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little irritated that i just realized that taking the back cover off my tilt2 made for better quality pictures. and i randomly clean the plastic lens cover on the back cover but pics still come out hazey.
anyone have this issue or tips to clean it?
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little irritated that i just realized that taking the back cover off my tilt2 made for better quality pictures. and i randomly clean the plastic lens cover on the back cover but pics still come out hazey.
anyone have this issue or tips to clean it?
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Is the plastic cover scratched -- like from rubbing against something?
Ironically, I am having the same issue. I was just searching for a solution on here last night. It seems to have just happened within the past week. The cover on mine doesn't seem to be scratched.
I tried cleaning it vigorously with my shirt, but the haze wouldn't go away. A little more "cleaning" today and most of it seems to be gone.
My buddy fixes copiers, so I figured he might have something that will clean it up good. I will work on this tomorrow and see if I can get it cleared up.
nope no scratches or anything. i'm pretty careful with the phone since i paid full no-contract price for it i've done windex and rubbing alcohol via q-tip...but no success.
the drastic difference without the back cover is like going from watching standard tv without contacts to watching HD tv with contacts.
yeah, I noticed the same on my tilt 2. The plastic cover makes the pictures blurry. I ended up just removing the plastic camera piece from the back cover. The camera is recessed, so I don't see the need for a plastic cover. Works much better.
asiancuta said:
the drastic difference without the back cover is like going from watching standard tv without contacts to watching HD tv with contacts.
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Kinda like this:
I've got the European version of the TP2 - it doesn't have any screen in the back cover - just a hole!
big difference..
thanks for posting this....hadn't thought about this issue....
but checked it out...and yep...HUGE difference....
the plastic 'lens cover' looks like a pretty cheap plastic material....
even with the best care and cleaning it will ultimately change....
mine's filthy and scratched a little....
considering popping it out
I popped mine out and it looks a lot better now. The contrast/sharpness is much better without it. The camera is actually pretty decent now, weird that htc ruins the cam by putting these plastic pieces of crap over the lens!
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that's exactly how my pictures came out. thanks for posting examples.
those of you that have popped that plastic cover off haven't had any dust or foreign debri issues getting in the phone, without it? that's my only concern.
Nice find asiancuta the camera is so much better thanks for sharing.
It's not because the lense is dirty, I tried it the same day the TILT2 came out, fresh out of the box. So it's not a dirty lense, i had the same issue with the TILT 1 , its the protective lense cover, it's just cheap and not clear. so you could remove it , some people even drilled a hole in it. It will allow for dust to get under the cover more, but it gets under there anyways, you can blow it out every once in awhile, instead over removing your cover and having people look at you like your retarded.
magnaman750 said:
Nice find asiancuta the camera is so much better thanks for sharing.
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no prob. figured picture quality was a lens cover issue..went on a hunch. loving the pictures and the phone so much more now
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It's not because the lense is dirty, I tried it the same day the TILT2 came out, fresh out of the box. So it's not a dirty lense, i had the same issue with the TILT 1 , its the protective lense cover, it's just cheap and not clear. so you could remove it , some people even drilled a hole in it. It will allow for dust to get under the cover more, but it gets under there anyways, you can blow it out every once in awhile, instead over removing your cover and having people look at you like your retarded.
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true..i airblow mine once a week at least. dust build up is incredible...pretty much a dust magnet. looks like i'll attempt to drill a hole or take the plastic off completely. picture quality is too d*** good without it
If you are concerned about dust, when removing the clear plastic piece, place a small piece of gaffers or masking tape (with one end curled over) on the hole. This will create a small flap that will prevent dust from entering. When it's time to take a photo just peel back the tape a little.
Also No need to Drill a hole, from the outside push on lense protector inward, and it pops right off, if you decide later, you can put it back on real easy.
bwnotredame06 said:
Also No need to Drill a hole, from the outside push on lense protector inward, and it pops right off, if you decide later, you can put it back on real easy.
