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new bootloader for jasjar v1.1

hi
tray it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=11271

BL 1.1 JJ
Any advantage to BL 1.0 ?
Cheers
hrb

just my 2 cents on the "updating bootloader issue":
i suggest (for people owning sim-locked universals) not to update bootloader before there is a working method for unlocking them as the sim-lock is closely linked to the bootloader. buzz mentioned he is able to unlock universals having bootloader <1.00 installed (not by an easy automatic and comfortable procedure, still manually but possible). but you never know what is included in an updated bootloader and what maybe prevents your device from getting unlocked successfully.
i personally collect and keep those new bootloaders on my harddisk but i do not update the device and stay with mine (unfortunately v1.00) until the "brick" is unlocked.
regards
peter
ps: if you never plan to unlock your device by a great software tool from any of our developers here, just don't care about my writing ;-)

I think the devise is faster now and more stabel than befor

alisultan said:
I think the devise is faster now and more stabel than befor
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Do you mean the the startup process (e.g. softreset) ?
I can't imagine, that the BL is active during normal operation.
But maybe I am wrong.
Cheers
hrb

I have some questions before I upgrade...
Will it recover my Jasjar to come out of coma (flash screen)?
Do I lose my warranty?
Is there any way to downgrade to v0.6?
THanks for your help guys :wink:

hrb said:
alisultan said:
I think the devise is faster now and more stabel than befor
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Do you mean the the startup process (e.g. softreset) ?
I can't imagine, that the BL is active during normal operation.
But maybe I am wrong.
Cheers
hrb
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yes it's faster after softrest and i notice that the operating system is more stable now

shaytaan said:
I have some questions before I upgrade...
Will it recover my Jasjar to come out of coma (flash screen)?
Do I lose my warranty?
Is there any way to downgrade to v0.6?
THanks for your help guys :wink:
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for the firest question you have to try but firest remove the sd card, fore the warranty i don't think so,downgrade to v0.6 i didn't try if you have it ubload it hear and i will try

Does upgrading the Bootloader need a hard reset ??I mean do I have to reinstall everything after I update the bootloader?
Also I have previously downloaded somewhere her the following file: BL10_RUU_UNI_V11.exe is that Version 1.0 or 1.1
this file here is jasjar_bl1.01_ruu_v1.2.exe which is that 1.01.or.version 1.2
I am a bit confused as you see, Any help will be appreciated

No hard-reset needed!
To be honest, I came from 0.6 and see no difference in speed, booting up of whatever.

alfamini said:
No hard-reset needed!
To be honest, I came from 0.6 and see no difference in speed, booting up of whatever.
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Same for me
Cheers
hrb

After I upgraded my jasjar with the new 1.1 bootloader my jasjar boots in 3 seconds!!!!---------plus 20 lol There is no speed difference. But the new boot loader seems that there may be a hint of a major os update in the future. Going from .6 to 1.1 is just insane.
Mike

problems upgraging rom after installing bl 1.01
hi all,ive just installed bl 1.01 and now cant seem to install any other roms apart from o2?.before i had 1.00 and could use any rom with maupdate etc.now that doesnt work,it says its flashed it but hasnt?has anyone else had the same problem with the new bootloader,i cant even dowgrade the damn bootloader back to 1.00.bugger cause i wanted to try the imate rom.any ideas?

Downgrade BL
How to downgrade from v1.01?
thanx

Problem. I was use this new bootloader, but before finish a see the Connection error. But now i my universal deat. I cant enter into bootloader, i cant do hardreset... only if I hold the two softkeys and use softreset, then see the displej with "press 0 to MR or X to continue". But 0 and X now has no effect.
Please help, thanks for any solutions !

jerrry said:
Problem. I was use this new bootloader, but before finish a see the Connection error. But now i my universal deat. I cant enter into bootloader, i cant do hardreset... only if I hold the two softkeys and use softreset, then see the displej with "press 0 to MR or X to continue". But 0 and X now has no effect.
Please help, thanks for any solutions !
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Please read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=259003
You get one of the problem posted there!

ufff
thank you. Flashed and works...

