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Is there any reason to stick with this phone?
I just picked up the AT&T Tilt2 from LetsTalk.com for free and I still feel like I got ripped off.
I've used WinMo since the days of the Velo and upgraded from the Tilt to the Tilt2 and I think I'm sick of Windows Mobile trying to figure out what it wants to be. Since the Tilt they took away the dedicated camera button and the option to use led notifications. I wanted to try another ROM this weekend but I can't Hard-SPL. Won't work for nothing.
As per iPhone vs this thing.
Phone comes is no storage space.
(I need to pick up a 16gig card for $40. iPhone comes with 32gig in this price point.)
The phone starts at 85% and I can't run more than one app.
(I killed TF3d push and the proxy to get back some ram)
I can't hear the other person. The earpiece is totally muffled.
(Will probably need to replace phone.)
Caller shows as "unknown" during call.
HTC notification stops working and I get the WinMo bubble so I have to reset.
Browsers suck. Apps suck. Marketplace sucks and I think installs to device memory only.
Did I miss anything?
I just picked up the AT&T Tilt2 from LetsTalk.com for free and I still feel like I got ripped off.
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Your an idiot if you think you got ripped off.
I've used WinMo since the days of the Velo and upgraded from the Tilt to the Tilt2 and I think I'm sick of Windows Mobile trying to figure out what it wants to be. Since the Tilt they took away the dedicated camera button and the option to use led notifications. I wanted to try another ROM this weekend but I can't Hard-SPL. Won't work for nothing.
As per iPhone vs this thing.
Phone comes is no storage space.
(I need to pick up a 16gig card for $40. iPhone comes with 32gig in this price point.)
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You going to be transferring movies or songs with your 32gig iPhone? Only place your going to watch them is on the phone. Look at it another way you now cant have removable storage if you get an iPhone.
The phone starts at 85% and I can't run more than one app.
(I killed TF3d push and the proxy to get back some ram)
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Don't know what you talking about I have more then 50% of my ram left and I am using a stock rom.
I can't hear the other person. The earpiece is totally muffled.
(Will probably need to replace phone.)
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No problems with this either get an exchange.
Caller shows as "unknown" during call.
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Also not a problem get an exchange.
Browsers suck. Apps suck. Marketplace sucks and I think installs to device memory only.
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I personally like this browser over the iPhone, the pinch feature is nice but we have a zoom bar. Get at&t in the Chicago land area and you will see how much at&t's net work really sucks.
Did I miss anything?
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Yes you missed becoming a gay apple follower when you buy your iPhone.
superrrguy said:
I just picked up the AT&T Tilt2 from LetsTalk.com for free and I still feel like I got ripped off.
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So stop whining and turn it in for an iPhone. Would you like us to convince you to keep the TP2?
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I'm sick of Windows Mobile trying to figure out what it wants to be.
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Well the iPhone will be better for you then, since Apple knows exactly what they want you to do with their phone, whether you like their decisions or not.
But I don't want to be a gay apple follower. I don't own anything Apple and don't want to start buying all new power cords because they likes to rape their customers.
Help me keep this phone. Why won't it work! My Toshiba e800 still works. This phone is driving me nuts!
Have you guys seen how Google Reader works on the iPhone and even Android?
What is the point of these threads? You obviously were destined to hate the TP2 because you think the iPhone does everything perfectly. 85% RAM on bootup? Thats a lie. So are all your other problems. Just return it, get an iPhone, and go away.
FYI this board is anything but friendly.......so is the whole internet......actualy the whole human race is stroking it epeen to much to care about anyone elses issues.
superrrguy said:
I can't hear the other person. The earpiece is totally muffled.
(Will probably need to replace phone.)
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I did exchange my phone in store, ... 2 times. Same thing.
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I wasn't destined to hate this phone.
This is probably the best design on the market right now. Hardware wise this things blows away the iPhone except for the storage. This thing is pretty slick but I'm having problems using the device and you guys are getting all defensive.
I made an educated decision and chose this phone but I'm having a whole bunch of problems which I guess no one else is and this phone just doesn't feel up to the competition. Even Android does more than this thing.
All your complaints have easy solutions for anyone willing to put in even a small amount of effort into searching for and applying tweaks and/or adjustments. If you're not willing to do that then you belong in apple zombieland.
Nothing against the iPhone (I actually own a 32gb iPhone 3GS), it's just some people need to stick to something that works a specific way with little to no need of intelligence to get it working right. Sounds like your there target customer. No offense intended.
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I did exchange my phone in store, ... 2 times. Same thing.
