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best ROM with HTC apps and Sense Removed?

I just got my EVO and will soon root it. I can't stand the HTC ROM and all of its apps that override the regular Android apps (messaging, calendar, etc.). I would like a minimalistic ROM with all of the HTC apps and Sense removed. Can anyone recommend a good one that may also offer benefits for performance (e.g. JIT) and battery life? I'd prefer to have the Sprint apps on it, such as Sprint TV and the NFL app, but I suppose I can always add those on afterward. I also won't consider a ROM with any sorts of issues (such as broken camera). Thanks!

Just found this ROM and flashed it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706202
It's been great, seems quick and very stable. It also allows you to delete almost any app, including sense and rosie util, plus any sprint ones you want off, plus the bloat HTC stuff (peep, trimmer, footprints, etc.)
Try it out, I've been pretty happy with it.

Damage control. Its got a gui they made to remove anything you don't wasn't and profiles to save battery or go into performance mode. Its amazing I get over a day usage now

Thanks for the quick reply guys. With so many great choices, I may just have to try them all!

Questions - rooting & ROMs...

I've finally got to the stage where I am completely hacked off at having to keep uninstalling apps due to running out of space in the internal memory.
I'm hoping to do it all in one hit, and what I want is recommendation for a decent, stable ROM - I don't want to have to chop and change, reflashing ROM after ROM.
I used to do this with my old Dream, and it was fun when I had the time, but things have changed for me now and I need a reliable phone.
What I need: Apps2SD, stability
Nice to have but not essential: Better battery life (underclocked kernel?)
Dream stuff, but not at the expense of first two: Speed increase, Froyo goodies
I don't care about SenseUI one bit - in fact I've pretty much removed/replaced nearly every trace of it on my phone, by using Launcher Pro and non-Sense apps/widgets.
However, I'd like to know if it's possible to keep the text selection function contained within the standard browser on my phone? It also works the same in DolphinHD, which leads me to believe it's integrated into the Sense framework? I don't know if I can get that with Froyo though.
If I do go for a Froyo ROM, I'd like to know what won't work. I gather video recording is broken - don't care about that. Is there anything else that don't work?
Any advice or recommendations, pretty please!

If you go to the roms dev section and look at all the roms chefs have cooked you will figure out which ones you prefer and which ones you may like. The chef will either tell you what doesnt work and later if you read the comments members will provide additional feedback.
There is no 'best' rom each one has + and -

[Q] Your feelings on the new Sense

Hello all,
Whilst it hasn't been confirmed 100% that HTC Desire users will get the new Sense software as currently seen on the DesireHD - I just wanted to put across some of my opinions and ask if other feel the same way as me.
There's some DesireHD ROMs in the Desire Android Development section, which for the most part are based fully on the ROM found inside the HTC RUU, but moving most of the system applications to a EXT partition.
This means that the software itself on the phone is pretty much all of HTC's work, there's no added applications by the ROM chef.
This means, if (and that's a big if seeing as the Desire's /system partition is smaller than that of the DesireHD's) the Desire Sense 2.0 software we're apparently going to get will be very similar to the custom ROM's we're seeing now.
If this is the case, I'll be extremely disappointed by some of the direction that HTC have taken. They seem to have completely moved away from creating a better user interface for their consumers and instead, tried to find ways of making a quick buck or two.
For example:
SoundHound Trial - Installed to /system, so for those who do not root, this is uninstallable. I have Shazam with unlimited tagging due to installing it before a certain date
HTC Locations - A link to enabling Premium Navigation from Route66
AmazonMP3 - Tied into the music player
So I assume they have some deals in place with the developers / owners of these services, so they get some investment for distributing this software with their phones?
I don't want my ROM to be infested with trial ware, I bought my HTC Desire SIM free so I've given them my bloody money.
Okay, so I can remove these easily as I do root my phones and know my way around ADB but I just don't like the fact HTC are doing this after how clean the WWE ROM for the HTC Desire was.
Does anyone share the same opinion or see where I'm coming from?

I'm sure all users would feel the same way as you do if HTC only included some trial-ware stuff. But this is hardly the case. The new Sense has a lot of significant improvements. Just to name a few:
-pinch in browser to access tabs.
-new interface in Mail (allows you to quickly select multiple messages to action)
-new widgets
-offline maps
-HTCsense.com
-fast boot
-themes
etc
Now, if those included softwares actually get in the way of the day-to-day operations of the phone, then sure, users would be pissed. For example, in the US, there are Android phones sold where it forces the user to use Bing for search and maps. HTC certainly doesn't force you onto those apps. You can choose to ignore them if you wish.
Sometimes, you just got to weigh the benefits with the drawbacks. I personally don't like having trialware on my phone. But the advantages of the new ROM far outweighs the minor inconvenience of me having to ignore the trial stuff...

I haven't had a chance to look into the new sense much (but i like the sound of the htcsense.com stuff) - but I would find it annoying having trialware that can't be removed - whenever I get a new laptop the first thing to go is all the junk (usually by a fresh re-install of the OS in some cases!)
at least with a PC it can be removed - I'm hoping that any extra junk that is installed can be ignored as the new features of Sense 2.0 seem nice!

