I see a lot of rom threads that say you MUST update your radio to use the rom. Doing a search I also saw a lot of posts saying you can't flash radios if you used unrevoked to root your Evo. So what does this mean for those of us that used the 2.2 root guide which uses unrevoked? Do I really HAVE to update my radio to use these roms? Since I used the 2.2 guide would it be safe to unroot and then root with simple root so I can flash a new radio? Or should I just not worry about it and flash away?
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Wow nothing? I tried flashing the new radio and it doesn't work. Gets aborted by clockwork. Does anyone have an answer? I've searched here and ppcgeeks and found nothing.
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You can flash radios if you are s-off.
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i have rooted 3 different devices using the 2.2 method, and from what i can tell, you dont *need* to flash a radio. if you do part 2 of the method, it basically loads a 2.2 rom that has Super User enabled. Im no dev, but from what i can tell, flashing the radios have to be done in 2.2 because the way the 2.2 software communicates with the radios (cell and wimax) differently, so the radio has to be updated to handle this change. using part 2 puts your radio back to the 2.15.***whatever Official sprint radios.
flashing the radios are basically for anyone coming from a 2.1 rom who hasnt been updated already.
just idle speculation....can someone else confirm this for me?
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You can flash radios if you are s-off.
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I thought using unrevoked forever put you at s-off. Do you know where I can check this? Didn't see it anywhere in clockwork recovery.
@newbie: I followed part 2 and still have 2. 05 radio. Think I should go back and flash a stock 2. 2 again to try and get the radio flashed?
Thanks for the help guys, far different from the winmo and webos hacking I'm used to.
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You can check A-off by turning your phone off... then hit and hold the volume down button and hit and hold the power button still holding the volume down button.. brings you to the recovery. On top shows s-off s-on.. unrevoked forever completesbthe full root and nand.
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I have notice coming doing the downgrade to 2.1 and putting any new Rom I have way better download and up speed.. I use to get max 40 kilobytes now same area I get 125.. where is usually get 125 I get double that and even hit 1.2 mbps. I'm happy and didn't do any radio updates like they said to do..
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Wow totally forgot about the hboot screen. Ok so I confirmed I am s-off. So why is it that clockwork won't flash a new radio or wimax?
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Any help with this? I can flash all the roms I want but I can't flash the updated radio or wimax. Can't find anything to help on here, ppcgeeks or android central. Can someone else who used the 2.2 root method and used unrevoked3 and unrevoked forever chip in on weather or not they can flash the radio?
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Any help with this? I can flash all the roms I want but I can't flash the updated radio or wimax. Can't find anything to help on here, ppcgeeks or android central. Can someone else who used the 2.2 root method and used unrevoked3 and unrevoked forever chip in on weather or not they can flash the radio?
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I read up above that you are using clockwork, right? You need to use amon-ra recovery I believe to flash the radios...have you tried amon ra?
i flashed both with clockwork, when i flashed a rom i did do both the radio and wimax, don't think i even bothered to check to see if i was already up to date, but did it anyways just to be safe, had no issue with clockwork.
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I read up above that you are using clockwork, right? You need to use amon-ra recovery I believe to flash the radios...have you tried amon ra?
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No I haven't tried amon-ra yet, I'm going to do that next. THANKS!
@Tohm, did you boot into recovery or use rom manager? I get the same result with both
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I read up above that you are using clockwork, right? You need to use amon-ra recovery I believe to flash the radios...have you tried amon ra?
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THANKS! Amon-ra recovery flashed the radio successfully
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No I haven't tried amon-ra yet, I'm going to do that next. THANKS!
@Tohm, did you boot into recovery or use rom manager? I get the same result with both
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i normally just boot into recovery, i've only used rom manager once for flashing burnt droid rom, nothing else yet.
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Hello everyone,
I just got my Droid Incredible and have rooted it using Unrevoked3. I'm really enjoying it, but I have a few questions:
Am I correct in thinking that rooting consists entirely of getting su and Superuser.apk on the phone, and the hard part is setuiding and chmodding them?
What exactly is meant by "radio" in "flash a new radio"?
Why is it necessary to flash the stock recovery before applying an OTA update? Shouldn't ClockworkMod be able to do anything the stock recovery can?
(Somewhat related to the previous question) What would happen if one accepted an OTA without unrooting or applying the stock recovery?
Thank you all and sorry for my noobishness.
1. It also consists of replacing the stock recovery with Clockwork. It's ridiculously simple thanks to the unrevoked tool.
