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back cover and picture quality

little irritated that i just realized that taking the back cover off my tilt2 made for better quality pictures. and i randomly clean the plastic lens cover on the back cover but pics still come out hazey.
anyone have this issue or tips to clean it?

asiancuta said:
little irritated that i just realized that taking the back cover off my tilt2 made for better quality pictures. and i randomly clean the plastic lens cover on the back cover but pics still come out hazey.
anyone have this issue or tips to clean it?
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Is the plastic cover scratched -- like from rubbing against something?

Ironically, I am having the same issue. I was just searching for a solution on here last night. It seems to have just happened within the past week. The cover on mine doesn't seem to be scratched.
I tried cleaning it vigorously with my shirt, but the haze wouldn't go away. A little more "cleaning" today and most of it seems to be gone.
My buddy fixes copiers, so I figured he might have something that will clean it up good. I will work on this tomorrow and see if I can get it cleared up.

nope no scratches or anything. i'm pretty careful with the phone since i paid full no-contract price for it i've done windex and rubbing alcohol via q-tip...but no success.
the drastic difference without the back cover is like going from watching standard tv without contacts to watching HD tv with contacts.

yeah, I noticed the same on my tilt 2. The plastic cover makes the pictures blurry. I ended up just removing the plastic camera piece from the back cover. The camera is recessed, so I don't see the need for a plastic cover. Works much better.

asiancuta said:
the drastic difference without the back cover is like going from watching standard tv without contacts to watching HD tv with contacts.
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Kinda like this:

I've got the European version of the TP2 - it doesn't have any screen in the back cover - just a hole!

big difference..
thanks for posting this....hadn't thought about this issue....
but checked it out...and yep...HUGE difference....
the plastic 'lens cover' looks like a pretty cheap plastic material....
even with the best care and cleaning it will ultimately change....
mine's filthy and scratched a little....
considering popping it out

I popped mine out and it looks a lot better now. The contrast/sharpness is much better without it. The camera is actually pretty decent now, weird that htc ruins the cam by putting these plastic pieces of crap over the lens!

jcterry said:
Kinda like this:
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that's exactly how my pictures came out. thanks for posting examples.
those of you that have popped that plastic cover off haven't had any dust or foreign debri issues getting in the phone, without it? that's my only concern.

Nice find asiancuta the camera is so much better thanks for sharing.

It's not because the lense is dirty, I tried it the same day the TILT2 came out, fresh out of the box. So it's not a dirty lense, i had the same issue with the TILT 1 , its the protective lense cover, it's just cheap and not clear. so you could remove it , some people even drilled a hole in it. It will allow for dust to get under the cover more, but it gets under there anyways, you can blow it out every once in awhile, instead over removing your cover and having people look at you like your retarded.

magnaman750 said:
Nice find asiancuta the camera is so much better thanks for sharing.
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no prob. figured picture quality was a lens cover issue..went on a hunch. loving the pictures and the phone so much more now
bwnotredame06 said:
It's not because the lense is dirty, I tried it the same day the TILT2 came out, fresh out of the box. So it's not a dirty lense, i had the same issue with the TILT 1 , its the protective lense cover, it's just cheap and not clear. so you could remove it , some people even drilled a hole in it. It will allow for dust to get under the cover more, but it gets under there anyways, you can blow it out every once in awhile, instead over removing your cover and having people look at you like your retarded.
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true..i airblow mine once a week at least. dust build up is incredible...pretty much a dust magnet. looks like i'll attempt to drill a hole or take the plastic off completely. picture quality is too d*** good without it

If you are concerned about dust, when removing the clear plastic piece, place a small piece of gaffers or masking tape (with one end curled over) on the hole. This will create a small flap that will prevent dust from entering. When it's time to take a photo just peel back the tape a little.

