[Q] Apps starting themselves? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok so I got the new EVO, jumped ship from my iphone...so far loving the evo, just waiting for the 2.2 rooting...but the question I have is I downloading the advanced task killer app, and then I kill app and running services, I will go back and check about 15 mins later, and there are apps running that I didn't even open...sprint nav, facebook, qik, network monitor, and I kill them, and then again they will be there about 30mins later, even other too...so how can you stop that?

codyh325 said:
Ok so I got the new EVO, jumped ship from my iphone...so far loving the evo, just waiting for the 2.2 rooting...but the question I have is I downloading the advanced task killer app, and then I kill app and running services, I will go back and check about 15 mins later, and there are apps running that I didn't even open...sprint nav, facebook, qik, network monitor, and I kill them, and then again they will be there about 30mins later, even other too...so how can you stop that?
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simply speaking - you can't unless you're rooted. The best thing you can do is to make sure that they're not syncing or updating. I would also recommend dumping the task killer - you're probably wasting more battery and cpu trying to keep things killed than what they would be using on thier own - and they're just going to keep coming back anyway. If they're not syncing or updating in the background, the amount of battery and cpu they're using is negligible.
edit - oh yeah, searching will give you the same info I gave you and more.

+1 about the task killer. It worked for eclair (2.1), but interferes with Froyo. I would uninstall it.
If you are concerned about battery life, try Juice Defender from the market. Works great!
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Phone gets stuck in "upload mode"

Been having a weird issue with my phone lately. I'm rooted, s-off, running stock 2.2, no custom kernel.
Lately what will happen is my phones 3G won't work for loading pages, apps, streaming video as it'll be stuck "uploading". By that I mean the upstream arrow will either stay lit or blink. I've tried to pin point an app that would be doing it with no success. It'll do it for a minute sometimes two then work normally. Seems to happen most often when I wake the phone. Any thoughts?
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Hmm, sounds like it might be some app, or service phoning home and hanging. Try using a process manager app to see if you can detect which apps and services are running when your phone is doing that. Try killing all nonessential services, then see if the condition persists. If no, then reactivate one service at a time until it does. If the problem persists after killing all nonessential services, have a look at running processes, and kill any that seem suspicious. Once you know which app, service l, or process is the offending party, try uninstalling the related app.
Hope that's helpful.
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I'll give that a try. Thanks.
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So after a few weeks of trying, killing apps or processes does nothing to stop the issue. Its very random when it happens and when it does I can do nothing that uses 3G.
Anyone else have an idea?
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Is there an app that will show what's using my network in real time? Not a stats app but actual, current usage.
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Could it be PRL and location based? Starting to get real frustrating.
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Sorry you're still having trouble
Hi Phaded,
Sorry that my suggestion yielded no positive results for you. If you've killed all non-essential services and processes, and it's still appears to be "uploading," something is definitely not right. I don't think it's PRL, but I personally don't know enough about how the radio works to say for sure.
At this point, you could try a different ROM. If you don't already have it, I recommend ROM Manager root. It's totally worth the $ and is available on Android Market. It makes trying different ROMs really easy.
Trying a new ROM would also effectively reinstall your radio, which might do the trick. Before you flash a new ROM, do a nandroid backup from recovery, and backup your apps with Titanium Backup, which is another must-have, IMO.
If all else fails, RMA? It could be hardware... A genius with this stuff I am not, but I have beaten my head against many a wall..
Good luck!
I installed Virtuous 3.1 last night and so far so good. Going to keep an eye out for the rest if the day so hopefully it is fixed.
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24 hours and no issue with it. This was a multiple time a day occurrence so safe to say it resolved itself.
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Congrats Phaded!
Welcome to the ranks of the Virtuous! Glad to hear it's resolved.
Now you've got ROM Manager, you can safely try a host of different ROMs and themes. I recommend the Revolutions theme on top of Virtuous - it's very pretty.
Best,
MaurLife
Having same "stuck in upload mode" issue
I have a non-rooted, stock G2 (from T-Mobile) running Android 2.2.
Every day, as many as twenty or thirty times per day, the phone gets stuck in "upload" mode. The data icon shows that data is uploading (or trying to) and I am unable to use any data-related services (whether tethered or on the phone itself). When it happens it can last anywhere from 10 seconds to 5 minutes. The only way I can forcibly stop it is to completely shut down the radio by toggling airplane mode off then on, forcing the phone to reacquire a data signal.
I've tried resetting the phone, deleting every app, reinserting the SIM card, and even formatting the SD card. Nothing seems to work to solve the issue.
My two main concerns are that 1) I can't reliably download apps, check mail, send pics/videos, or other data-related processes. 2) I'm concerned that if something IS uploading, it may be uploading a LOT and adding to my 5GB per month throttle-cap on T-Mobile.
I've ended every endable process, and killed or uninstalled every app possible (I can't seem to remove bloatware without rooting, which I'm not yet eager to do as this phone is less than 60 days old, and I'm otherwise happy with it as is).
Any suggestions or recent information as to why this is occurring?

