A8183 can't break 3.6mbps - Desire General

I have a telstra desire a8183 which is running on the Telecom XT network - nationwide 850mhz 3g coverage, which has recently been upgraded to HSPA+ in many places.
But I cant break the slower 3.6mbps speed despite the 7.2mbps the desire claims.
I'm standing right by a cell site now. -63db and 25asu and here's the result:
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Any ideas? This is with the 5.09 radio and leedroid rom. But the stock rom and radio had the same result.
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suggest you read up a but about digital comms. You will never ever see 7.2mbps unless you are in a lab with a cell transmitter all to yourself. There are 10s of reasons for this. contention, attenuation etc. I think the best you will see is about 4 - 5mbps if the cell tower is completely empty of other traffic and your speed test server is directly connected to the cell tower with no other links in between.
Otherwise, I think 3 to 4mbps is excellent result.

The 7.2 mbps speed is the maximum theoretical speed the device is capable of i.e. in ideal conditions. You will never see that speed.
I use a 3G router at work and I have NEVER seen any more than 3.5 on that which too is capable of 7.2.
3 to 3.5 is very good really and is a pretty fast connection for a mobile phone really. The main thing that really is the killer with 3G connections is the latency... 3.5 may sound reasonable... but get 12 laptops connecting at once...

eXDee said:
I have a telstra desire a8183 which is running on the Telecom XT network - nationwide 850mhz 3g coverage, which has recently been upgraded to HSPA+ in many places.
But I cant break the slower 3.6mbps speed despite the 7.2mbps the desire claims.
I'm standing right by a cell site now. -63db and 25asu and here's the result:
Any ideas? This is with the 5.09 radio and leedroid rom. But the stock rom and radio had the same result.
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Thats a foookin awsome speed for a mobile phone, you should be proud not putting it down lol ive neva had more that 2 or 300 kbs lol

It's best to think of your home broadband... I get 5Mb on adsl .. I'm ment to get 25Mb LOL... but my line is copper hell .. so wont get up that fast !! same with 3G and H .... it may have an ideal speed .. but actual speeds are about 2Mb or less on a 7.5 link... so 3Mb is good...
happy surfing !!

I've reached 3.9Mbs once (at 4 o clock in the night, outside and perfect weather conditions), usually mines down at 2.
If you want a stable and fast connection get a fiber cable. They're soo stable and I usually reach max speeds
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Ah cheers guys. I didnt realise overheads + congestion were that huge on cellular. I know somewhere which would have VERY few people on it and is running both 2100mhz and 850mhz 3G. Might try a speedtest there sometime.
This mobile network is hardly congested i'd say, only been around for a year or so.
dgattenb said:
It's best to think of your home broadband... I get 5Mb on adsl .. I'm ment to get 25Mb LOL... but my line is copper hell .. so wont get up that fast !! same with 3G and H .... it may have an ideal speed .. but actual speeds are about 2Mb or less on a 7.5 link... so 3Mb is good...
happy surfing !!
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I have an ISAM cabinet 200m from my house - 21Mbps sync rate, 19Mbps actual speed
But approx $1.20 per GB for ADSL
zlayaa said:
I've reached 3.9Mbs once (at 4 o clock in the night, outside and perfect weather conditions), usually mines down at 2.
If you want a stable and fast connection get a fiber cable. They're soo stable and I usually reach max speeds
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I just managed 4.1Mbps with -59dB and 29asu to probably the least used speedtest server in the country at a guess. This is making more sense now.
Mobile data in NZ is rather expensive and very capped - im on a 512mb plan.

Max ive had with my Telstra desire on Telstra's network was 4.14mbps down and 1.17 up. And this was a near empty in-building cell with 100mbps backhaul.
Not bad. I would actually say you will only achieve about 60% of the chipset's maximum speed due to overheads, air retransmissions etc