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Thanks. Trying that.
dude keep the tilt 2, take it from me. I have been using WinMo since the Hermes, had the tilt before this, then I used my upgrade and decided to try out the iPhone. I picked up the iPhone 32 GB 3GS, a case, and a car charger.
After using the iPhone for less than a day, it was very obvious that it needed to be jailbroken in order to have some features that I have become accustomed to. So I jailbroke it, downloaded Cydia (which is the 'underground' app store for jailbroken phones), and tried to make it work. Long story short, I had it for 10 days before I needed to come back to WinMo. Apple has iPhone users by the nuts, and because of that the phone is extremely restrictive. Basic features like changing the background, or being able to have more than 1 (can still only have 2 max) app open. Not to mention Safari does not and will most likely not ever support Flash. There aren't any browsers that do, and there's 1 app that supports a hand full of sites. Not yet break, and other popular ones.
Jailbreaking and apple is like cat and mouse. They release firmware updates regularly and it usually take several weeks (give or take) until somebody creates a jailbreaking app. For those weeks you would be forced to live without your needed apps......unless you hold off on the update. But the thing with holding off is their last few big updates came with features that I've had for YEARS. Example: PICTURE TEXTS!! MMS!! I mean come on, wtf is that?
The battery life was the deciding factor for me. My phone would have 100% charge around 2:00 AM when I would go to bed and by 8:30 AM it was down to 91'ish. Throughout the day the battery would be extremely low and require a charge. To be honest with you the battery life is despicable. That thing needed to be charged more in 1 day than I would get in my tilt all weekend, I kid you not. It's that bad. Even my die hard iPhone friends always ***** about how crappy the battery life is.
I would say hang on to the tilt 2 for a little bit longer. I'm really diggin the Touch FLO 3D interface. I never really ran it on my tilt because it was always a little laggy, but it's smooth like butter right out of the box. I want to hold off flashing ROM's for a while but I know it's only a matter of time. There's a lot of good ones out there, make sure to check them out. If you are having trouble Hard SPL'ing I'm sure if you ask on the forum, it will get answered.
The iPhone was too restrictive for me, and trust me I really tried to like it. I wanted to like it so bad. I was sick of the Tilt. It was laggy, and ever since ROMeOS (monx) left the Kaiser ROM cooking for rhodium I couldn't find a ROM that I really liked. I am looking forward to flashing one of his roms on this phone, but to be honest I'm going to hold off because it's running extremely smooth. I use IE, Opera, and SkyFire. There's a handful of other ones you can try too.
That's my 2 cents
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dude keep the tilt 2, take it from me. I have been using WinMo since the Hermes, had the tilt before this, then I used my upgrade and decided to try out the iPhone. I picked up the iPhone 32 GB 3GS, a case, and a car charger.
After using the iPhone for less than a day, it was very obvious that it needed to be jailbroken in order to have some features that I have become accustomed to. So I jailbroke it, downloaded Cydia (which is the 'underground' app store for jailbroken phones), and tried to make it work. Long story short, I had it for 10 days before I needed to come back to WinMo. Apple has iPhone users by the nuts, and because of that the phone is extremely restrictive. Basic features like changing the background, or being able to have more than 1 (can still only have 2 max) app open. Not to mention Safari does not and will most likely not ever support Flash. There aren't any browsers that do, and there's 1 app that supports a hand full of sites. Not yet break, and other popular ones.
Jailbreaking and apple is like cat and mouse. They release firmware updates regularly and it usually take several weeks (give or take) until somebody creates a jailbreaking app. For those weeks you would be forced to live without your needed apps......unless you hold off on the update. But the thing with holding off is their last few big updates came with features that I've had for YEARS. Example: PICTURE TEXTS!! MMS!! I mean come on, wtf is that?
The battery life was the deciding factor for me. My phone would have 100% charge around 2:00 AM when I would go to bed and by 8:30 AM it was down to 91'ish. Throughout the day the battery would be extremely low and require a charge. To be honest with you the battery life is despicable. That thing needed to be charged more in 1 day than I would get in my tilt all weekend, I kid you not. It's that bad. Even my die hard iPhone friends always ***** about how crappy the battery life is.
I would say hang on to the tilt 2 for a little bit longer. I'm really diggin the Touch FLO 3D interface. I never really ran it on my tilt because it was always a little laggy, but it's smooth like butter right out of the box. I want to hold off flashing ROM's for a while but I know it's only a matter of time. There's a lot of good ones out there, make sure to check them out. If you are having trouble Hard SPL'ing I'm sure if you ask on the forum, it will get answered.
