Latest PRI - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Whats the big deal? What exactly is this supposed to help, and why are people acting like its bringing gingerbread to the Evo? I think people are getting a bit worked up over something very small, something so small I'm sure half of the people wouldn't even know or care about it if attention was never brought to it.

IF you don't know then you better ask some body!!!!!!!!!

yang704 said:
IF you don't know then you better ask some body!!!!!!!!!
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Looks like he did.

Rudementry said:
Whats the big deal? What exactly is this supposed to help, and why are people acting like its bringing gingerbread to the Evo? I think people are getting a bit worked up over something very small, something so small I'm sure half of the people wouldn't even know or care about it if attention was never brought to it.
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yang704 said:
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Hmmm... Looks to me like there IS a question being asked.

yang704 said:
IF you don't know then you better ask some body!!!!!!!!!
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Unlike the other posters, I got the reference

Well The bounty page explains it all here is a quote
I like others have had reduced data speeds since receiving my phone. I have talked with HTC in length about this and the PRI stores radio frequencies, channels ect. They said while it might not affect everyone it would affect some. This is all based off what towers you are using ect. This was the reason for the upgrade to the 1.40 PRI. I have been unable to come to a solution with the 2nd level tech over at HTC but trying to work my magic.
The PRI stands for Primary Rate Interface, which is used for carrying multiple digital frequencies for voice and data transmissions between a wireless network and the end user
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With that in mind, old PRI=pokey internet, new PRI=CheetahNet
Simple isn't it. Just looking at an OP post.
Also I did this PRI update and it worked wonders.

For those of us that rooted our phones with Toast's method or some variant, it downgraded our PRI to 1.34_003. Some people noticed slower 3G speeds and suspected the PRI to be the culprit. Finally as of last night after a long period of not having a method to update, they found it. If you never rooted your phone, this issue doesn't affect you. Your PRI version should still be 1.40_003. Funny part though is that several people are saying that it didn't make a difference. But it is good to be as up to date as possible, especially when it comes to radio software.
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yang704 said:
IF you don't know then you better ask some body!!!!!!!!!
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And sombdy answered...:-D
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T-mobile Touch Pro 2 in USA?