Just for information; made some tests with speedtest app on a cpl of servers, max download speed I could see was 4,6 mbit/s (my location Gothenburg/Swe, test server Aarhus/Denmark, it was 16:15 local time) and upload speed was appr 1 mbit/s, that was the highest speeds i hv reached by far. Hv no any clue abt technical details in terms of hsdpa, hsupa or whatever hw configuration built in my phone (unbranded, unrooted HTC Desire with official froyo, network: 3 Sweden)
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Dallas, Texas - This speed test was done using Internet Sharing on Win XP
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T-Mobile EDGE in Las Vegas on Schap's latest WWE Lite ROM. As you can see, EDGE blows... I wish I was on Cingular's 3G network
Yukkers!
I personally don't rate this site much. Somewhat limited, but in all fairness functional.
Try this one for a bit more variety (and it's global)
http://speedtest.net/
So you feel Speedtest.net is more accurate compared to dslreports.com and frontiernet.net?
DSL Reports Speed Test
08/12/07
0900 hrs
Baltimore, MD, USA
1 MB file
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792 Kb/sec
0.421s Latency
10.75s d/l time
Will try some of the other speed test sites and report back. Any hints to speed up time?
stevebonning said:
08/12/07
0900 hrs
Baltimore, MD, USA
1 MB file
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792 Kb/sec
0.421s Latency
10.75s d/l time
Will try some of the other speed test sites and report back. Any hints to speed up time?
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Nah.. If I could, we would all own Kaisers by now
tbh
speed test sites are generally not very accurate for reporting true sustained speeds, the best thing to do is download a 3-4mb files (such as an mp3) and measure the time it takes.
On tmob in central london using this I manage an average of 1mbps
How did you guys get the speedtest.net to work?
My Hermes/PIE tells me it needs Flash 7, yet it doesn't seem to be available for the mobile market yet.
well, flash is avaible for wm 5....
just go to adobe.com and search for it..
or take this link:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer_pocketpc/downloads/player.html
;-)
Regards
Thanks very much. I must be going blind. I looked all over the Adode site
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T-Mobile EDGE in Las Vegas on Schap's latest WWE Lite ROM. As you can see, EDGE blows... I wish I was on Cingular's 3G network
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I agree in denver we just got moved to the 3g network. My speed test as this morning was 1100kbps or 137KB
..DL/UL speed in Penang, Malaysia (Celcom 3G/UMTS 2100), all tests done on PC, teethering vide USB using device ICS, within this few hrs..
Doesnt really matter. No one is getting over 1.2mbit a sec. I've had wifi enabled and sat the phone directly on top of the router and the max I can get is 1.1-1.2mbit downstream. Avg 700-1mbit on hsdpa at&t 3g network in toledo, OH.
I guess you guys are testing from your PC's not your PPC as I still can not get speedtest.net to work on my Hermes.
Anyhow here's my connection speed on my ADSL
tzb said:
I guess you guys are testing from your PC's not your PPC as I still can not get speedtest.net to work on my Hermes.
Anyhow here's my connection speed on my ADSL
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man.. only wish that we can get that kind of speed with our pocket pc using HSDPA.. wait till super HSDPA is here where it won't be limited to 1.8Mbps..
anyway, testing with your PC while teethering vide Internet Connection Sharing is one way to gauge your HSDPA/3G speed..
nonetheless below is the test I done directly on my 838pro (go here
Code:
http://text.dslreports.com/mspeed?t=4&s=100&r=26461&w=
) on your Pocket IE to do the test..
this test was done, while device is connected to PC & internet sharing was running, therefore it would not be that accurate, ..though shown as not at a "superspeed "but HSDPA speed nonetheless..
& here is what the PC shown when test was done, .. tested more or less during the same period..
the speed will fluctuate, but for us with HSDPA connection, as long it is above 384 kbps, it should be ok...

Vodafone HSDPA - does it exist?