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i'm gonna keep the plastic off for a couple of days and see how it goes.
side note and another small observation: looks like a slight bad design flaw on HTC's part, for the HTC Tilt 2 if you look at other phones...blackberry, nokia's, and even the HTC Pure..basic keyboardless version of the Tilt2...you can see the lens higher up on the back of the phone. now hold you're phone as you usually would while browsing the web or checking the weather. don't know bout anyone else, but i place my pointing finger along the back of the phone as stable support..unknowingly covering the lens part. that and possible oxidation (the yellow discoloring that occurs on your car's headlights) may lead to the bad quality pictures.
Night and day difference in popping out that cheap plastic lens. WOW, better then my 3.1 digital camera now.
Yeah, I did that on my Kaiser and it was much better. Bought a replacement back cover just for that purpose, but I can't find another cover specifically for the Tilt 2 yet, so I just can't bring myself to do it to this phone yet.
Debbie
I got my TP2 just one and a half week ago new here in Germany. And there was no plastic lense in the battery cover, just a hole.
But the quality of the camera is more than poor. I had an SE X1 with the same 3.2 MP before it -that was goot quality. The TP2's quality is more than poor compared with the X1. Like 1 MP (TP2) to 3 MP (X1). Even at a good sunny day a picture in a garden is without sharpness at the edges and in the bottom of the front. The camera of the X1 I used more and more often instead of my standard digital camera for same easy pictures and it was ok. But the camera of the TP2 ist unusable compared with the X1
Hi,
I have an HTC Desire which is a little over a week old, though on Saturday I got my desire knocked out of my hand and took a fall onto gravel and the battery cover's camera lens cracked and now has a thick crack through the middle which is not much of a problem as it is easily replaceable, though the glass which covers the lens/sensor cracked into many pieces though I do not know if it is a filter of some sort or just some dust protector. (I can still use the camera without a problem).
Should I send it for repair to get the protector put in, or will I be ok just buying a new battery cover?
Thanks!
It's likely not just a filter of some sort, but an important part of the optical design. It could be replaceable, but normally replacing lens elements requires re-calibration of the entire lens itself. I doubt though, that they would replace just a part of the lens, they would likely swap the entire thing. I'm pretty sure HTC buy these lenses/modules already assembled and calibrated from someone who specializes in making such things.
Mac
Thanks a lot for the detailed reply! Will be sending to be repaired today. Thanks again
Hi All,
Just for everyone benefit i also cracked the back cover plastic screen and also the glass screen on the camera as well. The back cover is easily replaceable by a new back cover off eBay for £12.99 or the lens piece itself for about a £5 i think, which is easy to find but i decided to replace the internal glass myself. I found this on eBay for £7.49:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ORIGINAL-HTC-...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item230c703e97
Using an old sack pin i manage to remove the cracked glass, the trick is to prize up the black plastic the glass is stuck too, that way no shards fall off into the camera itself.
I thoroughly cleaned the camera and new glass with an anti-static wipe.
You have to push out gently the four plastic stripes round the camera that the glass fits into so the new glass fits it snuggly when you push it in.
I did make a hash of it to begin with and touched the back of the glass so it was smudged and got a bit of glue on it. I put an anti-static wipe on the needle end of the sack pin and cleaned it thoroughly and this did the trick. To test it though use barcode scanner as well as the camera app.
I haven't much patience and have large fingers, i guess you could take more time and use more precise tools to do a better job but as the camera isn't the most important function for me this was fine.
I did contact the HTC repair shop that was listed on XDA and this was there reply:
Hi,
You’re looking at between £39.95 and £64.95
Thanks in advance
Regards
MRC Team
www.mobilerepaircentre.com - (CLICK THIS LINK TO BOOK IN A REPAIR/REQUEST A QUOTE)
I guess if you have phone insurance that would be a better way to go but as i didn't i saved a few quid doing it myself, it only took 15 mins to do, not hard at all.
Good luck to anyone else who attempts this!
I had the same problem with my phone and I sent it away to redstafford.co.uk and I got it back in about 3 days, all new and shiny... highly recommend!
So I decided to NOT but a case around my pretty phone an go naked for a bit. The concern is about the camera lens. I have been getting more and more "careless" with the phone.. not putting it on a soft napkin and just laying it on a table. I have a screen protector on the front so maybe I should just lay it face down. But I am wondering.. anyone have an issue with the camera without using a hard case? The lens actually seems pretty strong....