How ?
How to flashed bootloader ?
Thanks !!

I got my Qtek 9000 back from repair (stuck in splash screen) and I now find version 2.01 of the bootloader on the machine. This then seems to be the latest.

I bought my new JasJar a week ago and it has Bootloader V2.01 on it just as an FYI =0)

NO GSM problem! any solution?

Hi All,
I am facing the dreaded 'No GSM' error and unable to flash radio rom problem.
tried to flash every possible rom including original O2 one. All failed on radio ram flash.
Went through various threads and there seems to be no solution yet for universal (though there seems to be a solution for Hermes).
So all, please help me if there is some light in the end of this tunnel
regards
Topgun

i have tried all the possible things but no luck so far.....
please help

I just bought a used XDA with this same problem. Thought if i flash it it would work... any suggestions on what I can do? i havent touched it yet. Thanks

has ANYONE been able to solve this problem?!!!! Pls what did u do step by step.... I spent so much money on this %&%$& Phone!!! pulllleeeessssss

I haven't had this problem, however it sounds like you phone may be SIM locked? If so, you will need to flash it with the native ROM from it;'s origin. If it is SIM and CID locked, it will only take the OEM signed ROM.
Quote from POF (Moderator)
"Not in 100% of the cases... there are some situations where the radio bootloader is intact, but the radio is screwed, this causes all bootloader commands that require radio seclevel to be queried to hang the device (like 'task 32' or 'info 2'), thus not being able to flash it with the usual RUUs.
If this happens, it can easily be fixed with hermflasher by flashing the raw radio without prior authenticating to bootloader."
If this is of any help. It is from a thread on CID Unlocking RUU for Uni

Thanks.
i have been through that thread.
well the question on that is 'Is hermflasher okay to flash Universal as well'?

Where is this thread? i can try it.... but cant find the thread on cid unlocking ruu for universal in mermes section....
raskell said:
I haven't had this problem, however it sounds like you phone may be SIM locked? If so, you will need to flash it with the native ROM from it;'s origin. If it is SIM and CID locked, it will only take the OEM signed ROM.
Quote from POF (Moderator)
"Not in 100% of the cases... there are some situations where the radio bootloader is intact, but the radio is screwed, this causes all bootloader commands that require radio seclevel to be queried to hang the device (like 'task 32' or 'info 2'), thus not being able to flash it with the usual RUUs.
If this happens, it can easily be fixed with hermflasher by flashing the raw radio without prior authenticating to bootloader."
If this is of any help. It is from a thread on CID Unlocking RUU for Uni
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Here is the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301662&highlight=radio+error
Let me know if you have any luck with this.
cheers

topgunarindam said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301662&highlight=radio+error
Let me know if you have any luck with this.
cheers
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no, hermflasher wont work with universal (I dont think) ill consult with some others and report back here our consensus on what to try

I am facing the same 'No GSM' error in xda exec, plz can somebody tell me step by step how to solve it.

Thanks Midget
shall wait for your word.

Midget
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shall wait for your word.
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I'm waiting too.

Good News at Last
atleast it worked for me.
flashed using a different pc with radio 1.18 and it worked.
the radio is working fine with laurentius26's WM6 rom.
atleast my brick comes live again.