I've just cancelled my Desire/TMobile contract under Distance Selling Regs due to lack of 3G coverage in my area. Occasionally I would find a pocket of superfast 2Mbps HSDPA coverage, but mostly it was crap 2G.
I still have my Vodafone contract running so I'm thinking of staying with them and upgrading (although they're more expensive than TMob).
I've done a few speedtests, and I never get more than 0.47Mps on a 3G signal, although this is available nearly everywhere. Never seen an H.
Can anyone tell me if Vodafone provides the faster H connection anywhere, and whether I'm ever likely to see it in Suffolk?
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setspeed said:
I've just cancelled my Desire/TMobile contract under Distance Selling Regs due to lack of 3G coverage in my area. Occasionally I would find a pocket of superfast 2Mbps HSDPA coverage, but mostly it was crap 2G.
I still have my Vodafone contract running so I'm thinking of staying with them and upgrading (although they're more expensive than TMob).
I've done a few speedtests, and I never get more than 0.47Mps on a 3G signal, although this is available nearly everywhere. Never seen an H.
Can anyone tell me if Vodafone provides the faster H connection anywhere, and whether I'm ever likely to see it in Suffolk?
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I can confirm that I have a H connection on Vodafone (Cardiff). Just tested on the Ookla Speedtest app and getting 1312kbps download and 1296kbps upload.
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Holy jeebus, that's awesome! I'm jealous... I need to get out of the backwaters and live somewhere I can get a decent signal :-(
1753 kbs down 1314 kbs up . Warrington (in the middle of manchester and liverpool) for people who don't know with 3 bars on reception..
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setspeed said:
Holy jeebus, that's awesome! I'm jealous... I need to get out of the backwaters and live somewhere I can get a decent signal :-(
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It was even in the middle of ASDA
Here just down the road (Literally) in Essex
Rusty! said:
It was even in the middle of ASDA
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How did you get the screenshot?
Run the speedtest app, tell it you want to email the result (I picked via GMail, doubt it matters). In the email is a link to a .png file, which is the pic you're after.
Cheers mate I really should learn to press the menu key when I can't find something!
dreamdealer said:
1753 kbs down 1314 kbs up . Warrington (in the middle of manchester and liverpool) for people who don't know with 3 bars on reception..
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I blame the volcanic ash for mine..
Of course, Vodafone has the fastest RAN.
dreamdealer said:
I blame the volcanic ash for mine..
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Got this result a couple of hours later
Niiiiiiiice.
I shall have to run a few more tests in an attempt to beat you lol
Bare in mind speedtest.net is one of the most inaccurate speedtests on the Internet...I wouldn't look to much into it
EddyOS said:
Bare in mind speedtest.net is one of the most inaccurate speedtests on the Internet...I wouldn't look to much into it
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i agree with you, that score took me bout 5 attempts. others were on average about 2-3 mb/s. and was surprised it pulled out that speed. but just goes to show your not far off the mark because when i ran the test it said 100 miles to London, and the png came out as 50 miles. maybe there's some technicality i am missing somewhere on why that happens, but it did so i have to admit i really font know why.
Hmmm. I was using Mordax Speedtest and got 589kbps, then installed and ran Speedtest.net and got 2101kbps!
The Mordax one doesn't run as long as the Speedtest, but even still - such a wide disparity! I don't know which I trust, if either!
EDIT: Xtremelabs speedtest gives me 1453kbps
Different speed tests will use different servers, that's why you get variable results.
setspeed said:
I've just cancelled my Desire/TMobile contract under Distance Selling Regs due to lack of 3G coverage in my area. Occasionally I would find a pocket of superfast 2Mbps HSDPA coverage, but mostly it was crap 2G.
I still have my Vodafone contract running so I'm thinking of staying with them and upgrading (although they're more expensive than TMob).
I've done a few speedtests, and I never get more than 0.47Mps on a 3G signal, although this is available nearly everywhere. Never seen an H.
Can anyone tell me if Vodafone provides the faster H connection anywhere, and whether I'm ever likely to see it in Suffolk?
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I tested mine yesterday, was pleasantly suprised!
This was quite early in the morning, but after repeated tests today it seems I always get around 4Mb/s
setspeed said:
I've just cancelled my Desire/TMobile contract under Distance Selling Regs due to lack of 3G coverage in my area. Occasionally I would find a pocket of superfast 2Mbps HSDPA coverage, but mostly it was crap 2G.
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How did you cancel a contract you had already agreed to?

