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So I was wondering if anyone could lie out a few points of the differences or advantages between these 2 versions?
I've noticed a lot of GB ROM's are slower and a bit more "heavy" but that may just be due to them just coming out and still having a lot of work to be done with them to optimize them for speed and battery life.
As of now I'm perfectly happy with Froyo and see no reason to switch, but still would like to know what advantages Gingerbread brings to the table.
You need to try cm7.
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With Gingerbread your screen has that awesome on/off animation.
I know gingerbread is supposed to have built-in VOIP calling with Google Voice. Does that work with CM7? If that did, I could totally reduce my calling plan!
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With Gingerbread your screen has that awesome on/off animation.
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and that's it? Lol
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and that's it? Lol
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hah agreed, I guess there isn't a whole lot significant about the gingerbread release, I may be sticking with Froyo for a while if that's the case.
Also I've actually tried out CM7 before (several weeks ago) when it was very first released.
The screen on/off was pretty cool for the first day or so, but it started to bug me after a while and I kinda wished there was a way to disable it.
The VOIP calling with google voice has been available on the incredible for a while now, or at least I thought it had been. I never used it because of what a pain it is to switch back off of google voice, not to mention you are required to have a 3G connection or else you're out of luck and your phone is useless.
There are a lot of optimizations made to the whole android framework form what I gathered reading the android dev blog. They were targetting UI responsiveness which is definitely an issue in android as compared to iOS. I know that all of that is definitely better from my brief play with CM7 but I think it still has a long way to go to be as good as I want it to be. I also kind of like the orange glow that appears when you scroll lists, its a subtle but nice improvement.
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hah agreed, I guess there isn't a whole lot significant about the gingerbread release, I may be sticking with Froyo for a while if that's the case.
Also I've actually tried out CM7 before (several weeks ago) when it was very first released.
The screen on/off was pretty cool for the first day or so, but it started to bug me after a while and I kinda wished there was a way to disable it.
The VOIP calling with google voice has been available on the incredible for a while now, or at least I thought it had been. I never used it because of what a pain it is to switch back off of google voice, not to mention you are required to have a 3G connection or else you're out of luck and your phone is useless.
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I'm not sure how GB roms could feel heavier/slower, especially with CM7. I'd agree with you if you were talking about sense because its a bit bloated.
I'd suggest try CM7 again, RC2 with Chad's latest 37.2 kernel. Give it time to sync up with Google then play around with it. I'm sure you wont be disappointed. Unless you are a super sense fan
P.S. you can turn off the screen animation in CM settings. In the display menu.
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GB is more efficient. I haven't heard that it is slower from anyone except you.
To me Gingerbread tastes better than Froyo
Ill second that
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GB is more efficient. I haven't heard that it is slower from anyone except you.
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Alright I guess I'll be giving CM7 another go, cheers for the feedback.
Only reason why I haven't tried CM7 is no 720p recording, not complaining just stating. Maybe im being a stickler but I like to have all options on the roms I run.
I honestly have noticed any differences in speed or responsiveness. I have tried a few gingerbread roms not sure if its because they are in early stages or not, but so far it doesn't live up to the hype in my book.
If I am posting this, I'm probably pooping.
Is it just me or does CM7 have crazy good sound quality. And the bass is extremely good as well, used dsp manager to boost base and it sounds as close as I have heard to bose (but still not as good as the great bose)
There are some small things that have bothered me with Gingerbread... for example I miss the sense Camera.apk, and of course 720p. But I went back to things such as Sense and MIUI, and I couldn't last 24 hours on them. I was originally between Evervolv and OMGB... then I stuck with OMFGB. CM7 RC2.5 is what I'm running now, and may I say it's pretty amazing. But I am gonna have to try out the new OMGB 1.1.0 build tomorrow though
I guess it's just the overall feel of Gingerbread. Oh, and optimization and web browsing is quite a bit faster I have noticed.'
My $0.02 worth.
