchemistar.blogspot.com/2010/10/htc-desire-custom-roms-list-100910.html
(change hxxp to http in the above link)
If you like one of these OS's, hit the thanks button
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why you pointing to external link when we have a development section full of nice a great ROMs?
I would recommend a ROM with Sense 2.1/3.0 (Hybrid) because the Sense 3.5/3.0 ROMs are a bit too much sometimes for the Desire as I read and heard (in case of lags and so).
But Runnymede is recommended very often.
So I would go with Revolution or InsertCoin which I self am using since a few months and i'm quite happy with it.
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I would recommend a ROM with Sense 2.1/3.0 (Hybrid) because the Sense 3.5 ROMs are a bit too much sometimes for the Desire as I read and heard (in case of lags and so).
But Runnymede is recommended very often.
So I would go with Revolution or InsertCoin which I self am using since a few months and i'm quite happy with it.
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+1 for revolution. It's the most stable and lag free sense rom I have ever used. I also think a sense rom is more useful for your gf than a stock Android one. You should definitely let her try revolution
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+1 for revolution. It's the most stable and lag free sense rom I have ever used. I also think a sense rom is more useful for your gf than a stock Android one. You should definitely let her try revolution
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this is also my opinion. my girlfrind is verry happy with the sense gui and InsertCoin rom...
Ok, so Revolution or InsertCoin?
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Ok, so Revolution or InsertCoin?
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Definitely revolution.
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I would say try both
Why do all threads where people ask recommendations for third party turn out Sense 3.5 and hybrid abomination commercials?
Run either a ruu or flash her a rooted stock rom unless you have an ambition in becoming a mobile phone user support for ungrateful girlfriends.
Or simply buy her an iphone as I did for mine.
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Or simply buy her an iphone as I did for mine.
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You'll probably get laid more often as an added bonus because of it.
@erklat
And I really dont get the point why you always have to bash the other Roms except Supernova's. Supernovas Rom sure is great but there also other good ROMs (even with Sense 3.0/3.5). They are maybe that not stable and so on but the Users also have different preferences. For some eye-candy is the most important feature, for other it is stability and speed.
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@erklat
And I really dont get the point why you always have to bash the other Roms except Supernova's. Supernovas Rom sure is great but there also other good ROMs (even with Sense 3.0/3.5). They are maybe that not stable and so on but the Users also have different preferences. For some eye-candy is the most important feature, for other it is stability and speed.
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Not that I don't bash just supernova, I don't bash either of the Sense 1.9 roms, aosp roms, or even roms which are broken and are advertised as such.
And I have no beef with roms or their developers, but with idiots that turn every rom recommendation thread into this. OK, you're free to do whatever you want, but you can't come and write "Sense 3.5/ICS :drool:, this, this, this and this doesn't work, but it's perfect".
As far as I'm concerned, the scale goes like this: unusable - bad - average - good - perfect. I hope meaning of perfect is self explanatory?
If the op states that he is giving away his phone, Sense 3.5 roms don't have nothing to look for here. Giving away phone with some of it's features severely limited is insanity.
It is you Sense 3.5 users who mixed up priorities here, not I. If the thread was titled "most eyecandy" rom I'd be silent.
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You'll probably get laid more often as an added bonus because of it.
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I devised a few fail safe mechanisms to secure myself from that event. Namely, getting dead drunk on her birthday after work works best
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erklat said:
Or simply buy her an iphone as I did for mine.
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I did the same and she is so happy... IPhone is the best smartphone for girls. That's for sure.
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I did the same and she is so happy... IPhone is the best smartphone for girls. That's for sure.
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This, they don't know what Android or Desire is, and ultimately they don't care. But they will never make a mistake recognizing an iPhone and a BMW keys.
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@erklat
And I have no beef with roms or their developers, but with idiots that turn every rom recommendation thread into this. OK, you're free to do whatever you want, but you can't come and write "Sense 3.5/ICS :drool:, this, this, this and this doesn't work, but it's perfect".
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I wasn't giving the OP a recommendation for a Sense 3.0/3.5-ROM, I was recommending him a Hybrid (2.1/3.0). And this I can do with pure conscience because the ROM I'm using right now (InsertCoin) is way faster than the Stock-ROM that was originally on the Desire and i havent experienced anything thats not working yet (no reboots, no failures, ... everything is working fine).
Yeah, maybe the Sense-ROMs you are not bashing are a bit faster than the ISC and Revolution Hybrids but there you have an uglier ui, so you have to balance.
Maybe you should testing a Hybrid for yourself because now you are just assuming things.
