Does Smart Keyboard use extra battery / cpu? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm trying to figure this out, In my SystemPanel, it shows:
Total CPU time 17s
Time since start: 1 hr 9 min 52s
Avg Consumption 0.4%
I don't have a long sample of it yet, but I'm trying to figure out which situation is true:
#1. Smart Keyboard is using cpu,but so does the stock keyboard - the difference is the stock keyboard's usage is not reported in SystemPanel since the keyboard is part of the operating system
#2 Smart Keyboard is using extra cpu, whereas the stock keyboard would not. It's the price you pay for extra functionality
Can someone tell me which is true?
Thanks

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Hmmm. I just started using smart keyboard and haven't noticed anything yet. Gonna turn on system panel monitoring again and start checking on that. I guess it doesn't really make sense for it to use more. It's not that much smarter than the stock HTC.
If it is using that much CPU time then I will be uninstalling it till they fix it, It was like $1.99 i think too.

LearnIIBurn said:
Hmmm. I just started using smart keyboard and haven't noticed anything yet. Gonna turn on system panel monitoring again and start checking on that. I guess it doesn't really make sense for it to use more. It's not that much smarter than the stock HTC.
If it is using that much CPU time then I will be uninstalling it till they fix it, It was like $1.99 i think too.
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really hard to tell because I'm guessing the stock keyboard uses battery / cpu as well, i mean it has to.
I'm guessing it's comparable to the stock, really can't see how it could be much different, they're so similiar besides gestures

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How to Speed up your Hero - My Way

Well i already tried speeding up my HERO by following the steps from another thread here in the forum and it just didn't work for me.
So Heres what i Tried and it just seems to work out for me! And its very simple too.​
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT: DOWNLOAD "OVERCLOCKWIDGET" FROM THE MARKET AND SET THE MIN MHZ TO (128000) AND MAX TO (528000) MHZ. THIS SHOULD HELP KEEP THINGS RUNNING SMOOTH.
^^^^Also from the settings of "OverClock Widget" you can set the MHZ Frequencies while the screen if off to the a low but not so low Frequencies in order to save battery!
So if your like me and like to have a lot of widgets on your phone then Using Task manager to kill certain apps might just do the trick....
First of all never end applications such as
com.htc.socialnetwork.provider
com.htc.provder.weather
HTC media uploader
Touch input
HTC Location Service​
and more! They do not have an icon if your using "advance task Manager" All other apps are good to end such as music,peep,market, Messages,Mail, Google Mail, and of course Browser which uses a lot of memory.
Give it a try and let me know how it goes...​
Heres the link to a video i made to show the performance of my HTC Hero!
Not the best quality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3BrCmWXwhQ
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Thats the way i do it to.
But i also noticed, that some widgets uses more battery than others. After i removed quick calender and digital clock, i got better battery performance. That might also have some effects on the processing power
I tried this...
This afternoon and so far this morning the Hero is far more responsive after I wake it up (which was when it was at its most laggy).
I can now immediately slide around the home screens. Before I had to wait a few seconds or suffer ignored screen swipes.
I was not using the Stocks app or widget but it was set to auto update so set it to never update.
Maybe its a process that runs regardless of whether you use the app or widget ??
Know what I think might work? An app that reboots the phone.
User selects frequency of reboot (daily? every 2 days? every week?)
User selects time of reboot (12 midnight? 3 am?)
User defines Countdown period (15 seconds? 30 seconds? 1 minute?)
At the user-defined time, the app will run itself, and prompt the user "Reboot Now?". A countdown timer will start.
User can select 'Later', 'In 10 minutes', or if there is no interaction/input, when countdown reaches 0, the app will reboot the phone automatically.
This way, users will always wake up to a 'fresh' phone. What do you guys think?
Rebooting the device won't make it faster. On the contrary you have to start every apps for the first time so it takes more time.
You'd better leave it on and turn to airplane mode when you don't need it.
piflechien said:
Rebooting the device won't make it faster. On the contrary you have to start every apps for the first time so it takes more time.
You'd better leave it on and turn to airplane mode when you don't need it.
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Tell that to my phone. It's back to it's zippy self after a reboot, and only slows down after I run Maps, Browser, Google Talk, Market and HTC Mail
joemax said:
I tried this...
This afternoon and so far this morning the Hero is far more responsive after I wake it up (which was when it was at its most laggy).