I posted this before but it disapeared after all the threads got moved to off topic today and all recent posts where lost so I assume thats why this thread disappeared too, but if was taken down purposely then sorry for putting it back up anyways, it said this: (or something like that)
I have read a lot of articles and posts on xda and other sites saying it will come to t-mobile also some say that a leaked rom shows that it has been configured for t-mobile's network, so do you think this is true, keep in mind t0mobiel hasnt been getting a lot of wm phones recently
so do you think it will come to T-mobile or not?
This thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494055) touches on which carries are supposedly going to carry the device.
Here more info:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10204180-1.html
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/03/25/htc-touch-pro-2-headed-to-t-mobile-usa/#more-20918
It seems this time you´ll get it first!
CTIA is tomorrow! May be we'll get an official T-Mobile USA announcement... (fingers crossed!)
sino8r said:
CTIA is tomorrow! May be we'll get an official T-Mobile USA announcement... (fingers crossed!)
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whats CTIA?
btw lol I've read all those articals I hope it does come to t-mobile
Link278 said:
whats CTIA?
btw lol I've read all those articals I hope it does come to t-mobile
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Have you heard about Google
http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=es-LA&q=CTIA&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
orb3000 said:
Have you heard about Google
http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=es-LA&q=CTIA&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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lol right after I posted that thats exactly what I searched lol sorry
lol sorry this is super off topic, but how do I set one of those messages that goes under all my posts?
Link278 said:
lol sorry this is super off topic, but how do I set one of those messages that goes under all my posts?
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It´s called signature!
Click on private messages just at the right top of the page, then on the left choose edit my sig and voila!
orb3000 said:
It´s called signature!
Click on private messages just at the right top of the page, then on the left choose edit my sig and voila!
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thanks,
btw here is more support hat it will come to t-mobile this is supposed to be htc leaked road map:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=3428
seems its coming to t-mobile and the code name is tungstan
also I thing htc said this was supposed to be the upgrade of the dash or somehting so that this might come to t-mobile:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/snap/overview.html
seems like a super powerd blackberry lol 528 MHz and 192 ram and its got a trackball too
Link278 said:
also I thing htc said this was supposed to be the upgrade of the dash or somehting so that this might come to t-mobile:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/snap/overview.html
seems like a super powerd blackberry lol 528 MHz and 192 ram and its got a trackball too
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yeah that's going to at&t also...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2344209,00.asp
oh, and the first TP2 is going to AT&T...
I am about to jump ship!!!! I am sick of T-Mobile USA's bull****[email protected]#$%^&*(
sino8r said:
yeah that's going to at&t also...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2344209,00.asp
oh, and the first TP2 is going to AT&T...
I am about to jump ship!!!! I am sick of T-Mobile USA's bull****[email protected]#$%^&*(
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so wait does that mean its officially coming to t-mobiel though, and also when will it if it does, and also do u know if a data plan is required sorry for all the questions but I have done a lot of googling and havent found the answers to any of these questions
Link278 said:
so wait does that mean its officially coming to t-mobiel though, and also when will it if it does, and also do u know if a data plan is required sorry for all the questions but I have done a lot of googling and havent found the answers to any of these questions
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U haven't found answers because nobody knows. I don't think it will require data plan because none of their other windows mobile phones require data plan
Link278 said:
I posted this before but it disapeared after all the threads got moved to off topic today and all recent posts where lost so I assume thats why this thread disappeared too, but if was taken down purposely then sorry for putting it back up anyways, it said this: (or something like that)
I have read a lot of articles and posts on xda and other sites saying it will come to t-mobile also some say that a leaked rom shows that it has been configured for t-mobile's network, so do you think this is true, keep in mind t0mobiel hasnt been getting a lot of wm phones recently
so do you think it will come to T-mobile or not?
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I can say with a great deal of faith that this device will be available from T-Mobile.
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I can say with a great deal of faith that this device will be available from T-Mobile.
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I think your right, now my next question is do you think it will require a data plan, cause no other phone from wm has ever required one and I think the iphone requred one but then the fuze didnt also, T-mobile emplyes told me that the G1 actually NEEDS a data plan to work right because it has to be linked to your gmal account, if that was their exuse last time then we all no they will be lieing if they say that this time because we all know that wm DOES NOT requrire one, and also, a question I have had for a while is does the 2nd android phone that was released in some othere country need a data plan, and if the os is the same then maybe it really is just the android os
Link278 said:
I think your right, now my next question is do you think it will require a data plan, cause no other phone from wm has ever required one and I think the iphone requred one but then the fuze didnt also, T-mobile emplyes told me that the G1 actually NEEDS a data plan to work right because it has to be linked to your gmal account, if that was their exuse last time then we all no they will be lieing if they say that this time because we all know that wm DOES NOT requrire one, and also, a question I have had for a while is does the 2nd android phone that was released in some othere country need a data plan, and if the os is the same then maybe it really is just the android os
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How about, I know for a fact that it is. I'm looking at a T-Mobile branded Rhodium right now.
Link278 said:
also I thing htc said this was supposed to be the upgrade of the dash or somehting so that this might come to t-mobile:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/snap/overview.html
seems like a super powerd blackberry lol 528 MHz and 192 ram and its got a trackball too
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Yes, sir that would be the HTC Maple/Snap. It's actually a nice phone for a smartphone and I'm usually not a big fan. It is also coming to T-Mobile about the same time as the Rhodium.
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How about, I know for a fact that it is. I'm looking at a T-Mobile branded Rhodium right now.
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HOW??? do yyou work for t-mobile, if so I gota get me a job there lol, anyways do you know if it needs a data plan??
sino8r said:
yeah that's going to at&t also...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2344209,00.asp
oh, and the first TP2 is going to AT&T...
I am about to jump ship!!!! I am sick of T-Mobile USA's bull****[email protected]#$%^&*(
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Don't beleive everything you read on the internet. The HTC Snap is slated for a T-mobile release.
RUU_Maple_TMOUS_0.81.531.1_Radio_7225_6110_2.32.10.16A_61.10.10.00U_Test
I've seen this working with my own eyes. Don't give up on T-Mobile yet, they're just getting started.

Could froyo be released soon?