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Is it just me or does CM7 have crazy good sound quality. And the bass is extremely good as well, used dsp manager to boost base and it sounds as close as I have heard to bose (but still not as good as the great bose)
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Are you saying the built in phone speaker sounds like BOSE? That I would believe
Anyway is the sound quality via BT and headphone jack actually better? This would be something that might interest me.
I found CM7 to work very well, even better than SkyRaider IMHO, however I LOVE what JuiceDefender does for my battery - and it's not compatible with Gingerbread. As soon as that is released, I will have a semi-tough descision to make.
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Just switched to CM7 from warm Z and loving it (Pandora sounded like garbage). Very responsive to say the least, GB seems to be quite a treat.
BT tends to leave out a lot of bass, but you can help correct it by using DSP manager.
The kernel plays a bit part in this area as well, chad's incredikernel has some audio boosts (especially for the earpiece) that I like. I know the stock earpiece volume was formerly way too low in crowds or even moderately loud situations.
Hey guys i'm planning to buy motorola defy in next month. As i've to stick to this phone for 3 years i want to ask you some questions or clear my doubt. 1. Will this phone get android 2.2? 2. If I flashed with custom rom of 2.2 will adobe flash 10.1 work on it? 3. Is flashing this phone difficult or easy? 4. What about its sound quality? Is it better than galaxy 3 or nokia 5800xm? 5. Will HD games work on this device?
1,2,5: yes
3: easy
4: don't know, didn't have those phones to test the Defy against
There are a few 2.2 leaked ROMs, I'm using one myself and flash is running smoothly. The official update will be released in the second half of this month
Sound quality is good. The Defy is in every respect technically a high-end phone, comparable to Galaxy s i9000, HTC Desire HD.
Galaxy 3 is rather medium-class.
The only negative points IMO are that the screen is very reflective in sunlight and the camera could be better.
And battery performance is VERY unpredictable!!
You mean battery life not good?
Battery life is good comparing to other android phones. It is 2~3 days for normal use.
yes, the screen is a bit reflective, but if you set it bright enough, it's very nice! and battery performance is quite good, i get about 2 days with some gaming and 3G/wifi constantly on! the only thing i'm missing from this phone is full multitouch, as it has only two point mt, which can be disturbing in some games (like tap tap revenge). otherwise it's a very good phone, with great overclock/undervolt potential!
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questions regarding DEFY
I heard that defy bootloader is locked hence custom rom is not possible for defy then how come custom roms are available in dev thread?
They're not true custom ROMs, they're just standard ones with some of the stock apps removed and others pre-loaded.
The bootloader is locked and that's why, for example, CyanogenMod isn't available for the Defy or Gingerbread.
Thank's Guys!
I'll buy a defy tomorrow, and this answers helped me to make my choice (principally
the battery time).
you wont go far wrong with this phone. performance/price wise, i think this is one of the best in the market right now
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you wont go far wrong with this phone. performance/price wise, i think this is one of the best in the market right now
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i agree. great device. the phone is basically a screen and feels light like a dummy phone!
Its one of the smallest android phones with a decent screen.
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My defy has arrived
I'm very excited with the cel. Very satisfying.
time to root and install some custom ROMS!!
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They're not true custom ROMs, they're just standard ones with some of the stock apps removed and others pre-loaded.
The bootloader is locked and that's why, for example, CyanogenMod isn't available for the Defy or Gingerbread.
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there is someone with cynogenmod 7 for defy in dev thread, how could it be possible then...really confused about defys potential & ability for custom roms..
One question: what is the last oficial android version? Here in brazil, the last available is 2.1...
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2.2 is already out, ans cm7 using 2.3 will probably get a final stable release version soon
I'm curently running CM7(beta 3) and it's doing pretty well.
Though there are still some things to be fixed, it is definitely an increase of performance and battery life, and will be worth of updating once it is fully stable.
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I heard that defy bootloader is locked hence custom rom is not possible for defy then how come custom roms are available in dev thread?
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Most of'em are, as abovesaid, pretty much customized standart ROMs.
However, 2nd Init "hack" was recently intoruced, which kinda bypasses locked bootloader. Hence CM7 goodness.