I can now immediately slide around the home screens. Before I had to wait a few seconds or suffer ignored screen swipes.
I was not using the Stocks app or widget but it was set to auto update so set it to never update.
Maybe its a process that runs regardless of whether you use the app or widget ??
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Well im glad to know it works not only for me but for other people Too!
minogue said:
Well i already tried speeding up my HERO by following the steps from another thread here in the forum and it just didn't work for me.
So Heres what i Tried and it just seems to work out for me! And its very simple too.
So if your like me and like to have a lot of widgets on your phone then Using Task manager to kill certain apps might just do the trick....
First of all never end applications such as
com.htc.socialnetworl.provider
com.htc.provder.weather
HTC media uploader
Touch input and more! They do not have an icon if your using "advance task Manager" All other apps are good to end such as music,peep, market and of course Browser which uses a lot of ram.....
Give it a try and let me know how it goes...
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Could you be more detailed about what process must be excluded from closing?
com.htc.socialnetworl.provider
com.htc.provder.weather
HTC media uploader
Touch input
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THX!
@Asci
Thread updated with latest Info!
I think clock should also be spared of killing, as if I recall correctly, something bad could happen to set alarms (not setting off, volume too low etc.)!
Hi guys, need some help.
i've just rooted my Hero thanks to this article http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543571 and Quick Boot (which needs root) now works perfectly.
After i've installed overclockwidget i cannot start it as it gives me an error "Star-up error - cannot start Overclockwidget (need Root)".
Any ideas?
thanks in advance.
Surely increasing the CPU speed will also increase battery drain ?
Its also likely to lead to instability and additional heat (Hero gets hot enough when working hard).
Personally I would be wary of doing this.
I have no real issues with battery drainage after tweaking the processor speed; lasts about the same as it would w/out the tweaks.
I do see some minor performance improvements, but on the flip-side, the phone can also get sluggish at times upon waking it up from sleep.
I'm confused, my hero runs at 528 stock o_o
seshmaru said:
I'm confused, my hero runs at 528 stock o_o
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wrong.. the proccesor was underclocked just like with the HTC Magic and the T-mobile G1
minogue said:
wrong.. the proccesor was underclocked just like with the HTC Magic and the T-mobile G1
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wrong, mine runs at 528 MHz, and I haven't overclocked it
I can confirm that mine shows 526 (the widget number) as well out of the box. And changing the settings doesn't appear to do anything. It's always returning to 480Mhz - 528Mhz when I restart the app / widget. I've tried this both with SetCPU and OverClock Widget.
The Hero (at least some Heroes) seems to be immune to fiddling with the cpu. And I am sure I'm rooted, because I enabled paid apps in Android Market with MarketEnabler and that's working.
MarketEnabler didn't work out of the box tho - because it had a script that relied on Grep and Grep isn't installed, so I had to empty the AndroidMarket cache by hand from the terminal... Maybe there's something similar preventing fiddling with the cpu speeds?

mssmison did it!: CyanogenMod 5.07 test 3. for kaiser!

wifi working with patch.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=325161&d=1273647492
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679680
could someone resize it to 240x320 please? cant wait to try this
Heads up! New Kaiser Wifi update: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6456191&postcount=33
Old one replaced build.prop with wrong version. Reinstall and use the new Wifi update.
Also to get rid of android-rebooting-problems with GPS Test application do the following:
1. Start terminal emulator
2. su
3. cd system/lib/hw
4. rwsystem
5. rm sensors.msm7k.so
6. rosystem
7. exit
8. exit
9. restart phone
So how is it? I'm too lazy to install it.
Dukenukemx said:
So how is it? I'm too lazy to install it.
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Seems like a really nice build. I'm using 320x428 with 144 dpi. A bit slow because I'm currently not running in NAND but I would expect it to perform quite well once I go back to running NAND again.
I haven't tested it very much yet as I'm doing some experiments in WinMO at the moment.
just tried
hey
i just downloaded this and i have to say im impressed about this.
as i love the eclair design and everything and the donut speed i have to say this is impressing because it is FAST! not as fast as donut but pretty much the same. that could be due to the 500 mHz OC but i just like that build.
just needs to be optimized a bit, maybe a few apps like astro and others
and as the developer has a new phone we need a new one.
