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A few questions

Hello everyone,
I just got my Droid Incredible and have rooted it using Unrevoked3. I'm really enjoying it, but I have a few questions:
Am I correct in thinking that rooting consists entirely of getting su and Superuser.apk on the phone, and the hard part is setuiding and chmodding them?
What exactly is meant by "radio" in "flash a new radio"?
Why is it necessary to flash the stock recovery before applying an OTA update? Shouldn't ClockworkMod be able to do anything the stock recovery can?
(Somewhat related to the previous question) What would happen if one accepted an OTA without unrooting or applying the stock recovery?
Thank you all and sorry for my noobishness.

1. It also consists of replacing the stock recovery with Clockwork. It's ridiculously simple thanks to the unrevoked tool.
2. Radio = Baseband.
3. No, Clockwork cannot currently flash the radio.
4. I doubt anyone could answer for sure until it comes out

tchebb said:
Hello everyone,
I just got my Droid Incredible and have rooted it using Unrevoked3. I'm really enjoying it, but I have a few questions:
Am I correct in thinking that rooting consists entirely of getting su and Superuser.apk on the phone, and the hard part is setuiding and chmodding them?
What exactly is meant by "radio" in "flash a new radio"?
Why is it necessary to flash the stock recovery before applying an OTA update? Shouldn't ClockworkMod be able to do anything the stock recovery can?
(Somewhat related to the previous question) What would happen if one accepted an OTA without unrooting or applying the stock recovery?
Thank you all and sorry for my noobishness.
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1 yes
2 the radio is the thing that gets the signals
3 clockwork can't flash radios
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Thanks for the quick responses.
I'm not trying to criticize Clockwork in any way here, but why can't it flash the radio? Does it need the NAND to be unlocked, and if so, would it be possible to use Unrevoked to put on a new radio?

tchebb said:
Thanks for the quick responses.
I'm not trying to criticize Clockwork in any way here, but why can't it flash the radio? Does it need the NAND to be unlocked, and if so, would it be possible to use Unrevoked to put on a new radio?
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No, koush just didnt put it in for whatever reason.
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jdkoreclipse said:
No, koush just didnt put it in for whatever reason.
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Thanks for the clarification. Are there currently no other suitable recoveries for the Incredible that can flash the radio?

tchebb said:
Thanks for the clarification. Are there currently no other suitable recoveries for the Incredible that can flash the radio?
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No. I tried amonra from the desire, and i nearly broke my recovery.
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One more question: what does PB31IMG.zip do? Is it just the stock recovery, or does it return everything back to stock?
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tchebb said:
One more question: what does PB31IMG.zip do? Is it just the stock recovery, or does it return everything back to stock?
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Yes everything back to stock... if you have upgraded the radio you might get an error sayin something like main version its older.
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tchebb said:
Hello everyone,
I just got my Droid Incredible and have rooted it using Unrevoked3. I'm really enjoying it, but I have a few questions:
Am I correct in thinking that rooting consists entirely of getting su and Superuser.apk on the phone, and the hard part is setuiding and chmodding them?
What exactly is meant by "radio" in "flash a new radio"?
Why is it necessary to flash the stock recovery before applying an OTA update? Shouldn't ClockworkMod be able to do anything the stock recovery can?
(Somewhat related to the previous question) What would happen if one accepted an OTA without unrooting or applying the stock recovery?
Thank you all and sorry for my noobishness.
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1. Root consists of getting the MOST access to the device so things that we're normally out of our privilege range can be accessed... i.e. flashlight/titanium back up etc. It also pushes busybox su and the custom recovery to make ADB easier.
2. Think of the radio as the bios on your PC....very important...mess with it and you can EASILY break your machine of choice.
3. The reason I am sure Koush left radio flashability out is because of the ridiculous amount of noobs that would simply destroy their device by being curious/not reading the giant red letters in most posts/just not paying attention to what they are doing. It is VERY easy to brick a device with access to flashing the radio...dangerous and probably a fail safe to keep as many bricks down as possible.
4. What would probably happen with the OTA is you will either A. Loose root and be completely stock WITH NO WAY of downgrading to gain root. B. Brick Brick Brick. C. Profit? D. It might not let you even continue with the installation because of the custom recovery...not sure though because it hasn't happened yet....just DO NOT ACCEPT ANY OTA REQUESTS.
The PB image is the only way to downgrade back to stock. Completely stock. Out of the box stock. No root...no nothing! BUT it reopens the unrevoked exploits so you can reroot and also allows you to flash the OTA is your version is older...some tricks need to be taken though to get your version older then the ota.
The OTA is said to patch the exploit to RUU to stock. That means no mores roots if you OTA. Wait it out...when it drops it will be rooted and ready for the flashness.