The iPhone was too restrictive for me, and trust me I really tried to like it. I wanted to like it so bad. I was sick of the Tilt. It was laggy, and ever since ROMeOS (monx) left the Kaiser ROM cooking for rhodium I couldn't find a ROM that I really liked. I am looking forward to flashing one of his roms on this phone, but to be honest I'm going to hold off because it's running extremely smooth. I use IE, Opera, and SkyFire. There's a handful of other ones you can try too.
That's my 2 cents
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I have both phones - iPhone 3GS & the Tilt2 (& others). Totally agree with you on the restrictions and the suffocation I feel every time I use the iPhone. But again, it is for a certain market/usage scenario. Nothing against that..
But the battery life is definitely not as bad as you saw. Before iPhone OS 3.0, battery life sucked (I stayed back on a very old 2.x version). To stretch battery, I kept all radios (Wifi, 3G, etc) on manual control and switched them on as necessary. Things are definitely better with 3.0 - all the radios are on Auto now. I dread going to 3.1 or 3.2. I'm staying put for some time now..
I love WM and was waiting for the Tilt2 (My first PPC, touchscreen/keypad device). Google's lack of love for WM saddens me, but hey, there's always another way - thats what makes WM special..
Interestingly, I'm (sorta) having a battery problem with the Tilt2 on Stock ROM. Battery full charge lasts me 1.5 to 1.75 days max. I want to get atleast 2 full days on the fresh/brand new battery. I'm playing with the settings in the Advanced config & Touch Diamond2 apps this weekend to see if I can improve on the battery life. Again, not a biggie as I can always get a second battery with it's own charger. I'm still in the "optimizing" mode. And there is always the path blazed out by our esteemed cooks.. ^hat tip..
superrrguy, WM takes time, but hey you can get what you want.. iPhone (even with the app store or jail break, etc) is what Steve wants for you. Again, not a bad thing. You need to decide whats your thing..
nemets said:
I did exchange my phone in store, ... 2 times. Same thing.
Some improvement noted after changing "Treble Level" to "
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Same here. There's no fix for that on Tilt 2 yet. (only Touch Pro unlocked ver, which doesn't seem to work for Tilt 2). Also the "unknown caller" issue has no fix either yet. The stock browsers are pretty bad too. Using Opera Mini, Skyfire or flashing a new ROM will solve. It takes a little patience working with Tilt2 but is worth it. Still love it
I knew it................
Oh no!!!
I thought that Rhodium section will be saved form iphoney vs....
But no
Why everybody has to compare all
Thread number 54 about comparing iphoney
Do an exchange, then...
Look in this Forum for ideas about tweeking your Tilt 2 to function as you like. Start by getting rid of all the AT&T Crapware - it does kill the memory. I've killed about 60% of it, and now I have 35% available when up and running, which sounds aweful, but this phone does more with that than any WinMo phone I've had since the MPx200! It flies!
All the other issues are either faulty hardware or easily tweeked - look in the forums and you'll find the fix to your issues.
You won't be able to change ANYTHING you like on the iPhone, so don't switch unless it's Nirvana to you, or you are willing to give Apple total control over your phone. Your choice, but either way, please, less winging and more action, many others have made the same helpful suggestions yet you persist in crying over the same issues that you could have fixed yourself by now. If you're a noob, then welcome, but please say so, so we can offer more basic advice.
Either way, good luck, everyone deserves a good phone that they like!
MadSci
MadSci said:
Look in this Forum for ideas about tweeking your Tilt 2 to function as you like. Start by getting rid of all the AT&T Crapware - it does kill the memory. I've killed about 60% of it, and now I have 35% available when up and running, which sounds aweful, but this phone does more with that than any WinMo phone I've had since the MPx200! It flies!
All the other issues are either faulty hardware or easily tweeked - look in the forums and you'll find the fix to your issues.
You won't be able to change ANYTHING you like on the iPhone, so don't switch unless it's Nirvana to you, or you are willing to give Apple total control over your phone. Your choice, but either way, please, less winging and more action, many others have made the same helpful suggestions yet you persist in crying over the same issues that you could have fixed yourself by now. If you're a noob, then welcome, but please say so, so we can offer more basic advice.
Either way, good luck, everyone deserves a good phone that they like!
MadSci
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35%? with touch flo 3d?
im using miri's 6.5 manilla 2.1 rom and its 65% when no program is running -____-
I think one of the problems of built-in memory is if the phone needs servicing for some reason and the phone cannot be turned on and you cannot delete the personal data of the phone, then you risk the data will go to the wrong hand.
For TP2, I would simply take out the SD card before I would send the phone to any service centre.