LUCKY YOU!!!!!!!!
topgunarindam said:
atleast it worked for me.
flashed using a different pc with radio 1.18 and it worked.
the radio is working fine with laurentius26's WM6 rom.
atleast my brick comes live again.
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lucky you, I tried that same WM6 ROM (with radio 1.18) and still same problem. I've tried falshing with 2 different desktops and a laptop. Still same problem! Topgun, did u have active sinc installed ? was the PC u used fresh? (no apps installed). do u think if i format my PC it could flash the radio? DID u flash radio only? or the whole laurentious v3 WM6 package (that is at the same time)?
Pls reply

Tbaba said:
lucky you, I tried that same WM6 ROM (with radio 1.18) and still same problem. I've tried falshing with 2 different desktops and a laptop. Still same problem! Topgun, did u have active sinc installed ? was the PC u used fresh? (no apps installed). do u think if i format my PC it could flash the radio? DID u flash radio only? or the whole laurentious v3 WM6 package (that is at the same time)?
Pls reply
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Him
well it was a laptop dell to be precise.
it was never used for window mobile usage previously and hence fresh Active sync 4.5 was installed.
only radio rom 1st (using the RUU check bypassing)......
once succesful, then laurentiius rom was tried.
one more thing i had entered bootloader manually after disabling AS 4.5
i used the original USB cable as well
hope this helps....
suggest get hold of some friends "win mobile virgin" pc/laptop.
P.S>- i am not sure but this prob might be somewhat related to COM ports available on your machine.

Error Flashing: Unlocked T-Mobile Dash with all possible XDA 6.1 Downloads

Error Flashing: Unlocked T-Mobile Dash with all possible XDA 6.1 Downloads
I run into this same ERROR irrespective of which download I use. Any thoughts?
Image Version: 1.22.531.6
Upgrade To Versions tried with Ricky / Kavana etc Brazil Portuguese etc:
1.33.424.2
1.33.424.2
RESULT:
The phone shows the Red Green Blue Band with little white at bottom screen. Then phone and PC show 3%. Then it goes to the following:
Error [270]: Update Error
The image file is corrupted. Please check your update utility.

Need a little more info
Read the Stickies but you need to application unlock your phone
Probably going to have to put in bootloader mode first reflash to your official Rom then App Unlock then follow 6.1 upgrade guide.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Excalibur_WM61
Sim unlock is different than application unlocking

never heard of the problem. EVER. whats error 270?

gixxum said:
never heard of the problem. EVER. whats error 270?
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Use the search

stylez said:
Use the search
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all i could find was 100000000 posts about error 270. so, what do i do?

gixxum said:
all i could find was 100000000 posts about error 270. so, what do i do?
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Whatever you do don't click the top one your dash will explode

I get the fundamentals of Simunlock v/s AppUnlock etc.
It was SimUnlocked using Unlock code I had got from T-Mobile.
1. It already has the latest Official ROM version on it (i.e. I tried doing it with the latest T-Mobile) and it shows the version I have is the same.
Do I need to reflash it with the ROM that is aleady present on my DASH? Is it worth trying that?
2. Now the step called AppUnlock? Which tool should I use given that I would have the T-Mobile Carrier 6.1 ROM on it (either already or reflash with T-Mobile 6.1 AGAIN)
3. After AppUnlock should I go for the FLASHing guide? Which one would that be?

if you search hard u can find it
sda unlock then put that file in your phone open it
then reboot
then just install it should be all center buttons if your using rickys rom
that's all

to add what are u talking about tmobile 6.1 there is none available from tmobile 6.1

crashnburnMDA said:
I get the fundamentals of Simunlock v/s AppUnlock etc.
It was SimUnlocked using Unlock code I had got from T-Mobile.
1. It already has the latest Official ROM version on it (i.e. I tried doing it with the latest T-Mobile) and it shows the version I have is the same.
Do I need to reflash it with the ROM that is aleady present on my DASH? Is it worth trying that?
2. Now the step called AppUnlock? Which tool should I use given that I would have the T-Mobile Carrier 6.1 ROM on it (either already or reflash with T-Mobile 6.1 AGAIN)
3. After AppUnlock should I go for the FLASHing guide? Which one would that be?
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a. follow EXACTLY what the guide says. download the files it tells you to (and provides links to). thats why i put PICTURES so you wont have to ask. get the app unlocker from the guide....no need to install anything on the phone..just plug it in via activesync and run the app unlock...it will look like the pictures...then reboot and continue the install
b. tmobile has no 6.1 rom.

