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[Q] Split BRAVOC and GSM SubForums

Dear Mods,
Can we get a split DESIRE CDMA and GSM subforum.
As I have painfully found out, flashing GSM rom versions to a CDMA desire is NOT PRETTY, LOL
I spent hours last night trying to get my device to a workable state before realizing in my haste that there are GSM and CDMA desires.
This is a humble request to split the forums for fear of others making the same silly errors I have made.
Thanks for listening guys.

tramane said:
Dear Mods,
Can we get a split DESIRE CDMA and GSM subforum.
As I have painfully found out, flashing GSM rom versions to a CDMA desire is NOT PRETTY, LOL
I spent hours last night trying to get my device to a workable state before realizing in my haste that there are GSM and CDMA desires.
This is a humble request to split the forums for fear of others making the same silly errors I have made.
Thanks for listening guys.
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Mods...? Anyone?
I see a lot of views and no responses.
Am I the only one that has this concern?
If I am, lol, its all good

You are not alone but this has been already suggested, and I'm not sure that it will be done :/
See this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801301
And as AndroHero pointed out, it's not here that you should make this suggestion.

I agree also, we need separate sections for GSM and CDMA devices, it would be less confusing for people.

When the CDMA Desire came out, there were a lot of suggestions on the requests to admin forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276306&page=113
Nothing ever came of it obviously but they seem to be a little more willing to add forums/subforums lately. It could be worth another push on that forum.

tramane said:
Dear Mods,
Can we get a split DESIRE CDMA and GSM subforum.
As I have painfully found out, flashing GSM rom versions to a CDMA desire is NOT PRETTY, LOL
I spent hours last night trying to get my device to a workable state before realizing in my haste that there are GSM and CDMA desires.
This is a humble request to split the forums for fear of others making the same silly errors I have made.
Thanks for listening guys.
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i think you may have more luck lf you just ask for a dedicated cdma android development section rather that a whole sub formum, desire general and q&a could remain both gsm and cdma

Desire GSM CDMA subforum
I don't know if this helps but as far as I know the US is the only country that runs CDMA. Therefore when I see a rom posted by someone from another country I then assume that it is a GSM rom and do not dl it.

you are incorrect sir,the asia pacific region has more cdma subscribers than the united states.
http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/index.asp
for the purposes of this forum however; your method works.
DevilDogAK said:
I don't know if this helps but as far as I know the US is the only country that runs CDMA. Therefore when I see a rom posted by someone from another country I then assume that it is a GSM rom and do not dl it.
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Radio flashing -- why is it so risky (i.e. bricking) ?

Hi Everyone,
As an individual that has recently migrated from the Hero forums where radio flashes are recommended on a willy nilly basis to "solve" common problems (such as GPS or wifi issues), I have to ask, why is the attitude on the opposite side of the spectrum here? I'm open to technical explanations or anything else that may be relevant.
On the Hero side of things, I noticed that most bricks were products of user error. Considering that HTC released both a GSM and CDMA version of the device (and naming them exactly the same), many unsuspecting users would brick by flashing a CDMA radio on a GSM Hero. In other cases, impatient users would pull the battery during the flashing process -- all while unaware of the consequences.
So, I'd like to hear different opinions on this seemingly contentious issue (as I do see users recommending radio flashes in light of the warnings from developers to not touch the radio at all).
Thank you.

Anybody recommending flashing radios on a "willy nilly basis" are flippin' retards. Doesn't matter if your phone is a 32A (Hero/Magic), 32B (Dream/Magic), or a Vision.
The risks are as follows;
1) An incorrect or incomplete flash WILL render the hardware "bricked".
2) A radio that is incompatible with the hardware or the SPL *WILL* render the hardware "bricked".
Go into the DREAM forums and count just how many people bricked their phones due to something really stupid, like incompatibility with the SPL.... there is always a chance that a new radio will be incompatible with an old SPL. Especially since there are FOUR DIFFERENT SPLs available for Vision.... US/International shipping SPLs, US/International ENGINEERING SPLs. Note that the ENGINEERING SPLs carry older version numbers than the SHIPPING SPLs, so new radios will NOT be made to have compatibility with engineering SPLs in mind.