internet draining alot of cpu and memory.

Only have one window open and my internet seems to be draining alot of memory and cpu usage and setting of my watchdog. How do i stop it? Recently cleared all the cache and cookies.
I would also like to know if I find anything out I'll let you know but in the mean time I think it depends on what you are viewing like facebook is an extremely large site with a lot of traffic.
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Only have one window open and my internet seems to be draining alot of memory and cpu usage and setting of my watchdog. How do i stop it? Recently cleared all the cache and cookies.
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are you positive it is your internet. many process and apss run in the background so just because you only have internet open at the moment does not mean it is the internet for sure causing the problem.
what watchdog message is comign up when it goes off?
What browser are you using
are you using 3g or 4g
do you always have mobile data (3g or 4g depending on what you are using when the drain is happening) on?
Do yo have a process monitering app such as system panel?
I am going to assume you ahvent gone to that detail yet. I highly recommend getting the paid verion of system moniter if you are having this kind of issue as it lets you run a history of the top apps using cpu/power. it also lets you see a nice battey graph and shows you all process running wether they are active or inactive and how much cpu time they are using.
It makes diagnosing these kinds of problems much easier.
Stop using the internet. This should solve the problem.
Seriously though. Browsing the web with your EVO does all the things that suck the most battery. Graphics, 3G, 4G, Wifi.
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are you positive it is your internet. many process and apss run in the background so just because you only have internet open at the moment does not mean it is the internet for sure causing the problem.
what watchdog message is comign up when it goes off?
What browser are you using
are you using 3g or 4g
do you always have mobile data (3g or 4g depending on what you are using when the drain is happening) on?
Do yo have a process monitering app such as system panel?
I am going to assume you ahvent gone to that detail yet. I highly recommend getting the paid verion of system moniter if you are having this kind of issue as it lets you run a history of the top apps using cpu/power. it also lets you see a nice battey graph and shows you all process running wether they are active or inactive and how much cpu time they are using.
It makes diagnosing these kinds of problems much easier.
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It happens in both 3g and 4g. Watch dog pops up and says internet usage is at 71% would u like to close it? I say yes.
I have systsm panel lite...sometimes it works but alot of time it doesnt. Your most common apps just reopen up it seems like. Thank you for your help.
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Stop using the internet. This should solve the problem.
Seriously though. Browsing the web with your EVO does all the things that suck the most battery. Graphics, 3G, 4G, Wifi.
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Ahhh this is the answer i was looking for ( fart noise ). Pay$ 40 extra a month for internet usage and to be told not to use it. Thats like buying toilet paper and never wiping your ass.

[Q] Maps starting by its own!

Hi, it's me again
I do use a taskmanager but let it close itself too when killing the tasks. Now it happens often that I see Maps running. But I don't used it for about w days! How is it that it runs by its own?
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This is normal. Some apps tend to start when you have an internet connection or after some time. This is perfectly normal and simply how Android / Sense works.
I think I had the same problem with you on one of the days.
Restart your phone and it should be fine.
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I think I had the same problem with you on one of the days.
Restart your phone and it should be fine.
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Even after a reboot I have Apps running and starting all by their own. I kill them with the taskmanager and one or two hours later they run again
Going on my nerves a little. Sometimes like 10 Apps are running but I never used them since last reboot. It kills the battery for no reason
If they run with connected data, is there a tool to make times when the data connection is cut off? Like the apn on off tool but with a clock to time it?
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Like I already said before, this is how Android works. Killing the apps with a task killer is pointless because they open again some time later, consuming power while doing so. You are better off without any task killers at all.
As for the switching off data, Tasker from the Market should be able to do it.
you could try clearing data/cache from google maps, locations and any other map based apps. other option is uncheck the background data or in locations option uncheck both find postion by network/gps (but not really good option). i think you must have a app with is using your location/maps and why it keeps getting started an been used. download spareparts (if you don't want to download app type *#*#4636#*#* into phone >battery history) and have a look in gps usage and network usage to find out.

