back cover and picture quality - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

little irritated that i just realized that taking the back cover off my tilt2 made for better quality pictures. and i randomly clean the plastic lens cover on the back cover but pics still come out hazey.
anyone have this issue or tips to clean it?

asiancuta said:
little irritated that i just realized that taking the back cover off my tilt2 made for better quality pictures. and i randomly clean the plastic lens cover on the back cover but pics still come out hazey.
anyone have this issue or tips to clean it?
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Is the plastic cover scratched -- like from rubbing against something?

Ironically, I am having the same issue. I was just searching for a solution on here last night. It seems to have just happened within the past week. The cover on mine doesn't seem to be scratched.
I tried cleaning it vigorously with my shirt, but the haze wouldn't go away. A little more "cleaning" today and most of it seems to be gone.
My buddy fixes copiers, so I figured he might have something that will clean it up good. I will work on this tomorrow and see if I can get it cleared up.

nope no scratches or anything. i'm pretty careful with the phone since i paid full no-contract price for it i've done windex and rubbing alcohol via q-tip...but no success.
the drastic difference without the back cover is like going from watching standard tv without contacts to watching HD tv with contacts.

yeah, I noticed the same on my tilt 2. The plastic cover makes the pictures blurry. I ended up just removing the plastic camera piece from the back cover. The camera is recessed, so I don't see the need for a plastic cover. Works much better.

asiancuta said:
the drastic difference without the back cover is like going from watching standard tv without contacts to watching HD tv with contacts.
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Kinda like this:

I've got the European version of the TP2 - it doesn't have any screen in the back cover - just a hole!

big difference..
thanks for posting this....hadn't thought about this issue....
but checked it out...and yep...HUGE difference....
the plastic 'lens cover' looks like a pretty cheap plastic material....
even with the best care and cleaning it will ultimately change....
mine's filthy and scratched a little....
considering popping it out

I popped mine out and it looks a lot better now. The contrast/sharpness is much better without it. The camera is actually pretty decent now, weird that htc ruins the cam by putting these plastic pieces of crap over the lens!

jcterry said:
Kinda like this:
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that's exactly how my pictures came out. thanks for posting examples.
those of you that have popped that plastic cover off haven't had any dust or foreign debri issues getting in the phone, without it? that's my only concern.

Nice find asiancuta the camera is so much better thanks for sharing.

It's not because the lense is dirty, I tried it the same day the TILT2 came out, fresh out of the box. So it's not a dirty lense, i had the same issue with the TILT 1 , its the protective lense cover, it's just cheap and not clear. so you could remove it , some people even drilled a hole in it. It will allow for dust to get under the cover more, but it gets under there anyways, you can blow it out every once in awhile, instead over removing your cover and having people look at you like your retarded.

magnaman750 said:
Nice find asiancuta the camera is so much better thanks for sharing.
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no prob. figured picture quality was a lens cover issue..went on a hunch. loving the pictures and the phone so much more now
bwnotredame06 said:
It's not because the lense is dirty, I tried it the same day the TILT2 came out, fresh out of the box. So it's not a dirty lense, i had the same issue with the TILT 1 , its the protective lense cover, it's just cheap and not clear. so you could remove it , some people even drilled a hole in it. It will allow for dust to get under the cover more, but it gets under there anyways, you can blow it out every once in awhile, instead over removing your cover and having people look at you like your retarded.
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true..i airblow mine once a week at least. dust build up is incredible...pretty much a dust magnet. looks like i'll attempt to drill a hole or take the plastic off completely. picture quality is too d*** good without it

If you are concerned about dust, when removing the clear plastic piece, place a small piece of gaffers or masking tape (with one end curled over) on the hole. This will create a small flap that will prevent dust from entering. When it's time to take a photo just peel back the tape a little.