At least you don't have to worry a single bit using DEFy in the rain
Anyone gone back to stock on their HOX?
I have tried several Roms on mine & I have to be honest, I really don't see a big difference in either speed or functionality. Other than being able to back up.
Don't get me wrong I'm not dissing anyone's rom, I just feel the HOX is not what I thought it would be, It's juddery & jerky & no cooked rom has fixed that.
Hopefully the next update with fix this, if not the HOX could be on it's bike....
Looking like just me, eh
I switched back to stock too. Looking forward to CM10 or AOSP Jelly Bean ROM.
I know what you mean. I tried a number of sense based ROMs hoping that the devs would have corrected HTC faux pas' but to no avail..multitasking was still broken, and the launcher bugged the hell out of me with its constant re-draws and 30 odd second loading time. I have since switched to a cyanogen ROM hoping that completely eliminating sense would solve the performance issues but no... although the ROM i am runing now (CM9) is in general smoother and less juttery than stock and other sense ROMS, the browser performance is still woeful regardless of what app I use and I'm still seeing redraws.. not to mention my signal is ridiculously variable - it will go from 3 bars to none without me even moving the phone's position in the slightest (but better than stock where it would fail to reconnect if signal was lost). I would have sold this phone already and replaced it with an S3 if my hands weren't tied (staff handset). I would have overlooked the limitations such as sd card storage, non-removable battery etc. if the performance of the phone otherwise was awesome but it's not, despite having a quad core processor. I hoping jelly bean drastically improves performance otherwise I will be looking to replace this phone with an S3.
Never going back to stock if I can help it. Currently running cm9 and loving it, why would I go back to stock. Battery sucks on stock.
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I've been back to stock after I bricked my phone and used an RUU. I found that the stock phone itself was very slow compared to running a ROM. The battery life on stock also was very short compared to using a ROM. The lag you may get is on every sence ROM. Maybe install the smooth Rosie mod?
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The mistake I made was buying the S3.
Apart from the UI, the S3 better than the HOX in everything I have asked to do.
It's just sat on the side gathering dust now :crying:
Back to Stock
my phone was messing up after trying to go back to cleanrom 4.1 from cyanogenmod 9 alpha 5 and it went to bootloop, so i got it out of it and ran the ruu to go back to stock, now that it is there I can't seem to use the messaging app, along with the phone or contacts apps. Everytime i try to click one it will just crash almost immediately, i even tried re-rooting, unlock, and flashed a new rom, still wont work right. I need help please
Guys keep your stock Rom backed up on ce mod for jb coming up, but you should really try the miui for one x, just go to www.onexroot.com and click on the Roma tab and miui will be there. It is a mix of IPs and touchwiz but has some issues with root permissions, other than that it is fine though and I love it. It also has monthly updates adding new features and converting more of it to English, almost everything is now, give it a whirl, I'm sure you will love it, just remeberbtk update it through the in Rom updater
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Anyone gone back to stock on their HOX?
I have tried several Roms on mine & I have to be honest, I really don't see a big difference in either speed or functionality. Other than being able to back up.
Don't get me wrong I'm not dissing anyone's rom, I just feel the HOX is not what I thought it would be, It's juddery & jerky & no cooked rom has fixed that.
Hopefully the next update with fix this, if not the HOX could be on it's bike....
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i think that mod roms based on 2.05 test are faster and have some more nice functions like the setting of multitasking button as menu button (that remove 3dots ics menu)....i think that the only competitors of HOX now is the sgs3 but i will never change an htc for a samsung fake-phone-plastic design. :silly:
not every HOX has built with the same quality I guess. Mine with stock should be as good as other customize ROM HOX in their best state. If you think back to stock will be better for your HOX, just try and you will see the differences.
This thread made my eyes bleed.
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Cancer... Once your in a custom rom there is no point reverting to stock unless you are to use your warranty.