The Tilt2 is a powerhouse workhorse for the business oriented consumer. The iPhone is a toy. Do you want to be associated with all those teens at the local mall carrying around iPhones? I tried out the iPhone. It is definitely fun for the games but I was not able to be productive on it. When I exchanged it for the Tilt2, the AT&T clerk could not understand why I would want to trade in my iPhone for the Tilt2. The Tilt2 is NOT for the average consumer. You have to tweak it to get it to work to your liking.
jopherr said:
35%? with touch flo 3d?
im using miri's 6.5 manilla 2.1 rom and its 65% when no program is running -____-
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He said 35% AVAILABLE. So that means he is at 65% memory usage.
About the earpiece sound quality issue, mine sounds great (out of the box). So I suspect the OP has a defective unit.
Hi all, I have just ordered my Desire and it gets delivered Tuesday whats the first thing I should do/install when turing my Desire on ?
Make a phone call? Send a text? Read the ****in forum?
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that depends on quite a lot of things.... what do you want to do with it?, do you want to root it? what firmware it has when you get it will determine how you do that.
put it on charge for 12 hours BEFORE even turning it on!!!!! Then the battery will be much much better, I didnt do it the first time, 1 hour with heavy use, now, with a new (official HTC Desire) battery it is 2 days, don't know if its just me, but be sure to read the forum and the leaflets you get with the phone!!
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that depends on quite a lot of things.... what do you want to do with it?, do you want to root it? what firmware it has when you get it will determine how you do that.
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the phone is going to be on 3UK and have android 2.1 can I flash it to 2.2 ?
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Make a phone call? Send a text? Read the ****in forum?
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This is a tossers response and not indicative of the normal people on here.
What to do first? Well its really dependant on what you like to do. Me personally would straight away try to get it on Froyo followed by trying to get Music Junk installed and all my google account set up so that my contacts are all stored in the cloud as opposed to on the phone.
Rooting is OK but apart from backing up has few benefits tbh.
I dont know if you have used android before but there are some really crap apps out there that promise the world and deliver nothing so I suggest "obtaining" a copy first and if you like it and want to keep it then buy it. Unlike Apple the Market is fairly unregulated and there is a lot of plain lies and sometimes simply variations between the hardware which results in you not getting the software you paid for.
Doubletwist is a nice music app too that has a PC sync Client like itunes.
Short answer: ASTRO File Manager
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put it on charge for 12 hours BEFORE even turning it on!!!!! Then the battery will be much much better, I didnt do it the first time, 1 hour with heavy use, now, with a new (official HTC Desire) battery it is 2 days, don't know if its just me, but be sure to read the forum and the leaflets you get with the phone!!
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I wouldn´t sign this... This "load it one billion hours before use" is an old myth, back from the days of NiMH. You´ve a Li-Ion battery in your phone, so it shouldn´t make any difference how long you load it the first time (by the way, the perfect point of use of a Li-Ion is between 45 - 55 %... at least in PHEV-Batteries)
I would say, the first thing to do is get to know your new super-phone
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I wouldn´t sign this... This "load it one billion hours before use" is an old myth, back from the days of NiMH. You´ve a Li-Ion battery in your phone, so it shouldn´t make any difference how long you load it the first time (by the way, the perfect point of use of a Li-Ion is between 45 - 55 %... at least in PIHV-Batteries)
I would say, the first thing to do is get to know your new super-phone
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I agree! This is the case for old tech but not the new Li-Ion gear
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I agree! This is the case for old tech but not the new Li-Ion gear
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I would say it did take a good couple of days for the battery to seem to hold its full charge. I guess it just needed some time to calibrate.
First thing I'd do: go and download Dynamo Kid. I love that game so much <3
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I would say it did take a good couple of days for the battery to seem to hold its full charge. I guess it just needed some time to calibrate.
First thing I'd do: go and download Dynamo Kid. I love that game so much <3
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downloading Dynamo Kid Now! I love these forums!
Download: Handcent SMS, MSN Talk, Shazam, XDA app, Places Directory and Alchemy.
dont forget midomi and music junk although the latter is hard to find as its soooooooo good
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Download: Handcent SMS, MSN Talk, Shazam, XDA app, Places Directory and Alchemy.
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Shazam <3 Not sure on the MSN Talk though -- I just use eBuddy and I've still yet to share everyone's love of Handcent
Oooh! Download Extended Controls is THE HANDIEST widget I have ever found. It's basically a customisable Power Control widget.
Catch That Bus has saved my bacon so many times catching a bus and it's well worth the cash.
Lookout is great if you lose your phone/have it stolen you can locate it from the site!