Also No need to Drill a hole, from the outside push on lense protector inward, and it pops right off, if you decide later, you can put it back on real easy.

bwnotredame06 said:
Also No need to Drill a hole, from the outside push on lense protector inward, and it pops right off, if you decide later, you can put it back on real easy.
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i'm gonna keep the plastic off for a couple of days and see how it goes.

side note and another small observation: looks like a slight bad design flaw on HTC's part, for the HTC Tilt 2 if you look at other phones...blackberry, nokia's, and even the HTC Pure..basic keyboardless version of the Tilt2...you can see the lens higher up on the back of the phone. now hold you're phone as you usually would while browsing the web or checking the weather. don't know bout anyone else, but i place my pointing finger along the back of the phone as stable support..unknowingly covering the lens part. that and possible oxidation (the yellow discoloring that occurs on your car's headlights) may lead to the bad quality pictures.

Night and day difference in popping out that cheap plastic lens. WOW, better then my 3.1 digital camera now.

Yeah, I did that on my Kaiser and it was much better. Bought a replacement back cover just for that purpose, but I can't find another cover specifically for the Tilt 2 yet, so I just can't bring myself to do it to this phone yet.
Debbie

I got my TP2 just one and a half week ago new here in Germany. And there was no plastic lense in the battery cover, just a hole.
But the quality of the camera is more than poor. I had an SE X1 with the same 3.2 MP before it -that was goot quality. The TP2's quality is more than poor compared with the X1. Like 1 MP (TP2) to 3 MP (X1). Even at a good sunny day a picture in a garden is without sharpness at the edges and in the bottom of the front. The camera of the X1 I used more and more often instead of my standard digital camera for same easy pictures and it was ok. But the camera of the TP2 ist unusable compared with the X1

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Question about battery cover

I have a European Touch Pro2 and unfortunately I managed to drop it a couple of days ago. Luckily there was no obvious damage. However, when it hit the ground the battery cover came off. I just put it back on checked for damage and carried on with a high sense of relief.
However, I have now noticed one thing that I don't know if it's always been there and I am just being paranoid or not. On the part of the back cover that covers the camera lense is there meant to be a bit of plastic or something? On my cover I can put my finger right through it and touch the lense inside the device.
I hope I am making sense here...; what I'm trying to ask is should there be a hole in the case where the camera is just above the straight talk mute button or should there be something there to keep the dust out?
Thanks.
yes there's supposed to be plastic & the actual camera lense is NOT supposed to be exposed.
I've got just a hole on the back of mine which was supplied by Orange in the UK..and it was deffinitely like it out of the box.
The US ones with the different shell may have some other arrangemment.
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yeah my vodafone uk one just has a hole, no plastic or anything to cover the lens.
Thanks guys, I was thinking of ordering another back cover but I didn't want to waste £25 just to find out it was the same. Good to see I'm just being paranoid. A plastic cover would make sense though; it seems like an invitation to dust.
I'll go back to enjoying the phone now .

Going naked... how is your camera?