Also No need to Drill a hole, from the outside push on lense protector inward, and it pops right off, if you decide later, you can put it back on real easy.

bwnotredame06 said:
Also No need to Drill a hole, from the outside push on lense protector inward, and it pops right off, if you decide later, you can put it back on real easy.
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i'm gonna keep the plastic off for a couple of days and see how it goes.

side note and another small observation: looks like a slight bad design flaw on HTC's part, for the HTC Tilt 2 if you look at other phones...blackberry, nokia's, and even the HTC Pure..basic keyboardless version of the Tilt2...you can see the lens higher up on the back of the phone. now hold you're phone as you usually would while browsing the web or checking the weather. don't know bout anyone else, but i place my pointing finger along the back of the phone as stable support..unknowingly covering the lens part. that and possible oxidation (the yellow discoloring that occurs on your car's headlights) may lead to the bad quality pictures.

Night and day difference in popping out that cheap plastic lens. WOW, better then my 3.1 digital camera now.

Yeah, I did that on my Kaiser and it was much better. Bought a replacement back cover just for that purpose, but I can't find another cover specifically for the Tilt 2 yet, so I just can't bring myself to do it to this phone yet.
Debbie

I got my TP2 just one and a half week ago new here in Germany. And there was no plastic lense in the battery cover, just a hole.
But the quality of the camera is more than poor. I had an SE X1 with the same 3.2 MP before it -that was goot quality. The TP2's quality is more than poor compared with the X1. Like 1 MP (TP2) to 3 MP (X1). Even at a good sunny day a picture in a garden is without sharpness at the edges and in the bottom of the front. The camera of the X1 I used more and more often instead of my standard digital camera for same easy pictures and it was ok. But the camera of the TP2 ist unusable compared with the X1

[FIXED] Camera lens blurred

Hi guys, just noticed that my DZ camera lens is "blurred" out bad (I don't use my phone's cam regularly). It looks like scratches, see photos, but its more like coating wear off. I've seen disassembly photos, and it seems that the lens is glued to the back housing, which costs $89.99! Any suggestions to solve this problem? Thanks!

Are you able to get a replacement from your carrier for free?
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Um, carrier, no, but warranty is still available, but I read in the warranty statement that scratches or cracks on lens are not covered.
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Try ti check ebay and see what u can find. If not and all fails, get some plastic x ploish. And rub it on there. I used that stuff for my headlights, ipod and some other clear plastic stuff. It always worked out great.
The stuff is called plastic x its about $5 from walmart
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Thanks for the tip. EBay doesn't seem to have the back housing, however I found one at HTCrepairparts.com for $89.90. I'll try to visit the service center, and hopefully get it fixed, with the right words (got my touch fixed that way ). If all else fails, i'll try looking for that polish. Thanks!
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Just got back my Desire Z from servicing, and its beautiful, they totally changed the back lens, which included the back housing! Awesome, no more smudges now!

toothpaste
I had the same problem with my HTC G2, with the camera so scratched all my pics were blurred. I fixed it pretty cheaply by polishing the lens with a little bit of toothpaste! 2 mins of rubbing with toothpaste and a little bit of cardboard and 95% of the lens is clear again and scratch free. My pics are sharp and in focus again. I have a few minor marks around the edge still as they are hard to reach, but they are not affecting the picture or focusing.
Hope this helps somebody

what kind of tooth paste and how does this work?

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what kind of tooth paste and how does this work?
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Is this a joke, toothpaste? Come on guys. Should have gone with Squaretrade.

Tooth paste has mild abrasive in it. This isn't a joke and really does work.
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Not a joke bro, it does work. Works on headlight lenses as well!
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hey guys i am going to buy new replacement back for only $14 problem is you have to spend at least $50 because its for wholesalers i just need one anyone want to buy some off me through ebay or paypal so im not stuck with the extras because of the 50 dollar limit. heres the link http://www.mengtor.com/product_show.php?category=668&pid=3365