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Why do all threads where people ask recommendations for third party turn out Sense 3.5 and hybrid abomination commercials?
Run either a ruu or flash her a rooted stock rom unless you have an ambition in becoming a mobile phone user support for ungrateful girlfriends.
Or simply buy her an iphone as I did for mine.
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I want her to have 2.3, and there is no good official 2.3 ROM from HTC. So I guess I might as well try a girlfriend-friendly 2.3 ROM, preferably one that "just works" and that I don't have to help her with a million times. If you can recommend such a ROM, it would be great.
I agree with you that eye candy is not the most important thing here. Usability and stability is. Unfortunately, stock android have usability issues with simple things such as the dialer and the keyboard. And Android 2.3 is a must.
I will never buy her an iPhone, so that's not an option.
What do you recommend?
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Maybe you should testing a Hybrid for yourself because now you are just assuming things.
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That is a very bold statement to make when talking with someone with 217,71 times your post count here
I did that, when they were popular, IC was on my phone for a whole 15 minutes before restoring nandroid backup of my AuraXTremeGinger I used at that time. You can feel when it was placed in past. To be honest, I didn't get to the post where you recommended anything. It was enough for one which spends as much time as me reading these threads to read a couple of the first ones and catch the drift of where is it going. After that I just scroll real fast through the thread. No Stock rom recommendations? Check. Commence bashing.
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I want her to have 2.3, and there is no good official 2.3 ROM from HTC.
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Who told you that? You have the one in my sig, baadnwz made his rooted stock GB rom and teppic74 has his.
Hey there guys, I've been using XDA-Developers for a long time, it certainly is the #1 source of info for us android users and modders. Finally registered myself in the hopes I can get some help with an issue I'm having atm. While using Google Goggles 1.8.1 in Snapshot mode the camera will be all messed up showing a greenish deformed image, as a matter of fact looks like a thermal camera or something similar. If I press the button to take the snapshot, strangely it works fine, if I go into continuous mode it doesn't have the same problem, works fine.
I'm using the Beta 14 of Cyanogenmod 9.
The camera application works perfectly, just google goggles is messed up for some reason.
Anybody ever seen this problem? Thanks in advance.
switch to a gingerbread rom and your problem will be gone
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demkantor said:
switch to a gingerbread rom and your problem will be gone
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Hi, thanks for the fast response. I'll certainly try that, did you have that experience too or is it just a guess since I'm using a Beta ROM? Thanks again.
there isnt and may never be an official ics rom for the vision, this means the developers have not had the proper drivers for the camera so it is hacked together on all ics roms. these roms have come a long way over the past six months or so but any app using the camera may never work 100%
the best ics roms for the g2/dz (in my opinion) are elitemod and mimicry, you can try one of those and see if google goggles works fine or just move down to 2.3x
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there isnt and may never be an official ics rom for the vision, this means the developers have not had the proper drivers for the camera so it is hacked together on all ics roms. these roms have come a long way over the past six months or so but any app using the camera may never work 100%
the best ics roms for the g2/dz (in my opinion) are elitemod and mimicry, you can try one of those and see if google goggles works fine or just move down to 2.3x
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I hope that's not 100% accurate, cause I don't see why the G2/DZ couldn't have an official ICS release, I mean, it's hardware can support it perfectly so what would be the reason? Anyway, I'll revert later to 2.3x and see how Google Goggles handles, but even if it works fine I'll get back to the latest beta of Cyanogenmod 9, everything's been working perfectly so far, aside from this Google Goggles problem, and if it never gets solved I can still live with that, I usually don't even use it, just wondered why it wasn't working as it should. But thanks for the info so far.
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I hope that's not 100% accurate, cause I don't see why the G2/DZ couldn't have an official ICS release, I mean, it's hardware can support it perfectly so what would be the reason? Anyway, I'll revert later to 2.3x and see how Google Goggles handles, but even if it works fine I'll get back to the latest beta of Cyanogenmod 9, everything's been working perfectly so far, aside from this Google Goggles problem, and if it never gets solved I can still live with that, I usually don't even use it, just wondered why it wasn't working as it should. But thanks for the info so far.