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Shazam <3 Not sure on the MSN Talk though -- I just use eBuddy and I've still yet to share everyone's love of Handcent
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LOL Handsent is OK But i agree its nothing special
With the updated Sense UI that comes with android 2.2 I like the default HTC sms application better than Handcent.
owziee said:
With the updated Sense UI that comes with android 2.2 I like the default HTC sms application better than Handcent.
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I've actually been looking for another app. I HATE the way the input thingy stays at the bottom. I used to hop up and down when typing.
Personally, first thing I'd do is just use the phone. Get used to it and you may find it does everything you need straight out the box!
If, after a week or so, you feel there are parts that can be improved then delve into the Market and/or rooting and see if this can help you. I only use about 4 apps so A2SD isn't needed and I've only rooted to remove the crap I don't want in a ROM to keep the phone as streamlined as possible
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This is a tossers response and not indicative of the normal people on here.
What to do first? Well its really dependant on what you like to do. Me personally would straight away try to get it on Froyo followed by trying to get Music Junk installed and all my google account set up so that my contacts are all stored in the cloud as opposed to on the phone.
Rooting is OK but apart from backing up has few benefits tbh.
I dont know if you have used android before but there are some really crap apps out there that promise the world and deliver nothing so I suggest "obtaining" a copy first and if you like it and want to keep it then buy it. Unlike Apple the Market is fairly unregulated and there is a lot of plain lies and sometimes simply variations between the hardware which results in you not getting the software you paid for.
Doubletwist is a nice music app too that has a PC sync Client like itunes.
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Cheers Guys some very good comments there and the odd pointless one, I have had an HTC Hero for the last year but I have been using the missis old iPhone 3G for the past couple of months, the main problem I found with the Hero was when texting (using Handcent) I kept accidently pressing the wrong letters (so annoying) is this fixed on the Desire, also when browsing the web on the hero (which I do a lot of on my phones) the pages not showing the correct size on the screen I think the iPhone was a lot better for browsing the web compared to the Hero, is this also better on the Desire ?
Is it worth upgrading the ROM on the Desire to an unofficial 2.2 version if so which is the best to upgrade to and how easy is it I had all sorts of problems trying to get Froyo on my Hero I gave up in the end and ordered the Desire I kept getting connection Error 170, couldnt backup the Hero using Ti Backup etc...
Hey guys, just checked: theres an app called "liveview application" in the market ;-)
So launch shouldnt be too far away
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Are you buying one? If yes could you share the points that you think matters for you to own one?
Thanks
I'm definitely considering buying one, or at least asking for it for Xmas if I don't get around to buying it. I've kind of been wanting to get a watch anyways and this brilliant little device would be a nice watch and great for seeing what messages friends are sending to me while I'm working. I'm also an accessory whore so theres that as well. Why buy a fancy watch when I can get something that connects right to my phone and does much more than tell me the time
If it isn't astronomically priced I would consider getting one. Sony made an older bluetooth watch that is still available on ebay for a fairly high amount though.
I amuse myself with the thought of kids in school being able to check their text messages / social networks from their watch. I would have.
I have one since yesterday but display wont work,battery wont load,so bad.
Send it back.
sndytime said:
I have one since yesterday but display wont work,battery wont load,so bad.
Send it back.
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Where did you get it from?
Didn't know it was for sale already..
I am also interested. Explains, explains, the place you bought?
I heard there was a first bunch available for a short time which is already sold out.
In germany/austria, amazon releases it on november 20th for 59,97€
http://www.amazon.de/Ericsson-LiveV...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1289038767&sr=8-1
I have bought my device here in Switzerland at Digitec but the first charge is sold out!
Can someone post the apk file here? I am not able to find it on the market!
Thaaannnkkkksss
Alleniv said:
Can someone post the apk file here? I am not able to find it on the market!
Thaaannnkkkksss
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Here is LiveView,LiveWare Manager and SportyPal App.
i think its actually hard to just grab ur phone and do ur things
btw, if u would buy one, lemme know how long the x10 battery lives, im pritty sure its not longer than halve a day cuz of the bt...
Yes, it's difficult to get the phone to a backpack when riding the motorcycle.
Tomorrow I get my Liveview . I also think I will have problems with the battery. I will explain.
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I'm actually thinking of buying this one too. regarding battery life, right now I have my x10 connected to my mbw-150 and IS800 and so far my phone lasts a day, granted I only wear them when I go out which is like 6 or 7 hours a day.
6 hours are the normal battery time for the liveview device!
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6 hours battery life is putting it a little low. Got mine since Friday 19th and have been using it since.
The battery holds for about 14 hours with on and off (regular) usage.
But as with all new devices, you'll probably drain that thing dry in about 5-6 hours, since you will be fumbling it all the time.