I say that because I just seen an updated for qik, and the changer log says it adds froyo support....could be soon......
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Froyo was released a few weeks ago.
Sorry but ment for our evo from sprint....this was the qik for evo version.
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Official Froyo should be released in the next few weeks?:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/19/htc-droid-incredible-htc-email/
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/20/motorola-droid-2-to-be-released-with-android-2-2/
http://www.androidpolice.com/
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Official Froyo should be released in the next few weeks?:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/19/htc-droid-incredible-htc-email/
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/20/motorola-droid-2-to-be-released-with-android-2-2/
http://www.androidpolice.com/
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None of that has anything to do with the Evo
appzattak said:
Sorry but ment for our evo from sprint....this was the qik for evo version.
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Well HTC reps which no nothing still will tell you 2nd half of this year.
I'd assume they'd want to get it out before the Droid 2 is dropped as its going to have it on it and is released next month evidently.
One would think Sprint would be putting a foot in the arse of HTC to get it out. I've unfortunately herd horror stories of HTC's slow rollouts so who knows.
Man, why does it seem like more than half of the threads in "Evo General" get moved to another forum? Why not just delete the "General" forum? Most everything else fits into one of the other four categories. It would save a lot of mod effort, I would think.
Sorry, off-topic, but I'm smart enough to avoid the irony of starting a new thread.
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Official Froyo should be released in the next few weeks?:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/19/htc-droid-incredible-htc-email/
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/20/motorola-droid-2-to-be-released-with-android-2-2/
http://www.androidpolice.com/
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None of that has anything to do with the Evo
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If it was a definitive announcement, I wouldn't have thrown in the question mark.
Links suggest if 2.2 is going to HTC's incredible & Droid2 in the next few weeks, the EVO should not be far behind unless they no longer care to remain competitive.
appzattak said:
I say that because I just seen an updated for qik, and the changer log says it adds froyo support....could be soon......
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Nice find, very suspicious that the Evo QIK just added Froyo support
jerryparid said:
Nice find, very suspicious that the Evo QIK just added Froyo support
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exactly...../me thinks they are being hush hush and may drop a surprise...
appzattak said:
exactly...../me thinks they are being hush hush and may drop a surprise...
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Well heres the last email I got from HTC regarding this when I replied back to the first one saying thats BS they have no need to get stuff from google now the code is released to everyone. And also said with the Incredible getting FroYo in a week or two I asked for a better ETA regarding the Evo as opposed to the "2nd half of the year" I was originally told. I also commented on how Sprint stated that the Evo would be getting the Froyo soon.
"First, I want to apologize on Sprint's behalf because they should not have told you things that are inaccurate. They have no reason to say "soon" as to the availability of the update. Our engineers are indeed working on it, but it has to be made specifically for each phone and tested before it can be released. Setting up Sense is a large part of it as well. There is not a better time line I can give you than the second half of the year, as that is all the information we have right now. We do not have a better estimate than that."
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If the POS Incredible gets it before the Evo, I'm gonna be pissed. However, if they fix their shoddy HDMI implementation and lift the frame rate cap, I don't mind waiting... but fat chance on that ACTUALLY happening.
SMARTPHONEPC said:
If it was a definitive announcement, I wouldn't have thrown in the question mark.
Links suggest if 2.2 is going to HTC's incredible & Droid2 in the next few weeks, the EVO should not be far behind unless they no longer care to remain competitive.
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Ohhhhhhh, I gotcha.
appzattak said:
exactly...../me thinks they are being hush hush and may drop a surprise...
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Don't hold your breath bro.
Sent on my Sprint EVO using 4G speed
Some announcement would be nice..
Seems like everyone else has a set date and ours is oh sometime this year..
If this plays out anything like 2.1 did with the hero we'll see some leaked releases a couple( or many) of weeks before the official release hits
appzattak said:
Could froyo be released soon?
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No. Q4 10/Q1 11
crakerjaks said:
No. Q4 10/Q1 11
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Nope it is due BY Christmas on all HTC devices Evo should be around Q3
063_XOBX said:
Nope it is due BY Christmas on all HTC devices Evo should be around Q3
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nope they will fail per usual dont count on it till sprint 11'
You would think that Sprint would be lighting a fire under HTC's ass to get this out the door quicker. I mean this phone really has put sprint back in the game.