2. Radio = Baseband.
3. No, Clockwork cannot currently flash the radio.
4. I doubt anyone could answer for sure until it comes out
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Hello everyone,
I just got my Droid Incredible and have rooted it using Unrevoked3. I'm really enjoying it, but I have a few questions:
Am I correct in thinking that rooting consists entirely of getting su and Superuser.apk on the phone, and the hard part is setuiding and chmodding them?
What exactly is meant by "radio" in "flash a new radio"?
Why is it necessary to flash the stock recovery before applying an OTA update? Shouldn't ClockworkMod be able to do anything the stock recovery can?
(Somewhat related to the previous question) What would happen if one accepted an OTA without unrooting or applying the stock recovery?
Thank you all and sorry for my noobishness.
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1 yes
2 the radio is the thing that gets the signals
3 clockwork can't flash radios
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Thanks for the quick responses.
I'm not trying to criticize Clockwork in any way here, but why can't it flash the radio? Does it need the NAND to be unlocked, and if so, would it be possible to use Unrevoked to put on a new radio?
tchebb said:
Thanks for the quick responses.
I'm not trying to criticize Clockwork in any way here, but why can't it flash the radio? Does it need the NAND to be unlocked, and if so, would it be possible to use Unrevoked to put on a new radio?
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No, koush just didnt put it in for whatever reason.
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No, koush just didnt put it in for whatever reason.
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Thanks for the clarification. Are there currently no other suitable recoveries for the Incredible that can flash the radio?
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Thanks for the clarification. Are there currently no other suitable recoveries for the Incredible that can flash the radio?
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No. I tried amonra from the desire, and i nearly broke my recovery.
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One more question: what does PB31IMG.zip do? Is it just the stock recovery, or does it return everything back to stock?
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One more question: what does PB31IMG.zip do? Is it just the stock recovery, or does it return everything back to stock?
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Yes everything back to stock... if you have upgraded the radio you might get an error sayin something like main version its older.
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tchebb said:
Hello everyone,
I just got my Droid Incredible and have rooted it using Unrevoked3. I'm really enjoying it, but I have a few questions:
Am I correct in thinking that rooting consists entirely of getting su and Superuser.apk on the phone, and the hard part is setuiding and chmodding them?
What exactly is meant by "radio" in "flash a new radio"?
Why is it necessary to flash the stock recovery before applying an OTA update? Shouldn't ClockworkMod be able to do anything the stock recovery can?
(Somewhat related to the previous question) What would happen if one accepted an OTA without unrooting or applying the stock recovery?
Thank you all and sorry for my noobishness.
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1. Root consists of getting the MOST access to the device so things that we're normally out of our privilege range can be accessed... i.e. flashlight/titanium back up etc. It also pushes busybox su and the custom recovery to make ADB easier.
2. Think of the radio as the bios on your PC....very important...mess with it and you can EASILY break your machine of choice.
3. The reason I am sure Koush left radio flashability out is because of the ridiculous amount of noobs that would simply destroy their device by being curious/not reading the giant red letters in most posts/just not paying attention to what they are doing. It is VERY easy to brick a device with access to flashing the radio...dangerous and probably a fail safe to keep as many bricks down as possible.
4. What would probably happen with the OTA is you will either A. Loose root and be completely stock WITH NO WAY of downgrading to gain root. B. Brick Brick Brick. C. Profit? D. It might not let you even continue with the installation because of the custom recovery...not sure though because it hasn't happened yet....just DO NOT ACCEPT ANY OTA REQUESTS.
The PB image is the only way to downgrade back to stock. Completely stock. Out of the box stock. No root...no nothing! BUT it reopens the unrevoked exploits so you can reroot and also allows you to flash the OTA is your version is older...some tricks need to be taken though to get your version older then the ota.
The OTA is said to patch the exploit to RUU to stock. That means no mores roots if you OTA. Wait it out...when it drops it will be rooted and ready for the flashness.
The Phone is prompting me to upgrade to 1.47...I'm holding off. Which version should I root?
I had a question / thought about that too...but I didn't get that upgrade notification, is your phone rooted already?
Root the current version THEN update using a ROOTED rom from here DO NOT DO THE OVER THE AIR UPDATE
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The Phone is prompting me to upgrade to 1.47...I'm holding off. Which version should I root?
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Root 1.32. It's much, much easier to accomplish.
stang doug, this route is the best..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
It still puts ya at 2.1.. But really is solid.
This us a replacement phone....I was upgrading to a custom 2.2 from available and the phone bricked. I was lucky to get another one today. Just want to be carefully this time!