I agree with the OP on this. First of all the Desire has a very limited internal memory. They wanted to cut costs on that and now they realize 512MB is not enough for everything and have increased it for Desire Z and HD. Thanks to all the mods here we are able to root and move some portion of rom to sd giving us more freedom to install apps.
Loading the system partition with bloat/crapware like this is going to bring down the useful data partition size and making it uninstallable makes me go what the *&^%
I paid my money and so "I" should decide what app are installed in my phone not "them" making those crapwares uninstallable is not good at all... they didnt give the phone for free or @ discounted rate...
Including trialwares is one thing... but making them non-removable completely puts me off. Being locked out of doing what I want with my device is what made me hate Apple... Android is open.. users do what they want or like.. it must be kept that way..

[Q] Minimalistic/bare android rom for DHD

Hi,
i am a proud new owner of a DHD, which is also my first android device. As with Windows Mobile before, i don't like the HTC Sense at all. I am also very disappointed with all the bloatware (aka trash) like Amazon MP3, Facebook, SoundHound, ... on this high class 450 Euro device. This all leads me to the following question:
Which ROM out there has as less modifications as possible or is the closest to a vanilla Android from Google?
So no
- Sense/other UI modifications
- HTC "dialer"
- (Animated) Themes
- Twitter, Facebook, Amazon
- Example Videos, pictures, MP3
A bit of e.g. battery tweaking would also be welcomed
Many thanks for your (hopefully numerous) suggestions.

Cyanogenmod 6(froyo) or 7(gingerbread)
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

Flussen is correct either CM6 for Froyo or CM7 for Gingerbread. Both are great ROMs.

Personally i would recommend flashing ARHD, with no-sense and rom cleaner.
It gets rid of nearly all the Sense stuff except that which is useful, specifically the rext selection mechanic, copy and paste implementation and the app switching from the notification bar.
Those 3 functions are the sole reason im sticking with a "sense" rom.
You will end up with a pretty vanilla experience if you go with that option, save for the above 3 points.

I'd say the latest CM7 nightly and mad murdocks battery fix patch. Happy flashing

Try LeeDroid 2.2.2 with nosense-patch.
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Vispe85 said:
I'd say the latest CM7 nightly and mad murdocks battery fix patch. Happy flashing
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i agree, currently on Spike CM7 build 22
this is what you want

Thanks for all your support. With the help of our replies i decided to try CM7 and flashed CleanDHD v1.00 - CM7n23. Everything works flawlessly and i am much more happy as with the Stock ROM + Sense. The only thing i don't like about it is the "190dpi for the true HD look" feature, as i find the fonts unnecessarily tiny (e.g. Command buttons with 95% free space in them and only the tiny "Next" Text in the middle).
As it seems to be impossible to change the font size/DPI on the system, is there any ROM similar to CleanDHD, but with the standard fonts?
Edit:
I found out that you can set the DPI to any value in the file /system/build.prop inside the .zip of the ROM before flashing. I hereby withdraw my abovementioned newbie question.

[Q] Some ROM advice would be appreciated

I bought my first Android device - a HTC Desire Z - about 2 months ago in China and it came with a goapk ROM. I believe it included HTC Sense 2.x functionality, but I didn't want the Chinese customisations and I also wanted root access. So after a couple of weeks I rooted it using the gfree procedure and I ended up with CM7.0.
However there is some functionality missing from CM7.0 that HTC Sense provided.
• The camera app doesn't allow manual subject selection for focussing or half press and hold of shutter button to freeze light settings. A red eye reduction flash mode would also be useful.
• I can't find a map app that provides offline map viewing.
• The default music player doesn't support wma files – but I've since resolved this issue with PowerAMP.
• I’m not sure what it was, but the keyboard that came with the goapk was pretty nice and also had Chinese character OCR.
So, I'm thinking that I'd like to try an HTC ROM with Sense but still retain root access. So I have a few general questions.
What version of HTC Sense does the latest Gingerbread ROMs on shipped-roms.com use? (I’ve just downloaded RUU_Vision_Gingerbread_S_HTC_WWE_2.42.405.2_Radio_12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03_M_release_199043_signed ) Has HTC updated the shipped Desire Z ROM to Sense 3.x, or do I need to use a Virtuous Unity ROM?
Could someone briefly tell me what functional differences there are between the WWE (World Wide English), Asia and TW ROMs available at shipped-roms.com?
After having used CM7.x, is the installation procedure for an HTC shipped ROM straight forward? Anything I need to be careful about, like pre-installing a HTC bootloader or the Desire Z HBoot for example?
Can custom ROMs like Virtuous Unity be used with the HTC Sync PC application?
Thanks. Any further advice would be appreciated.