PRL from 60668 to 60669?

i apologize for posting this here, and yes, you can move it if you want. but when did the PRL change? i checked it about 3 hours ago and i was on 8, checked an hour ago, and now on 9?
hmmm, don't know what to think about this one . . . but taking it anyways.
I'll bet that some day it will go to 60670.
60669 comfirm just updated it
2 seconds ago
Htc Evil Phone
No way!!!
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I'll bet that some day it will go to 60670.
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REALLY!!! you think it might!!?? you are pretty smart!!
Yes the latest PRL is 60669.
from your original post, it looks like you're asking "when did the prl update?"
looks like today by the data you present.
You should extract it and post it in the original post for all to have and manually update.
???
regulator207 said:
from your original post, it looks like you're asking "when did the prl update?"
looks like today by the data you present.
You should extract it and post it in the original post for all to have and manually update.
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my apologies, i am new to all of this, but learning quickly. how can i do that to help everyone?
Looks like the update came out sometime between 2-4 hours ago.
update
freeza said:
Looks like the update came out sometime between 2-4 hours ago.
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how does this update help or hurt us? or does it even matter at all? if not, ill wont comment anymore and they can just close this post.
jtc442 said:
how does this update help or hurt us? or does it even matter at all? if not, ill wont comment anymore and they can just close this post.
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It's the preferred roaming list and its important enough to update.
PRL
BuddaBelly said:
It's the preferred roaming list and its important enough to update.
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ok, i appreciate the info. just letting everyone know. thanks!!
jtc442 said:
ok, i appreciate the info. just letting everyone know. thanks!!
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See I didn't know there was an update till I saw your post so THANK YOU.
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REALLY!!! you think it might!!?? you are pretty smart!!
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Actually I called Sprint about this and talked to a very helpful customer service rep and he confirmed the they are skipping 70 and 71 and going straight to 72.
I was unsure of the accuracy of this so I went and talked to a Sprint Rep at a Sprint store and they said that the customer service rep was "so wrong" and that in actuality we will be getting 70, but not until the Evo 4G is upgraded to Gingerbread (android 3.0 to those not in the know) in October.
So there you go...
no prob!!
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See I didn't know there was an update till I saw your post so THANK YOU.
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not a problem at all. glad i could help. not very often on these forums you find someone greatful for something unless you are giving them a rom!!
jedwardmiller said:
Actually I called Sprint about this and talked to a very helpful customer service rep and he confirmed the they are skipping 70 and 71 and going straight to 72.
I was unsure of the accuracy of this so I went and talked to a Sprint Rep at a Sprint store and they said that the customer service rep was "so wrong" and that in actuality we will be getting 70, but not until the Evo 4G is upgraded to Gingerbread (android 3.0 to those not in the know) in October.
So there you go...
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i would definitely take that with a grain of salt. those reps like to pull random numbers and dates out of their asses.
hockey4life0099 said:
i would definitely take that with a grain of salt. those reps like to pull random numbers and dates out of their asses.
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lol that was definitely a joke
freeza said:
lol that was definitely a joke
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Though I wish it wasn't. Wouldn't it be nice to hear we are getting Gingerbread in October and Honey-bun in January?!?!
Moved as not development.
Man, I don't know what the heck is going on, but I just checked again, and it jumped up to 70? Made me do a reboot? Now everything on my phone us upside down, sort of like when I modded my Wii and installed homebrew, everything was upsidedown at first?? What gives??
Jk!!!
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New OTA for mytouch Slide 1.42?

Just saw CR's twitter post asking if anyone recieved the ota 1.42 update..........is this true? A new update for MTS?
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I got it yesterday but failed when I tryed to flash it.
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I've heard about it to. I'd reallllllllllly like to get my hands on it. Any word if its froyo?
siccmade said:
I got it yesterday but failed when I tryed to flash it.
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Do you have the zip file?? Upload it please!!!
on the t-mo forums it seems that someone has talked to customer service and they said that they are releasing an update to fix some problems that people had with the previous update and adding HSPA+ support. but no mention of froyo so idk we will see i guess
Ok just called 611.
The OTA system has been down since yesterday.
No one knows when it will be running again but when it does the update will be sent out on Mondays, Wednesdays & Friday evenings..
The update is just a lot of fixes for what the other update caused..
Genius Button, Freezing, My Fave, Voice commands, Wifi, Phone Call log..
Nothing special really .. but defo not Froyo.
acejoker25000 said:
on the t-mo forums it seems that someone has talked to customer service and they said that they are releasing an update to fix some problems that people had with the previous update and adding HSPA+ support. but no mention of froyo so idk we will see i guess
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This person was me, lol. This information was delivered from Tier 3 Technical Support. I also found out some heft info regarding my Vibrant as well. Customer Service Reps and any technical support below really don't know much as opposed to that level. I was surprised... But nevertheless, allow me to explain.
A lot of MTS owners have been reporting signal fluctuations and that's because of what I had said about this previous update locking the signal to HSPA. Well, that was a test update in that regard because it was all to test the server load. (It's not handling it well, lol...) So this next patch will fix many of the bugs and will allow the MTS to use the HSPA+ servers. I have an ETA for Froyo on my Vibrant but not the Slide, sorry.
wat is the eta for the vibrant im sure all the vibrant users including me wouldn want to know
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wat is the eta for the vibrant im sure all the vibrant users including me wouldn want to know
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Well, I don't know if you've heard but there were rumors of the GPS fix to be baked into Froyo. Sadly, that isn't the case. There will be the GPS patch this month (which is rumored to begin getting pushed around the 17th-20th) and then there will be another sub-patch (which is for the battery meter, address book force closes, multiple contacts and plenty of other bugs) released once the GPS fix is complete.
Then we've got October and that's when T-Mobile is planning on starting the rollout for Froyo. It is to be completed before the middle of November. I suppose this is all factoring minimal to no issues with the OTA's coming out prior.
Sidenote: With this whole Cliq debacle, I was told that from this point forward T-Mobile will try to focus their Android lineup on mostly vanilla Android. (I wouldn't mind more Sense devices though. I personally don't care for Espresso but my wife loves her slide and the UI.) They are really having to bite the bullet since the Behold II and now the Cliq's promised update to 2.1 from Q2 which it's now almost Q4 with no update.
kemimarie said:
Nothing special really .. but defo not Froyo.
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Why do they insist on giving on these worthless updates, instead of working on an actual Froyo rom? They waist their time on something that's like 20MB, when that time could be used for something else..Other HTC phones are getting 2.2(inc sense). There are minor diff b/t sense & espresso, excluding faves, genius,themes,etc...
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Why do they insist on giving on these worthless updates, instead of working on an actual Froyo rom? They waist their time on something that's like 20MB, when that time could be used for something else..Other HTC phones are getting 2.2(inc sense). There are minor diff b/t sense & espresso, excluding faves, genius,themes,etc...
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They have different teams that work on the software of the device. For example they'll have a team who test in-market software while others work on testing and developing for future software.
Give these guys a break. They work hard at what they do.
Thanks for the response everyone, I will leave this topic up for future updates to the slide up to and including froyo.
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Yes, there is an OTA on the way... CR has seen it in-person. No, it's definitely NOT Froyo. Nothing overly exciting, but for those people who run stock-like ROMs it will definitely be an upgrade.
My letter (linked here) is to address a specific time-line for Froyo rollout on our device.
siccmade, can you PLEASE get in touch with ChiefzReloaded or myself ASAP? My GTalk is nbetcher (at) gmail [dot] com. Thanks!
Looked but didnt see it. Were should I be looking
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False alarm everyone... still need someone to pull the OTA once they get a notification. Note: if you get a notification on anything other than: Stock or CR_Mod then it's likely a bug. Please download the OTA package, but make sure to NOT apply it!
Thanks everyone.
Is there a manual download update before this one that we are waiting to come out?
Jrbourque said:
Is there a manual download update before this one that we are waiting to come out?
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dude i love ur profile pic! haha that is classic! for all who dont know how to do it get a barcode reader on ur phone and scan it to his pic...
valdezpa09 said:
dude i love ur profile pic! haha that is classic! for all who dont know how to do it get a barcode reader on ur phone and scan it to his pic...
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lolol thanks....i actually forgot about it... i did it when barcode scanner and qrcode maker first came out
Ok guys Im on my wife's unrooted slide. Just got the 1. 35 update. Maybe ill root it after I apply it.
So the 1.42 update isnt going to happen?
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Defeat Data Throttle?

Has anyone seen this thread? Maybe we could get it working on our desire z's????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127368&page=33
tarroyo said:
Has anyone seen this thread? Maybe we could get it working on our desire z's????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127368&page=33
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yeah, another ***** who stole my work and acting like its his. thanks for pointing it out though sorry to tell you it doesn't work anymore. Maybe own his network. You can still modify the services.jar with smali and try it out if you'd like.
Thanks bro!
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Thanks bro!
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No problem! It's like the 5th thread I've seen of people claiming it still works and only a couple gave me credit, lol! I don't mind that so much but more so the spreading of false hope they are giving The only way I know of to trick the throttle is toggling the old apn with the new one. But that only works for a couple hours max if at all anymore. When I first came posted this, quite a few blogs picked it up and I think T-Mobile became aware of the flaw. It all appears to be controlled server-side now and should have been from the start lol!

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