Is there someone out there that can help clarify the proper way to determine the correct radio for each Desire Z that is out there? This would be the biggest help to all. Education of the proper procedure and the correct radios to use would be more of an asset than having everone scare each other with tales of the bricked phone! If we had an accurate listing for each phone with the MD5 of the files involved there would not be nearly as many bricked phones. I have no doubts the Mods would sticky it for us also.
This is a site that we all come to to learn and I am sure we all enjoy experimenting with our phones and want to do it as safely as possible.
I currently use an Inspire 4g and it took me 7 radios before I found the one that worked to my satisfaction with the rom I am using in the area of the world that I live in. I found it, now I leave it alone.
Why am I putting my .02 in you may ask? I am waiting for a desire Z that I bought on ebay to arrive so I can experiment with it as a spare phone. I just sold 2 Captivates that were spares to get the DZ. I would love to have an accurate source of information that I can further my own education.
I do not have the knowledge to do this or I would but I am sure there are some people that are a lot more intellegent than I that can.
Sorry to be so long winded but I wanted to make sure I did not come across sounding pushy. Just a thought to help all concerned.

SNadler said:
Is there someone out there that can help clarify the proper way to determine the correct radio for each Desire Z that is out there? This would be the biggest help to all. Education of the proper procedure and the correct radios to use would be more of an asset than having everone scare each other with tales of the bricked phone! If we had an accurate listing for each phone with the MD5 of the files involved there would not be nearly as many bricked phones. I have no doubts the Mods would sticky it for us also.
This is a site that we all come to to learn and I am sure we all enjoy experimenting with our phones and want to do it as safely as possible.
I currently use an Inspire 4g and it took me 7 radios before I found the one that worked to my satisfaction with the rom I am using in the area of the world that I live in. I found it, now I leave it alone.
Why am I putting my .02 in you may ask? I am waiting for a desire Z that I bought on ebay to arrive so I can experiment with it as a spare phone. I just sold 2 Captivates that were spares to get the DZ. I would love to have an accurate source of information that I can further my own education.
I do not have the knowledge to do this or I would but I am sure there are some people that are a lot more intellegent than I that can.
Sorry to be so long winded but I wanted to make sure I did not come across sounding pushy. Just a thought to help all concerned.
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Every phone sold in regular mobile phone shops on this earth is provided with the correct radio for the region where it is sold. As in a closed box with EMEI numbers and all the stuff on it. If you live in the outback of Australia and buy (through Ebay) a phone originated for Estonia then you could be in for a surprise.

HLeenders said:
Every phone sold in regular mobile phone shops on this earth is provided with the correct radio for the region where it is sold. As in a closed box with EMEI numbers and all the stuff on it. If you live in the outback of Australia and buy (through Ebay) a phone originated for Estonia then you could be in for a surprise.
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That is exactly my point.
There are a lot of people that for one reason or another WILL change their radio. Why not make it so all that do are educated on the proper way to do it and have a correct listing of the proper radio for each device with the coresponding MD5 to minimize the issues? Is this not part of what xda is all about? IMHO it will help all concerned.

SNadler said:
That is exactly my point.
There are a lot of people that for one reason or another WILL change their radio. Why not make it so all that do are educated on the proper way to do it and have a correct listing of the proper radio for each device with the coresponding MD5 to minimize the issues? Is this not part of what xda is all about? IMHO it will help all concerned.
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It is here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970809

[Q] Suggestion for making HTC Desire CDMA/GSM in seperate threads

Ever since I got this phone when it came out in the US I came on here and all I was seeing was GSM this and that. Now its even harder to find anything.
I used to work on phones with the help with the XDA forums. since last year I haven't found crap..well not much to get anywhere.
Just a suggestion.
I believe HTC Desire in the UK hit number one beating the iPhone so yes this phone is very popular and I really think there should be two threads for GSM Phones only and CDMA Phones only.
I spent hours on here and really didn't come up with anything that would help because by the time i finish reading it says for GSM phones only. URGH!!

I'm working on a CDMA Megathread, because it will hopefully bring in more development to our phones.

Thank you very much. I'm sure others will appreciate it as well.

Jereso said:
I'm working on a CDMA Megathread, because it will hopefully bring in more development to our phones.
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So I'm assuming it's a no go?
I just want to root my phone. I'll keep reading more.

Nevermind I think I found what I need to read that you posted
[CDMA][TUTORIAL SET]CDMA Desire Informational Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182853

[Mod request]New forum for cdma WFS

There seems to be a lot of confusion going on between the gsm and cdma versions of the Wildfire S, and people are causing big problems for themselves by not reading(or cant read), plus its also a headache for other users trying to pick thru useless information to get what they need. Maybe a little to late, but is there anyway to split this forum up?