So I decided to NOT but a case around my pretty phone an go naked for a bit. The concern is about the camera lens. I have been getting more and more "careless" with the phone.. not putting it on a soft napkin and just laying it on a table. I have a screen protector on the front so maybe I should just lay it face down. But I am wondering.. anyone have an issue with the camera without using a hard case? The lens actually seems pretty strong....
I've never used an extra case for a phone, they already come with a nice sexy hard plastic one. However with the Evo i would never use it without a screen protector. I think the lens is decently strong, it can take being set down on. Still be careful though.
I use nothing at all not even a screen protector..and it's in perfect condition..i hope it stays like that
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I am hunting for a case right now. The phone got pushed by someone's elbow across the table and the sound nearly made my ears bleed and my heart stop. Luckily it didn't do anything to the raised camera, but I am not risking it again.
The Nexus lens is a lot like the Evo lens. I've had mine going for 3 months with rough use and there are a few tiny scratches on the lens, but nothing major. it doesn't effect the image quality at all.
I wouldn't be too worried
my zagg came with a cut out for the camera, going to just drop that on there
I got rid of my Hard case and got the Zagg full body and seidio holster my camera is holding up fine no scratches and i don't lay it flat on the screen
Do what I do...
Pop open the back case, and put on a square piece of CLEAR tape (not the scotch kind), packaging tape seems to work pretty well. Make sure it doesn't overlap on to the back speaker as it can reduce the phone's loudness. Then put the case back on. From time to time just replace the tape when it gets too scratched up.
Screen protector and nothing else. I normally leave the phone screen down on the desk.
I am not that concerned about the camera. There is always a way to replace parts on these phones (you can replace the screen 'relatively' easily also). I am sure I would be able to replace the camera cover/plastic/glass piece.
going streaking
been using it with out any screenprotectir abd case, not a single scratch *knock on wood* the new age screens are not ment to be used with a screen protector, and case just BLAH UGLY
I use a black silicon case and screen protector. I went nude for a while and I was just too nervous about it. The case is easy to take off, so if I let someone play with it, I often just take it off first so they can see just how nice the phone is. Something I like about the case is that the lens doesn't touch the surface when I lay it down - and I don't lay it on the screen, not that it would matter.
Another plus is that it doesn't slip out of my pocket like it used to (and any other phones I've had) when I'm active. Lots of pluses. Just too bad this particular one doesn't look that cool (not bad though). I'd really like to find a similar case that actually looks cool, maybe sporty.
I always use the kickstand and just prop up my phone. I am having no issues at all.
no case no nothing
it's gonna get wear and tear
but you're gonna get a new phone in 1 - 2 years anyway right
I always use a case to keep the phone in good condition for when I sell it after I'm done with it. It always gets top dollar since all the other used ones online being sold are junked up. But to each their own I suppose. Good luck!
No case, no screen protector. Looks like it did when I got it June 4th.
I just ordered this today: http://www.handhelditems.com/product_info.php?cPath=3524_5132_7769&products_id=135999
And it's cheap and it looks like it will do the job just fine with out adding much profile. I'd choose this over a naked alternative. Mine is partially naked, it has a screen protector and has been fine since.
I'll let you know how this case is when I get it.
rutter9 said:
I always use a case to keep the phone in good condition for when I sell it after I'm done with it. It always gets top dollar since all the other used ones online being sold are junked up. But to each their own I suppose. Good luck!
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Same here. I always sell mine cause they still look new. I sold my Moment when I got my EVO and got $230 for it on eBay.
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I don't use a case and the camera is just fine, no scratches at all. I even dropped my phone on concrete like, the 3rd day I got it (missed my pocket lol) and the phone is completely fine, aside from a scratch on one of the corners that isn't noticeable unless you're looking for it. Speaking of which... I WANT A BUMPER CASE!! like this.. except black lol.
http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2010/06/11/pictures-of-iphone-4-bumper-cases-surface/
if anyone finds one let me know
I do not have any screen protector or case, and (until I get a dock) I set my phone down camera face down. I got it opening day and have no scratches on the screen, but there are tiny, minute scratches on the camera lens glass. Though they are contained within the black, non-lens area that reads "8.0 Megapixels". It almost seems like this was intentionally done, as when you set the phone down on the camera, it's at an angle and the viewable part of the lens doesn't seem to touch the table. Photos I take are unaffected. It seems harmless and I will keep going "naked" with mine. I'll try and take a close up pic of the affected area if anyone wants to see.
I've been really careful with the phone but got my first scratch on the lense yesterday. It must have happened in my pocket yet I only keep the phone by itself in there. The Evo is a beautiful phone but having that protruding lens is a retarded design.

