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Pro 2 or Hero?

I just recently bought a Palm Pre and returned it, hated it! So I bought the touch pro knowing it cam out almost a year ago (impulse buy). Now I am just curious, I know the touch pro 2 is coming to sprint, but its rumored that the hero will be out for sprint later this year, possibly December. Which one should i wait for?

i think major difference is the qwerty keyboard so decide if you need this or not.

lhwparis said:
i think major difference is the qwerty keyboard so decide if you need this or not.
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+ one is android and other WM, usually a big difference depending on what you like.

That will depend on what is for you need the device
TP2: Buissness oriented device with the second best physical keyboard (1st is from Universal)
Hero: Multimedia oriented device with an OS tha promises a lot in the future, by now it needs to grow up and madurate

Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.

SuperAdvan said:
Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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Haha, yeah I know, keyboard is a big deal to me. It's just WM seems to disappoint me a lot. Although I have high hopes for 6.5, I'm thinking sprint is waiting for 6.5 to release to touch pro 2, it would make it all that better!
But still, functionality versus a keyboard, I don't know! haah

I know what you mean about WM, but HTC have done a great job of masking the dull and boring monolike OS with Touchflo from what I have seen and WM 6.5 looks like a vast improvement at least visually.
Personally I think you, like me, would probably get bored of Android and the touch screen keypad would drive me nuts in the end.
I tried typing on an Iphone 3GS yesterday to get a (improved) idea of what a Diamond 2 or Hero might be like and with my fingers theres no chance I would type quickly on that ever, it would be like trying to look behind you without moving your head.
TP2 is the way to go, however the Omnia Pro is coming soon too, but then the Nvidia Tegra chipset powered HTC HD sequal is comign - I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.

SuperAdvan said:
however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
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the shape is virtually the same as the G1, and I've never heard anyone complain about any discomfort when they put the G1 in their pocket. and there may not be a hardware KB, but as far as onscreen KB's go, it looks like the Hero's will be one of best so far. and I like how the screen is capacitive and thus supports multi touch.
personally, I'm getting the TP2 when it comes out on AT&T. I'm also planning on picking up an unlocked Hero (unless it finds its way to the states, specifically AT&T). just want something else to play around with

Please buy both. Both has different strength, features & abilities. Both are totally different. I hope i will get one if god willing

For me it will be the one with the biggest screen & WM on it...TP2!

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For me it will be the one with the biggest screen & WM on it...TP2!
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Yeah but the hero has a capacitive screen right? or am I wrong about that? Im actually not sure but I would think that it does because all the other android ones by HTC ara capacitive
Edit: I checked and im pretty sure its capacitive but I just browsed through search results

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530600

The same question has been haunting me lately too. I've been waiting forever for the TP2 to come to AT&T and now I see this. If they end up having release dates close together I'm thinking I might go with the hero. The main thing that will bother me is the lack of keyboard since I'm coming from a Kaiser (Tilt).
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White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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White is not definite. Colors and providers are yet to be determined according to an HTC rep on a youtube video that I saw earlier (If I can track it down again I'll include it with an edit....)
SuperAdvan said:
I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.
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Agreed, but there's one big difference. You can get an upgrade discount on phones once every 1.5 years, otherwise you're paying out your A$$. Graphics cards are always the same (usually relatively lower) price.

SuperAdvan said:
I know what you mean about WM, but HTC have done a great job of masking the dull and boring monolike OS with Touchflo from what I have seen and WM 6.5 looks like a vast improvement at least visually.
Personally I think you, like me, would probably get bored of Android and the touch screen keypad would drive me nuts in the end.
I tried typing on an Iphone 3GS yesterday to get a (improved) idea of what a Diamond 2 or Hero might be like and with my fingers theres no chance I would type quickly on that ever, it would be like trying to look behind you without moving your head.
TP2 is the way to go, however the Omnia Pro is coming soon too, but then the Nvidia Tegra chipset powered HTC HD sequal is comign - I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.
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Yeah you seem like you have the same thoughts as I do. I think you're right about getting tired with the android phone. I love messing with WM and modding it. I know you can with android, but it will have its limits. The thing about touch pro 2 not being a capacitive touch screen, it bums me out and makes me ask why they won't do this with WM yet. I can say they have been improving their resistive screens, big difference from the mogul to the touch pro, so I hope they can do that again. I am definitely leaning toward the touch pro 2. Does anyone know why they won't go with the capacitive screen on WM or touch pro 2?