gixxum said:
a. follow EXACTLY what the guide says. download the files it tells you to (and provides links to). thats why i put PICTURES so you wont have to ask. get the app unlocker from the guide....no need to install anything on the phone..just plug it in via activesync and run the app unlock...it will look like the pictures...then reboot and continue the install
b. tmobile has no 6.1 rom.
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Haha no I thought tmobile had the 7.1 rom... haha just messing...

help to upgrade..

hi,
im a 1 day user of htc universal,hehe!actually i just only bought it yesterday and i want to upgrade it to wm6.1 since its only wm5.i already red some forum about unlocking but im not quite sure if i really understand about unlocking thats why i want to ask help for the universal's expert,hehe!what should i first supposed to do before upgrading wm6.1 rom,is it similar to htc wizard regarding unlocking coz i had it before,please help me coz im excited to use this gadget,hehehe!

cyleandrei07 said:
hi,
im a 1 day user of htc universal,hehe!actually i just only bought it yesterday and i want to upgrade it to wm6.1 since its only wm5.i already red some forum about unlocking but im not quite sure if i really understand about unlocking thats why i want to ask help for the universal's expert,hehe!what should i first supposed to do before upgrading wm6.1 rom,is it similar to htc wizard regarding unlocking coz i had it before,please help me coz im excited to use this gadget,hehehe!
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Welcome to the forum
Please READ here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal
And remember to use SEARCH button before posting
Good luck,

orb3000 said:
Welcome to the forum
Please READ here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal
And remember to use SEARCH button before posting
Good luck,
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i red this link already my friend but im not sure that i really understand the procedure in upgrading thats why im asking for the help of anybody who knows universal because it also iunclude in the link the procedure in upgrading wizard its very confusing for me.
thanks to your reply!

I have to agree with Andrei here, the doc is not very enlightening,
from what I have read there are a few things missing.
For example I don't know if I have to "unlock" my phone. I bought it on ebay they said it was unlocked, the phone was not available in USA&Canada they imported it somehow from Europe (it's an MDA Pro). I beleive it is unlocked already but ...some users here say "completly unlock your phone" ...which means...there are some other partial "unlocks" ???
The Wiki procedure says you have to backup your files...It is har to beleive that there is no standard reliable software that can be included and mentioned in this procedure. This is an important step and if anything goes wrong you must be able to find your way back to at least what you had had before you did the upgrade.
As for "the search button" ...I have tried that and ...)) the same results tons of answers ...you need years to read and to process all that info.

Guys,
After Having Device only for few days to upgrade may not be advisable. Therefore I suggest you to take few days to get to know your device and read more info.
REgarding the "Locked Device" means you would only able to use the device with the SIM of the Orginal carrier. As you already using the device in other country and other service provider..I guess you device is UNLOCKED.
Anyhow I will try to short describe how to upgrade goes.
1) Make sure you get the orginal OS of your device first. anything goes wrong you can flash back to that OS.
2) make sure you backup your personal files from the device( files;PIM;etc.etc)
3) make sure you have bootloader higher then V1.0
4) make sure you have full charged Battery
5) Remember that in cooked WM6 the vidoe call doesnt function anymore!!!
6) Download a cooked ROM available here in the Universal forum. ( the New ROM of Tomal V8.5 is great one)
7) I.E Tomals ROM file has got everything you need to Flash your device
8) Anything else is clearly descriebed in the WIKI "READ IT carefully"
Good Luck.. dont blame if anything goes wrong