But i have to say its awesome!
i love it already and just tried it for 9 min.
just the OC needs to be removed i noticed right now and is there any way to set another value for the screen sensebility because quiet often it does not react on a touch.
so keep updating this!
nick
nice rom but it chews through battery like crazy. With a full charge battery will drop from 99 to 75(battery fix removed OC and set 1400 value) with just a 10min phone call and a couple txts. I think what we need is a new kernel highly optimized for battery life using the latest patches. Judging from the name alone of the kernel its running right now 2.6.25-01051-gc362ac-dirty and the fact that 2.6.25 was released in jul 2008 i think theres room for tons for improvement.
Does anyone know how to adjust the microphone gain? my friends complain they cant hear me..
The wifi scan interval is set to 15 seconds by default in this release. That will have a negative effect on battery life if you are out of range of a known network and have wifi enabled. I'll put together an update to change this when time allows. I use 120 seconds myself.
kallt_kaffe said:
The wifi scan interval is set to 15 seconds by default in this release. That will have a negative effect on battery life if you are out of range of a known network and have wifi enabled. I'll put together an update to change this when time allows. I use 120 seconds myself.
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Thanks to update.
It working good on Polaris.
Also i change interval to 180 and density to 120 in .prop
Here's an update that changes the wifi scan delay to 120 seconds and also (not tested yet) changes the model name from Vogue to Kaiser.
i'm still trying to figure out if it's possible, somehow, to flash an update.zip file (to be able to use the cyanogenmod skins) with the nomorootfs we're using, instead of converting the skins to metamorph format
does anyone know if it's possible or how to do it?
Can't get wifi to work with updates, which one should I need?
kallt_kaffe's works for me. If something isn't working like it should, power off the phone and remove the battery. Then hold down the power button to remove any remaining power left. Place batter back in and try again.
Also, make sure to always fix permissions when you apply updates, even for wifi.
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kallt_kaffe's works for me. If something isn't working like it should, power off the phone and remove the battery. Then hold down the power button to remove any remaining power left. Place batter back in and try again.
Also, make sure to always fix permissions when you apply updates, even for wifi.
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edit: how stupid can I be? I've bought another phone and forgot to add the mac adress.
Certainly think mod needs work. So far the battery meter is off, and all this time I thought it drained less power. A lot of pop ups to force close apps. A lot of apps are running that I don't use.
mssmison didn't say he was going to put any more effort into it either. Hopefully, someone will pick it up.
Dukenukemx said:
Certainly think mod needs work. So far the battery meter is off, and all this time I thought it drained less power.
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Try deleting /data/system/batterystats.bin. That usually helps when the batterymeter has gone bad.
A lot of pop ups to force close apps. A lot of apps are running that I don't use.
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Have you removed or renamed /lib/modules/hw/sensors.msm7k.so? After I removed that it runs very stable for me.
kallt_kaffe how do you do it?
I'm new to the androidinstall.tar method. I'm tyring to run from haret but it seems impossible.
You said you where experimenting with something in winmo, so that implies you're using haret? Are you running from haret?
When I try, Polymod, and Mssmission they don't show an install option, when I try myn and incubus I get it installed but I get no sound. It was actually your gps kernel that let me get things installed all other kernels i tried had non-functional dpads within the installer environment. Also, trying another kernel once installed didn't fix the sound issue.
Anyhow just let me know if you're using Haret. I wonder whats up with the sound and missing install option. I tried the install two different ways one with a 2gb fat32 partition, and then another attempt using three primary partitions 1.3gb fat32, 300mb ext, 300mb ext. All installers then would give me options beside's fat, but not all intallers would have an install option.. I'm using radio 1.71.09.01.eMo, model: kais100, os: wm6.5 (shifu v.3)
kallt_kaffe said:
Have you removed or renamed /lib/modules/hw/sensors.msm7k.so? After I removed that it runs very stable for me.
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I try start Skyforce game, but it forceclose.
It can work after i added "sensors.sapphire.so" into /lib/modules/hw/
I've installed the cyanogenMod updater from the marketplace, but it can only find older versions, no experimental versions, whatever option I set in the program.Anyone?
Dukenukemx said:
Certainly think mod needs work. So far the battery meter is off, and all this time I thought it drained less power. A lot of pop ups to force close apps. A lot of apps are running that I don't use.