scratches on the camera lens

Hi guys,
did any of you have scratches on the cam lens, in the middle, that affects pictures. i have the phone for more than 2 months and looks like that each month there is a new scratch on the lens. so far i was lucky enough not to get it in the middle but looks like at 1 point my luck will run out and 1 will hit the middle.
im just refusing to use a case because i think it looks ugly and will steal from the beauty of this device.
I have not had any problems with scratching but then im using a case where the case is just sticking out a bit more then the lense as to protect it also the case is clear so still looks nice
You can get cases that will compliment your phone and peotect the lens. Best if you try on cases yourself before buying.
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Never had an scratch and also no cases for more than 40day.
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I agree OP - cases suck.
I also have a scratched camera lens. I cut a screen protector out and put it on, but thought that it might effect image quality.
Its a buzz killer ....
since its a matter of time now till my cam lens will get scratched in the middle last night i did a little experiment. i took a piece of hair and stick it in the middle on the lens. well i have to admit that, i dont know how this camera is focusing, but there was no trace of the hair in the pic.
ill give it another try with something thicker now
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jargalus said:
Hi guys,
did any of you have scratches on the cam lens, in the middle, that affects pictures. i have the phone for more than 2 months and looks like that each month there is a new scratch on the lens. so far i was lucky enough not to get it in the middle but looks like at 1 point my luck will run out and 1 will hit the middle.
im just refusing to use a case because i think it looks ugly and will steal from the beauty of this device.
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Hi,
I had the same problem exactly, and i have just joined to give you the solution that I used. My HTC photos are sharp and clear as before now.
The solution is very simple ... all what you need is a clean glasses cleaning cloth, glass cleaner (like windex) and tooth paste !! yes tooth paste!
First clean the cover with the glass cleaner ... keep it wet .. apply a tiny portion of tooth paste on it .. rub it with the cloth ... keep it wet all the time.
Repeat till you get the lens back to its original state ... or at least 90 % ... the technique used is similar to the one used in cleaning car head lights .. similar to this video for example:
youtube. com/watch?v=b1_sFEOGTMc
I hope u find it useful.
aldebsi said:
Hi,
I had the same problem exactly, and i have just joined to give you the solution that I used. My HTC photos are sharp and clear as before now.
The solution is very simple ... all what you need is a clean glasses cleaning cloth, glass cleaner (like windex) and tooth paste !! yes tooth paste!
First clean the cover with the glass cleaner ... keep it wet .. apply a tiny portion of tooth paste on it .. rub it with the cloth ... keep it wet all the time.
Repeat till you get the lens back to its original state ... or at least 90 % ... the technique used is similar to the one used in cleaning car head lights .. similar to this video for example:
youtube. com/watch?v=b1_sFEOGTMc
I hope u find it useful.
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AMAZING!
IT SOUNDS so silly, but indeed, it WORKS.
I was getting washed out pictures on my beautiful, 4-month-old, otherwise unscratched HOX+. This device is so beautiful, it's crazy that HTC did not pick up this design flaw. But now, my pictures are SO much better... THANKS!

[Q] How severe is the One X lens cover scartch issue?

Hi all,
I own a HTC one X, i got it couple of months back. I recently noticed that my camera lens cover is pretty much scratched up, specially at the bottom where the whole phone's upper parts resides when laid flat. I tried taking pictures but see not much difference.
I just want to know how bad this issue is? How many of the HOX users here have this issue?
Should i be worried about the picture quality? Is there anyway i can figure out whether the scratches are affecting my pictures?
I Love my phone and seeing the scratches made me worried and i right away ordered a SPG Crumena leather pouch to avoid more scratches from coming in future. I now want to assess how will the scratches affect my pictures, can someone help me figure that out please.
Well I've read around on xda, that scratching the camera lens causes a deterioration in picture quality. Best way to confirm or check is to compare photos taken with your scratched up lens now vs an old picture taken with your new Htc One X i.e non-scratched lens.
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gnirujan said:
Hi all,
I own a HTC one X, i got it couple of months back. I recently noticed that my camera lens cover is pretty much scratched up, specially at the bottom where the whole phone's upper parts resides when laid flat. I tried taking pictures but see not much difference.
I just want to know how bad this issue is? How many of the HOX users here have this issue?
Should i be worried about the picture quality? Is there anyway i can figure out whether the scratches are affecting my pictures?
I Love my phone and seeing the scratches made me worried and i right away ordered a SPG Crumena leather pouch to avoid more scratches from coming in future. I now want to assess how will the scratches affect my pictures, can someone help me figure that out please.
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Hi,
I had the same problem exactly, and i have just joined to give you the solution that I used. My HTC photos are sharp and clear as before now.
The solution is very simple ... all what you need is a clean glasses cleaning cloth, glass cleaner (like windex) and tooth paste !! yes tooth paste!
First clean the cover with the glass cleaner ... keep it wet .. apply a tiny portion of tooth paste on it .. rub it with the cloth ... keep it wet all the time.
Repeat till you get the lens back to its original state ... or at least 90 % ... the technique used is similar to the one used in cleaning car head lights .. similar to this video for example:
youtube. com/watch?v=b1_sFEOGTMc
I hope u find it useful.