josiah7 said:
Yeah you seem like you have the same thoughts as I do. I think you're right about getting tired with the android phone. I love messing with WM and modding it. I know you can with android, but it will have its limits. The thing about touch pro 2 not being a capacitive touch screen, it bums me out and makes me ask why they won't do this with WM yet. I can say they have been improving their resistive screens, big difference from the mogul to the touch pro, so I hope they can do that again. I am definitely leaning toward the touch pro 2. Does anyone know why they won't go with the capacitive screen on WM or touch pro 2?
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This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.

SuperAdvan said:
Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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LOL! Yeah, I don't like the shape of it too..
I would go for TP2 as it's not going to disappoint you!

Hard descision
touch pro 2 is coming to tmobile august 8th and hero im not sure but the magic is coming july 8th..the resisitive touch screen on the pro is so smooth it feels like its capacitive..and its alot bigger screen and has multitouch..but the hero has android and its built very nicely with the teflon coat and finger print proof screen..i hate phones so many choices ((

Mi|enko said:
This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.
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The resistive screen is one of the selling points for me, especially one as finger-friendly as TP2s. Best of both worlds. I get easy navigation without having to constantly sheath and unsheath the stylus, but I can use a compact and conveniently tucked away stylus when needed. I very much doubt I'll ever need it for the basic interface, but with some apps I'll want it. My Palm TX has been my primary Chinese-English dictionary for some time (before it, my Palm T|T and m500 served the same purpose), and the same software is available for WinMo. I'd just as soon use a stylus for character recognition. For that matter, I'd just as soon use a stylus for handwritten memos. I imagine capacitative screen users get by on both fronts just fine, but for me, I'm glad there's a good resistive screen still available.

Mi|enko said:
This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.
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So far with my TP2, I have not used the stylus at all and I am a pretty heavy business user, thats emails, facebook, youtube, general browsing and posting on forums, stock, sms.
Whats more I have yet to use the actual qwerty keyboard aswell, I find the touch one good enough everytime unless I'm typing a huge email or document.
My advice is go and actually look at the Diamond 2 and TP2 in the flesh, it is totally different to looking at it on the internet, it really is a quality product.

bobdude5 said:
touch pro 2 is coming to tmobile august 8th and hero im not sure but the magic is coming july 8th..the resisitive touch screen on the pro is so smooth it feels like its capacitive..and its alot bigger screen and has multitouch..but the hero has android and its built very nicely with the teflon coat and finger print proof screen..i hate phones so many choices ((
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sorry to burst your bubble, sir, but the TP2 doesn't support multi touch. that luxury is reserved for devices that have a capacitive display. and while the TP2 feels like it's capacitive, it isn't. the Hero, on the other hand, IS capacitive and therefore the screen supports multi touch

Which is gonna be best to get?

hi with all the leaks of the new mobiles that are to be released which one is going to be the best 1 to get thats gonna keeps me going for at least 2 years.

With WP7, the specs are all standardized. The options are pretty much personal decisions..
How much storage do you want?
Do you value a physical keyboard?
Which do you think looks the best?
How big of a screen do you want?
What models will work on your carrier (this will probably limit you the most)?
Noone can answer those questions for you. The things that would affect longevity (CPU, RAM) are all standard on WP7 so really won't differ much if at all.

richard1978 said:
hi with all the leaks of the new mobiles that are to be released which one is going to be the best 1 to get thats gonna keeps me going for at least 2 years.
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go with hTC Hd3~ haha

question is when is the hd3 gonna be released? One things for sure i dont want a small screen nothing less than 3.8 but would prefer 4 and above

I looking for more of a Touch Pro3 type device. Although I would love to see a 4"+ screen with a slide out keyboard.