Hi reeshmd,
I'm very interested in getting a new back cover.
However, i have three questions:
1. Is it original one? Because the price seems too low, and this part must fit perfectly!
2. To change it, we need to void warranty, or not? One screw is covered with a "VOID" sticker.
3. There seems to be 2 different versions of the cover (A & B), how do you know which one to get?
Thanks.
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About the scratches itself (i have exactly the same thing as first post pictures show), it looks to me more like some coverage is gone, which probably filtered UVA&B and/or IR light. I say that because not only my pictures are blured now, but also they always look completely over exposed.
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Could anyone send a very clear zoomed picture of the camera glass in perfect shape? The same pics as the ones of the first post, but of a new DZ or G2.
Thanks

allanl-o said:
I had the same problem with my HTC G2, with the camera so scratched all my pics were blurred. I fixed it pretty cheaply by polishing the lens with a little bit of toothpaste! 2 mins of rubbing with toothpaste and a little bit of cardboard and 95% of the lens is clear again and scratch free. My pics are sharp and in focus again. I have a few minor marks around the edge still as they are hard to reach, but they are not affecting the picture or focusing.
Hope this helps somebody
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That is working BIG THX man

My camera lens had similar problems too. I tried toothpaste and now my pictures are brilliant! Thank you for the tip
One question though, is the plastic cover coated therefore there was scratches or was the "scratches" just dirt? I'm wondering if rubbing with toothpaste would rub-off the coating (if there was one to begin with)

geot10 said:
My camera lens had similar problems too. I tried toothpaste and now my pictures are brilliant! Thank you for the tip
One question though, is the plastic cover coated therefore there was scratches or was the "scratches" just dirt? I'm wondering if rubbing with toothpaste would rub-off the coating (if there was one to begin with)
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There is a coating, and it would have reduced flare/glares, however if it was so grimmy to begin with, the coating was going to go one way or another. But least without it the contracts is quite a bit higher than default.

I used Plastic Booster (a cleaner for plastic food containers) to clean the plastic cover on my old Shadow camera before and it made quite a difference. I think mine was due to just sweat/dirt that discolored the plastic and made everything blurry.

allanl-o said:
I had the same problem with my HTC G2, with the camera so scratched all my pics were blurred. I fixed it pretty cheaply by polishing the lens with a little bit of toothpaste! 2 mins of rubbing with toothpaste and a little bit of cardboard and 95% of the lens is clear again and scratch free. My pics are sharp and in focus again. I have a few minor marks around the edge still as they are hard to reach, but they are not affecting the picture or focusing.
Hope this helps somebody
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Thanks a lot for the toothpaste idea dude. it worked like a charm!!!

Any more tips on what to do with it?
Mine camera thingy is getting scratchy too.
Can I just remove it?
or either, how to polish it

Thanks for the toothpaste trick. Worked brilliantly. Already fixed two different Desire Z phone lenses with it.
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scratches on the camera lens

Hi guys,
did any of you have scratches on the cam lens, in the middle, that affects pictures. i have the phone for more than 2 months and looks like that each month there is a new scratch on the lens. so far i was lucky enough not to get it in the middle but looks like at 1 point my luck will run out and 1 will hit the middle.
im just refusing to use a case because i think it looks ugly and will steal from the beauty of this device.

I have not had any problems with scratching but then im using a case where the case is just sticking out a bit more then the lense as to protect it also the case is clear so still looks nice

You can get cases that will compliment your phone and peotect the lens. Best if you try on cases yourself before buying.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

Never had an scratch and also no cases for more than 40day.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

I agree OP - cases suck.
I also have a scratched camera lens. I cut a screen protector out and put it on, but thought that it might effect image quality.
Its a buzz killer ....

since its a matter of time now till my cam lens will get scratched in the middle last night i did a little experiment. i took a piece of hair and stick it in the middle on the lens. well i have to admit that, i dont know how this camera is focusing, but there was no trace of the hair in the pic.
ill give it another try with something thicker now

Restoring lens
jargalus said:
Hi guys,
did any of you have scratches on the cam lens, in the middle, that affects pictures. i have the phone for more than 2 months and looks like that each month there is a new scratch on the lens. so far i was lucky enough not to get it in the middle but looks like at 1 point my luck will run out and 1 will hit the middle.
im just refusing to use a case because i think it looks ugly and will steal from the beauty of this device.
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Hi,
I had the same problem exactly, and i have just joined to give you the solution that I used. My HTC photos are sharp and clear as before now.
The solution is very simple ... all what you need is a clean glasses cleaning cloth, glass cleaner (like windex) and tooth paste !! yes tooth paste!
First clean the cover with the glass cleaner ... keep it wet .. apply a tiny portion of tooth paste on it .. rub it with the cloth ... keep it wet all the time.
Repeat till you get the lens back to its original state ... or at least 90 % ... the technique used is similar to the one used in cleaning car head lights .. similar to this video for example:
youtube. com/watch?v=b1_sFEOGTMc
I hope u find it useful.

