a couple of noob questions. hope you guys can help - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

i had previously accidentally posted this in the xperia section but i meant for it to be here but
im getting my tilt 2 tommorow
i ordered it online from amazon contract free ($500)
so i have some questions
1. is it sim unlocked? or will i have to go get an unlock code from att
2. will it automatically add a data plan if i put in my att sim card onto it?
(if so is there a way to bypass this)
3. whats hte diffference between cid unlocking and sim unlocking. is there away to do both in 1 method

No, it isn't SIM unlocked.
No, it will not add a data plan to your AT&T account if you put the SIM in.
SIM unlock allows you to use other SIMs in your device. CID unlocking allows you to flash any signed HTC ROM (For example, you could flash a Vodafone or a TMobile USA ROM on your Tilt2). CID unlocking really isn't necessary for most people since most people use HardSPL, but you can SIM, Security, and CID unlock with this tool here. It costs money for most people, but it's really worth it since it does all three types of unlocks.
Since you are new to the HTC Rhodium, I encourage you to read the wiki article and all stickies posted around the Rhodium forums, as well as the annoucement at the top. Hope that helps

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
No, it isn't SIM unlocked.
No, it will not add a data plan to your AT&T account if you put the SIM in.
SIM unlock allows you to use other SIMs in your device. CID unlocking allows you to flash any signed HTC ROM (For example, you could flash a Vodafone or a TMobile USA ROM on your Tilt2). CID unlocking really isn't necessary for most people since most people use HardSPL, but you can SIM, Security, and CID unlock with this tool here. It costs money for most people, but it's really worth it since it does all three types of unlocks.
Since you are new to the HTC Rhodium, I encourage you to read the wiki article and all stickies posted around the Rhodium forums, as well as the annoucement at the top. Hope that helps
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1. ok thankyou so i shud ask att for an unlock code if i want to use it in china?/out of US
2. ohreally? i wasnt sure about this because when i went to att store and asked to buy a contract free tilt2, the guy said that they wud add a 30 dollar data plan to my line so it was really confusing
3. what about all of these roms that people are making on this forums do i need to cid unlock to use them?
oh new question are all these roms on the internet like windowsmobile specific? like will 1 rom work with 6.1 and another work with 6.5 or do they all work together

You could use an unlock code from AT&T, or use the tool I linked to in my post. As I said, it's $15, but it's very much worth it since it SIM unlocks, the money is used for good purposes, and it CID and Security unlocks as well.
While they may try to sell you a data plan when you buy it, they can't add a data plan when you insert your SIM
A CID unlock is not required to use the cooked ROMs on this forum. To use the custom ROMs on this forum, you need HardSPL. CID unlocking only allows you to use signed HTC ROMs, meaning that you can flash a TMobile ROM onto your AT&T Tilt while still running stock bootloader. However, CID unlocking won't let you run the custom ROMs you'll find online, since they aren't signed by HTC.
I'm afraid I don't understand your last question, sorry.

oh i mean do all of these roms work with windows mobile 6.5 and 6.1? or only one and not the other

All ROMs are only Windows Mobile 6.1 or only 6.5. If you flash a 6.5 ROM onto you device, you will be running windows mobile 6.5. Same for 6.1. There is no way for two versions of WM to coexist on the same device (that I know of).

where do i put cab files?

jopherr said:
oh i mean do all of these roms work with windows mobile 6.5 and 6.1? or only one and not the other
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The ROM totally replaces everything (including Windows) on the device.

jopherr said:
where do i put cab files?
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You put them on the device. To install them, you browse to them in File explorer mobile, then tap on them, and they will install.

what about roms?
how do i put them on my phone
i did hte hard spl thing already

jopherr said:
what about roms?
how do i put them on my phone
i did hte hard spl thing already
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Follow the instructions here, and skip over the HardSPL part if you've already HardSPL'd.
Also, since you've finally recieved your device, I encourage you to read the Rhodium Wiki, as well as all the stickies around the forum.

