I am new to both tweaking my phone and also new to this forum.
I feel I have to ask this question because I don't want a brick!
I obtained an unlock code from T-Mobile and unlocked my phone that way.
Do I still have to flash Hard-SPL for any reason? Is there something about it that will make flashing a new rom easier or more stable?
There are various forms of "unlocking" on the phone. The unlock code you get from your carrier is to SIM unlock the phone. This allows you to use the phone with a SIM card from other GMS carriers.
You still need to HardSPL the phone to flash any custom ROMs. SPL locks the phone to only be able to flash official T-Mob branded ROMs. So HardSPL unlocks it so you can flash any ROM. Completely different from the SIM unlock.
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I'm completely new to unlocking and flashing cooked ROMs on phones, though I've done similar things on other devices (nothing PDA-like though). And I'm confused about what unlocking does, vs. flashing a cooked ROM.
I understand that unlocking the SIM let's you use any carrier's SIM, and unlocking the CID allows you to flash any ROM -- I assume those settings aren't stored on the ROM then?
If I unlock a phone, then do the official upgrade to WM6, will it remain unlocked (still branded, but unlocked)? Can't the cooked ROM unlock the phone also?
This part probably belongs on a separate thread -- I get what the ExtROM is, but what's the Radio, etc.?
(PS: I looked at all the wiki's I could find on this site, and on several others, but all just described how to unlock or flash, not the workings of it. Maybe I'm blind though, so sorry if I missed a wiki!)
radio == gsm radio == whats makes the pda a pda phone
A quick explanation on the SIM / CID unlock:
It is correct that SIM unlocking lets you use SIM from any carrier, but CID unlocking does not let you flush "any ROM".
You still have to use a ROM designed for your device with the specific drivers in it or you will brick the thing.
CID lock prevents you from re-branding (i-mate Jamin and O2 Neo are same device but you can't use O2 ROM on i-mate device unless you CID unlock it) or changing OS language (through different language ROM).
Both SIM and CID lock values are located in a special part of memory where the phones IMEI also resides. This area is checksumed and is not affected by ROM changes.
So no, cooked ROM can not unlock the phone, you need to unlock first then flash a cooked ROM.
That helps a lot, thank you both!
A radio upgrade could potentially yield a better signal and faster speeds ... cooked ROMs offer the software aspect ... ExtROMs, again software; with the SIM/CID locks on separate memory inside the phone ...
Well, I think I'm ready to try to unlock the phone and load some nifty software on it ... got my fingers crossed I can get one "cheap" that is already unlocked, but they are, from what I'm seeing, usually $150 more than locked ones. I'd rather unlock it myself!
How to upgrade and install WM6 for Qtek 9100?
I am New to this software field. I want to know how to flash the rom and upgrade devices [K-jam,Jamin,Qtek 9100,Qtek 9000 ect...]
can some one plz tell me the steps to do these things??
i had previously accidentally posted this in the xperia section but i meant for it to be here but
im getting my tilt 2 tommorow
i ordered it online from amazon contract free ($500)
so i have some questions
1. is it sim unlocked? or will i have to go get an unlock code from att
2. will it automatically add a data plan if i put in my att sim card onto it?
(if so is there a way to bypass this)
3. whats hte diffference between cid unlocking and sim unlocking. is there away to do both in 1 method
No, it isn't SIM unlocked.
No, it will not add a data plan to your AT&T account if you put the SIM in.
SIM unlock allows you to use other SIMs in your device. CID unlocking allows you to flash any signed HTC ROM (For example, you could flash a Vodafone or a TMobile USA ROM on your Tilt2). CID unlocking really isn't necessary for most people since most people use HardSPL, but you can SIM, Security, and CID unlock with this tool here. It costs money for most people, but it's really worth it since it does all three types of unlocks.
Since you are new to the HTC Rhodium, I encourage you to read the wiki article and all stickies posted around the Rhodium forums, as well as the annoucement at the top. Hope that helps
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
No, it isn't SIM unlocked.
No, it will not add a data plan to your AT&T account if you put the SIM in.
SIM unlock allows you to use other SIMs in your device. CID unlocking allows you to flash any signed HTC ROM (For example, you could flash a Vodafone or a TMobile USA ROM on your Tilt2). CID unlocking really isn't necessary for most people since most people use HardSPL, but you can SIM, Security, and CID unlock with this tool here. It costs money for most people, but it's really worth it since it does all three types of unlocks.
Since you are new to the HTC Rhodium, I encourage you to read the wiki article and all stickies posted around the Rhodium forums, as well as the annoucement at the top. Hope that helps
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1. ok thankyou so i shud ask att for an unlock code if i want to use it in china?/out of US
2. ohreally? i wasnt sure about this because when i went to att store and asked to buy a contract free tilt2, the guy said that they wud add a 30 dollar data plan to my line so it was really confusing
3. what about all of these roms that people are making on this forums do i need to cid unlock to use them?
oh new question are all these roms on the internet like windowsmobile specific? like will 1 rom work with 6.1 and another work with 6.5 or do they all work together
You could use an unlock code from AT&T, or use the tool I linked to in my post. As I said, it's $15, but it's very much worth it since it SIM unlocks, the money is used for good purposes, and it CID and Security unlocks as well.