But as time goes and you'll use it normally, you should see a days worth of usage from the thing.
What concerns me, personally is the stability of the Software.
I don't know, how much is the apps fault (fixable), or that of the device (I've read no mention of it being update-able).
I already wrote SE for a statement on the matter.
As it is now, the device regularly quits working.
It wont go further then showing you the watch (time and date).
Nothing else.
After turning it off and on again, it automatically connects again and works though (taking about 10 seconds and two button presses).
With that behavior it's quite unreliable for notifications (it's main purpose).
I hope, SE can somehow fix that.
Got mine from ldlc.com
work nice.
But I'm a little bit disapointed with my mw600 now. I don't understand why the LiveView can display my contact name and my music title and the mw600 not ....
Dear All Thanks for the application
can anybody post the other 7 applications for live view since i dont have the android market in my x10 mini pro
apprecaite......
Can anybody please provide the updated version of liveview.apk?
Thanks, Sigi
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I'm actually thinking of buying this one too. regarding battery life, right now I have my x10 connected to my mbw-150 and IS800 and so far my phone lasts a day, granted I only wear them when I go out which is like 6 or 7 hours a day.
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MBW-150????!! i have that watch and i couldnt make it work like should be, its there any apk like in WIMO for it to works???
Hi guys!
I'm relatively new to droid phones but I have heard a lot about Defy and I briefly used some HTCs.
What is the best way to equip it with apps and what are the things that you always use in this phone?
Also any accessories that you find good?
Thanks much,
D
geekdude said:
Hi guys!
I'm relatively new to droid phones but I have heard a lot about Defy and I briefly used some HTCs.
What is the best way to equip it with apps and what are the things that you always use in this phone?
Also any accessories that you find good?
Thanks much,
D
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Well, the way I handle Android phones is very straight forward: buy the one with the hardware and firmware I want. Then... find out what's missing or doesn't really work and add apps to make up for it. For instance, the stock email app for pop3 email doesn't work with my email account, so I had to add the app "Seven" to have a workable email. (Though I just upgraded to 2.2 so have to try it again.) All depends on what you need the phone for.
If you're looking for the latest flavor of Android and infinite ways to customize your phone, skip Motorola altogether and look only at Google (Nexus One, Nexus S). \
If you don't mind putting the latest Android yourself, pick a phone that has CyanogenMod firmware. You can bet it is unlocked and you'll find at least another few alternative firmwares for it!
Cheers!
PS: For 100 euros more I would have had a Nexus One and a big smile on my face... Now I have to wait for a cracked bootloader or Motorola's mercy...
Can't mount a Nexus on the handlebars of your motorcycle or mountain bike in the rain. But for those who like to stay indoors and play with their boot-loader... plus if you have the right carrier, you can use wifi calling.
Wow, there's really a bunch of hardcore users on this forum! I will consider Nexus S as well. I was tempted by this anti-hit cover for Defy but I'm not really a traveller or mountain climber
What about energy? I read here a lot of posts where people complain about battery life on Androids. How's Nexus S with it?
I get 3-4 days, but i have optimizations explained next, and NO widgets, and i make only a few calls and read mail or install some app little use.
Anyway. With SetVsel and underclock - undervolted, and setting Wireless always on (very important; always ON for some crazy reason increase battery life when screen is off) you should get at least 24 hours of heavy use. and 2-3 days of normal use.
geekdude said:
Wow, there's really a bunch of hardcore users on this forum! I will consider Nexus S as well. I was tempted by this anti-hit cover for Defy but I'm not really a traveller or mountain climber
What about energy? I read here a lot of posts where people complain about battery life on Androids. How's Nexus S with it?
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frankly, I find your question "What is the best way to equip it with apps and what are the things that you always use in this phone?" a bit strange.
> for apps there is this magical thing called "market". any chance you have heard of it?
> I might be a bit conservative but I use my smartphone to call, surf, read email and manage my appointments (i.e. use the calendar). but that is just me. you should be the one who knows what he wants to do with it, not us.
regarding battery life: it varies a lot, just with every smartphone. you can drain it in 1-2 hours, e.g. with GPS navigation or multimedia stuff. but you can have to recharge it only 2-3 times a week, like I do with averge usage (i.e. do thinks when they have to be done and not mistaking the phone for a nintendo)
Hi everyone!
I'm a LG O3D user (with great regrets...) and I have the possibility of a (almost) new ONE X, unbranded for €300.
I know that every phone as its issues, and I've read the foruns in search of those issues in the ONE X, but wanted to have a deeper insight on the everyday life with this one.