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battery life has been fantastic for me on this build...
although I reverted back to 400mhz and got rid of compcache.
I am sure that OCing to 500 by default is draining the battery faster.
I would rather a usable phone than a fast one...(although it still seems very fast to me)

[SHARE] Battery Saving Techniques!

NOTE: Im turning this into a sharing thread where everybody can post and share their techniques on how they save battery consumption. I'll quote all the useful suggestions here in the first post
I would like to start off by saying that all ROMs basically consume badly just like the stock version. There could be little to no differences between them with regards to battery performance. Right now I would like to share my observation, on what I presume to be one of the best ways to save battery while maintaining good performance.
glennlevi's Technique:
1. Get Antutu Battery Saver Pro (Free version can be found in the market). Install and untick the option control cpu speed.
2. Using No Frills CPU, or any other built-in cpu settings app, select your default governor (bcm####) and sio as your I/O scheduler. Maximum Frequency should be your highest available, and Minimum Frequency your lowest available.
3. Manually adjust screen brightness in settings to about 20%.
4. Untick Background Data and Auto Sync in settings, under Accounts and Sync Settings.
5. Get Ram Booster (Free in market) and install. Open. Under settings, set Boost Level to aggresive, set whitelist apps and tick your launcher, sms app, keyboard, and Ram Booster and Antutu Battery Saver. Untick Show Overlay Widget in Overlay Widget Settings. Enable the widget in the notification bar, refresh every 5s, Report Style Dont Show. Under Advanced Settings, set Feedback to None. Clean Ram using this app everytime just before you turn off your screen or want to stop using your phone.
6. Drag down your notification bar and tap the Ram Booster Notification. Now wait a couple of mins while browsing through your phone (without opening any apps)
*You can use other task killers if you want, but Ram Booster is the best IMO. A better replacement however is 360 launcher's cleaner widget (which will save more memory, ram and battery usage since its all in one app)
7. Open settings and go to Applications>Running Processes and look at all running apps, you will see some auto-start apps like Beats Audio, DSP Manager, Google Mail, Google Maps, Google Playstore and others. Uninstall all user apps that have autostarted. Download Titanium Backup and use it to uninstall stock bloatware, like google maps and google mail, or other custom bloatware like Beats Audio (If you dont use them at all). Clean Dalvik Cache using Titanium Backup and Clean Cache using Ram Booster. Freeze seldom used apps like Google Playstore. Just unfreeze when you want to use them.
*You can use other apps like Root Uninstaller to remove system apps, but IMO Titanium Backup is the easiest to use and has one of the most functions.
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Imacatlover's tips:
Imacatlover said:
The best way to save battery is really to know your fone.
1. any type of widget should be avoided( except maybe clock) as they are juice hoggers.
2. ANY app that suggest or implies that they save battery defeats their own purpose for they themselves consume battery life...figures.
3. ANY app that has "killer" attached to it isn't really helpful because most of the app be it user or system just restarts after. Same goes for anything with "booster"..
4. Ram cleaner should suffice
5. keep most settings to a minimum.
6. Accept the fact that our little fone has one crappy battery construction..
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irfanbagus' tips
irfanbagus said:
i do. well, not full kernel, just kernel module. search bacem-tweak in dev section. but i find that the best thing you can do to save battery is keep your phone sleep as long as possible. that's means remove bloatware, limit installed app with service, and only turn data/wifi when needed. combine with undervoltage, usually i got 3-4 days in single charge. in some very rare condition i got 6-7 days.
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There you go! Have a blazing fast and battery healthy SGY!
i'll try that as soon as i can
OxygeenHD said:
i'll try that as soon as i can
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Just to be clear, using Titanium Backup and changing CPU settings requires a rooted phone
Well, most custom roms are rooted anyways. Im just saying this cuz you might be running on stock rom
Nice tutorial :good: :good: :good:
Good one thanks mate xD
I'd like to confirm a few things. some of info on this thread is never heard.
glennlevi said:
2. Using No Frills CPU, or any other built-in cpu settings app, select your default governor (bcm####) and sio as your I/O scheduler. Maximum Frequency should be your highest available, and Minimum Frequency your lowest available.
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bcm work almost like performance gov. are sure about it?