Bulldog said:
Anyhow I will try to short describe how to upgrade goes.
1) Make sure you get the orginal OS of your device first. anything goes wrong you can flash back to that OS.
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Couldn't find any decent procedure to backup my ROM. Could you please point me to one of them ?
I am running Windows Vista x64.
2) make sure you backup your personal files from the device( files;PIM;etc.etc)
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This is done. Used a "trial copy of a program recommended here.Not sure I will be able to restore because of the trial limitations...Suggestions ?
3) make sure you have bootloader higher then V1.0
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I have exactly 1.0. Can I upgrade this by just runing JASJAR_BL1.01_RUU_v1.2.exe ???I have an MDA Pro.
4) make sure you have full charged Battery
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N.P.
5) Remember that in cooked WM6 the vidoe call doesnt function anymore!!!
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Don't need it, it'sw OK for me
6) Download a cooked ROM available here in the Universal forum. ( the New ROM of Tomal V8.5 is great one)
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I believe I will try this one.
7) I.E Tomals ROM file has got everything you need to Flash your device
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i hope so
8) Anything else is clearly descriebed in the WIKI "READ IT carefully"
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Aparently if your PDA is seen by UNI_ExitBootloader.exe that means the reboot command is executed then you should be OK. But....I tried that and I had to try it twice, the first time didn't work.
So...apparently I will have to try to bootloder upgrade and after that burn the new ROM.
I still need a way to save the old one.
BTW, in what circumstances can yu damage your phone up to the point where you can not reflash it or use it anymore ?
nad one more question, will the phone work (calling and receiving calls) if the software is gone ? I believe it will not but...what do I know ? )

I'm also not totally clear on the instruction. Though they seem to be complete the style their written in leaves some questions.
If I have a G4 then is the file "HTC_Uni_SIM_Unlock_v1.rar" at ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Universal/Tools_and_Programs/ is what is needed to unlock CID/EROM locks in preparation for ROM flashing?
Or is SIM unlocking totally different from the unlocking were talking about?
Thank you vary much!

1000QA said:
Couldn't find any decent procedure to backup my ROM. Could you please point me to one of them ?
I am running Windows Vista x64.
This is done. Used a "trial copy of a program recommended here.Not sure I will be able to restore because of the trial limitations...Suggestions ?
I have exactly 1.0. Can I upgrade this by just runing JASJAR_BL1.01_RUU_v1.2.exe ???I have an MDA Pro.
N.P.
Don't need it, it'sw OK for me
I believe I will try this one.
i hope so
Aparently if your PDA is seen by UNI_ExitBootloader.exe that means the reboot command is executed then you should be OK. But....I tried that and I had to try it twice, the first time didn't work.
So...apparently I will have to try to bootloder upgrade and after that burn the new ROM.
I still need a way to save the old one.
BTW, in what circumstances can yu damage your phone up to the point where you can not reflash it or use it anymore ?
nad one more question, will the phone work (calling and receiving calls) if the software is gone ? I believe it will not but...what do I know ? )
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1)I have no Vista therefore I cnt give you much info and that but I have read alot of issues with it. Therefore I suggest you to read more on how to upgrade in Vista.
2) I personally dont use any Backup Software. I syc. My Device with my desktop and M$ Outlook. Any Info that I have with contacts,Appointments,Task even My Documents folder and files. Those will be available on my Desktop and after upgrade you can Sync. them to you Device with new ROM
3) If you have BL 1.0 which means you should have G3 device then I believe you can use the JASJAR_BL1.01_RUU_v1.2.exe ???I have an MDA Pro.
4) UPGRADE in XP....YOU NEED TO CHECK HOW IS IT IN VISTA
4.1) Download Tomals ROM which comes in package like:TML_v85_WM61_20764_ST.exe (that is the standard OS).
4.2) Put your device in boot loader mode with button Comb. >power B + Back light B + Push the reset B <with stylus until you see on the screen the Boot loader Screen. Connect Device to your Computer.
4.3) Start the TML_v85_WM61_20764_ST.exe with double click and the installation will start.
4.4) follow the screen instruction.
4.5) After completing the upgrade Disconnect the Device from the Computer.
4.6) Push button comb. >push left soft key B + push right soft B + Push with stylus the reset B< untill you see message on the screen ....Push "0 (nill)" to set device to factory setting or something..
Well then you should be fine and completed your upgrade. AGAIN CHECK THE UPGRADE WITH VISTA.. I have no experience with Vista.