I've never used an extra case for a phone, they already come with a nice sexy hard plastic one. However with the Evo i would never use it without a screen protector. I think the lens is decently strong, it can take being set down on. Still be careful though.
I use nothing at all not even a screen protector..and it's in perfect condition..i hope it stays like that
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I am hunting for a case right now. The phone got pushed by someone's elbow across the table and the sound nearly made my ears bleed and my heart stop. Luckily it didn't do anything to the raised camera, but I am not risking it again.
The Nexus lens is a lot like the Evo lens. I've had mine going for 3 months with rough use and there are a few tiny scratches on the lens, but nothing major. it doesn't effect the image quality at all.
I wouldn't be too worried
my zagg came with a cut out for the camera, going to just drop that on there
I got rid of my Hard case and got the Zagg full body and seidio holster my camera is holding up fine no scratches and i don't lay it flat on the screen
Do what I do...
Pop open the back case, and put on a square piece of CLEAR tape (not the scotch kind), packaging tape seems to work pretty well. Make sure it doesn't overlap on to the back speaker as it can reduce the phone's loudness. Then put the case back on. From time to time just replace the tape when it gets too scratched up.
Screen protector and nothing else. I normally leave the phone screen down on the desk.
I am not that concerned about the camera. There is always a way to replace parts on these phones (you can replace the screen 'relatively' easily also). I am sure I would be able to replace the camera cover/plastic/glass piece.
going streaking
been using it with out any screenprotectir abd case, not a single scratch *knock on wood* the new age screens are not ment to be used with a screen protector, and case just BLAH UGLY
I use a black silicon case and screen protector. I went nude for a while and I was just too nervous about it. The case is easy to take off, so if I let someone play with it, I often just take it off first so they can see just how nice the phone is. Something I like about the case is that the lens doesn't touch the surface when I lay it down - and I don't lay it on the screen, not that it would matter.
Another plus is that it doesn't slip out of my pocket like it used to (and any other phones I've had) when I'm active. Lots of pluses. Just too bad this particular one doesn't look that cool (not bad though). I'd really like to find a similar case that actually looks cool, maybe sporty.
I always use the kickstand and just prop up my phone. I am having no issues at all.
no case no nothing
it's gonna get wear and tear
but you're gonna get a new phone in 1 - 2 years anyway right
I always use a case to keep the phone in good condition for when I sell it after I'm done with it. It always gets top dollar since all the other used ones online being sold are junked up. But to each their own I suppose. Good luck!
No case, no screen protector. Looks like it did when I got it June 4th.
I just ordered this today: http://www.handhelditems.com/product_info.php?cPath=3524_5132_7769&products_id=135999
And it's cheap and it looks like it will do the job just fine with out adding much profile. I'd choose this over a naked alternative. Mine is partially naked, it has a screen protector and has been fine since.
I'll let you know how this case is when I get it.
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I always use a case to keep the phone in good condition for when I sell it after I'm done with it. It always gets top dollar since all the other used ones online being sold are junked up. But to each their own I suppose. Good luck!
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Same here. I always sell mine cause they still look new. I sold my Moment when I got my EVO and got $230 for it on eBay.
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I don't use a case and the camera is just fine, no scratches at all. I even dropped my phone on concrete like, the 3rd day I got it (missed my pocket lol) and the phone is completely fine, aside from a scratch on one of the corners that isn't noticeable unless you're looking for it. Speaking of which... I WANT A BUMPER CASE!! like this.. except black lol.
http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2010/06/11/pictures-of-iphone-4-bumper-cases-surface/
if anyone finds one let me know
I do not have any screen protector or case, and (until I get a dock) I set my phone down camera face down. I got it opening day and have no scratches on the screen, but there are tiny, minute scratches on the camera lens glass. Though they are contained within the black, non-lens area that reads "8.0 Megapixels". It almost seems like this was intentionally done, as when you set the phone down on the camera, it's at an angle and the viewable part of the lens doesn't seem to touch the table. Photos I take are unaffected. It seems harmless and I will keep going "naked" with mine. I'll try and take a close up pic of the affected area if anyone wants to see.