Don't effin worry about updates rom/kernel devs update their stuff when new bases/firmwares hit the device. You'd just need to wait a few days for that update.
on xda for android and mistyping like a boss
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i think that mod roms based on 2.05 test are faster and have some more nice functions like the setting of multitasking button as menu button (that remove 3dots ics menu)....i think that the only competitors of HOX now is the sgs3 but i will never change an htc for a samsung fake-phone-plastic design. :silly:
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Huh?
I have both & the Samsung is plastic but it still feels very premium.
I was talking about how the phone performs, not the build quality - Btw my HOX is faultless hardware wise
Yeah...Just like the title says.
Because i tried custom roms now but i found that the official rom had the best performance so i don't think that it's worth using a custom rom now.
Unless you guys can recomend a good rom with the same performance or better?
And will there be an official CM? (because i read somewhere that there were some issues with the exynos cpu documentation)
My brother said that Official CM is being merged in a few days.
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Yeah...Just like the title says.
Because i tried custom roms now but i found that the official rom had the best performance so i don't think that it's worth using a custom rom now.
Unless you guys can recomend a good rom with the same performance or better?
And will there be an official CM? (because i read somewhere that there were some issues with the exynos cpu documentation)
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I'm on the latest PA nightly built, haven't run any benchmarks yet, but it seems to me that performance on games it actually a little bit better (at least definitely on the new nfs game). And there's some big update coming kernel/drivers wise that will increase it noticeably (so I've read).
Cheers.
You can wait for them quietly you shouldnt be expecting **** on here thats the problem with this site
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I'm on the latest PA nightly built, haven't run any benchmarks yet, but it seems to me that performance on games it actually a little bit better (at least definitely on the new nfs game). And there's some big update coming kernel/drivers wise that will increase it noticeably (so I've read).
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Did you experience any audio problems or with the camera because that is on the bug list now... I really like PA it was my primary rom on my HTC Sensation XE. I am a heavy camera user and i skype a lot on my phone soooo yeah Thanks anyway
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You can wait for them quietly you shouldnt be expecting **** on here thats the problem with this site
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A little hostile there don't you think? There's absolutely no harm in asking. It's people like you which diminish the true nature of XDA.
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Did you experience any audio problems or with the camera because that is on the bug list now... I really like PA it was my primary rom on my HTC Sensation XE. I am a heavy camera user and i skype a lot on my phone soooo yeah Thanks anyway
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Mmm, the camera is a kernel problem, there's a patch to solve it, and audio wise, well, the routing of sound from the mic of an external BT headset is not working, that's a known issue, and I'm having of shuttering audio when I listen to music with the BT headset I [email protected], not but not on the car, so I guess there's something going on with the emitting power that makes small receivers struggle keeping up with the signal.
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Mmm, the camera is a kernel problem, there's a patch to solve it, and audio wise, well, the routing of sound from the mic of an external BT headset is not working, that's a known issue, and I'm having of shuttering audio when I listen to music with the BT headset I [email protected], not but not on the car, so I guess there's something going on with the emitting power that makes small receivers struggle keeping up with the signal.
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Where can I find this patch?
What bugs me the most about these threads, is the fact that many users obviously don`t know how to use the search buttton anymore or are just too damn lazy to do so. Common sense also seems a problem, as you could have known 4.2 for the Note 2 will be released first quarter 2013. After the first official has been released develeopment will start and the CM team wil start right after the scource codes are beeing released.
So I'm wondering if I should root/s-off and change from Boomsound to Harman Kardon since I heard HK supposedly have higher sound quality.
I don't use Boomsound when using headphones since I use a pair of ATH-M50 I just think it make the sound worse.
However, I would like to know if HK have better sound driver and quality, even with Clari-Fi or LiveStage turned off?
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So I'm wondering if I should root/s-off and change from Boomsound to Harman Kardon since I heard HK supposedly have higher sound quality.
I don't use Boomsound when using headphones since I use a pair of ATH-M50 I just think it make the sound worse.
However, I would like to know if HK have better sound driver and quality, even with Clari-Fi or LiveStage turned off?