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Yes. Take the 47 ota so that your wimax updates correctly.
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Ok I did the update to 1.47...went smooth....I rooted from 1.47 before with no problem...one step at a time I guess...still can't believe I bricked the last one...ok so what's the best/easiest root method now with nand unlock? I fumbled my through it the first time...just want to make sure I know exactly what I'm doing this time.
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Sorry for my spelling before...I was trying to install avas official 2.2 and the phone bricked while installing the radio upgrade....was doing everything step by step too......
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Update: I rooted using Unrevoked 3, have clockwork mod recovery installed and just made a backup using nandroid. Am I basically ready to flash a custom ROM? Do I need to upgrade the radios first if going to 2.2?
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Update: I rooted using Unrevoked 3, have clockwork mod recovery installed and just made a backup using nandroid. Am I basically ready to flash a custom ROM? Do I need to upgrade the radios first if going to 2.2?
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Install the old hboot. If that doesn't make sense, get the simpleroot app and use that.
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I had trouble with Simpleroot. If i stick with this hboot version, will I have problems? Also I just succsesfully installed the latest Wimax and radio updates.
Follow a post in this forum that describes full root with nand unlocking using a more manual method.
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I did, but kept getting main version older while trying to update PC36IMG. Maybee I'm SOL. Should I not bother to download and flash custom roms?
I tried 3 root methods last night and I could only get unrevoked3 to work.
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Root 1.32. It's much, much easier to accomplish.
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Not anymore.
netarchy said:
Part 1:
Code:
adb shell rm /data/local/rights/mid.txt
adb shell ln -s /dev/mtd/mtd1 /data/local/rights/mid.txt
adb reboot
Part 2:
Toast's Part 2, for nand unlock
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Just got simplerrot to work!!! So it reset my softwre to a earlier version, and flashed clockmod recovery. Question is do I need to reflash the wimax update? I allready am running the latest radio version. Don't want to brick this time!
Oh my bad. Looks like the radio and wimax reverted to earlier versions....is it ok to update thm to the current release? Still running the stock rom.
ok, dosen't look like I have root access...but I have access to nandroid?
Well I don't know if this is right but I used Simpleroot to revert the software and get the older version of HBOOT and used unrevoked to get root permission. Looks like rooted apps work, I can back and recover with nandroid, maybe some one can chime in to make sure I'm on the right track, still need to know if it's safe to upgrade the radio and wimax.
So here's where I sit:
baseband:1.36.00.04.02
Software: 1.17.651.1
PRI:1.34_.3
PRL:60662
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I haven't seen anyone else get this problem I rooted my evo using the 2.2 rooting method and then I flashed the newest clockwork mod recovery using rom manager but every time I try to flash something i
get an error message how do I fix this? Did I do something wrong?
No idea, but I've read a lot of people having trouble with Clockwork. Might wanna try flashing Ra
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No idea, but I've read a lot of people having trouble with Clockwork. Might wanna try flashing Ra
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Thanks but how would I flash ra?
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No idea, but I've read a lot of people having trouble with Clockwork. Might wanna try flashing Ra
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No ra doesn't work either it keeps giving me this error " assert failed: getprop(" ro.bootloader") == "0.76.2000
The Froyo root method puts you back on 2.1 and uses Unrevoked to root. It then has you flash Unrevoked Forever to unlock hboot. Seems to me you are limited to half root 2.1 until regaw releases a further tutorial. The error is asking for the ENG bootloader which you wont have until NAND is unlocked. Seems to me you are limited to half root 2.1 until regaw releases a further tutorial. With half root you'll be limited to what you can flash. I'm sure you'll be able to fully root and upgrade to 2.2 soon. Hope this helps.
[EDIT] It appears once you've completed the tutorial you can use previous 2.1 root methods such as Toast's part 2 or simpleroot. Then you'd be free to flash away without issue cuz you'll then have the ENG bootloader.
I have flashed the newest Radio/Wimax and it doesn't take? After the flash it says to install reboot from the recovery menu. I do that, it starts to reboot, goes right back into recovery. It says formating CACHE..... at the bottom, but does nothing (I waited for 20 minutes). When I reboot, and check the radio, I'm still on 2.15.00.09.01. any suggestions?
Go over to Calk's post in development and download the previous versions and flash it/them....this should help you!
Updating the radio can, more often than not, be more trouble than its worth.....let me know if you need more help
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Vandelay007 said:
Go over to Calk's post in development and download the previous versions and flash it/them....this should help you!