5. Get Ram Booster (Free in market) and install. Open. Under settings, set Boost Level to aggresive, set whitelist apps and tick your launcher, sms app, keyboard, and Ram Booster and Antutu Battery Saver. Untick Show Overlay Widget in Overlay Widget Settings. Enable the widget in the notification bar, refresh every 5s, Report Style Dont Show. Under Advanced Settings, set Feedback to None. Clean Ram using this app everytime just before you turn off your screen or want to stop using your phone.
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is this information have been confirmed? as far as I know fewer widget is low ram consuming and more battery friendly. notification will prevent your device sleep. notification for every 5 second?it will make your battery life decreased, a lot. on other hand, clean ram have been proved consume huge battery power.
6. Drag down your notification bar and tap the Ram Booster Notification. Now wait a couple of mins while browsing through your phone (without opening any apps)
*You can use other task killers if you want, but Ram Booster is the best IMO. A better replacement however is 360 launcher's cleaner widget (which will save more memory, ram and battery usage since its all in one app)
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why should I use it when android have it's own task killer.?
7. Open settings and go to Applications>Running Processes and look at all running apps, you will see some auto-start apps like Beats Audio, DSP Manager, Google Mail, Google Maps, Google Playstore and others. Uninstall all user apps that have autostarted. Download Titanium Backup and use it to uninstall stock bloatware, like google maps and google mail, or other custom bloatware like Beats Audio (If you dont use them at all). Clean Dalvik Cache using Titanium Backup and Clean Cache using Ram Booster. Freeze seldom used apps like Google Playstore. Just unfreeze when you want to use them.
*You can use other apps like Root Uninstaller to remove system apps, but IMO Titanium Backup is the easiest to use and has one of the most functions.
There you go! Have a blazing fast and battery healthy SGY!
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most android app work with autostart. in fact, all you can see in android is actually an app. debloatware is a good recommendation, but a complete app removing? please make sure about the validity of these information.
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kurotsugi said:
I'd like to confirm a few things. some of info on this thread is never heard. bcm work almost like performance gov. are sure about it?
is this information have been confirmed? as far as I know fewer widget is low ram consuming and more battery friendly. notification will prevent your device sleep. notification for every 5 second?it will make your battery life decreased, a lot. on other hand, clean ram have been proved consume huge battery power.
why should I use it when android have it's own task killer.?
most android app work with autostart. in fact, all you can see in android is actually an app. debloatware is a good recommendation, but a complete app removing? please make sure about the validity of these information.
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First off I would like to quote myself -
"Right now I would like to share my observation, on what I presume to be one of the best ways to save battery while maintaining good performance."
As such, Im sharing this because
1. I think it might help other people.
2. I've tried it and compared it many times in many different rom, and what I recommend is based from my own experience
3. I know youre a dev. Im not, obviously. That doesnt mean I cant share what I think is useful. This is also backed up by the fact that Im not claiming Im sure that these actually work and that I can back it up with additional information. Again, this is just based on my experience.
again I would like to repeat the quotation from myself:
"Right now I would like to share my observation, on what I presume to be one of the best ways to save battery while maintaining good performance."
There you go. I hope that clears it all up. So please dont pick on me or anything just because Im not a dev. Thank you.
nope...I never intended to pick on you. I'm just feeding up my curiosity. I'm sorry if you feel like that.
thanks for sharing we need tat support...other be frank..be opened for sharing..
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kurotsugi said:
nope...I never intended to pick on you. I'm just feeding up my curiosity. I'm sorry if you feel like that.
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Well, thanks anyways for noticing my thread. Now I know some of my suggestions may be far from the theoretical facts that you know, but there are times when actually testing something and comparing it with others yield better results than just looking up the figures. Thats just my take on it though, so Im not saying thats all there is to it.
Anyway, maybe I'll edit this thread and make it a SHARING THREAD instead. I'll just regularly view it and put all suggestions that other members have in the first post
glennlevi said:
Well, thanks anyways for noticing my thread. Now I know some of my suggestions may be far from the theoretical facts that you know, but there are times when actually testing something and comparing it with others yield better results than just looking up the figures. Thats just my take on it though, so Im not saying thats all there is to it.
Anyway, maybe I'll edit this thread and make it a SHARING THREAD instead. I'll just regularly view it and put all suggestions that other members have in the first post
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The best way to save battery is really to know your fone.
1. any type of widget should be avoided( except maybe clock) as they are juice hoggers.