[Q] Just upgraded from a Nexus One but data speeds are almost the same

I picked up a brand new G2 off craigslist and I've rooted it already. Phone is awesome. I can finally stream my Amazon Video On Demand collection without a hitch. I'm not noticing too much of a difference when I run speedtest.net though.
Do I have to change my data plan with T-Mobile? I live and work in LA so maybe the network is just jammed.
no speeds in LA just suck that bad. ive driven around all LA and never been able to get those hspa+ speeds, im thinking LA isnt enabled yet. but call tmobile and complain because when i called and said i wasnt the only when experiencing that they said it could be the phone.. my friend has a g2 also, and i dont think shes getting the speeds either. so make sure you call!! hopefullly either theyll tell us the truth or send some patch or something idk
I also live in LA, (commute between Long Beach and El Segundo) and I don't get the advertised data speeds... just the regular ole 3G speeds here.
In my area, I've actually seen not a boost in speed but a boost in reception quality moving from my N1 (which I still love ever so much, and might just sell my G2 for ). I stay on 3G/HSPDA in more areas than I used to. And I drop down to 2g less often during tower switches.
it all depends on location, for example, I live in a suburb of Chicago where the new network is supposed to be already up at, (about 5 miles away) and I get horrible speeds in my home (0.90 MBits) then about 20 miles in the other direction from Chicago (Aurora) speedtest said i was estimated at less than 5 miles from the aurora server in IL. I got speeds of nearly 9 MBits. I would complain but after some testing I guess it's just my location and could be the same problem for you, or I could just be high and we all have shoddy phones.
+1 for location. I'm in NYC so even with HSDPA enabled, I get 3G like speeds, a little faster, but when I go out to the suburbs, I get about 5Mbps which is quick, wifi like speeds.
jamesfrom818 said:
I picked up a brand new G2 off craigslist and I've rooted it already. Phone is awesome. I can finally stream my Amazon Video On Demand collection without a hitch. I'm not noticing too much of a difference when I run speedtest.net though.
Do I have to change my data plan with T-Mobile? I live and work in LA so maybe the network is just jammed.
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yea.. prolly too many ppl hoggin up the bandwidth there.. here's my speed test right now (3pm PST):
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A faster phone isn't going to give you faster data speeds if the network is the bottleneck.
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A faster phone isn't going to give you faster data speeds if the network is the bottleneck.
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Very true. At home I get 6Mbps pretty consistently, and the speeds are just downright incredible! At work I get a measly 300-400Kbps because the tower that I'm near at work is still stuck on 3G, not to mention I have horrible coverage in general at work (signal drops all the time).
I have reception in walmart now lol
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At home my speeds are usually between 4 and 6 megs down and 700k up. My wife has a Vibrant and she gets around 3 to 4 megs down. I think we just live I'm a good coverage area. In some places I'll drop down to 1mb down. That's still dsl like speeds lol.
I live in kansas city.
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...I can finally stream my Amazon Video On Demand collection without a hitch...
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How do you manage this? I have a G2 as well - coming from a rooted G1. I'm guessing you have to set the browser mode to "desktop browswer" and just sign in to Amazon VOD?
I don't really feel the need to root my phone, since it comes with wifi tether built in, but I really want to be able to stream Amazon VOD...
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How do you manage this? I have a G2 as well - coming from a rooted G1. I'm guessing you have to set the browser mode to "desktop browswer" and just sign in to Amazon VOD?
I don't really feel the need to root my phone, since it comes with wifi tether built in, but I really want to be able to stream Amazon VOD...
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Also curious to hear about your method of watching amazon on demand.

Hspa +

So here in austin tx I hit 7.69 mbps down and 1.23 up.
Any good speeds out there?
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Here in Seattle, I just got 10390, 11574, and 10063 down on three consecutive tests using mobilespeedtest.
Using Ookla's SpeedTest app, I could only get 2.5 down/0.6 up, without having moved the phone *at all*.
Mobilespeedtest isn't accurate. The speedtest.net app is the one that you should trust.
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Ha I'm in austin with around 6 down and 1.02 up. At least that's the general average with speedtest.net.
Yeehaw
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So what type of upload speeds should we be getting, is the phone HSUPA compatible? With all this talk about the Atrix and it's upload speeds, it makes me wonder if I am getting cheated out of faster upload speeds. Thanks for listening.
Never seen more than 5mps dl and 4 upload. In las vegas, no more than a mile away from a 3g listed tower. Phone shows -71dbm when I tested just outside of my house and looking in the direction of where the tower is.
My wifi gives me almost 9mbps second down and 4 to 7 upload. (I don't pay for the really fast speed service at home)
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chinly43 said:
Here in Seattle, I just got 10390, 11574, and 10063 down on three consecutive tests using mobilespeedtest.
Using Ookla's SpeedTest app, I could only get 2.5 down/0.6 up, without having moved the phone *at all*.
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I'm in Seattle and got 1159kbps on mobilespeedtest. But I got 3005kbps on speedtest app. My average at home is between 2.5mbps and 3mbps on speedtest app and speedtest.net tethered. I don't know about that mobilespeedtest. The first test gave me 700kb, the second 1159 and the third 2186 within 2 minutes. Speedtest.net has always been more consistent than that for me, and pretty comparable to my other go-to, integra.net (also Ookla FWIW though.)
Chinly43 (or anyone in Seattle): Hope you don't mind if I pick your brain about the G2 in Seattle. I tried to check out your posts but am unclear if you found a good radio, or other solution, that gets the G2 to stop freaking out while traveling around the city? Does yours freeze up and lag? Are you getting dropped calls? Can you tell me what solution worked for you? I am in Northgate but problems started in Bellevue and also the University area while on the bus. At home my data flickers into H+ intermittently but remains on 3G 99.9% of the time. Thanks for any advice you can give.
hit 7 mbps the other day in houston. BUT i was never to replicate it.
I feel that HSPA+ is a myth. Any time I have looked at a tmousa 4G phone's mobile network type to see which network it is connected to, it ALWAYS says HSDPA. Can anyone tell me if it ever says HSPA, HSPA+, or if it is just supposed to say HSDPA?
The most i could get in Italy with speedtest.net was 6.07Mbps down and 3.14 up... even though I think the carrier's network just supports 7.2, hopefully in a few months it will be upgraded to 14.4
The most I've ever seen in Orlando was 8mbps dl, maybe 2mbps ul. On average though I get less than that, depending on the area I'm in.
my speeds
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there good speeds but could be better
heres my link to my speeds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn3Iw_73vSw