I'll probably end up with a Samsung whenever I decide to switch. I don't know what it is, but I always ended up with a Samsung in my pocket for the last 4-5 years now.
I went from the Samsung i630 -> i760 -> Omnia II (i920)
Probably has to do more with Verizon being my provider than any affinity I have for Samsung.

what I'm wondering, .I'm from the netherlands, and also wantto buy it in october, but the dutch version won't be there then yet. So, can I also buy the english version here, or do I need to export it?
cheers
vic

richard1978 said:
question is when is the hd3 gonna be released? One things for sure i dont want a small screen nothing less than 3.8 but would prefer 4 and above
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According to pdadb.net the HTC Mondrian/Schubert /Mozart's predecessor model is the HD2, so basically, this will be the HD3.
pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2388&c=htc_mondrian__schubert__mozart
But to answer your question, RustyGrom couldn't have said it any better, but the best thing to do right now is not to get into any contracts until at least November, I just canceled Sprint and now have and HD2 with T-Mob, contract less...

I must say all those leaked devices recently look very bad.
Besides Dell Lightning.

doministry said:
I must say all those leaked devices recently look very bad.
Besides Dell Lightning.
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I liked the square Asus was it...there was something else square that looked nice...was it another Samsung maybe? But it's weird...that samsung taylor prototype look has grown on me, lol. But I can't wait to see reviews instead of leaks.

PDADB?
Is there another site that organizes the upcoming models better?

Well, as always Sprint is last to get a phone. The only positive is lately Sprint has the best looking and performing phones out (Evo and Epic). I hope this trend continues and Sprint drops a real monster this winter.

There is a decent round up here...
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/35093/windows-phone-7-launch-phones

now we know the models that are being released which is gonna be best, now im more prone to the hd7 or the omnia 7 manly being screen size not sure which yet. So which would you pick and why?

I'm partial to the Samsungs with the S-AMOLED screens. WP7, even more than other OSes, looks great on a AMOLED screen.

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I'm partial to the Samsungs with the S-AMOLED screens. WP7, even more than other OSes, looks great on a AMOLED screen.
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ditto - plus SD card support as well if that pans out.

From people who have had hands-on sessions and the lucky few who have received their review units already, I've been hearing Mozart and Omnia are the nicest. The general consensus seems to be that the HD7 doesn't feel quite right, too big, too shiny and WP7 somehow feels better on the smaller screens.
The Trophy seems to be winning a lot of praise too, though I think that's on the presumption that it will be quite a bit cheaper than the Mozart.

Yeah the Mozart is a very nice looking device. My only concern is no SAMOLED. I agree with the above post about WP7 looking best with an AMOLED screen. However, I'm not too sure I want a phone with Samsung's build quality. Decisions.. decisions..

The LG phones actually look good in the reviews Ive seen which is a bit of a shocker as Ive never like LG for phones that much in the past...

Well... I prefer the HD7... it just looks like THE WP7 device... it just stands out, that gorgeous 4.3 inch screen? that beautiful camera(2 LED!), the stand! the other devices are small and weak... the Dell one just looks ugly(I thought it looked like the BlackBerry Style)
Still, speed is no issue with any of them...

samsung i8700 video

NICE ONE!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/06/samsung-i8700-put-through-13-minute-video-expose/

The Display is nice, but the phone is too big.

Hirnteri said:
The Display is nice, but the phone is too big.
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All the new phones are "too big" :S.. I'm hoping for a Win Phone 7 with the same size as the HTC Diamond 2... I hate huge phones like the nexus, hd2 and iphone :S

I will buy the htc Mozart. This One is little. It smaller. Like the desire.

Nice cell phone ! I will buy one.

My goodness that looks like a nice phone!!!

Is it a Samsung Captivate with a new OS?

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Is it a Samsung Captivate with a new OS?
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Hope so, because that'd mean there's a humminbird/SGX540 in it with a 4in Super Amoled screen, but the person who leaked the vid says it's a 3.7in screen. And like most people are saying here, it will most likely have the Snapdragon processor.