2. ANY app that suggest or implies that they save battery defeats their own purpose for they themselves consume battery life...figures.
3. ANY app that has "killer" attached to it isn't really helpful because most of the app be it user or system just restarts after. Same goes for anything with "booster"..
4. Ram cleaner should suffice
5. keep most settings to a minimum.
6. Accept the fact that our little fone has one crappy battery construction..
good tutorial
I will try it
Thanks
Imacatlover said:
3. ANY app that has "killer" attached to it isn't really helpful because most of the app be it user or system just restarts after. Same goes for anything with "booster"..
4. Ram cleaner should suffice
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do you ever wonder how ram cleaner works ? by killing some applications. ram cleaner = task killer.
6. Accept the fact that our little fone has one crappy battery construction..
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not that crap if you realize it's 2011 android phone with $120 price. right now with that money you can find a lot better phone, but in late of 2011 there is only few choice on that price range.
Please share your battery saving techniques and tips here! I will add the good ones on the first post with quotation.
Probably when there are already a lot, I will compile all tips to make one big guide which has been contributed by the whole community. Lets work together on this
irfanbagus said:
do you ever wonder how ram cleaner works ? by killing some applications. ram cleaner = task killer.
not that crap if you realize it's 2011 android phone with $120 price. right now with that money you can find a lot better phone, but in late of 2011 there is only few choice on that price range.
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hmm... seems legit
Cant argue with you on that, most apps are generally glorified task managers, there are a few good ones though.
That's why i'm planning to buy a new android this christmas, maybe S1 or S2 depending on my budget.
wonder why no one want to make a battery saver kernel than superspeed kernel...
Imacatlover said:
That's why i'm planning to buy a new android this christmas, maybe S1 or S2 depending on my budget.
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why not nexus phone ?
i do have plan to buy another android phone after i give my sgy to my girlfriend and back to my old rokr e6. but not this year. too much spending money for gadget this year.
encik_racun said:
wonder why no one want to make a battery saver kernel than superspeed kernel...
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i do. well, not full kernel, just kernel module. search bacem-tweak in dev section. but i find that the best thing you can do to save battery is keep your phone sleep as long as possible. that's means remove bloatware, limit installed app with service, and only turn data/wifi when needed. combine with undervoltage, usually i got 3-4 days in single charge. in some very rare condition i got 6-7 days.
irfanbagus said:
why not nexus phone ?
i do have plan to buy another android phone after i give my sgy to my girlfriend and back to my old rokr e6. but not this year. too much spending .
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Sir i want to ask you onething, offtopic, in nexus there is no memorycard slot, so we have to keep all data including gallery files and even a new rom in phone memory. If we want to flash a new rom, then how can we do that? While we wipe the data and cache before flashing all data will be deleted? The rom file too?.
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I am using juice defender, i think it's good.
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Anyone else feels battery drains a lot faster on 4.1.2

Korean ver.
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nope, same with latest 4.0.4
Much better now that it's rooted and setCPU profiles are enabled once again F180L owner.
I actually see a really nice improvement in battery life over 4.0.4. My wakelocks are now 1/4 of what they were. My problem is CPU related - cant get up (to 1.5 ghz... Throttled down to 1.1 almost all the time)
Emm, why do you need 1.5ghz?
Tim4 said:
Emm, why do you need 1.5ghz?
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I am so confused by this question
Because, like many other people, I bought this phone in part for its processing power. I could have saved a lot of money by getting a slower but uncrippled phone (even stock gingerbread on my Galaxy S was 'good enough' for basic tasks). And yes, I have noticed lags since the speed has been mostly capped at 1.1ghz. I dont expect there to be full speed all the time, but I'd like it to be as snappy as possible when I am doing light activities with it, like web browsing. Why would anybody be content to have a 30% reduction in their phone's capabilities?
UPDATE: the lags I was experiencing seem to have been softare related. They appear to have disappeared after a clean install of JB and manual install of all apps from play store
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Hentitan said:
Korean ver.
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Oh yeah. What is draining your battery? Is it a specific application or just the OS? If its the OS you can install Better Battery Stats and take a look at your kernel wakelock statistics.
Something wrong with your unit, cause mine one doesnt lag at all even on 700mhz with 2 cores disabled.
Also on 1.1ghz its still most powerfull CPU on the market, but its your way.