I've been really careful with the phone but got my first scratch on the lense yesterday. It must have happened in my pocket yet I only keep the phone by itself in there. The Evo is a beautiful phone but having that protruding lens is a retarded design.
The outer frame of my phone (the metallic plastic border-frame-thing) has a scratches and gauge on it now because I dropped it few weeks ago. I know it's just the appearance but at times I just find myself staring at it with discontent.
Here is the Link to the photo of it. (remove the spaces I'm a new user)
http : / / yfrog . com / n415092010127j
So I ask what would you do if you vibrant has that gauge/scratch?
Do you think it's fixable? maybe just sand it down to smooth it out or would it be make it worse?
Is it possible to get a replacement part?? I cannot find anything online but... I did see the non-working "T-MOBILE DUMMY SAMSUNG VIBRANT T959 DISPLAY PHONE" model on ebay.. do you think I can take the part from there? (haha, I think I do sound somewhat desperate)
oh and is there a case that just covers the perimeter of the phone leaving the back and front exposed? (I have a case for my phone already it but it makes the phone look pretty bulky)
Thank you everybody
I'd like to know this as well as I dropped mine on Friday and scratched all four corners! I thought about sanding it to give it a brushed look, but since it's plastic, I have a feeling it would look like crap.
Can you replace just that part?
Just put it in a case that covers the chrome bezel.
I had a similar issue when I had my blackberry 8900. The "chrome" around the sides started coming off, so I picked at it with my nail until it all came off. It was smooth black plastic underneath, and I'm willing to bet that's the case with the Vibrant.
You could tape off the parts you don't want scratched (screen, buttons, etc.) and use sandpaper on the chrome.
YES U CAN
GO TO
Global direct part.com and find ur phone
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YES U CAN
GO TO
Global direct part.com and find ur phone
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www.globaldirectparts.com
you mean that?
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/Samsung-T959-Front-Housing-p/smsng6085940.htm Right here bro
Just use a good quality liquid Wax polish used on automobiles.
I had a very similar issue as yours. I tried everything and finally came up with a solution. And it was the liquid Wax polish used on cars and bikes to make them shine. Just mask all the sensitive parts of the area of your phone in which you have scratches, then take the polish and rub it on the damaged area with optimum pressure with a clean cotton cloth (make sure a little heat is generated due to friction) . You might have to do it several time so, protect any other unwanted part.
Hope this helps ?
It's only been 1 week and the poor quality, flimsy back cover is showing wear and tear. It won't get into its allocated slot, and by the looks of it, seems that it became a fraction shorter.
It always seems click in better for me if I start at the bottom and work up.
TareX said:
It's only been 1 week and the poor quality, flimsy back cover is showing wear and tear. It won't get into its allocated slot, and by the looks of it, seems that it became a fraction shorter.
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You're not putting it in correctly. Gotta make sure the bottom tabs are before you start snapping the rest. I have more success getting the right tab in first and messing around till the other tab falls in and the bottom of the cover kisses the phone.
My grandma beat me down and took my nexus. Sent from a jitterbug with beats by dre.
SOLVED: Thanks to this guy from androidcentral:
"Originally Posted by DBVille: And, make SURE the hooks aren't bent up. I am betting the hooks have been bent up, at least on one side, from trying to push it closed. (dont ask how I know). Look very closely at the hooks. Put your finger nail under them and pry them up/apart from the back if they are too close to the cover to engage the clips on the phone. When done right, it just snaps on. But, you must get the bottom done first."
The hooks were bent up... fixed them with my nails. Now it snaps back on. Still pretty cheap though.
Or user error?
My grandma beat me down and took my nexus. Sent from a jitterbug with beats by dre.
you're not supposed to snap in the bottom hooks, you lock them in first, then snap in the ones rest...
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you're not supposed to snap in the bottom hooks, you lock them in first, then snap in the ones rest...
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+1 this is how I do it...common sense...
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Happen to me too the first week. I'm a pro now.