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Hope so, because that'd mean there's a humminbird/SGX540 in it with a 4in Super Amoled screen, but the person who leaked the vid says it's a 3.7in screen. And like most people are saying here, it will most likely have the Snapdragon processor.
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Hmmm...the US (att) Samsung Captivate has some pretty troubling issues on the reliability front. Granted it has a WM OS, however, most of the issues seem to be hardware related.
I am pretty underwhelmed by the three rumored handsets set to be announced in a few days. I'll end up purchasing one of them, simply to support the OS, but all of them look pretty ho hum. I really though that Microsoft was going to come out swinging this time around. Apparently not. The OS looks slick, though incomplete, and the hardware looks minimal instead of trend setting. Bottom line is that an WP7 handset announced next week will be eclipsed in technology by holiday sales period. That is pretty sad.

HTC HD7 Engadget Review

Hey guys the Engadget team has reviewed the HTC HD7.
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In my opinion I believe Windows 7 mobile is beautiful and well made. I think this a winning mobile OS for MIcrosoft.

Yeah it does seem to be a vast improvement over Windows 6.5.

Are you getting paid each time we click your links??? I mean seriously ? WTF is up with that.

complete "meh"...
It should be called the "hTc HD2 II iLeo".
lol.
just sayin'.

That review was really unfair... that device is the best on the market, the only way you can tell if that screen is weird or not is if you compare it, alone it looks beautiful. the surround's speakers blow and it is so thick!

The display is objectively terrible. HTC has an unhealthy addiction with reusing old stock/designs on new devices, which is probably what made it use a vanilla TFT-LCD panel on a device that is all about the display.
Omnia is the best WP7 launch device, unless some showstopping hardware defect is found.

Are posters allowed to post affiliate links so they make money?

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The display is objectively terrible. HTC has an unhealthy addiction with reusing old stock/designs on new devices, which is probably what made it use a vanilla TFT-LCD panel on a device that is all about the display.
Omnia is the best WP7 launch device, unless some showstopping hardware defect is found.
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Objectively terrible....Hmm have you actually seen a HD7 in the flesh or are you taking it from a poorly crafted review? The display is actually far better than the HD2 with richer colours, better back lighting (more even) and it's nice and bright. The design is also subtly different, far better camera, sound quality is excellent. Maybe try one for yourself before criticising, personally I only like to comment on items when I have something informed to say!

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Objectively terrible....Hmm have you actually seen a HD7 in the flesh or are you taking it from a poorly crafted review? The display is actually far better than the HD2 with richer colours, better back lighting (more even) and it's nice and bright. The design is also subtly different, far better camera, sound quality is excellent. Maybe try one for yourself before criticising, personally I only like to comment on items when I have something informed to say!
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You can see the display by lookimg at an Evo. Fon't embarass yourself. The quality is terrible, ESPECIALLY compared to a Super AMOLED display. Evo looks washed out compared to Galaxy S. The same will be true for HD7 vs Omnia 7.
However, I would suicide before buying another Samsung phone.
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Samsung are well known how they always ruined a marvellous hardware with crap and buggy software (customization), inadequate support and no upgrades. Not any more, since the WP7 does not allow OEM customizations and going to be supported directly from Microsoft (one of the best thing about it).
So Samsung can't screw us up anymore, well i hope

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You can see the display by lookimg at an Evo. Fon't embarass yourself. The quality is terrible, ESPECIALLY compared to a Super AMOLED display. Evo looks washed out compared to Galaxy S. The same will be true for HD7 vs Omnia 7.
However, I would suicide before buying another Samsung phone.
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Really, so I have the device in my hands as well as a Galaxy S and you are looking at an Evo, and I shouldn't embarrass myself Hmm! Most people who have the HD7 are more than happy with both the build quality and the screen. As I stated the display is better than the HD2 (Evo) so you are incorrect! and yes I have actually had a HD2 as well! The HD7 is using a newer screen.
Since I have upgraded my Galaxy S to Froyo it seems to be running far better. Using the HD7 now though as my main phone.
ps not take things so personally that you feel you need to attack me!

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Really, so I have the device in my hands as well as a Galaxy S and you are looking at an Evo, and I shouldn't embarrass myself Hmm! Most people who have the HD7 are more than happy with both the build quality and the screen. As I stated the display is better than the HD2 (Evo) so you are incorrect! and yes I have actually had a HD2 as well! The HD7 is using a newer screen.
Since I have upgraded my Galaxy S to Froyo it seems to be running far better. Using the HD7 now though as my main phone.
ps not take things so personally that you feel you need to attack me!
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Mind posting a couple side by side pics of the HD2 and HD7?

