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when I got my desire it was super fast (anything is compared to the hero)
however ive noticed that over time it has become a little laggy when live wallpapers are running
i have very little running in the background as far as I can tell
the screen movements dont seem as smooth
ive still got 50+mb of program memory left
the only things i have running in the background are
weather and toggle widgets
seepu (processor monitor program)
Gmail counter (screen widgets)
messaging counter (screen widgets)
I also have the following installed
advanced task killer
appbrain market sync
appremover
explorer
ezcam
google service
google translate
mixzing
moodpaper
navigon
oi file manager
onoff widget pack
places directory
pkt auction ebay
shop savvy
spotify
skype
trafficintel
traintimes
xda
i have done a hard reset and it still is sometimes laggy ... gets worse when i install programs ... ive tried to work out which is causing the lag but have give up
any idea#s
i regularly flush the cache also
its still faster that my hero however its annyoying that it appears to get slow
perhaps ive got use to the speed and now want faster speeds however thought id ask if anyone else is having problems
I never use live wallpapers, it makes it slow. You also have lag without live wallpaper on? And I think its very easy to get used to the speed.
I hope we get some update soon (or even the 2.2 eventually) and see some nice speed improvements.
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Live wallpapers altogether make my phone laggy. The nexus live wallpaper seems OKAY though. And yeah, 2.2 will hopefully fix the lag.
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I would get rid of advanced task killer. In my experience this causes a lot more problems than it solves. It might just be useful if you are a real expert and have a badly behaved program but for the average user it almost always results in worse performance both in speed and battery life. I'm amazed that people continue to use it. Android is NOT like Windows, applications are usually suspended rather than run in the background and use hardly any resources.
The Android system does its own task killing where needed. 2.1 is rather good at it and you will not find many people who know what they are doing trying to improve on it.
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I would get rid of advanced task killer. In my experience this causes a lot more problems than it solves. It might just be useful if you are a real expert and have a badly behaved program but for the average user it almost always results in worse performance both in speed and battery life. I'm amazed that people continue to use it. Android is NOT like Windows, applications are usually suspended rather than run in the background and use hardly any resources.
The Android system does its own task killing where needed. 2.1 is rather good at it and you will not find many people who know what they are doing trying to improve on it.
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+1 Completely agree.
ATK is the most likely cause of the slowdown.
yeah mine lags only when a) I use live wallpaper (which I dont anymore)
and b) when its installing an app after downloading (for a few seconds) other than that its fine.although I do wish for a fix in the new 2.2 or something
i agree live wallpapers slow mine down a bit (although nexus one seems ok)
I use the nexus mod live wallpaper off the market. It doesn't slow down my phone and it adds settings for color schemes.
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jonmall1441 said:
I use the nexus mod live wallpaper off the market. It doesn't slow down my phone and it adds settings for color schemes.
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I use it too and I don't feel as if it slows down.
jonmall1441 said:
I use the nexus mod live wallpaper off the market. It doesn't slow down my phone and it adds settings for color schemes.
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where can i find this wallpaper you talk about ????
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where can i find this wallpaper you talk about ????
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just search for nexus one live wallpaper in the market. it's there.
I just got my EVO and will soon root it. I can't stand the HTC ROM and all of its apps that override the regular Android apps (messaging, calendar, etc.). I would like a minimalistic ROM with all of the HTC apps and Sense removed. Can anyone recommend a good one that may also offer benefits for performance (e.g. JIT) and battery life? I'd prefer to have the Sprint apps on it, such as Sprint TV and the NFL app, but I suppose I can always add those on afterward. I also won't consider a ROM with any sorts of issues (such as broken camera). Thanks!
Just found this ROM and flashed it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706202
It's been great, seems quick and very stable. It also allows you to delete almost any app, including sense and rosie util, plus any sprint ones you want off, plus the bloat HTC stuff (peep, trimmer, footprints, etc.)
Try it out, I've been pretty happy with it.
Damage control. Its got a gui they made to remove anything you don't wasn't and profiles to save battery or go into performance mode. Its amazing I get over a day usage now
Thanks for the quick reply guys. With so many great choices, I may just have to try them all!
Hello. Proud new owner of HTC Desire. I am going crazy at how beautiful this phone is.
I come from Nokia E71, BB Bold 9000, iPhone3G (never used 3Gs/4), Windows Mobile 6.
In all of those cases, I could not completely find OS that suits my needs.
I must say though, Symbian on E71 came closest to what I need.
What do I need?
I just need 5 functions, but I want them to work snappy and extremely fast.
Use the phone, send texts, browse the net, watch movies and use Google Maps. That's it.
As you can see, I am not a power user by any means. I don't need twitter, facebook, or push email. Basically, I am looking for simplest and most basic ROM out there that gets rid of pretty much EVERYTHING (think of custom Windows XP with useless features taken out).