Good idea, was thinking of the same thing to do.
The forum can be split, I've done it on PHPBB3, I don't know whether it works on VBulletin (Isn't that what this forum uses? Correct me if i'm wrong.)

Thirded, would help stop stupid people (like myself) from bricking their phones by flashing the wrong ROM ;_;

I agree, this should be done. I too bricked my first wildfire s after trying to use the "stock roms" listed in the stickied thread at the top of this forum. Stuff in that post is kinda mixed, or mislabeled, or even unlabeled. I don't recall seeing anything about GSM only roms on the few I looked at, but there is a chance I did over look it.
but yes, Wildfire S CDMA thread split!!!!

Idea is gold. Already quasi-bricked one phone

Good idea, will save a lot of hassle and money, in some cases.

sounds like a plan!!!

This is a good idea, even more so bc it appears that a lot of people have jumped on the holiday deals for the Virgin mobile WFS. Please split this thread!

GotsOJ said:
This is a good idea, even more so bc it appears that a lot of people have jumped on the holiday deals for the Virgin mobile WFS. Please split this thread!
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I'm one of those folks but at least I already own an Android tablet so rooting, etc. wasn't a new concept. But since I already lost 5 bucks (not very much I know) purchasing a case for the "other" Wildfire S instead of the Virgin Mobile one I think it's a great idea.
Related question: I searched but perhaps didn't use the correct magic combination of search terms. Is there a thread somewhere that explains the differences between the different versions of the phone? Things like size, location of ports that sort of thing so my case problem will never happen again?
Sent from my HTC Flyer P512 using Tapatalk

bsoplinger said:
I'm one of those folks but at least I already own an Android tablet so rooting, etc. wasn't a new concept. But since I already lost 5 bucks (not very much I know) purchasing a case for the "other" Wildfire S instead of the Virgin Mobile one I think it's a great idea.
Related question: I searched but perhaps didn't use the correct magic combination of search terms. Is there a thread somewhere that explains the differences between the different versions of the phone? Things like size, location of ports that sort of thing so my case problem will never happen again?
Sent from my HTC Flyer P512 using Tapatalk
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The virgin mobile one is called A510c which is a CDMA phone. As you know, CDMA phones don't have a sim card slot. I'm not quite sure about the A510a version. A510b has a slower processor as compared to the A510e which has a 600MHz processor.
Hope this helped!
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I agree with this tread.

In Favor
I would concur. Much like Hero and Hero CDMA or other variants. I tried to port the Euro version over to the CDMA side last night. No working touchscreen; which, sucks when it boots up to a lockscreen Anyway, the devices are quite different.
Rob

Getting my Verizon Nexus next week, how interchangeable are the ROMs?

As far as rooting and flashing go, how compatible are the ROMs? I'm assuming a GSM ROM wouldn't work on the CDMA phone, but are they equally supported? Do devs make ROMs that work on both devices? I don't think I've ever had a phone with both CDMA and GSM versions widely used.
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Sent from my Droid Bionic.

Quite a few of the roms have cdma and GSM versions
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Are the downloads separate or can the same ROM be flashed on both devices? Looking at the dev section, I don't see a whole lot of ROMs with two download links even though some of them mention the LTE version.

TheBiles said:
Are the downloads separate or can the same ROM be flashed on both devices? Looking at the dev section, I don't see a whole lot of ROMs with two download links even though some of them mention the LTE version.
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There are two Dev Forum links. One for GSM and one for VZW cdma phones only. Check the Verizon Dev forum for the cdma specific ROMS. The GSM came out earlier so the development is lagging a bit behind for the Verizon phone.

Please don't flash a GSM ROM on your Verizon device or vice versa. But, then, you're (hopefully) just asking if your favorite GSM ROMs have CDMA counterparts... In that case I can only suggest browsing the CDMA development section...
Terminators run on Android...

Chopstix9 said:
There are two Dev Forum links. One for GSM and one for VZW cdma phones only. Check the Verizon Dev forum for the cdma specific ROMS. The GSM came out earlier so the development is lagging a bit behind for the Verizon phone.
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Ahhhhh, did not notice this. I added the original forum to my favorites so long ago, and I wasn't aware of its counterpart! Now things make sense.