Dust Under Glass Over Camera

I've had this phone for about three weeks and after around two weeks, I noticed that the pictures were starting to come out fuzzy and overexposed looking. Finally realized that there was dust under the glass covering the camera lens. Unfortunately, since it's under the glass, I'd have to take it apart to clean it (or possibly send it to Amazon for warranty, if they cover it).
The issue is that even if I take it apart and clean it, the issue will come up again and I'd rather not have to constantly take it apart and clean (especially since it happened only after two weeks). Does anyone have any suggestion to prevent this from happening again, besides not keeping it in my pocket?
This seems like a poor quality design to me. I carried my previous phone in my pocket for four years without any issues.
Thanks.
I also seem to have this problem. I need to look up how to open my fire phone, because my pictures aren't focusing well anymore. I now have a phone case, so I hope dust will stop going under the lens.
I got the same issue, and I actually send my phone for replacement. That being said, before sending it I took a compressed air can with the tiny tiny applicator and sprayed inside the microfone on the back and and the gap in the bezel, it blew away everything inside blocking the camera. I suspect there is a defect where there is too much gap on either the microphone and the back or the bezel and the back, so I just returned it anyways. If I had no warranty, that's what I would do, just be gentle with that microphone or it will die, the compressed air released at full throttle will break that microphone.
I had the same problem (is quite common), but it's easy to fix if you have a little bit of manual skills. Just buy a torx t3 screwdriver and a suction cup, open the phone, clean the glass in front of the camera and close. 5 minutes of work.
If you search on ifixit there's a fire phone teardown that explain how to open it. Simple and fast.
I got mine replaced from Amazon.
Called Amazon, but they said that since I bought it from eBay, it's not covered under warranty. Considering I had the phone for only a few weeks, you'd think they'd support their own product. Ah well.
Initially I wanted to avoid opening up the phone, as to not void the warranty, but as it turns out, it's not covered anyway.
I've followed the iFixIt video and cleaned out the lens. So, it's good as new; however, this isn't something I want to be doing on a regular basis. Does anyone have any suggestions for keeping the dust out, besides not keeping it in my pocket?
Thanks.
ashram said:
Called Amazon, but they said that since I bought it from eBay, it's not covered under warranty. Considering I had the phone for only a few weeks, you'd think they'd support their own product. Ah well.
Initially I wanted to avoid opening up the phone, as to not void the warranty, but as it turns out, it's not covered anyway.
I've followed the iFixIt video and cleaned out the lens. So, it's good as new; however, this isn't something I want to be doing on a regular basis. Does anyone have any suggestions for keeping the dust out, besides not keeping it in my pocket?
Thanks.
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Unfortunately there's not much that can be done about this AFAIK. As stated above, there is a design flaw where the microphone on the back let's in the dust, so unless you cover it, you'll end up needed to clean it every once in a while. But I've also noticed not too much distortion in the photos.
iFixit has a great pictures and guides for dismantling the fire phone. This is what I used to open mine up to clean the camera glass. Note it is well worth cleaning the lens as the camera auto focus works much faster when clean.
https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Amazon_Fire_Phone
I have to clean my camera every month.
I think I should buy a new phone right now.
stunvn said:
I have to clean my camera every month.
I think I should buy a new phone right now.
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I do the same every other month. Very annoying. At least with the right screwdriver and a suction cup is pretty fast and easy to open and clean it.
Next time I open mine to clean, I am going to try an remedy the issue by adding a foam washer (or my DIY version of double sided sticky foam tape cut into a washer) around the lens..

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