I really like HTC and having owned a Hero, and knowing the support (at least here in Pt) is good, I'm really thinking of it.
Thank you very much!
I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.
Thanks for the info!
I'm testing it tomorow or the day after.
Whats your thoughts on the battery life?
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I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.
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Mouselik said:
Thanks for the info!
I'm testing it tomorow or the day after.
Whats your thoughts on the battery life?
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Battery life is surprisingly good for me. After the first couple days i easily get over 12 hours before reaching 20%. Must say i love that the phone drains almost no battery when listening to music in my experiences.
HyBry said:
I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.
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The wifi issue normally doesnt substantiate until a couple of weeks in use, and so does the screen flickering issue. So far popular know issues include:
1) Bad battery life (~ 2 hr of screen time)
2) Over heating after 5-10minutes in use
3) GPS issue
4) Screen flex issue
5) Screen flickering (mostly solved)
6) Antenna issue
7) 3G connection
8) Gaps
9) Sense issues
And before you buy this you should pray to your lucky star that you wont get a dud one. I've seen people on this forum going thru so much stress w HTC and this phone.
Battery life there are days I think not bad and on others I ask myself what the hell? Despite having my phone for around 4 or 5 months I still do notice drops of 3-5% in battery life. I can't really make my mind up for this device. I can't tell if htc is going to improve anything on this device anymore or if that's just as good as it gets. It'll be best if you just end up expecting nothing from HTC. That will save you from having expectations that wont be met anyway.
Edit: by the way there is a battery life thread with a trillion posts in it. Just open it and come up with a conclusion yourself. Be warned though, you might see people with around 5 to 6 hours of screen time which seems really questionable to me. I would say the people posting screen times of anywhere between 2 to 4 hours 30 minutes screen time are legit.
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Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
averygagaanroid said:
The wifi issue normally doesnt substantiate until a couple of weeks in use, and so does the screen flickering issue. So far popular know issues include:
1) Bad battery life (~ 2 hr of screen time)
2) Over heating after 5-10minutes in use
3) GPS issue
4) Screen flex issue
5) Screen flickering (mostly solved)
6) Antenna issue
7) 3G connection
8) Gaps
9) Sense issues
And before you buy this you should pray to your lucky star that you wont get a dud one. I've seen people on this forum going thru so much stress w HTC and this phone.
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One X user (Tegra version) since one week. Switched to the CM10 preview this weekend. Very good phone, battery life is on par with the rest. If you check the points mentioned above (also make sure the power and volume buttons are responsive), that sounds like a good deal. ROM community is very active, JB support already almost flawless. Also, the screen is the best I have seen on a phone so far.
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Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
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Just go get a sgs3. You can expect a crappy design plus a display not as nice as the one x in my opinion. But you also get to have a better performance, little to no lag, much better battery life.probably less hardware faults etc. (You at least know what you can expect and you actually get it)
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Mouselik said:
Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
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Honestly I think HTC has been playing the blame games and time buying strategies to the extent of ignoring customers and treating like crap. But still better than LG as far as I have known. And as someone has said, if you want a better chance of getting a drama free phone better get the SGS3, as much as I hate Samsung. But you're not gonna have that beautiful hardware and AMAZING screen (funny how i say this since I dont own it lol).
This is a co-worker who's selling its ONE X, so no S3 option for me...
I'm having a lot of trouble in knowing what to focus on, because from what I see (read), there are issues (as with every single phone), and I think the important part is the support by HTC being good.
On that point (HTC support), what do you think? Any experience with them?
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Just go get a sgs3. You can expect a crappy design plus a display not as nice as the one x in my opinion. But you also get to have a better performance, little to no lag, much better battery life.probably less hardware faults etc. (You at least know what you can expect and you actually get it)
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Mouselik said:
This is a co-worker who's selling its ONE X, so no S3 option for me...
I'm having a lot of trouble in knowing what to focus on, because from what I see (read), there are issues (as with every single phone), and I think the important part is the support by HTC being good.
On that point (HTC support), what do you think? Any experience with them?
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Long term htc users: "HTC supporrt is great, they might lack a little at first, but sooner or later(probably they mean later) they will just nail the update properly and it will all function nicely."
first time HTC user(myself): i've yet to see any of the support and i honestly feel like i'm not in good hands but i'm still open for them to prove it. The only reason i haven't completely given up on htc is because of the people who have been with htc for a much longer time. They seem to have a much different opinion of HTC and their updates and what not.
Oh yeah, not to forget, rooting/flashing can void your warranty *HIGH FIVE*
in my opinion to have your HOX function properly, you're gonna want to root.
edit: since it's a co-worker you're probably going to be getting it cheaper, right? Which will probably make the OneX more worthy of its price.