3G Speeds Lacking

Hey guys, just got my phone yesterday. This thing is blazing fast compared to my OC'd DINC in terms of processing power. However, my 3G speeds suck! My DINC would consistently be 1.5 mbps down and 500kbps up at my house. With the Nexus my very best has been 600kbps up. I have my friend's Droid Pro right next to my Nexus getting a full mbps faster than me.
This is a big deal for me as I only get 3G half the time I use my phone.
I am on the stock OS and kernel with unlocked bootloader and root. I also have CDMA only enabled.
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So you get 100kbit better speeds upstream and that's bad? Sounds like you are just limited by whatever signal you get in your area as the 1.5 down is still not max for a dinc.
Edit: Sorry I couldn't see your screenshot in tapatalk had to paste the image shack URL into a browser, i was going from what you said. Those are some crap speeds. Try getting a new SIM from your carrier.
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It can be really hard to know if it's better or worse. There are so many variables that come into play like the congestion on the tower/network and congestion on the server your conducting the speed test on.
You don't need a new SIM if your EVDO speeds suck, you just.. are kind of SoL. I'm surprised you see 1.5 mpbs on your Incredible though, my EVDO speeds in Chicago were awful.
This is about the Max speed I can get where I live, Orange UK
Would you say that's a decent speed ??
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3m down is really good at least where I live, on the old 05/02 radio best I saw was 1.9 down now with the 06/04 radios I'm averaging about 2-2.5m down 1m up
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This is about the Max speed I can get where I live, Orange UK
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Would you say that's a decent speed ??
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OP is talking about CDMA on Verizon. Which is never going to do any better than 1.5mbps or so.
Those speeds you're getting aren't great. But I'd just ask other users on the network where you live.
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Edit: Sorry I couldn't see your screenshot in tapatalk had to paste the image shack URL into a browser, i was going from what you said. Those are some crap speeds. Try getting a new SIM from your carrier.
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Sorry about that, I reposted the picture. Again, this is from a CDMA Nexus. My friend who has his nexus is consistently over 1mbps. However, his dad who has a Nexus is in the same boat as me.
Really baffled by this one.
I thonk 3.2 mbps is the best you can do on verizon iirc.
Crazy world, ay?
I have the same problem, I made a thread about this on droid forums here:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/ga...ns/189683-signal-sucks-verizon-you-wrong.html
Compared to my old Droid X and a family members Droid RAZR my Galaxy Nexus doesn't even get HALF the speed and VERY crappy signal with constant dropped calls and trouble with data. Switching from Wi-fi to 3g takes from a couple of minutes to having to reboot the phone completely just for 3g to activate! This problem NEEDS to be fixed, verizon's solution to just increase the bars visually is a slap in the face to us experiencing this problem!
LaGgY_42o said:
I have the same problem, I made a thread about this on droid forums here:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/ga...ns/189683-signal-sucks-verizon-you-wrong.html
Compared to my old Droid X and a family members Droid RAZR my Galaxy Nexus doesn't even get HALF the speed and VERY crappy signal with constant dropped calls and trouble with data. Switching from Wi-fi to 3g takes from a couple of minutes to having to reboot the phone completely just for 3g to activate! This problem NEEDS to be fixed, verizon's solution to just increase the bars visually is a slap in the face to us experiencing this problem!
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Exchange it. It's defective. No problems here.
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