[Guide] battery fix

Well I was having horrible battery problems and came across a how to on the web and thought I would share this. Hopefully it hasn't been shared already and I apologize if it has. Its a way to wipe battery stats. MAKE SURE YOUR BATTERY IS AT 100% BEFORE DOING THIS
1. Boot into cwm recovery
2. Scroll to advanced
3. Scroll to clear battery stats
4. Reboot phone
5. wait for your battery to fully die before charging it again
And there you go its a pretty simple fix and is good if you have flashed a lot of roms. The guide said not to do it very often tho so I would be cautious but I did it once and now I am getting almost a day and a half with moderate use out of my stock battery! I have seen a lot of complaints about battery life.
Hope this helps let me know your results as I am new here
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Yeah, this has been shared before. Good info, though.
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Wiping battery stats doesn't do anything beneficial - http://www.androidcentral.com/wiping-battery-stats-doesnt-improve-battery-life-says-google-engineer
After doing some research I did see that on androidcentral but can't wiping the stats when your on a new rom improve how your phone reports the battery stats as well?
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style154 said:
After doing some research I did see that on androidcentral but can't wiping the stats when your on a new rom improve how your phone reports the battery stats as well?
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If on a new ROM, you probably wiped /data, meaning... no more battery stats.
While I'm not sure if wiping the battery stats works or not, I just posted the following in the thread of the ROM I'm currently using since battery life is a big topic there. This is a guide that I came up with after a couple of weeks of analysis and tweaks:
I'm getting at least 48 hours on my battery now, no lie. I've made it a mission over the past couple of weeks to track down all my wakelocks and get rid of all the unnecessary processes that cause those wakelocks.
After 2+ weeks of analysis using a combo of betterbattery stats, badass battery monitor, and the stock battery info, here's a list of what I've done along with running TDJ's Evo3v7 Rom.
DISCLAIMER: These are my findings for my phone and my setup in my location and my typical usage which have worked for me:
-Make sure screen brightness is set to 'Automatic'
-Use Wifi as much as possible Vs data.
-From what I've read Facebook uses a ton of battery (wakelocks) when syncing in the background. I may be the only person on earth that doesn't have a fb account so I don't have to worry about it on my phone, but just keep that in mind.
-Under Accounts and Sync try to funnel as many accounts as you can THROUGH gmail. In your Gmail account sync only what you need when you need it. Do you really need the browser, contacts, web albums, etc synced. Can you live with manually syncing calendar once a day? Keep it to a minimum.
-Disable everything under Settings > Sound > System (the 4 items at the bottom of that list, keytones, touchsounds, screen lock sound, vibrate on screen tap)
-Make sure if you have a weather app that refreshes automatically to only have it refresh to what you need. Some of these refresh every 15min. Really? Just have it refresh manually or on unlock. I've found that to be fine.
-Make sure you're signed out of Latitude after you use it - if you use it. You can't freeze, uninstall etc, without freezing/uninstaling Maps, so make sure you are not signed into Latitude (or any other location service based apps).
-Location, location, location... Under Settings > Location Services uncheck all 3 options... may need a reboot to 'stick' after unchecking (these are sometimes checked by default when first booting up your device from flashing a ROM or you check them not knowing what all they do (I know I did at first). They are helpful when restoring but are a pain on the battery in daily use. This choice is yours as there are other recovery/restore methods but I've found that I don't need these checked at all. (Sometimes even going to Google.com enables the location service and it gets stuck in perpetual wake state, I've found).
-If you don't use Google Talk, simply remove it. Although I've found that 'GTALK_...' still has wake states even with it removed (phone still communicates with Google servers even when the app is removed), it's not near as much as it used to be.
-Freeze the Maps app - if it's feasible. Maps is one app that runs 100% of the time. Take a look in your 'running apps' and see for yourself. I rarely use my maps so I froze it. Since then, location services processes have dropped dramatically as have my wakelocks associated with location. This alone has helped out my battery tons. If I need to use maps, I simply unfreeze it.
-Finally, download and flash this by eugene373: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...30&postcount=1 This has saved me more battery than most of the things listed above combined.
Hmm your link to Eugene's thread didn't work. But thanks for the info. And I guess that does make sense that wiping data would also wipe battery stats. That's why I'm a little confused about half the people say it works and the other half say it does so I figured I'd try it out
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I think he means this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739457
Holyman007 said:
I think he means this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739457
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Thank you. So will this replace any battery saving app like juice defender?
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style154 said:
Thank you. So will this replace any battery saving app like juice defender?
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no that wont replace it, but adding the 2 together likely will improve battery even more.
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no that wont replace it, but adding the 2 together likely will improve battery even more.
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Awesome. I downloaded your file Eugene and flashed it is it already working or do I have to move it to my system file using astro?
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style154 said:
Awesome. I downloaded your file Eugene and flashed it is it already working or do I have to move it to my system file using astro?
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as long as it has init.d support, it should be working
Ok well I ran the script I will report back on of that works. Thanks again Eugene!
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While I agree that turning off services or freezing them does help battery life, it kind of ruins the whole smart phone experience. The reason I have a smart phone is for up to date info at a quick glance. I am sure the info you provided will help some though. Thanks for posting.
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Remove all "phone" services