Related

debranding Dash

Anyone know of a way to debrand the Tmobile Dash to get all of thier splash screens off of it?
Flash with the ROM posted in this thread. There are pluses and minuses to both. I like the S620 ROM myself. The only thing I miss is the ability to hold a key down to get the corosponding symbol. I don't miss the T-mobile garbage
how well does the rom work. is that the only issue is that you cant hold the keys down to get the other characters??
As long as you are WM literate enough to change the mms/gprs settings to work with your provider. Everything works great
are you refering to the post with this rom?
RUU_Excalibur_HTC_WWE_1.11.405.4_4.1.13.28_02.63.9 0_Test.exe
making sure I am on the right track.
i would like to know how to do this also without turning my unlocked cingular dash into a brick.
bkeaver said:
are you refering to the post with this rom?
RUU_Excalibur_HTC_WWE_1.11.405.4_4.1.13.28_02.63.9 0_Test.exe
making sure I am on the right track.
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Indeed. I think it is the only one in this forum
havieri23 said:
i would like to know how to do this also without turning my unlocked cingular dash into a brick.
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Just follow the direction to the tea. Other than that there are never any promises. But more people successfully flash their ROM then don't
jcjdoss said:
As long as you are WM literate enough to change the mms/gprs settings to work with your provider. Everything works great
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before i get started, what do i need to change speficially to work it with cingular?
is there a way to revert back if it doesnt go well?
I've done this myself with my Dash as I have changed from T-mobile to Cingular.
Make sure that you are CID unlocked. Do not confuse SIM unlocking with CID unlocking. If you need help determining if you are CID unlocked I've got one question, did you pay to get CID unlocked? If yes then you know what you are doing but if no then you are not CID unlocked and it will not flash. Getting a SIM unlock code from T-mobile allows you to use other carriers but you still cannot flash the phone with just a SIM unlock.
Flashing the phone is simple, plug it in, let active sync run and then double click the Rom file you've downloaded and follow the instructions. In a few minutes your phone will restart and all of the T-mobile stuff is gone and you are off to a fresh start.
As for settings, you will need to change GPRS and MMS settings like others said. The info you need can be obtained from hofo or cingular's website, it's pretty straight forward.
Troy
how do i go about CID Unlocking it?
I have an o2 cosmo in german. I know it is unlocked because I can use my cingular sim card. If I try to flash a new ROM without knowing if it is CID unlocked, would it brick my phone? or would it just not let me do it?. I have changed ROM's before on different HTC's phones but it seems like there is not a lot of reseach on the excalibur.

unlocked Dash?

newbie here. and yes I did my search and read about this topic. but you know things do change w/ new ROM and blah blah blah.
currently I am a cingular user - MediaNet package. I am very interested on the TMobile Dash. I do know that in order to work on other carrier, the phone needs to be unlock. One thing I didnt know until I read here is that there are two types of unlocking.. SIM unlock and the CID unlock. I also read that CID unlock i would have to pay for and the SIM unlock I can use the Application software (link i found in here - i think its dead now or network busy).
How easy is to unlock the phone? reading here you guys mentioned about flashing the ROM to HTC.
I havent purchased the phone yet.... just need to know my opinion before making a purchase and not have to scratch my head before actually get to use the phone.
thank you.
john
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299769
cudp
I already had sim unlocked s620 but i used the page to cid unlock my device and it worked realy good, now I have a cid unlocked HTC S620 and I haven't any problem to flash every rom that I need.
cudo said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299769
cudp
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thanks for the link Cudp. actually read that one already.
simumarek said:
I already had sim unlocked s620 but i used the page to cid unlock my device and it worked realy good, now I have a cid unlocked HTC S620 and I haven't any problem to flash every rom that I need.
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I think you lost me. can you simple that explain again. thanks.
to re flash your device with different ROM then the one you have at the moment require SIM, CID and Aplication UnLocked Device.App UnLock is free btw.the CID and SIM lock you can do it for 20GBP or for free if you know the guy who does it for 20GBP
then you need to get hold of the ROM you want to flash and flash it.
i had US t-mobile dash and flashed it with HTC s620 ROM @
cudo
EDIT: good guide here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288230
Thank you everyone... i am now a DASH owner... w/ Cingular services. heheh!
Just curious if the SIM is unlocked before flashing the ROM, will it still be unlocked after flashing the ROM?
Can Someone create a program?
I'm not sure how the unlock codes are generated or if they are just random, but my question is If someone who is good at algorithms looks at some of the IMEI and the associated unlock codes could there be a program written that basically generates Unlock codes by using that algorithm?
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I need some suggestions...

Hi everyone,
i am new to Hermes site, i used to have wizard and knew how to unlock or flush any rom to that phone.
Tomorrow i am getting cingular 8525 which i am planning to use in T-mobile here in US. the phone I am getting is going to be refurbished phone. At&T is replacing the phone purchased back in February of this year.
I know I have to unlock it before I use it with t-mobile. I have read two ways of unlocking it one way is using HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a.zip file but at the same time I read about this way "SIM-Unlock SoftBank X01ht post April (white versions) with radio 1.14.01.10".
since the phone will be refurbished phone, should I treat it as new out of bax when unlocking it? which way should I chose to unlock?
I only have T-mobile sim card, do you think i will need at&t sim card to unlock this phone?
after the unlock I am planning to upgrade it to wm6 and I saw many good roms here: Official HTC rom, Black Magic, Black Satin...which one of these would you guys recommend me to use?
Thank you in advance.
K
so many views no reply?
can any one give suggestions?
Use the HTC Hermes SIM_CID_Unlock v3a. Worked like a charm for me. It will CID and SIM unlock so you can install whatever rom and use whatever carrier you wanted. You don't need an ATT sim to unlock it either...just follow the step by step instructions that come with the unlocker.
I used the Hacked Radio Version way to unlock mine
worked exactly as it said
and then i SuperCID mine...or you could just use OliPRO