CM7 is quite buggy, I got tired of issues with GPS, wifi-calling, etc. and finally switched over to Virtuous ROMs and all of the glitches went away, they have a good sense ROM and also a good stock ROM with mild overclocking and bloatware removed called G-lite 1.03
I won't let a CM-based ROM anywhere near my phone, and most ROM's are CM7 based
and yes, all Virtuous ROMs work fine with HTC-Sync and PC communications

WTF? said:
CM7 is quite buggy, I got tired of issues with GPS, wifi-calling, etc. and finally switched over to Virtuous ROMs and all of the glitches went away, they have a good sense ROM and also a good stock ROM with mild overclocking and bloatware removed called G-lite 1.03
I won't let a CM-based ROM anywhere near my phone, and most ROM's are CM7 based
and yes, all Virtuous ROMs work fine with HTC-Sync and PC communications
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You just gonna bash CM7 in every thread?
OP, I'd never recommend against a ROM. I'd just advocate more for one or the other. I think if you want Sense, you're one of those people who just want Sense, and there are good options out there as far as Virtuous (and others) go. You can always try others and make ROM manager backups to switch between them too.
- As far as the Camera, that's a gripe people have (i'm not a huge camera user). Try MIUI camera, its got a big set of new features and is just an .apk you can add to AOSP ROMs.
- Google Maps lets you cache map data in a certain area. Long press on an area and you can select to download a 10mi radius of the current point. You can do this as many times as you want to cache a whole state if you'd like (it'll just take up a lot of storage room).
- I'm not sure about int'l keyboards... you'll have to look into that one. You'll probably have to install a language pack.
DON'T install a RUU or shipped ROM. that will unroot your device. You need to install a custom pre-rooted ROM, most people who want Sense like to use Virtuous. I'd also look at a few of the other options. Like I said above, you can switch around till you find what you want.

You just gonna bash CM7 in every thread?
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Yes, buggy ROMs get on my nerves, this isn't 2 weeks after the G2 was released to the public, it's more like a year or more, and a ROM ought to be mature by then, and at least do the basics without glitches. (camera, wifi calling, GPS, reception, etc.)
I am very appreciative of great work, but just like with cell phones themselves, I have no tolerance for crappy quality control (this is why I own HTC phones and not some Motorola POS)
No one ever accused me of being politically correct

WTF? said:
Yes, buggy ROMs get on my nerves, this isn't 2 weeks after the G2 was released to the public, it's more like a year or more, and a ROM ought to be mature by then, and at least do the basics without glitches. (camera, wifi calling, GPS, reception, etc.)
I am very appreciative of great work, but just like with cell phones themselves, I have no tolerance for crappy quality control (this is why I own HTC phones and not some Motorola POS)
No one ever accused me of being politically correct
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There are fixes for the "problems" that you seem to find in cm7. Changing your radio will fix ur gps, improve your signal and battery life (I get about 24 hours on a single charge). Wifi calling works fine for me, has since cm7rc1 was out. My camera is amazing, I use it to capture important moments with my children everyday (stock, miui, paper, 360, funpro... these cameras all work flawlessly for me).
I guess the problems you have are with your setup, and since your defeatist attitude has you at a brick wall, it's obvious you'll never get anywhere in the android community. If cm7 was SO buggy, why would me, my wife, my brother, my mom, 3 of my co-workers, and thousands of people around the world (all on g2/dz's) be so satisfied?
Maybe I'm biased cuz I've loved cyanogen since cm4.0.4 on the g1. I learned a lot with it back then, and I apply that knowledge when rooting/flashing/optimizing mine or anyone else's phone today. I bet you'd have complained to no end that you couldn't get a2sd working on cm4.0.4. You just need to ask politely and not troll. The answers are there.
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Thank you martonikaj,
I'll give Virtuous Unity a try.
I've also now found the modified Google Maps apps that enables caching to SD card have been posted by brut.all here and stan230 here. Any recommendation as to which of these is the best?
I'll also give the MIUI camera app a try, or possibly buy Camera ZOOM FX.
Most helpful, thank you.

hope2u said:
Thank you martonikaj,
I'll give Virtuous Unity a try.
I've also now found the modified Google Maps apps that enables caching to SD card have been posted by brut.all here and stan230 here. Any recommendation as to which of these is the best?
I'll also give the MIUI camera app a try, or possibly buy Camera ZOOM FX.
Most helpful, thank you.
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I wasn't aware you needed a modified Google Maps app? The stock one allows me to cache map data to my SDcard... I'm working on the latest GAPPS package , and I think Google Maps has been OTA updated probably once or twice since then.

hope2u said:
I've also now found the modified Google Maps apps that enables caching to SD card
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You don't need a modded Google Maps to cache to SD. Its a standard feature of Maps. In Maps, just go to Menu>More>Labs, and activate "Pre-cache map area". Then when you long press on the map, the address will popup, click on the address, and you will see the option to cache the map area.

Try using the rom ILWT cm7 it has a built in oc daemin so it saves battery and you have the latest features since he updates every important nightlie
So you should give it a try!
Stewie just said that!

GPS software with maps on card
If you are serious about GPS navigation, and you want to carry full maps and have lots of memory card space to spare, you can buy an app like Sygic GPS ( http://www.sygic.com/en/android ). Then you can use whatever roms you want.
There are other apps out there that do the same thing, but this is what I used to run, and I had no issues with it.