First thing you're going to want to do is check if his bootloader says "unlocked" or "relocked" or "locked" - this would make it possible for you to lower the price and get it even cheaper
Well on the update point, I think LG just trumps every single brand on the market... They simple don't give us any... LOL
Regarding the list of possible issues, do you think it can be easily observed? or its more of a wear-by-time kind of thing?
shadehh said:
Long term htc users: "HTC supporrt is great, they might lack a little at first, but sooner or later(probably they mean later) they will just nail the update properly and it will all function nicely."
first time HTC user(myself): i've yet to see any of the support and i honestly feel like i'm not in good hands but i'm still open for them to prove it. The only reason i haven't completely given up on htc is because of the people who have been using htc for a much longer time , they seem to have a much different opinion of HTC and their updates and what not.
Oh yeah, not to forget, rooting/flashing can void your warranty *HIGH FIVE*
in my opinion to have your HOX function properly, you're gonna want to root.
edit: since it's a co-worker you're probably going to be getting it cheaper, right? Which will probably make the OneX more worthy of its price.
First thing you're going to want to do is check if his bootloader says "unlocked" or "relocked" or "locked" - this would make it possible for you to lower the price and get it even cheaper
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Mouselik said:
Well on the update point, I think LG just trumps every single brand on the market... They simple don't give us any... LOL
Regarding the list of possible issues, do you think it can be easily observed? or its more of a wear-by-time kind of thing?
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Honestly! When i got this phone i was the happiest person on earth until i noticed a few problems here and there and this just ruined the overall user experience. There's something about this phone that tells me i want to keep it. Design is gorgeous, sometimes i just turn the phone around just to admire the awesome look of how it's built. When the problems start to pile up, however, you get really unsatisfied.
With later batches i heard the phone is supposed to be pretty good and problem-free. I believe the main issues that you won't see immediately is the WLAN issue and maybe a bit of a screen gap. Haven't really been hearing much of the flicker issues anymore.
How to notice the WiFi issue i'd suggest a google search or for you to look around @ xda forums. I don't really feel like explaining it. Actually, youtube should help you in this case --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKCJ4Ab2tIo
Well, being a smartphone user for some time, I can relate with that feeling...
I'm going to buy it, sell my O3D, and may the gods of smartphone be with me!
Thank you so much for your help.
P.S. It will cost me €300, being that here in Pt, a new unlocked one costs €700...
shadehh said:
Honestly! When i got this phone i was the happiest person on earth until i noticed a few problems here and there and this just ruined the overall user experience. There's something about this phone that tells me i want to keep it. Design is gorgeous, sometimes i just turn the phone around just to admire the awesome look of how it's built. When the problems start to pile up, however, you get really unsatisfied.
With later batches i heard the phone is supposed to be pretty good and problem-free. I believe the main issues that you won't see immediately is the WLAN issue and maybe a bit of a screen gap. Haven't really been hearing much of the flicker issues anymore.
How to notice the WiFi issue i'd suggest a google search or for you to look around @ xda forums. I don't really feel like explaining it. Actually, youtube should help you in this case --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKCJ4Ab2tIo
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Mouselik said:
Well, being a smartphone user for some time, I can relate with that feeling...
I'm going to buy it, sell my O3D, and may the gods of smartphone be with me!
Thank you so much for your help.
P.S. It will cost me €300, being that here in Pt, a new unlocked one costs €700...
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In this case, the phone is well worth it's price. Had you stated that in the beginning i think no one here would have even wanted to start a discussion
Hehe. It was my jedi mind trick to allure you guys to the discussion!
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In this case, the phone is well worth it's price. Had you stated that in the beginning i think no one here would have even wanted to start a discussion
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I wouldn't worry too much about it, anything that goes wrong will be covered by the warranty anway.
Mouselik said:
Hi everyone!
I'm a LG O3D user (with great regrets...) and I have the possibility of a (almost) new ONE X, unbranded for €300.
I know that every phone as its issues, and I've read the foruns in search of those issues in the ONE X, but wanted to have a deeper insight on the everyday life with this one.
I really like HTC and having owned a Hero, and knowing the support (at least here in Pt) is good, I'm really thinking of it.
Thank you very much!
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Buying a new one will have less chances of defects, as new models are more bugfree
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Well,
The seller (co-worker and friend) reports none of the liste issues. No wi-fi problem, no screen problem, and general usage with no hick-ups.
Is used it for about a month. And, furtunatly for me, he's more of an iPhone guy hehe
theDroidfanatic said:
Buying a new one will have less chances of defects, as new models are more bugfree
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