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Mind posting a couple side by side pics of the HD2 and HD7?
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Sorry I can't the HD2 is with a colleague of mine, I won't be seeing him for another couple of weeks. I had the HD2 for 6 months before I gave it to him so I remember the screen quality. If you want to wait 2 weeks I can

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Are you getting paid each time we click your links??? I mean seriously ? WTF is up with that.
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+1
I wasn't expecting to be redirected to a potentially harmful ad site.

Google and Samsung superphone Nexus Prime

Nexus Prime suppose to come with a:
TI OMAP 1.5ghz dual core processor
720p 4.65" screen
Android 4.0 - Ice Cream Sandwich
No physical buttons
1gb of ram
What do you guys think? Im so stocked to get this beast.
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Pointless video.
Screen is too big for me. 3.7 is perferct
No Physical buttons. I like physical buttons. Gives me more confidence in case of failure
Made by Samsung. Will feel cheap?

rootSU said:
Pointless video.
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No Physical buttons. I like physical buttons. Gives me more confidence in case of failure
Made by Samsung. Will feel cheap?
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Couldn't agree more, such size screens are just stupid, you are getting in to realms of tab territory then, really who needs a screen of nearly 5 inches on a phone?
Samsung's really do feel cheap, having played with the majority of their releases, they all feel like a lump of plastic, HTC on the other hand feel solid and well built.
And to top it all I hate Samsung's interface, sense IMO is the king of android UI.
I don't think I could bring myself to move away from the look Ive become used to.
If HTC bought out a phone the same size and look as the desire, with the latest android, dual core, more internal memory possibly 32gb or even just a couple but with 2 micro sd slots then I'm sure it would be a best seller again.
HTC if you are reading, please make it happen They could call it Ultimate Desire

Yeah, but with Google it will be vanilla UI
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Yeah, it won't be using TouchWiz if it is a Nexus device. And this is the XDA Developers forum - if you don't like the stock rom, change it!
I really prefer the overall look and feel of my Desire, but my wife and son each have SGS2's and I must admit that I'm jealous of the extra screen size and how quickly apps load.

hehe i agree with some of the above
samsung will probably make it feel cheap and iphone-esque - as thats what they do
I like 3.7" - but the sensation might be at a push ok - 4.65" seems massive! I'll never reach my thumb across the screen holding it one handed...
I also like physical buttons - also thought the trackpad on my desire was pointless until t2w/t2u came into my life!
only thing good would be that it is pure android and no touchwiz

Someone asked me to help set up their galaxy ace the other day. I hated no track ball
It also seemed to lack a home button which was really annoying
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My contract is due to for a renewal and I am actually torn between the Sensation and Galaxy SII, and I hate the plasticness and lightness of Samsung, although Super AMOLED seems very tempting.
Bearing in mind that I have not held the Sensation in my hands yet.
What to go for, or wait for the Nexus Prime?

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My contract is due to for a renewal and I am actually torn between the Sensation and Galaxy SII, and I hate the plasticness and lightness of Samsung, although Super AMOLED seems very tempting.
Bearing in mind that I have not held the Sensation in my hands yet.
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Its tricky. The SGS2 is much better spec'd, especially in the screen. But if I get mugged I want a phone that will dent the offenders skull, not shatter to pieces on his face.
I cant say I am particularly swayed by either of these releases tbh. When my contract comes up I just dont know what to do.