Bulldog said:
1)I have no Vista therefore I cnt give you much info and that but I have read alot of issues with it. Therefore I suggest you to read more on how to upgrade in Vista.
2) I personally dont use any Backup Software. I syc. My Device with my desktop and M$ Outlook. Any Info that I have with contacts,Appointments,Task even My Documents folder and files. Those will be available on my Desktop and after upgrade you can Sync. them to you Device with new ROM
3) If you have BL 1.0 which means you should have G3 device then I believe you can use the JASJAR_BL1.01_RUU_v1.2.exe ???I have an MDA Pro.
4) UPGRADE in XP....YOU NEED TO CHECK HOW IS IT IN VISTA
4.1) Download Tomals ROM which comes in package like:TML_v85_WM61_20764_ST.exe (that is the standard OS).
4.2) Put your device in boot loader mode with button Comb. >power B + Back light B + Push the reset B <with stylus until you see on the screen the Boot loader Screen. Connect Device to your Computer.
4.3) Start the TML_v85_WM61_20764_ST.exe with double click and the installation will start.
4.4) follow the screen instruction.
4.5) After completing the upgrade Disconnect the Device from the Computer.
4.6) Push button comb. >push left soft key B + push right soft B + Push with stylus the reset B< untill you see message on the screen ....Push "0 (nill)" to set device to factory setting or something..
Well then you should be fine and completed your upgrade. AGAIN CHECK THE UPGRADE WITH VISTA.. I have no experience with Vista.
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That is exactly what I did.
I am happy now excepting that I don't know if I need to instal RealVGA or that is included. I belive it is not.
I will try tomorrow.
Thanks

1000QA said:
That is exactly what I did.
I am happy now excepting that I don't know if I need to instal RealVGA or that is included. I belive it is not.
I will try tomorrow.
Thanks
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The realVGA is not included in the Tomals ROM. you need to download it separately.(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327830)
I am not that young anymore and therefore I found my self having issues with the RealVGA. 128DPI is nice but you need good eyes. 96DPI is not usable I would say

Help please...screen stuck at logo

Hello
My phone's screen is stuck at opening htc logo. I never rooted it - shall I just flash it with standard stock rom? Would you please be so kind to point me in the right direction? Bless...
My kindest regards
Pete

Try booting without the sd card.
How old is the phone? What happened / did you do (if such is the case) for it to get like that? Etc.....
Sent from a dream.

Teichopsia said:
Try booting without the sd card.
How old is the phone? What happened / did you do (if such is the case) for it to get like that? Etc.....
Sent from a dream.
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Tried that before without result...also did a factory reset but to no avail. Phone was just over a year old when it happened, got it from my insurance policy so it's possibly a refurbished one. I can't remember doing anything to cause this...

phosphen said:
Tried that before without result...also did a factory reset but to no avail. Phone was just over a year old when it happened, got it from my insurance policy so it's possibly a refurbished one. I can't remember doing anything to cause this...
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You Need to provide the Cid number and the Main Version. Do You know how to Get that?

glevitan said:
You Need to provide the Cid number and the Main Version. Do You know how to Get that?
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Sorry, no idea...

phosphen said:
Sorry, no idea...
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Ok, enable USB debugging, plug the phone to the PC and then open a CMD ON the PC and type adb reboot-bootloader and once in bootloader type fastboot getvar all. You Need to post the INFOcidnum and INFOmain