I want to conserve as much battery as I can by not using anything that is not related to me.
Could any of you good folks recommend which ROM I should be looking at? I am not also a big fan of eye-candy, so this ROM I am seeking does not need to have the latest UI there's in the world. Just as long as it looks decent, but WORKS!
Thank you in advance. If there's a thread like this, please just link it and I will get info from there.
I use CyanogenMod with ADW launcher(CM6 comes with it), works great honestly. Does not contain any sort of extra bloat apart from the necessities. OpenDesire might be a good alternative to CM6 but I haven't tried it.
If you want a none sense ROM then Opendesire would easily be the most stable and the fastest. For sense, I would go Leedroid
If you want no Sense, go for OpenDesire. If you want Sense, use Pinky Desire (my personal favorite, clean and simple, also gets OTA updates from ROM Manager) or Leedroid (also great, but doesn't support OTA updating, only manual installation). I could also suggest MacLite, but I don't know about how stable it is. Oh, and don't use AuraxtSense or whatever it's called, it's bloated.
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How would cyanogenmod compare with OpenDesire?
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maclite 0.8 - very basic, stripped down version of sense. but it is odexed so you can't theme it. most, if not all, bloats have been removed so i'm expecting quite good battery life. note that it doesn't support the legacy A2SD+ so you're pretty limited with the internal storage. if you're not gonna theme and not gonna install many apps, this rom will pretty much suits you.
Thanks both of you for quick reply.
It's extra needed especially since i am waiting to root my phone because I have a flight tomorrow afternoon, so wanted it rooted in airplane.
Just read features of maclite 0.8....almost had nerd-gasm reading this:
Removed space and battery wasting applications/widgets are (see posting #2 below on how to restore):
- AppSharing
- DCSStock
- Facebook
- FriendStream (broken since Twitters change to OAuth)
- FriendStreamWidget (broken since Twitters change to OAuth)
- Flickr
- Footprints
- FootprintsWidgets
- GenieWidget
- Google Search
- Google Talk
- HtcFacebook
- htcmailwidgets (do not work with the new Email client, use app instead of widget)
- install_flash_player (latest Flash player included instead)
- Learn More
- Maps (replaced, see below)
- NewsReader
- NewsReaderWidget
- PDFViewer
- Quickoffice
- Sim Toolkit
- SocialNetworkProvider
- Stocks
- StockWidget
- Teeter
- Twitter (broken since Twitters change to OAuth)
- TwitterWidget (broken since Twitters change to OAuth)
- VoiceSearch
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That's EXACTLY what I was looking for.
Open Desire for a non sense ROM and and Lee Driod if you decide to go Sense.
OD is my favourite ROM - No bloat, just usefulness
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so far, really liking maclite.
but can't seem to find file explorer.
looked practically everywhere!
OpenDesire's flies....(literally)
I has a phone said:
so far, really liking maclite.
but can't seem to find file explorer.
looked practically everywhere!
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You need to download/install that from the market, as all other 3rd party software.
try all the roms and choose your favourite.
personnaly i use opendesire
seeing you've just got your Desire I would suggest just using the stock rom for a while (yes, boring - but practical). The stock 2.1 rom is really pretty good and meets all of your criteria.
you can suss out what you like/don't like then choose a custom rom accordingly. all you are getting here are what other people like/use.
Hi all,
This is my first post here.
I have flashed the InsertCoin stable ROM 03/06 and I have to say it's great (despite the video playback bug). Recently I found another issue that bothers me a lot.
The problem I found is that the ROM seems to be killing non-active apps too aggressively. I learnt if I press "home" button in an active app, it should stay for a while until it is killed to free up memory. However, in my phone, the non-active apps are always killed within one minute even when the phone isn't running out of memory. Why it is an issue to me? Because:
1) It is killing the browser too fast. Usually I switched to other app, do some work, and back to the browser. Since the browser is killed it has to reload the whole page to restore the state. This wastes time and data.
2) Most importantly It is killing my music app!! I tried fire up HTC's music app, select a song, tap to play, leave the app and do other things like web surfing. The music app would surely be killed in a minute. This happens to other music playing app like Winamp.
This makes my phone a relatively single tasking one. I didn't install any 3rd party task killer because I never needed one. But I cannot find any settings regarding this "feature" on my phone.
I found people in this forum seeking help on how to kill some background apps. What I want is the opposite: How to prevent some background apps to be killed.
Anyone here has similar problem and has found a solution?
Thanks in advance!
on 1.0.8 i had no problems
on v45 (which is last 2D Rose version) you need to flash pre46test.zip in order to fix agressive app killing.
other than that i never heard of any complaints regarding apps being killed too quickly.
Thanks, dzumagos. Yes I am running 1.0.8 and unfortunately this happens on my phone
Maybe I'll try flashing the nightly version (v51) to see if things improve.