sirlukas said:
My contract is due to for a renewal and I am actually torn between the Sensation and Galaxy SII, and I hate the plasticness and lightness of Samsung, although Super AMOLED seems very tempting.
Bearing in mind that I have not held the Sensation in my hands yet.
What to go for, or wait for the Nexus Prime?
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Hang onto your Desire, imo. They are becoming outdated, but with custom ROMs et al, can be kept pretty well abreast with the latest releases. I am gonna hang out til Q2 next year and see what is around then. jm2c
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hehe i agree with some of the above
samsung will probably make it feel cheap and iphone-esque - as thats what they do
I like 3.7" - but the sensation might be at a push ok - 4.65" seems massive! I'll never reach my thumb across the screen holding it one handed...
I also like physical buttons - also thought the trackpad on my desire was pointless until t2w/t2u came into my life!
only thing good would be that it is pure android and no touchwiz
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Concur with all of this.
My mate got a Sensation last week and, while it is a gorgeous looking piece of hardware, very hard to negotiate with one hand.
And tp2w/u is just the bees knees! When I unlock my phone using track pad, my friends are blown away with the idea...we are talking iP3/4 owners, HD7, Sensation and SGS in my group. Worst thing HTC did was lose the tactile buttons.

777ace said:
Hang onto your Desire, imo. They are becoming outdated, but with custom ROMs et al, can be kept pretty well abreast with the latest releases. I am gonna hang out til Q2 next year and see what is around then. jm2c
Concur with all of this.
My mate got a Sensation last week and, while it is a gorgeous looking piece of hardware, very hard to negotiate with one hand.
And tp2w/u is just the bees knees! When I unlock my phone using track pad, my friends are blown away with the idea...we are talking iP3/4 owners, HD7, Sensation and SGS in my group. Worst thing HTC did was lose the tactile buttons.
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everyone is doing it though - binning off all the physical buttons... I guess it 'looks cooler' or something
i also agree - keep the desire - wait for the nexus prime to calm down - then samsung and htc will release a new phone based on ICS probably with slightly better specs than the Prime soon (I say april next year)

My contract wont finish till April next year , so all the tine phoens coming out now will be affordable ( free on contract or cheaper to buy )
I am looking at the Gnote... I like the screen and teh mini tablet "esq"
my desire is fab .. but I have used the sensation and the the g2 .. but there is something missing..
for now , my Desire wins!

Yup. Ending May. May go Sim free for a while....I'm on O2 though and I either keep paying my contract + handset or go down to 500MB internet (which is NOT enough) or go SIM free and risk not being able to afford a handset

720p 4.65" screen
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The reason I won't even consider it. I wan't a phone, not a Tab

davebugyi said:
The reason I won't even consider it. I wan't a phone, not a Tab
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depends from how much useless space there is around the screen
it can be 4.65 and be with the same dimension as our desire for example, because it should also not have physical buttons
anyway is not really so big.. 4.65-3.7= 0.95 inches = 2.4 centimeters much bigger, in diagonal, than our desire..but our desire have some useless space around the screen
lets just wait when it comes out to see how it is

Is Sensation exactly the same size as Desire (external size)?
I am asking, because I have a bike mount for Desire that I use everyday when cycling to work, and wonder if Sensation would fit into it too?

777ace said:
Hang onto your Desire, imo. They are becoming outdated, but with custom ROMs et al, can be kept pretty well abreast with the latest releases. I am gonna hang out til Q2 next year and see what is around then. jm2c
Concur with all of this.
My mate got a Sensation last week and, while it is a gorgeous looking piece of hardware, very hard to negotiate with one hand.
And tp2w/u is just the bees knees! When I unlock my phone using track pad, my friends are blown away with the idea...we are talking iP3/4 owners, HD7, Sensation and SGS in my group. Worst thing HTC did was lose the tactile buttons.
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The main reason for most moving away from physical button off the main screen is concern of getting sued by apple for copyright .
Planning a funeral ?
There's an app for that .
To soon ?

Mustoura said:
The main reason for most moving away from physical button off the main screen is concern of getting sued by apple for copyright .
Planning a funeral ?
There's an app for that .
To soon ?
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Nah, Just not funny and in poor taste.
On a semi (possibly) related note, Google and Samsung Confrence on Tuesday has been cancelled.
KYI

killyouridols said:
On a semi (possibly) related note, Google and Samsung Confrence on Tuesday has been cancelled.
KYI
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I guess it looked like a good date but fell apart at the seams.
RdRR

sirlukas said:
Is Sensation exactly the same size as Desire (external size)?
I am asking, because I have a bike mount for Desire that I use everyday when cycling to work, and wonder if Sensation would fit into it too?
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most definitely not.