How old is your phone? Isn't there still any warranty? If so you may try to contact your reseller, service provider or the manufacturer. If not glevitan may be your hero

glevitan said:
Ok, enable USB debugging, plug the phone to the PC and then open a CMD ON the PC and type adb reboot-bootloader and once in bootloader type fastboot getvar all. You Need to post the INFOcidnum and INFOmain
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Sorry mate, I was offline for a whole day, just managed to get back on it
How can I enable USB debugging if I can get onto HBOOT menu only? Is it possible to switch it on from there? Saludos

phosphen said:
Sorry mate, I was offline for a whole day, just managed to get back on it
How can I enable USB debugging if I can get onto HBOOT menu only? Is it possible to switch it on from there? Saludos
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Yes, from fastboot, plug the phone (You will see fastboot USB in red) type: fastboot getvar all

sounds like a boot loop?
try removing the battery, once you have done that re boot into boot loader from there you should see an option for recovery.you may want to do a full wipe and re flash the rom.:silly: keep in mind the initial flash normally will take the longest,best to leave it be for a few minutes while the phone adjust to the new settings,that sometimes will seem like you may have an issue, but patience most times is all that is needed.hope this helps.

rdub504 said:
try removing the battery, once you have done that re boot into boot loader from there you should see an option for recovery.you may want to do a full wipe and re flash the rom.:silly: keep in mind the initial flash normally will take the longest,best to leave it be for a few minutes while the phone adjust to the new settings,that sometimes will seem like you may have an issue, but patience most times is all that is needed.hope this helps.
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It's not rooted, so I don't think that will work.

bananagranola said:
It's not rooted, so I don't think that will work.
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excellent point,but if that's true what is he flashing?
rooted phone=flash capable non rooted =stock rom with no admin access. am i mistaken,if so slap me and call me susan,if not box that thing up and bring it back,and if that's not an option then warranty time.because that device is chap.

rdub504 said:
excellent point,but if that's true what is he flashing?
rooted phone=flash capable non rooted =stock rom with no admin access. am i mistaken,if so slap me and call me susan,if not box that thing up and bring it back,and if that's not an option then warranty time.because that device is chap.
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Hello susan
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Teichopsia said:
Hello susan
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LOL,I guess i'm susan and my face now hurt.can you please elaborate a bit so i can also understand what i am missing.

rdub504 said:
LOL,I guess i'm susan and my face now hurt.can you please elaborate a bit so i can also understand what i am missing.
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Well....
1- over a year old bought refurbished.
2- he never rooted. We could assume that it is s-off from the previous owner but all of us failed to ask that question making another assumption that he isn't s-off.
3- he did a factory reset which didn't work (whatever that means with an s-on device / with an s-off device it really messes things up).
4- glevitan is here. If he doesn't know how to fix it (and from the few active members that tend to lend a hand in these type of posts) there may be just a handful who could help out. Hence, the OP is in good hands.
5- when someone messes up their phone without knowing what happened nor how to fix it, you need to give more detailed instructions on how to get it done.
6- I'm guessing that the info glevitan asked for is to find the correct ruu for the member to flash and to get his phone back to working conditions. If that doesn't work, chances are it's a hardware problem.
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Teichopsia said:
Well....
1- over a year old bought refurbished.
2- he never rooted. We could assume that it is s-off from the previous owner but all of us failed to ask that question making another assumption that he isn't s-off.
3- he did a factory reset which didn't work (whatever that means with an s-on device / with an s-off device it really messes things up).
4- glevitan is here. If he doesn't know how to fix it (and from the few active members that tend to lend a hand in these type of posts) there may be just a handful who could help out. Hence, the OP is in good hands.
5- when someone messes up their phone without knowing what happened nor how to fix it, you need to give more detailed instructions on how to get it done.
6- I'm guessing that the info glevitan asked for is to find the correct ruu for the member to flash and to get his phone back to working conditions. If that doesn't work, chances are it's a hardware problem.
Bullet point,impressive. now a refurb with s off would mean a root from a previous owner?
"S-ON, which means it blocks you from flashing radio images — the code that manages your data, Wi-Fi and GPS connections. Switching your phone to S-OFF lets you flash new radios. Rooting doesn’t require S-OFF, but many rooting tools will give you S-OFF in addition to root access" So hince my question if attempting to flash a rom ,it would be a safe bet he would be rooted,because without it he would have no admin access,recovery or superser access and would not be able to complete the flash process.a factory reset would normally on a stock rom not result in a loss of the entire stock rom but only a loss off data i.e contacts apps etc. and with these things in mind it would seem to be a safe to assume its a hardware issue or a rooted refurb phone from a previous owner in a bootloop becauce a factory reset there would wipe everything?
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Factory reset resets the phone to it's "as fabricated"-condition, wich means it wipes user data and cache on the phone. With or without root the procedure is the same and should usally not affect /system or /boot.
So we have to find out, if the phone is S-On/S-Off (phosphen, more information on the topic can be read for example here, second post).