While they may try to sell you a data plan when you buy it, they can't add a data plan when you insert your SIM
A CID unlock is not required to use the cooked ROMs on this forum. To use the custom ROMs on this forum, you need HardSPL. CID unlocking only allows you to use signed HTC ROMs, meaning that you can flash a TMobile ROM onto your AT&T Tilt while still running stock bootloader. However, CID unlocking won't let you run the custom ROMs you'll find online, since they aren't signed by HTC.
I'm afraid I don't understand your last question, sorry.
oh i mean do all of these roms work with windows mobile 6.5 and 6.1? or only one and not the other
All ROMs are only Windows Mobile 6.1 or only 6.5. If you flash a 6.5 ROM onto you device, you will be running windows mobile 6.5. Same for 6.1. There is no way for two versions of WM to coexist on the same device (that I know of).
where do i put cab files?
jopherr said:
oh i mean do all of these roms work with windows mobile 6.5 and 6.1? or only one and not the other
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The ROM totally replaces everything (including Windows) on the device.
jopherr said:
where do i put cab files?
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You put them on the device. To install them, you browse to them in File explorer mobile, then tap on them, and they will install.
what about roms?
how do i put them on my phone
i did hte hard spl thing already
jopherr said:
what about roms?
how do i put them on my phone
i did hte hard spl thing already
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Follow the instructions here, and skip over the HardSPL part if you've already HardSPL'd.
Also, since you've finally recieved your device, I encourage you to read the Rhodium Wiki, as well as all the stickies around the forum.
Just got a new TP2 from TMO and woul d like to learn how to flash. But now the phone is unlock and I haven't got the unlock code yet. What can I do without the unlock code?
The "unlock code" you're speaking of is a SIM unlock code, which is irrelevant when flashing ROMs. SIM unlock doesn't matter with custom ROMs. Rather, you need to HardSPL your device before you can flash unofficial ROMs. Please see the Flashing Your First GSM Rhodium ROM (For Noobs) thread for more information on ROM flashing.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
The "unlock code" you're speaking of is a SIM unlock code, which is irrelevant when flashing ROMs. SIM unlock doesn't matter with custom ROMs. Rather, you need to HardSPL your device before you can flash unofficial ROMs. Please see the Flashing Your First GSM Rhodium ROM (For Noobs) thread for more information on ROM flashing.
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So I can try HardSPL now and all other ROMs and apply the sim unlock code later once I get it from T-mobile? Won't cause any problem for unlocking?
Thanks.
That's kind of tricky, actually. While the SIM unlock code is not related to flashing custom ROMs, the carrier provided codes may require you to be on the carrier's ROM when using the code, as the methods for entering the code into the device are often specific to that carrier's ROM. Until you get the code, I would recommend waiting to flash a custom ROM. You can still HardSPL your device, I just wouldn't change the ROM. It won't cause problems if you change ROMs, but you'll likely have to change back to the T-Mobile ROM in order for the code to be entered properly and unlock the device. After you unlock with T-Mobile's code you can change ROMs and still be SIM unlocked. Or, if you don't want to wait for the code at all, there's an unlocking service run by two of the most well respected Windows Mobile hackers which costs €14 (roughly $18), and can be found here.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
That's kind of tricky, actually. While the SIM unlock code is not related to flashing custom ROMs, the carrier provided codes may require you to be on the carrier's ROM when using the code, as the methods for entering the code into the device are often specific to that carrier's ROM. Until you get the code, I would recommend waiting to flash a custom ROM. You can still HardSPL your device, I just wouldn't change the ROM. It won't cause problems if you change ROMs, but you'll likely have to change back to the T-Mobile ROM in order for the code to be entered properly and unlock the device. After you unlock with T-Mobile's code you can change ROMs and still be SIM unlocked. Or, if you don't want to wait for the code at all, there's an unlocking service run by two of the most well respected Windows Mobile hackers which costs €14 (roughly $18), and can be found here.
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Thank you. I will wait until I get the code before doing anything else then, to be on the safe side.
This might be a less then educated question however, is there a way to enter an unlock code without using a non carrier specific SIM card. I have a T-Mobile TP2 and have the unlock code for it however, I have no interest or access to another carriers SIM card. I just want to plash ROMS not change providers… The current OS on the device is the TM issued Win Mo 6.5….
Any Help Would Be Appreciated….
Thank You
You must pay for a SIM unlock code, then you can flash another ROM.
Instructions how:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
Good luck,
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This might be a less then educated question however, is there a way to enter an unlock code without using a non carrier specific SIM card. I have a T-Mobile TP2 and have the unlock code for it however, I have no interest or access to another carriers SIM card. I just want to plash ROMS not change providers… The current OS on the device is the TM issued Win Mo 6.5….
Any Help Would Be Appreciated….
Thank You
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you are thinking of a sim unlock not a carrier unlock.
to flash a rom you have to be carrier unlocked and have hard spl. that is totally separate from sim unlocking.
Hi all new to the GNex.
I recently updated to IMM76I (Yakju) Please correct if I am wrong via OTA. However I am still locked to O2 UK. I hope to get my unlock code in the next few days from O2. I have one question.
Once I unlock my phone so it becomes sim free and then decide to go custom rom route, will I have to unlock the sim unlock again?
After reading threads about doing manual unlocking of the network lock. I was not sure if the scenario outlined in those threads about having to unlock sim after each reset will affect me in the same way.
Many Thanks
Tom