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it is sad but true, there may be loads of reasons for no official update but the main one may simply be htc has decided they want us to move to a newer phone, even if hardware supports the latest firmware they will must feel if they keep supporting old phones people will not buy their new ones. even if this is an incorrect assumption the g2/dz (in my opinion) still is the best phone to date so I wouldn't update anyhow.
like I said have fun with gingerbread for a while and then consider elitemod ics or mimicry, those are the only two ics roms that I like. but right now I'm back to cm7 for a while, I too like a working camera, and by working I mean to the quality gingerbread cameras work on the vision.
oh and I like your name
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it is sad but true, there may be loads of reasons for no official update but the main one may simply be htc has decided they want us to move to a newer phone, even if hardware supports the latest firmware they will must feel if they keep supporting old phones people will not buy their new ones. even if this is an incorrect assumption the g2/dz (in my opinion) still is the best phone to date so I wouldn't update anyhow.
like I said have fun with gingerbread for a while and then consider elitemod ics or mimicry, those are the only two ics roms that I like. but right now I'm back to cm7 for a while, I too like a working camera, and by working I mean to the quality gingerbread cameras work on the vision.
oh and I like your name
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You're right, and I totally agree, I won't update my G2/DZ anytime soon, it still serves me more than well and I love the physical keyboard. Some people don't care about it, but I like to run some emulators, genesis, snes and the likes and to play using the physical keyboard instead of touching the screen is a whole different world. Also, I don't see the point of having a big screen latest smartphone when you lose like half the screen when you have to type cause of the virtual keyboard. Who knows, if HTC ever releases in the future a Desire Z 2 maintaining everything that's great about the G2/DZ but upgrading to the latest hardware, I might buy it. Oh, and thanks for the compliment.
have a friend with the same name is all, have fun flashing new roms!
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it is sad but true, there may be loads of reasons for no official update but the main one may simply be htc has decided they want us to move to a newer phone, even if hardware supports the latest firmware they will must feel if they keep supporting old phones people will not buy their new ones.
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QFT
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demkantor said:
have a friend with the same name is all, have fun flashing new roms!
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Same name and same surname? Wow, never seen another one like me lol. Thanks, I always do, love to mod my phone, just bought a new 1800mAh Mugen Power Battery for it, changed the xeon led for a new one (original went faulty) and now I'm just waiting for my new Zagg InvisibleSHIELD replacement and new rubberized cover. =] Hey, do you run your G2/DZ overclocked? I'm running right now at 1.5GMhz max and the original 800Mhz minimum using the SmartAssV2 Governor. The battery life on ICS is WAAAAAAY better than it was with Ginger.
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I hope that's not 100% accurate, cause I don't see why the G2/DZ couldn't have an official ICS release, I mean, it's hardware can support it perfectly so what would be the reason? Anyway, I'll revert later to 2.3x and see how Google Goggles handles, but even if it works fine I'll get back to the latest beta of Cyanogenmod 9, everything's been working perfectly so far, aside from this Google Goggles problem, and if it never gets solved I can still live with that, I usually don't even use it, just wondered why it wasn't working as it should. But thanks for the info so far.
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Marketing, it's old enough to the point that it's more economically feasible without as much *****yness from consumers to not bother providing drivers/etc for it when consumers can just buy a brand new model to get ICS.
I'm in the same boat though, my camera is 'functional' I can see the screen just fine and can take a picture, it just not as feature-packed or as high quality as it was with gingerbread.
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Marketing, it's old enough to the point that it's more economically feasible without as much *****yness from consumers to not bother providing drivers/etc for it when consumers can just buy a brand new model to get ICS.
I'm in the same boat though, my camera is 'functional' I can see the screen just fine and can take a picture, it just not as feature-packed or as high quality as it was with gingerbread.
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Exactly, but even so the Pros of running ICS on the G2/DZ easily surpass the Cons. I for one can say my battery life at least doubled, and the system runs way more smoothly than it used to with Gingerbread. I guess now we can only hope that those great guys at the development teams can come up with solutions for everything, who knows? Maybe a newer model from HTC with ICS has a camera driver compatible with the G2/DZ. Until then I'll keep experimenting with the Betas till I find the best solution.
Dimitri Vladkov said:
Exactly, but even so the Pros of running ICS on the G2/DZ easily surpass the Cons. I for one can say my battery life at least doubled, and the system runs way more smoothly than it used to with Gingerbread. I guess now we can only hope that those great guys at the development teams can come up with solutions for everything, who knows? Maybe a newer model from HTC with ICS has a camera driver compatible with the G2/DZ. Until then I'll keep experimenting with the Betas till I find the best solution.
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well in regards to battery life and other performance benefits you can mainly thank the Rom creators for that. I've no doubt that if you tried to use a pretty much 'stock' configuration of ICS the battery life would be much worse and performance wouldn't seem quite a nice. Most of the benefits I enjoy in my current ICS rom is primarily credited to the rom's creator as he did quite a number on optimizing it specifically for the G2/Vision.