What's happening, guys? I had a question. I disconnected my phone a while back & have no plans to get back on Sprint anytime soon (broke college student!)
Anyway, I use my phone as a media player & for the useful apps. My phone has been freezing way too much lately, to the point where I've had to download task killers to prevent apps from launching. I never had this problem before. I blame it on the few times my phone has been dropped. I've tried the Supercharge script, but the freezing continues. I've also tried fresh installs with no luck. I'm currently on the People's ROM 2.21. I have a feeling that it's due to the fact that I'm on BML instead of my usual MTD, but I'm not sure.
So I was wondering, what "phone apps/processes" can I delete, since my phone is no longer in service?
Just because it's slow and you want to remove cellular services?
From what I understand it's you're having too much apps that runs at background automatically... Try using Autostarts to cut some of them.
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Not to be rude, but you should re-read my post.
"my phone has been freezing way too much lately, to the point where I've had to download task killers to prevent apps from launching."
After starting a couple of apps, which I know are background processes, I get on the Autokiller Memory Optimizer app (which by the way, is perfect for seeing all apps that are running, including system) & close them. It sucks to be doing it every 15 mins, though. If I forget, then the phone freezes.
I guess what I am asking for is what apps can I remove, since I don't use the actual phone anymore? (dialer, voice mail, etc.)
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Somewhere on here is a list of all the apks on the phone and what they do. A google search should pull it up.
Also, if you haven't done so already, go to the TPR OP and grab the V6 Supercharger script. It works wonders for keep memory free.
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Enfiladedrivein said:
Not to be rude, but you should re-read my post.
"my phone has been freezing way too much lately, to the point where I've had to download task killers to prevent apps from launching."
After starting a couple of apps, which I know are background processes, I get on the Autokiller Memory Optimizer app (which by the way, is perfect for seeing all apps that are running, including system) & close them. It sucks to be doing it every 15 mins, though. If I forget, then the phone freezes.
I guess what I am asking for is what apps can I remove, since I don't use the actual phone anymore? (dialer, voice mail, etc.)
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Yeah I already got it, it's that your phone lags and freezes so you wanna remove some apps INCLUDING cellular services. Yet I insist your trying Autostarts and airplane mode, this combination, if properly set (in Autostarts you can decide whether an app starts during startup, when you turn on WiFi, when you plug in, etc.), can save you a lot of CPU power and memory while keeping the potentials of the apps (not removing them because somehow you may need them)
As for really removing the apps... There are lists floating around telling which APKs can be safely deleted but they're for CM and are based on the "safety" of not losing phone service... So it's really up to you to take the risk. Nandroid backup before you experiment and everything should be fine
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So he can remove them and then reflash a ROM or Odin stock and get all those apks back instead of having to freeze and refreeze apps all the time.
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theunderhawk has a wifi only version preset to remove cellular function.

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