Whatever you do, don't use task managers and other memory scripts. Every developer makes his own memory parameters which suit his rom the best, so I think you are best off pointing baadnwz to this issue and see what he says.
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Whatever you do, don't use task managers and other memory scripts. Every developer makes his own memory parameters which suit his rom the best, so I think you are best off pointing baadnwz to this issue and see what he says.
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The ROM has HTC's ROM manager built in, and I didn't have any installed by myself. AFAIK the only difference between the Stable and Nightly version is the Rosie 3D homescreen that is missing in the Stable version, so I flashed 1.0.9 and unfortunately the problem persists.
And looks like I'm not eligible to ask on the development thread
Introduction.
In P350, we have little RAM, and everybody knows that. I'm constructing this thread to try maximize the performance on ICS.
The First Tip -> Gapps.
As we all know, in each version of Android, Gapps size is increased. In Froyo, Gapps like Google Maps and others really slowed the phone to the point of hacking it to improve performance. In Gingerbread, in most of ROM's, it wasn't a BIG problem. But in Ice Cream Sandwich and Jelly Bean, Gapps are landing direct hits on performance overall, because of 3 reasons:
It's size is now very BIG;
It has some unknown background apps that eats RAM;
Now the Gapps are consuming memory, CPU and GPU.
As a effect, some Devs and p350 users are searching a way to improve performance. But some problems occur in the way, like low memory RAM, discussions on thread and some others. So I'm giving the first TIP.
DO NOT USE FLASH GAPPS.
You are now asking yourself : "What the Hell are you saying Dark?"
I answer, it's very simple. Most of the Android Users (Yes, not only P350) do not use half of the installed apks. Saying by other words, Android users flash and don't use 50% or more of Gapps, so unknown apps are installed and are kept in phone. And most of the users only flash Gapps because they want them installed for nothing, without knowing what these apps are doing in background. To finish, a big part of New Android users only use Google Play. So, how we clear this?
DOWNLOAD THE DESIRED GAPPS FROM GOOGLE PLAY.
If you use some Gapps to work or any other reason, like Google Mail and Youtube, you might consider downloading then instead of flashing. But now you are asking yourself: "What is the difference?". I answer why downloading is better thant flashing them:
A great part of ROM's (if not all), do not need Gapps to work, so you can only download Google Play, setting your account on phone and start hunting the apps you use;
Because of this, you has an Greater control of deciding what app you need and want to install;
Unknown apps will not be installed on your phone;
No background apps active -> More RAM -> Better performance!
Now you have a better performance than before.
The Second Tip -> Uninstall what you don't use.
Yes, in every version of ICS the most worry of users is : "RAM is good on this ROM?", because little RAM, poor performance. In some versions, like ConnectMod betas, the RAM is very poor, according to dodo1255 . How to solve this problem?
UNINSTALL SYSTEM APPS.
Some ROM's come with unnecessary apps, and they consume your memory, both internal and RAM. To Advanced users:
Extract ROM, go to system/apps and delete manually the undesired apps.
To basic users, do this:
Download Root Uninstaller or Root Uninstaller Pro;
Open it and Search some apps that you don't use and uninstall them.
Attention: Before making anything make a Backup first! And, do not try this if you are New on Android world. If you want to do this, first search on net about this and what apps you can uninstall.
I'm not responsible for bricked devices, suicide, getting fired at your work because alarm app failed, or your mama kamikazing herself instead of jumping parachute because you didn't call her and tell what airplane to catch on airport. You decided of making these modifications. If you point your finger at me, I'll laugh of you.
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Some people just do this and get an improved performance, but if you want to go further.
The Third Tip -> Overclock and Swap.
Yep, it's a basic tip this one. But be aware of the limit of the overclocking in the respective kernel, and what's the most stable frequency on that ROM. And if you're planning Swap your ROM, do not use apps like Swapper, they do not help because they runs in background. Search and you'll find good tips on how to do it.
The Fourth Tip -> Download some optimizer apps.
Yes, i'm recomending because of other things that they can do. But do not install:
Apps that kills other apps, like task managers. They do not improve performance and really increase the number of Force Closes on your phone;
Apps that creates a big amount of cache;
You can install apps like:
Auto Memory Manager and RAM Manager Pro - Can help on improving performance;
AnTuTu CPU Master Pro - With some settings it helps on performance and battery;
Zdbox or other that cleans cache - Cleans your phone to a better level of performance.
The Fifth Tip -> Smoothing your phone in a easy manner.
This tip was suggested by gogyly.
This app, Seeder, was created by lambgx02 to reduce lags and to improve even better Any Rom. In the thread you can find more specifications.
I tested and works flawlessy, it's very good, a must-have app for us now.
Seeder
The Sixty Tip ->A GREAT Replacement for Google Play.