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Personally I think Boomsound sounds better. Boomsound (to me) makes the instrumentals sound better where as H/K makes the vocals sound better. How I formed this opinion is via rap, specifically Eminem. The base and other instrumentals sounded far better on BS but with H/K vocals were more clear. Either way both are quite good but expect a moment of "what the f?" if you switch to H/K, the difference for me made me think H/K sucked but after a bit of using it I adapted and it didn't sound as bad...that is me though, maybe not the same for you.
Also root/S-OFF is definitely worth it, go for it!
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Personally I think Boomsound sounds better. Boomsound (to me) makes the instrumentals sound better where as H/K makes the vocals sound better. How I formed this opinion is via rap, specifically Eminem. The base and other instrumentals sounded far better on BS but with H/K vocals were more clear. Either way both are quite good but expect a moment of "what the f?" if you switch to H/K, the difference for me made me think H/K sucked but after a bit of using it I adapted and it didn't sound as bad...that is me though, maybe not the same for you.
Also root/S-OFF is definitely worth it, go for it!
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I found that somewhat true and false at the same time.. Depends on musical taste and the way you like your music via a EQ.. Personally I prefer H/K with viper audio. Of course that's from a metal head. I listen to a lot of melodic death metal which has different progressions and incorporates almost every sound you could possibly make. Its all a personal preference, depends on musical taste, the way you prefer EQ's and all that good jazz.
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I prefer HK... Boomsound seems to somewhat "muffle" the sound. All my music is 320kbps and they seem to lose clarity on Boomsound. HK > Nothing > Boomsound. Make sure to disable LiveStage if you use HK... It just sucks.
I would take hk anyday. Still it's down to personal preference. So I can't give much comment about it. Boom sound u would get tons of bass. Hk you would get dramatically drop in bass but have better clarity. Which I think using speaker with hk isn't something you would notice much. But with earphone it does sound better for me.
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I'm actually not a fan of either, though Boomsound does make a difference with the internal speakers. (which is probably why you can't disable it) However, my biggest gripe with the H/K mod is that it is really a hack, not a mod. It will very likely quit working if you upgrade to Android L until someone comes up with a new procedure and set of files after the update, and unless you are very careful, the odds of bricking your device are high. Also, since it will definitely kill OTA updates, you will have to undo it to get the update. Just not worth it IMO.
However, I tend to not use the EQ very much unless the source material really needs it. I typically run with a flat EQ curve, or, if anything, maybe a slight treble boost.
The sad part is that CyanogenMod's DSP manager does most of what the H/K mod does, only better and without hacks. It's too bad you have to give up Sense to run it...
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I'm actually not a fan of either, though Boomsound does make a difference with the internal speakers. (which is probably why you can't disable it) However, my biggest gripe with the H/K mod is that it is really a hack, not a mod. It will very likely quit working if you upgrade to Android L until someone comes up with a new procedure and set of files after the update, and unless you are very careful, the odds of bricking your device are high. Also, since it will definitely kill OTA updates, you will have to undo it to get the update. Just not worth it IMO.
However, I tend to not use the EQ very much unless the source material really needs it. I typically run with a flat EQ curve, or, if anything, maybe a slight treble boost.
The sad part is that CyanogenMod's DSP manager does most of what the H/K mod does, only better and without hacks. It's too bad you have to give up Sense to run it...
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The H/K is just replacing the main ADSP with a modified version. If you're really running stock, have a recovery, then get H/K you're better off making a nandroid, flashing a stock based ROM and running it.. If you REALLY want an update you shouldn't have modded your phone and flashed a recovery to begin with. Whenever you flash a ROM again it replaces it with boom sound. With the update to L... How do you think we got H/K in the first place? Scolser I think the name is, and baadnewz are great devs and can more than likely come up with H/K again for L.
With you really want DSP on something besides cyanogenmod, just run V4A. It has a LOT more options.
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The H/K is just replacing the main ADSP with a modified version. If you're really running stock, have a recovery, then get H/K you're better off making a nandroid, flashing a stock based ROM and running it.. If you REALLY want an update you shouldn't have modded your phone and flashed a recovery to begin with. Whenever you flash a ROM again it replaces it with boom sound. With the update to L... How do you think we got H/K in the first place? Scolser I think the name is, and baadnewz are great devs and can more than likely come up with H/K again for L.