Some questions - SIM unlock

Hello Guys,
This question may be a little noob for everyone here but I really need to understand couple(or 3) of things here:
1. What basically is a SIM lock? is it software lock or some kind of hardware(registers) lock ?
2. If I get a new (brand new) phone from Rogers canada .. say HTC S621 and I flash it with one of the custom ROMs like NRG's or Kavanas... will it also remove my SIM lock...?
Actually the reason I am asking these questions is ....
I already have a HTC S621 which I SIM unlocked from some site for 30 some dollars about a year back. I was with Rogers rom at that time.
Now I upgraded to NRG remade rom .. so is my phone still SIM unlocked.... ?
if somebody could answer these questions.. I would really appreciate...
If you paid $30 for it, it is most likely a Sim unlock, which allows you to use others sim cards. CID unlock is a free app that is floating around here somewhere, and it is just a software unlock that allows you to put others Roms on your phone. For example, mine is a tmobile dash that is still sim locked to tmobile, but I have ahd Rogers, HTC, and multiple kitchen roms on it without any problems. Sim unlock would allow me to use an AT&T or other type of carriers sim card in it as well, but I dont need that.
Your phone will still be Sim unlocked if it has been unlocked in the past.
Does this answer your questions?
My Mistake
Hey god speed...
pardon my mistake .. i just made a fool out of myself....
Please replace CID with sim lock... I wrote the question keeping in mind Sim lock but I dont know y on the earth I kept on writing CID...
Sorry for wrong question... I will edit that...
My basic question is
1. Does flashing a ROM on a SIM Locked phone breaks the SIM LOCK? and
2. If My phone is with Rogers , I got it Sim Unlocked by paying 30 bucks.. and then reflashed to NRG Rom.. is it still locked or unlocked..
Thanks again....
flashing a new rom does not break the sim lock (or unlock in your case). Your good to go
Thanks go speed.....
I appreciate
no problem, just trying to give back where I can. Enjoy 6.1, its a whole new world!

Help: Several questions about unlock

Hi every one, my phone model is HTC Hermes 8525 locked to Att. Now it is in original box with Windows Mobile 5. I want to unlock it first. I have read articles on this BBS and aware that if I want to do future Rom flashing things I might need both SIM and CID unlocked. At same time I found several unlock code provider on Ebay.com. Now the questions come up.
1) Is Unlock code got via Ebay only for SIM unlock, or it is for both?
2) Is there any risk for such kind of unlock code for my phone? What's the worst outcome for using unlocker software downloaded here?
3) If I don't unlock my CID, can I still upgrade my phone with WM6? What specific ROM of WM6 shall I use?
4) Any other suggestion is welcomed, Ad's also.
Thanks a head
bopomofo said:
Hi every one, my phone model is HTC Hermes 8525 locked to Att. Now it is in original box with Windows Mobile 5. I want to unlock it first. I have read articles on this BBS and aware that if I want to do future Rom flashing things I might need both SIM and CID unlocked. At same time I found several unlock code provider on Ebay.com. Now the questions come up.
1) Is Unlock code got via Ebay only for SIM unlock, or it is for both?
2) Is there any risk for such kind of unlock code for my phone? What's the worst outcome for using unlocker software downloaded here?
3) If I don't unlock my CID, can I still upgrade my phone with WM6? What specific ROM of WM6 shall I use?
4) Any other suggestion is welcomed, Ad's also.
Thanks a head
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Hi and welcome to xda-developers forum!
1) I think this "unlock code" will provide you an ability to disable/re-enable SIM Lock/Operator Lock, not CID Lock (as it's platform specific and required to flash unofficial ROMs)
2) The worst is device will become brick. But it could occur only if you download and flash wrong ROM.
3) No, if it's unofficial. If HTC provided a WM6 update to Hermes (I don't remember), it could be flashed.
Good luck
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i just got that phone, i found a guy on youtube for the sim unlock, it worked for my phone , now it runs a tmobile sim card ya. not sure what cid a nd all that is, on youtube most people dont give details on how to get things done but there is the one guy for the sim. next i upgraded to wm6 using a google search and deciphering through all the bull****, then i used xda for wm6.1. it all worked and i dont know **** so u should be fine, if you know how to unzip and do things with files and alwas look for exe. extentsion, that ones usually money, im trying to upgrade to 6.5 but im getting errors, first time im having propblems, so let me know anybody, about that. good luck
What phone do you have?

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