This tip is for those that only use Google Play when flash gapps. It's a custom market called 1Mobile Market. It's UI is like Google Play, feature the hottest apps for free (I found GTA Vice City to download here), you can log in with your google account and has a really amount of apps. I'm current using and is very good.
Link for download -> 1Mobile Market
Doubt of every ICS user ->Why my phone is having low battery fast?.
It's because of tweaks. Yeah, TWEAKS MAKE THE BATTERY LAST A FEW HOURS. I concluded this when i moved myself of ICS from my Genesis. They are almost equal on performance (with over my one reaches close , going to 2203 and ICS with stock freq. 2230). And, ironically, the two wastes battery even when i'm not using it. Result -> 1 day battery. Froyo, the more slow ROM, do not wastes battery when i'm not using it, even with overclock. Result -> 3+ day battery.
And 1 thing: Devs, do not put 2 or tweak packages on your ROM's, because some scripts was already used on other packages, making the system run 2 or more times the same script, wasting battery.
You can help on this list by suggesting some improvements that I do not listed here. If I help, press thanks.
So for Accounts syncing, Flash Gapps is not really needed? Only a account-related app, such as Gmail? Interesting... But how do I get Play Store without flashing Gapps?
dbarrera, account sync app come in some ICS roms. If not, you can download gapps and put this application on system/apps of the ROM. You can get Play Store apk file in XDA, or in others websites. If you cannot found, i have the .apk file so i can upload for you =D.
For instance, I'm testing JellyME ROM... It has Account & Sync app, but even with Gmail and Play Store (3.7.11 from a June dump, I dunno if its the latest) app installed, I can't add my Google account for it to sync Contact and Calendar data... Ideas?
Yes. Go to Settings -> Account & Sync -> Add Account, and do the step guide. First check your internet connection because it will be loggin to verify and associate your account to that phone and you're done. After all tap your account to find the options to Sync Contacts and Calendar. Hope i helped you. =D
Or use blackmart.
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Hi. I think u should try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33999592
I've used this app on kamesh ICS, and it helps reduce lag. I didn'nt test it much on ICS (rolled back to MIUI), but on MIUI GB, realy reduces lag on minimum. I'm curently on powersaving governor and all is still buttery smooth. Check out and give your opinion. Cheers!!!
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Okay I'll try using it on my new ROM and soon i'll post results =D
Had to flash Gapps (tiny-gapps) for Google related data (Contacts and Calendar) sync...
I just hope that these tiny-gapps does not come with unnecessary apps. But you can do this step: Extract gapps and extract rom. Put the desired apps on system/apps of the ROM and make a .zip file with contents. That should do the trick next time =D
Just the APKs? In the tiny-gapps also comes some libs and stuff... Probably dependencies?
Maybe ... But here in my phone it wasn't a problem. Maybe these libs modifies system and allow unknown apps or other things to run in background.
Being that the case, GoogleBackupTransport (I guess this one keeps data backed up with Google), Google[Calendar | Contacts]SyncAdapter (I guess the name says it all), GoogleLoginService (Need to login into Mothership somehow), MarketUpdater, Phonesky (Play Store), Talk (Yes, I'm guilty of using it) should be the only ones to load directly into the ROM's /system/app folder?
Yes, theorically talking. But soon some ROM's will implant the useful Gapps, so we will not have to do this work =D
If the JellyMe developer includes Google Login without Gapps (and fixes the bugs already posted on his thread), I'm sold!
And how about any tips for battery life? I've tried some ICS ROMs, they were quite smooth,all good but I didn't like the battery life, that's why I'm still using CM7. Anybody running ICS can post some battery stats? On CM7, it takes 3%/8 hours with airplane mode, but with ICS 40%!! Did I do something wrong(I mean bad kernel or flashing gapps) or is it normal with ICS? Thanks
ICS is a really battery eater because more apps are running in background. And it goes fast. You can download different battery savers and check what's the best for you.
Well that's shame,because I'd really like to use ICS(CM9),it has some good functions(killing with back button,smoother and faster than CM7). The weirdest thing is it drains the battery even in deep sleep?!
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Bender9467 said:
Well that's shame,because I'd really like to use ICS(CM9),it has some good functions(killing with back button,smoother and faster than CM7). The weirdest thing is it drains the battery even in deep sleep?!
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Don't use ICS if you cannot adapt to its functionality. Yes it has bugs, and yes, you'll be in trouble if you dont know how to make remedies.
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Don't use ICS if you cannot adapt to its functionality. Yes it has bugs, and yes, you'll be in trouble if you dont know how to make remedies.
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I don't want to be rude, because I know that there's a lot of hard, long and sometimes annoying work. I'm happy I can even flash ICS. I've just asked if there's any way to improve battery life (especially when phone is not used). I don't think that low battery life is a "functionality" which I should adapt to.