[Q] Update question?

to receive the update notification, do i need to have stock recovery or any other stock components installed??

Search this forum, and I promise the answer is there. Five times over.
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cash30 said:
to receive the update notification, do i need to have stock recovery or any other stock components installed??
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You need to be bone stock to get upgrade, but you can and should have s-off from unrevoked forever. Use my sig link if you need more help.

Thanks....i've got s-off so i downgraded back to the original 2.1 and everything that comes with it. Now the waiting game begins...

Good Luck with the waiting game, I'm waiting myself

I was told you just need to be on 2.1 with stock recovery and radio. Removing bloat is fine. You want to apply s-off so can get root again the update.
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[Q] Will the security fix OTA unroot rooted devices?

With the announcement made today that HTC is pushing the OTA Security update:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...ral-devices-that-fixes-massive-security-flaw/
Will it unroot devices or is there a way to apply this without issues? Or do we wait for it to be included in one of our favorite ROMs by the devs?

If u unrevoked forever like I did then no. But anyway its never a good idea to ota if u like ur rooted device.
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Thanks for the quick reply. Thought about as much. However, where do you find the update? The article says HTC is pushing it. However, it's not on their download links page.

It does not turn you to s-off, although you do need to reflash your recovery, ie amon ra or clockwork and you news to reflash superuser.
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It's always best to just flash the rooted version - it'll be up in soon after. If you're already on stock, you should be able to just wipe cache and dalvik and flash the odexed version over your current stock setup.
I'd make a nandroid backup of course, just in case.
You should be able to OTA and then flash recovery & Superuser, but you have much more control and much less risk flashing it yourself.
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sanjsrik said:
Thanks for the quick reply. Thought about as much. However, where do you find the update? The article says HTC is pushing it. However, it's not on their download links page.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485

I have posted a rooted, stock version with the latest ota
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319881
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I just tried installing the update and it said something like installation aborted or something like that lol. I'll wait till I get home to download the rooted update lol
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[Q] Need help updating gingerbread

i am a total noob pls pm me if u have the time to help... i have a stock rooted ROM, s-off, with hboot 6.16.1002 and also have like a million and one questions. i bought the phone rooted.

What exactly do you need help with? If you just want the latest GB update just find a stock rooted rom and flash it thru recovery, brad--- the - represent numbers I can't remember on the end of his name, has a good one called sprint updated, to flash go to recovery wipe data/factory reset wipe all options including cache and dalvik cache, hopefully you are using amon RA because cwm doesn't have as many wipe options feel free to pm me if u need more help
Edit: if you flash another rom afterwords the update wont stick so there's really no point in updating just find a rom you like and flash it, that can take a while tho cuz you will need to try different roms/kernels to find what works best for you
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I have a stock Rom all I wanted to do was update gingerbread. I found a great vid on YouTube and it worked great n I didn't have to flash anything
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If you're rooted you should never take an ota update it can mess.your phone up. That's y it is recommended to flash a stock rooted updated rom if you change roms the update will go away anyways as the new rom will be whichever revision of android it was based off of
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angelzmom said:
I have a stock Rom all I wanted to do was update gingerbread. I found a great vid on YouTube and it worked great n I didn't have to flash anything
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If you didn't flash anything then you did it wrong.

They took an ota
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
They took an ota
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No I didn't take an ota. I downloaded the file odexed version put it on my sd card put the card in my phone loaded it on hboot or something found the file and installed it that way. I have no idea what its called I did
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angelzmom said:
No I didn't take an ota. I downloaded the file odexed version put it on my sd card put the card in my phone loaded it on hboot or something found the file and installed it that way. I have no idea what its called I did
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It's called flashing, but I doubt you have root anymore. You may have s-off, but you probably don't have root access.
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[Q] SPH-L900 update, already rooted?