With you really want DSP on something besides cyanogenmod, just run V4A. It has a LOT more options.
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I myself like when the sound is neutral. I never use Boomsound when listening with headphones.
My question was if the HK version gives better sound quality, even if I don't use clear-fi and live stage.(I also never use EQ)
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The H/K is just replacing the main ADSP with a modified version. If you're really running stock, have a recovery, then get H/K you're better off making a nandroid, flashing a stock based ROM and running it.. If you REALLY want an update you shouldn't have modded your phone and flashed a recovery to begin with. Whenever you flash a ROM again it replaces it with boom sound. With the update to L... How do you think we got H/K in the first place? Scolser I think the name is, and baadnewz are great devs and can more than likely come up with H/K again for L.
With you really want DSP on something besides cyanogenmod, just run V4A. It has a LOT more options.
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I wasn't trying to insult anyone, and yes, I know how to install it. I also know how to revert back to the point where I can get OTA updates. I wouldn't be here if I had a problem with flashing software on my phone.
My point was that I personally didn't feel like the juice was worth the squeeze. It changes the audio, and maybe for some source material it works out, but overall I just didn't get the impression it was that great.
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I myself like when the sound is neutral. I never use Boomsound when listening with headphones.
My question was if the HK version gives better sound quality, even if I don't use clear-fi and live stage.(I also never use EQ)
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It varies per song/artists/how it was produced. Like when I kick in some Amon Amarth, tool, or heaven shall burn and turn on live stage it gives a good sound. But then I turn it on with my pink floyd, or deftones, it produces an okay sound (still always have clear-fi on). For each different song/artist/album I change back and forth. I usually always use Clear-fi, as it really does return a clear and more pure sound in my opinion.
I also noted that the HK "Clari-fi" option's effectiveness seemed to vary widely based on what you were playing. With some of my ambient electronica, and similar instrumental tracks. it really helped give it a bit more of a clean sound. With other music, like chillout lounge stuff, it varied widely, with some tracks sounding significantly worse, some much better, and some just "different". Jazz didn't really improve much at all, while rock sounded marginally better with boomsound and a touch weaker on HK.
Also, and this was a bit weird, I had some tracks that sounded like they had static in them (crackling), which went away if I turned live-stage on (or turned off the HK mod). However, the very next track wouldn't have any of that. It's probably a fault in the MP3 encoding that the DSP was accentuating, but it was kind of odd.
At any rate, I opted to go back to stock as a result. Boomsound generally never made anything sound worse, so it was safe to leave it on and not muck with it no matter what was in the playlist.
Boomsound . Boom.
"Sweep The Leg"
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The H/K is just replacing the main ADSP with a modified version. If you're really running stock, have a recovery, then get H/K you're better off making a nandroid, flashing a stock based ROM and running it.. If you REALLY want an update you shouldn't have modded your phone and flashed a recovery to begin with. Whenever you flash a ROM again it replaces it with boom sound. With the update to L... How do you think we got H/K in the first place? Scolser I think the name is, and baadnewz are great devs and can more than likely come up with H/K again for L.
With you really want DSP on something besides cyanogenmod, just run V4A. It has a LOT more options.
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I'd take it a step further. Do you think all the folks running custom roms on here have stopped updating their devices? There are ways to get the firmware updates, so that shouldn't be a factor.
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I'd take it a step further. Do you think all the folks running custom roms on here have stopped updating their devices? There are ways to get the firmware updates, so that shouldn't be a factor.
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Repeat: My point was that, IMO, the mod wasn't worth the effort or the mess, and that if you weren't an experienced user, I'd suggest staying away from it. Largely because there isn't an "easy" way to switch if you don't like it (Yes, I know it's possible, because I've done it), and the risks are somewhat high if you don't know what you are doing. (brick potential)
It's sort of like running through a mine field to get a box of stale twinkies. However, that's just my opinion, as I didn't care for the effect at all.