aldebsi said:
Hi,
I had the same problem exactly, and i have just joined to give you the solution that I used. My HTC photos are sharp and clear as before now.
The solution is very simple ... all what you need is a clean glasses cleaning cloth, glass cleaner (like windex) and tooth paste !! yes tooth paste!
First clean the cover with the glass cleaner ... keep it wet .. apply a tiny portion of tooth paste on it .. rub it with the cloth ... keep it wet all the time.
Repeat till you get the lens back to its original state ... or at least 90 % ... the technique used is similar to the one used in cleaning car head lights .. similar to this video for example:
youtube. com/watch?v=b1_sFEOGTMc
I hope u find it useful.
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AMAZING!
IT SOUNDS so silly, but indeed, it WORKS.
I was getting washed out pictures on my beautiful, 4-month-old, otherwise unscratched HOX+. This device is so beautiful, it's crazy that HTC did not pick up this design flaw. But now, my pictures are SO much better... THANKS!

Guide to renew your camera lens

After of using my HOX for more than a year, without any protection case, camera start to have focus issues and took blur photos because of micro scratches on lens.
There is no need to replace whole case.
All what you need is:
- sheet of water sand paper at least 1500
- piece of soft cloth
- car abrasive paste
- 20 minutes (using drill) to 1 hour free time (hand job).
Additional but not necessary, but very helpful:
- drill with felt polishing wheel - will speed up full process
Instructions:
1. Clean camera lens with soft cloth
2. Apply 1 drop of water to lens
3. take little sheet of water paper (1x1cm was enough for me) and start to rub your lens in circular motion.
After 20 seconds it will became milky mat - don't worry it's necessary to smooth full lens surface from scratches.
4. When no holes/scratches will left on surface (after 1-2 minutes) clean slurry water from sand paper using soft cloth.
5. Put a drop of car abrasive paste and start to polish using soft cloth in circular motion.
To speed up process use drill with felt polishing wheel at low speed.
If you don't have one it can be easy to made using double side tape, ordinary polishing wheel and piece of felt.
Lens should be wet from paste and stay in neutral room temperature all the time, so apply paste often and don't let lens became hot.
WARNING: pushing too hard and using high speed will produce overheating and can deform your lens.
If lens became too warm let it cool down, and continue polishing.
6. Clean lens using dry cloth and see effect. If surface will be crystal clear, see your lens at different angles under bright light to see if any defects left. If still there's something repeat #5 and #6.
I repeated #5 and #6 something about 30 times until lens look as they should; it took no more than 15 minutes.
Right now lens look like new and HOX camera took photos without any blur images.
After that it's harder to took a photo of a perfect clear lens without scratches than polish that lens
I tried this also on watch glass and motorcycle headlight - results as above, full success.
Disclaimer: I'm not responsible for any damage caused by using this tutorial.
Proper removing scratches it's not difficult, but if you have booth left hands something can go wrong.

Front Camera is blurry.

I think its got a lot of dust and dirt in it. I had a small lift on my speaker grill from day 1 of my purchase and didnt really care, but I think its been accumulating a lot of dust on my front facing camera. Its made it really blurry.
Does anyone know a way to clean the camera? I'm guessing the grill has to come off and then it'd be easy. But I don't know how to open to grill without damaging the phone or putting the grill back without making it even more loose than it should...

It's been found that our cameras have a thin film across them that becomes dirty and scratched and makes it blurry. I had this on both front and back. Solution I found is to put a drop of water very carefully on the camera lense and rub it with the corner of a credit card, just a little pressure will do it. I'll pull that film off and your camera will be as clear as the day you bought it. I haven't had any blurry issues since I did it about 8 months ago.

i had the same issue with the rear camera so i just used some glass cleaner and now the pictures come out nice and clear