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God, the build quality and camera are a real disappointment on this phone. thanks for the tip on bending up the tabs.. worked for me..
never the OP's fault that he doesnt know how to put the back cover on.. always Samsung's fault for not making it tard proof.
Zepius said:
never the OP's fault he doesnt know how to put the back cover on.. always Samsung's fault for not making tard proof.
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Admittedly the back cover of the GN is one of the more complicated ones to put back onto the phone.
Do not force it on - if you do it right, it will go back on with just a little pressure. Like others said before you have to start at the bottom latches and work your way up from there. Note that the bottom latches are different from the others and do not snap in like the rest.
I'm extremely pleased with the build quality of this phone! A product feels VERY well build when you can't make it flex slightly or make the battery cover creak by squeasing the phone a certain way! Looking at you, HTC! The DInc, Thunderbolt, and Rezound that I've had all suffered from that. (Though I couldn't make the Thunderbolt flex)
And anytime you drop an HTC phone, first the battery door flies in the air, then the battery pops out -.-
Samsung on the other hand, the Nexus is VERY solid, battery door doesn't creak nor does the frame. No creaking sounds at all. I cannot flex the phone. What is it with people dissing Samsung for making plastic phones, what do you want them to do? Engineer a new compound? Geez
As so many have pointed out, the cover doesn't snap at the bottom; you start there by inserting the bottom hooks, then snap the sides and top.
In fact, I've found the easiest, most effective way to do it is laying out face down, insert the bottom hooks, then zip up both sides together with my thumbs, finishing with effortlessly snapping the top in.
As for the build, I couldn't disagree more strongly. The back design is brilliant. The phone overall is rock solid, and has solved the common back pop-off battery pop-out of most phones today.
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I was at a Verizon store last night. Picked up the phone from the display they had it in. The back cover fell off along with the security device. Does the cover have issues staying on? Would a case solve this issue?
Tisosview said:
I was at a Verizon store last night. Picked up the phone from the display they had it in. The back cover fell off along with the security device. Does the cover have issues staying on? Would a case solve this issue?
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There is no issue if you put it on correctly.
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Careful because our store model had a broken back cover since day one. Two sided take is holding it together at the moment.
Tisosview said:
I was at a Verizon store last night. Picked up the phone from the display they had it in. The back cover fell off along with the security device. Does the cover have issues staying on? Would a case solve this issue?
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Happens at all the stores. Some have ziptied the backcover back on . However, it really is a non issue. In the case of the store phones, the heavy security device that is glued onto the back cover, pulls very hard at the back cover and it creates issues. In reality, given that it is a completely flat piece of plastic that is sitting flush against your phone with no handles, there is no way to exert even remotely the same amount of outward forces on the back cover.
While removing and putting on the backcover doesn't feel great, the cover does a great job, helps keep the phone slim and light, and looks pretty damn good. The store model did put me off due to this same issue with the security device, but I have had absolutely no issues with the backcover, or the phone feeling flimsy (and I came to the GN from the OG!).
LOL the back cover is well built imo. Just because it is thin does not mean it is of poor construction.The people who are having problems just aren't bothering to learn how to put it on. You don't just snap the whole thing on. Put any backcover on incorrectly and you risk damaging it.
I remove my back cover regularly to swap SIMs and although I've had it since release day not only does it look the same as it did when I bought it but it functions perfectly too (stays on nice and tight).
TLDR; If your tabs are bent you're doing it wrong. Don't blame design for your lack of intelligence.
Thank you for the replies. It is reassuring.
I found it funny that the security really didn't work for this device. Since the alarm didn't go off when the back fell off.
Bottom tabs get bent up
I've had my GN for a little over a week. The problem that I have, and I assume the others have, is that the tabs at the bottom get bent up so that they can't hook in.
I bent them down with my fingernail so that they are horizontal again, and it clicked in fine.
My concern is that this is already a problem after a week, and plastic can only take so much bending and fatigue before it totally breaks, which will eventually occur. I would imagine that at least some people who have had their GNs since launch have already experienced this.
Frankly, I think this is a manufacturing issue that Samsung should ultimately address.