I believe you can disable thermal protection in service menu.
Tim4 said:
Something wrong with your unit, cause mine one doesnt lag at all even on 700mhz with 2 cores disabled.
Also on 1.1ghz its still most powerfull CPU on the market, but its your way.
I believe you can disable thermal protection in service menu.
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Thanks for your advice to check the service menu in more depth but I didnt see the option there. I wouldnt really want to disable it if I could since it does have a use (I'd rather my battery didnt overheat and explode or something ).
Unlikely that there is something wrong with my unit. The lags arent choppy, per se, but more fractional delays that werent there before the upgrade to JB. I probably would not have said anything if I hadn't seen the phone's prior behaviour. And yes, it is my way - I like things to function as they were intended regardless of whether the current performance is "good enough". Lopping off the top multiplier almost entirely seems like a crude way to regulate the operation and temperature of the phone [.. but the new information below suggests that this isnt intentional...] . If I have to compromise at some level, I will gladly take this (nearly imperceptible) loss of function for the improved battery life I am seeing in this ROM.
Update: the weird frequencies I have been seeing have been reported by others using the same rom as me. It seems to be related to the kernel.
Here we go. Just installed setcpu to show you the service settings works. Also im able to set 100% brightness whenever i want.
I used to underclock cpu on ics, but someday ive realized LTE eats battery 10x times faster, so everything ive done with setcpu is kinda useless.
So i just dont care whats going on with cpu freq since it still lighting fast.
Also JB doesnt lag even on old 1ghz devices cause of triple buffer and forced vsync. I think you still should check your phone.
p.s. Latest F180K official rom
Tim4 said:
Here we go. Just installed setcpu to show you the service settings works. Also im able to set 100% brightness whenever i want.
I used to underclock cpu on ics, but someday ive realized LTE eats battery 10x times faster, so everything ive done with setcpu is kinda useless.
So i just dont care whats going on with cpu freq since it still lighting fast.
Also JB doesnt lag even on old 1ghz devices cause of triple buffer and forced vsync. I think you still should check your phone.
p.s. Latest F180K official rom
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Thanks again for your advice, although that screenshot has nothing to do with the service settings and JB does lag quite a bit on older 1 Ghz devices, as I can attest by having JB running on my Samsung Galaxy S. I reinstalled JB as cleanly as possible and manually reinstalled all my usual apps from the play store and the lags seem to have disappeared. Maybe there was a problem with my recovery softare ? I edited my earlier post to reflect this, but the change in CPU frequency is still there.
As I was trying to say before, you and I are using different phones and different roms. It seems to be a recognized quirk with the rom I am using that while the phone is unplugged, the cpu frequency and screen brightness are very heavily regulated (cannot run @ 1.5 or full brightness even while phone is cool; goes away when the phone is plugged in). Please do not start telling me that 100% brightness is as unnecessary as 100% cpu frequency (I dont ever use 100%). I think you and I will just disagree on acceptable limitations of capabilities, even if I agree with you that they dont affect normal phone use at all. I see it as a mystery that needs solving.
And I am glad to hear that your phone works so well with the official rom . I could wait for official JB on the e973 but I'm impatient and Houstonn did a great job with the port.
So your phone's service menu doesnt have the High Temperature Property and the Thermal Daemon disable buttons?
You still can ask someone to disassemble korean version service menu to find the flags so you can use it on E973
Tim4 said:
So your phone's service menu doesnt have the High Temperature Property and the Thermal Daemon disable buttons?
You still can ask someone to disassemble korean version service menu to find the flags so you can use it on E973
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There's a chance I'm still just missing it or looking for the wrong thing... Could I ask you to just take a screen shot of your menu setting for me?
Sure lol
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Sure lol
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ha ha, yeah I definitely dont have that option. Thanks a lot.
UPDATE: This fixed all problems
no hidden menu for korean versions?
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Actually the screenshot is from F180K
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[Q] Can I Limit CPU But Exclude Certain Apps?

Hey guys, just a lil' prelude:
Sorry if there is a similar thread, I did a quick search here and a couple places and didn't see anything. Also, sorry if it's a simple answer, it's eluding me at the moment.