Hi, So about 5 days ago I rooted my Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II using the video Max Lee made from galaxynote2root(dot)com, and about 36 hours later I get a notification for an OTA update. I kept off updating because I didn't really know what to do. I'm really new to this and there's still a lot I have to learn. Anyway, I ran the update and it restarted my phone and went to the TWRP screen. I restarted the system and it stopped notifying me about the update. And I checked and it says that my system is up to date. And I also checked to see if I still have root with a root checker app I downloaded, and it said I still had root also. So, was the app wrong and I don't have root anymore? And after I updated should I have restored the backup I made when I originally rooted? Also, thanks for any help, I've looked around and couldn't find anyone else with this question.

Your phone automatically downloaded the update and was waiting to be powercycled to install. However it failed to install because it requires stock recovery to install and you dont have it. So your phone boots back up and all is good with no changess.
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xKrisx said:
Your phone automatically downloaded the update and was waiting to be powercycled to install. However it failed to install because it requires stock recovery to install and you dont have it. So your phone boots back up and all is good with no changess.
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So my phone is not updated, but what if I want to update in the future? I just download and run stock recovery?

same issue
Sandelorian said:
So my phone is not updated, but what if I want to update in the future? I just download and run stock recovery?
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I also have the same issues. I did a back up of my original roms and re installed using twrp . I down load the new update and when its going to restart it goes into to twrp menu. From there i am stuck on what to do.

It failed because you're not on stock recovery. If flashing the stock ota, you need stock recovery.
If you have twrp recovery, read and review this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148604

thunderwagn said:
It failed because you're not on stock recovery. If flashing the stock ota, you need stock recovery.
If you have twrp recovery, read and review this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148604
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Before I rooted my note I made a back up using twrp. Is that not a stock recovery file ?.

Yes and no. That's basically just a backup of the stock rom that's only flashable via twrp since that is the recovery used to create the nand. So yes it is a recovery but only flashable thru twrp.
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thunderwagn said:
Yes and no. That's basically just a backup of the stock rom that's only flashable via twrp since that is the recovery used to create the nand. So yes it is a recovery but only flashable thru twrp.
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Ok well I did recovered using twrp and it installed and took me back that state before the root. I was thinking that took me back to original state and then update . I did download the update but as it was restarting the twrp home sceen would pop up and not update. So now I have no root or new update. Its funny it was easier to root then to unroot.

The link I posted above would have allowed you to flash new firmware and ma7 through twrp. No unroot reroot required. ..
And like stated, you can't update the stock ota update without stock recovery.
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Confused about all the links!
thunderwagn said:
The link I posted above would have allowed you to flash new firmware and ma7 through twrp. No unroot reroot required. ..
And like stated, you can't update the stock ota update without stock recovery.
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There are 6 links on that thread, one for odex and deodex (which I have no idea what it does), and then the 2 links for ma7 one all in one, and one just regular. And then there are another set of 2 links for the kernals, one regular and one modified. I guess what I'm asking is, how do I install these and which ones should I install? I have no idea what any of them do anyway.

How
how do we go about it and what files exactly do we need? why is everyone so vague?
thunderwagn said:
The link I posted above would have allowed you to flash new firmware and ma7 through twrp. No unroot reroot required. ..
And like stated, you can't update the stock ota update without stock recovery.
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Links go to mystical places with instructions and posts and helpful comments and answers. All you have to do is click and read and absorb the knowledge.

thunderwagn said:
The link I posted above would have allowed you to flash new firmware and ma7 through twrp. No unroot reroot required. ..
And like stated, you can't update the stock ota update without stock recovery.
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I have flashed over 30 SPH-L900 (Note 2) fron Sprint to Boost.
I do everything on CDMA (paid version) 3.9.
Since the L.900VPAMAZ update I can no longer change the esn to Boost because the 16 digit CDMA passcode is no longer the default passcode for the Note 2. The old pascode: 01F2030F5F678FF9 still works for the Galaxy S2 and S3 but is no longer recognized on CDMA Workshop or QXDM.
If anyone knows the new passcode please let me know.
If I find it I will post it so that noone else has this problem.
Thanks!