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Repeat: My point was that, IMO, the mod wasn't worth the effort or the mess, and that if you weren't an experienced user, I'd suggest staying away from it. Largely because there isn't an "easy" way to switch if you don't like it (Yes, I know it's possible, because I've done it), and the risks are somewhat high if you don't know what you are doing. (brick potential)
It's sort of like running through a mine field to get a box of stale twinkies. However, that's just my opinion, as I didn't care for the effect at all.
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Just a question. When was the last time you ran it? Were you at the point where you had to flash it through fastboot/RUU mode? Or the one where you can just flash through recovery? This isn't being mean, I was just wondering. Because the sound from the fastboot/RUU mode to the recovery one, sound changed tremendously!
pball52998 said:
Just a question. When was the last time you ran it? Were you at the point where you had to flash it through fastboot/RUU mode? Or the one where you can just flash through recovery? This isn't being mean, I was just wondering. Because the sound from the fastboot/RUU mode to the recovery one, sound changed tremendously!
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Both.
However, just to be fair, I tried it again last night using the latest recovery zip. Within minutes, I noticed the artifacts that made me dislike it the first time. Some of my favorite tracks have a lot of crackling in them when I turn on the Clari-fi option. Turning off the enhancement cleared it up always, and turning on Livestage cleared it up for some. I kind of doubt a bad flash, as it behaved the exact same way.
Unfortunately, the mix I typically play the most on the daily commute turned out to be one of the worst in terms of the strange static. It was completely unlistenable. Now, it could just be that there is something in the way those files were encoded that makes them react poorly to further DSP processing, or something else, but it was clearly audible. However, I will admit that for some tracks, it did improve the sound a fair deal.
jshamlet said:
Both.
However, just to be fair, I tried it again last night using the latest recovery zip. Within minutes, I noticed the artifacts that made me dislike it the first time. Some of my favorite tracks have a lot of crackling in them when I turn on the Clari-fi option. Turning off the enhancement cleared it up always, and turning on Livestage cleared it up for some. I kind of doubt a bad flash, as it behaved the exact same way.
Unfortunately, the mix I typically play the most on the daily commute turned out to be one of the worst in terms of the strange static. It was completely unlistenable. Now, it could just be that there is something in the way those files were encoded that makes them react poorly to further DSP processing, or something else, but it was clearly audible. However, I will admit that for some tracks, it did improve the sound a fair deal.
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I see where you're coming from.
I think it really boils down to what exactly you like in terms of music. I think it will be drastically different for everyone. I use both V4A and H/K at the same time. With the mix, when I don't like how songs sound, I go into V4A and change the EQ, bass, and clarity. To each man, his own personal preference.
Sent from my HTC One M8 Running Paranoid Android. S-OFF.
pball52998 said:
I found that somewhat true and false at the same time.. Depends on musical taste and the way you like your music via a EQ.. Personally I prefer H/K with viper audio. Of course that's from a metal head. I listen to a lot of melodic death metal which has different progressions and incorporates almost every sound you could possibly make. Its all a personal preference, depends on musical taste, the way you prefer EQ's and all that good jazz.
Sent from my HTC One M8 Running Liquid Smooth. S-OFF.
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Just wanted to ask
I have installed ViperM8 rom on my device and I tried to HK mod my deivce ( failed due to S-OFF )
Anyway, Does ViperoneM8 have HK pre-installed ?
I saw an option but it just shows the setting
MJ999 said:
Just wanted to ask
I have installed ViperM8 rom on my device and I tried to HK mod my deivce ( failed due to S-OFF )
Anyway, Does ViperoneM8 have HK pre-installed ?
I saw an option but it just shows the setting
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You should just be able to flash viper, then flash the H/K mod through recovery.
pball52998 said:
You should just be able to flash viper, then flash the H/K mod through recovery.
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What ?
I am now on ViperRom right now, I flashed the S-On H/K mod but it didn't work then I found that the phone needs to be S-OFF to flash the ADSP file
So my question is is there any other way ?
Thanks