My main question, as the title says, is this: I am looking for a way to limit my CPU as with profiles in setCPU or Rom Tool Box Pro. But I am looking in particular, if there is a way to do so, yet at the same time exclude certain apps; Such as benchmarks or games. In essence I want my processor to be limited so that it's saving battery until the point at which I launch an app where I might benefit from the improved/full CPU power. Is this at all possible?
I recently switched from Sense 6 to GPE and realized there is no power saving mode options in stock android, so my battery has been draining a bit faster than I am used to. I was running power saving mode continuously and just turning it off when needed, so I am probably going to end up just limiting it until I need to take off the limit, but if there was a way to get a hassle-free set up I would be super glad. I always enjoy a little tweaking, so if it takes a bit of work that's fine.
Anyways, lemme know, and thanks in advance!
Zombtastic said:
Hey guys, just a lil' prelude:
Sorry if there is a similar thread, I did a quick search here and a couple places and didn't see anything. Also, sorry if it's a simple answer, it's eluding me at the moment.
My main question, as the title says, is this: I am looking for a way to limit my CPU as with profiles in setCPU or Rom Tool Box Pro. But I am looking in particular, if there is a way to do so, yet at the same time exclude certain apps; Such as benchmarks or games. In essence I want my processor to be limited so that it's saving battery until the point at which I launch an app where I might benefit from the improved/full CPU power. Is this at all possible?
I recently switched from Sense 6 to GPE and realized there is no power saving mode options in stock android, so my battery has been draining a bit faster than I am used to. I was running power saving mode continuously and just turning it off when needed, so I am probably going to end up just limiting it until I need to take off the limit, but if there was a way to get a hassle-free set up I would be super glad. I always enjoy a little tweaking, so if it takes a bit of work that's fine.
Anyways, lemme know, and thanks in advance!
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Have you tried maybe setting up a CPU Control with Tasker? Yes I know...Tasker right
[TUT] Tasker CPU Control V5|Frequency/Governor Customisable Profiles|SetCPU with OCD
Tasker
CPU Control
Tasker Userguide
Tasker Wiki
Last 2 just to learn some more about it if you want.
I'm not aware of any other programs, will have to look into it more but even so, I'd be interested in knowing about it as well. Even though my phone runs great on battery life etc.
Well it's not exactly running bad I battery so much as I know it could be running better with a little help. Lol.
But, I shall definitely look into this when I get home from work. It looks like, from the few glanc s I gave it that this might be able to pull off what I was looking for. I didn't even think of Tasker (mostly because I don't know how to use it lol). I'll let you know how it goes.
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You can try using Per-app Modes
Zombtastic said:
Hey guys, just a lil' prelude:
Sorry if there is a similar thread, I did a quick search here and a couple places and didn't see anything. Also, sorry if it's a simple answer, it's eluding me at the moment.
My main question, as the title says, is this: I am looking for a way to limit my CPU as with profiles in setCPU or Rom Tool Box Pro. But I am looking in particular, if there is a way to do so, yet at the same time exclude certain apps; Such as benchmarks or games. In essence I want my processor to be limited so that it's saving battery until the point at which I launch an app where I might benefit from the improved/full CPU power. Is this at all possible?
I recently switched from Sense 6 to GPE and realized there is no power saving mode options in stock android, so my battery has been draining a bit faster than I am used to. I was running power saving mode continuously and just turning it off when needed, so I am probably going to end up just limiting it until I need to take off the limit, but if there was a way to get a hassle-free set up I would be super glad. I always enjoy a little tweaking, so if it takes a bit of work that's fine.
Anyways, lemme know, and thanks in advance!
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I think you must watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxE8J-K2LFI
llsantiago said:
You can try using Per-app Modes
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Kristi-Tech said:
I think you must watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxE8J-K2LFI
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Yeah that actually looks interesting, might be what he's looking for and probably won't be as difficult as setting up Tasker profiles. I might look into that one myself if only for curiosity purposes, nice find.:good:
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You can try using Per-app Modes
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Kristi-Tech said:
I think you must watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxE8J-K2LFI
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Thanks guys! Your Per-App-Modes led me to another suggestion here on XDA. So I think I am gonna try that first, but I never knew half of these options existed! Thanks for the help, I am gonna test each for a few days and see what I come up with. I am hoping the Xposed Framework works out because, seeing as I have a few other modules to get most of my tweaks done, having just another module would be nice and organized to have all my favorite tweaks and mods in one little area. Lol.

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