Updating the radio can, more often than not, be more trouble than its worth.....let me know if you need more help
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sorry, same result, I tried to go back to 2.15.00.07.28, it looks like I'm stuck on this radio. maybe it's more trouble than its worth like you said.
You may want to check this thread out....if you haven't yet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
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You may want to check this thread out....if you haven't yet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
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ya, that's actually where I downloaded from.
just for anyone's future info with the same problem, I figured out my particular problem. I changed from RA to Clockwork Recovery. Don't know why but that did the trick. I'll probably go back to RA for wiping reasons though.
Hey guys,
I used the AlpharevX Windows beta to S-OFF my Inc 2, then rooted using CWM (still on stock rom). I can see the OTA, and can download it, but it won't install.
The progress bar gets about 1/3 the way full then comes up with the triangle with the !.
I've tried it two or three times, did factory reset, have no idea what to do. Do I have to S-ON for it to install? If so, how exactly do I do that?
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Hey guys,
I used the AlpharevX Windows beta to S-OFF my Inc 2, then rooted using CWM (still on stock rom). I can see the OTA, and can download it, but it won't install.
The progress bar gets about 1/3 the way full then comes up with the triangle with the !.
I've tried it two or three times, did factory reset, have no idea what to do. Do I have to S-ON for it to install? If so, how exactly do I do that?
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First, you cannot install an OTA when you have a custom recovery such as CWM installed. You at least need to install the original recovery image for your particular ROM before you try again.
Since the OTA in now available and official, why don't you just wait a few hours and someone will have a fully rooted version of the ROM that you can flash using CWM and not worry about losing S-OFF?
Let me give you a fair warning though, I'm not positive how Alpha set up their root, as I used XTC. BUT I know if you install the OTA with replacing CWM with regular recovery, you MAY be turned back to S-ON WITHOUT an option to get root back, UNLESS using the XTC clip. Enjoy.
Okay, I was afraid of that. I'm used to not even being able to see OTA's at all with CWM (came from Droid X), so it kind of threw me off.
Do you have any idea if the OTA is really any different from the leaked Inc S GB rom that's floating around? If, for some reason, it takes forever to get the ota rooted and they're not that different I may just install the leaked one I have.
Not trying to be a pain, just curious.
Thanks,
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parkwoodsuks said:
Okay, I was afraid of that. I'm used to not even being able to see OTA's at all with CWM (came from Droid X), so it kind of threw me off.
Do you have any idea if the OTA is really any different from the leaked Inc S GB rom that's floating around? If, for some reason, it takes forever to get the ota rooted and they're not that different I may just install the leaked one I have.
Not trying to be a pain, just curious.
Thanks,
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Check the Dev section. It looks like there is already a rooted, debloated version available.
I just created a PG32IMG.zip containing. Android-info text file and CWM recovery img renamed to recovery.img and placed it on root of sdcard
Booted into hboot and flashed it ...
Then I replaced the recovery with the stock recovery from the froyo ruu and flashed the stock recovery back....
Then flashed right back to CWM..
Never used any commands via windows or linux
I am going to install the ota and try to go back to cwm recovery and see what I can do from there.
I'll keep you guys informed
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This way we will know if the s-off is similar to.unrevoked for the incredible 1. I could do this all day long with theirs.
One way to find out right.
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I just created a PG32IMG.zip containing. Android-info text file and CWM recovery img renamed to recovery.img and placed it on root of sdcard
Booted into hboot and flashed it ...
Then I replaced the recovery with the stock recovery from the froyo ruu and flashed the stock recovery back....
Then flashed right back to CWM..
Never used any commands via windows or linux
I am going to install the ota and try to go back to cwm recovery and see what I can do from there.
I'll keep you guys informed
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You will recieve the OTA update and get Gingerbread. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED BY MANY that you will NOT be able to -reroot. if you can that's because of the hboot alpha gave you. but if it changes ur hboot you need XTC clip to re-root. RMK already posted a ROOTED ROM of the current OTA. SAME THING, why chance root for OTA. THEY ARE THE EXACT SAME FILES. BUT WITH ROOT! just use his ROM. my 2 cents. do as you please
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Hey, Instead of Don't do this, do that, do this, don't update that, If you want the release and don't want to lose root, install from this link. This guy(rmk40) spent some time to get this out to us. Awesome work! You won't lose root, everything works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161411
Be sure to "Thanks" him for this
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Looking at the zip it appears theirs reflashes hboot, which will break s off as far as i know.
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I got RMK's rooted rom and it's awesome. Thanks for the help guys.
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