Teichopsia said:
Well....
1- over a year old bought refurbished.
2- he never rooted. We could assume that it is s-off from the previous owner but all of us failed to ask that question making another assumption that he isn't s-off.
3- he did a factory reset which didn't work (whatever that means with an s-on device / with an s-off device it really messes things up).
4- glevitan is here. If he doesn't know how to fix it (and from the few active members that tend to lend a hand in these type of posts) there may be just a handful who could help out. Hence, the OP is in good hands.
5- when someone messes up their phone without knowing what happened nor how to fix it, you need to give more detailed instructions on how to get it done.
6- I'm guessing that the info glevitan asked for is to find the correct ruu for the member to flash and to get his phone back to working conditions. If that doesn't work, chances are it's a hardware problem.
Sent from a dream.
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rdub504 said:
Teichopsia said:
Well....
1- over a year old bought refurbished.
2- he never rooted. We could assume that it is s-off from the previous owner but all of us failed to ask that question making another assumption that he isn't s-off.
3- he did a factory reset which didn't work (whatever that means with an s-on device / with an s-off device it really messes things up).
4- glevitan is here. If he doesn't know how to fix it (and from the few active members that tend to lend a hand in these type of posts) there may be just a handful who could help out. Hence, the OP is in good hands.
5- when someone messes up their phone without knowing what happened nor how to fix it, you need to give more detailed instructions on how to get it done.
6- I'm guessing that the info glevitan asked for is to find the correct ruu for the member to flash and to get his phone back to working conditions. If that doesn't work, chances are it's a hardware problem.
Bullet point,impressive. now a refurb with s off would mean a root from a previous owner?
"S-ON, which means it blocks you from flashing radio images — the code that manages your data, Wi-Fi and GPS connections. Switching your phone to S-OFF lets you flash new radios. Rooting doesn’t require S-OFF, but many rooting tools will give you S-OFF in addition to root access" So hince my question if attempting to flash a rom ,it would be a safe bet he would be rooted,because without it he would have no admin access,recovery or superser access and would not be able to complete the flash process.a factory reset would normally on a stock rom not result in a loss of the entire stock rom but only a loss off data i.e contacts apps etc. and with these things in mind it would seem to be a safe to assume its a hardware issue or a rooted refurb phone from a previous owner in a bootloop becauce a factory reset there would wipe everything?
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Cfhappy said:
Factory reset resets the phone to it's "as fabricated"-condition, wich means it wipes user data and cache on the phone. With or without root the procedure is the same and should usally not affect /system or /boot.
So we have to find out, if the phone is S-On/S-Off (phosphen, more information on the topic can be read for example here, second post).
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Sorry guys, but before hijacking this thread maybe you can go and follow the discussion in the off topic thread. The idea here is to lend a hand to someone that is stuck and a noob and this for certain not helping him. Let's keep it clean....
BTW, the only solution in his case is to flash the OEM RUU or make a goldcard and flash an unbranded rom. With no s-off there´s no other way.
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I couldn't resist.
Maybe it's good practice for him to read through all to learn to discern right info from wrong.
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Teichopsia said:
I couldn't resist.
Maybe it's good practice for him to read through all to learn to discern right info from wrong.
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Yeah, that is right, but with the phone stuck in the splash I don´t think is a good time to think about learning. This experience will definitely be worth for him in the future. :victory: