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Advantages of Gingerbread over Froyo?

So I was wondering if anyone could lie out a few points of the differences or advantages between these 2 versions?
I've noticed a lot of GB ROM's are slower and a bit more "heavy" but that may just be due to them just coming out and still having a lot of work to be done with them to optimize them for speed and battery life.
As of now I'm perfectly happy with Froyo and see no reason to switch, but still would like to know what advantages Gingerbread brings to the table.

You need to try cm7.
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With Gingerbread your screen has that awesome on/off animation.

I know gingerbread is supposed to have built-in VOIP calling with Google Voice. Does that work with CM7? If that did, I could totally reduce my calling plan!

dpwhitty11 said:
With Gingerbread your screen has that awesome on/off animation.
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and that's it? Lol

Snakehn said:
and that's it? Lol
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hah agreed, I guess there isn't a whole lot significant about the gingerbread release, I may be sticking with Froyo for a while if that's the case.
Also I've actually tried out CM7 before (several weeks ago) when it was very first released.
The screen on/off was pretty cool for the first day or so, but it started to bug me after a while and I kinda wished there was a way to disable it.
The VOIP calling with google voice has been available on the incredible for a while now, or at least I thought it had been. I never used it because of what a pain it is to switch back off of google voice, not to mention you are required to have a 3G connection or else you're out of luck and your phone is useless.

There are a lot of optimizations made to the whole android framework form what I gathered reading the android dev blog. They were targetting UI responsiveness which is definitely an issue in android as compared to iOS. I know that all of that is definitely better from my brief play with CM7 but I think it still has a long way to go to be as good as I want it to be. I also kind of like the orange glow that appears when you scroll lists, its a subtle but nice improvement.

POQbum said:
hah agreed, I guess there isn't a whole lot significant about the gingerbread release, I may be sticking with Froyo for a while if that's the case.
Also I've actually tried out CM7 before (several weeks ago) when it was very first released.
The screen on/off was pretty cool for the first day or so, but it started to bug me after a while and I kinda wished there was a way to disable it.
The VOIP calling with google voice has been available on the incredible for a while now, or at least I thought it had been. I never used it because of what a pain it is to switch back off of google voice, not to mention you are required to have a 3G connection or else you're out of luck and your phone is useless.
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I'm not sure how GB roms could feel heavier/slower, especially with CM7. I'd agree with you if you were talking about sense because its a bit bloated.
I'd suggest try CM7 again, RC2 with Chad's latest 37.2 kernel. Give it time to sync up with Google then play around with it. I'm sure you wont be disappointed. Unless you are a super sense fan
P.S. you can turn off the screen animation in CM settings. In the display menu.
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GB is more efficient. I haven't heard that it is slower from anyone except you.

To me Gingerbread tastes better than Froyo

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lehalter said:
GB is more efficient. I haven't heard that it is slower from anyone except you.
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Alright I guess I'll be giving CM7 another go, cheers for the feedback.

Only reason why I haven't tried CM7 is no 720p recording, not complaining just stating. Maybe im being a stickler but I like to have all options on the roms I run.

I honestly have noticed any differences in speed or responsiveness. I have tried a few gingerbread roms not sure if its because they are in early stages or not, but so far it doesn't live up to the hype in my book.
If I am posting this, I'm probably pooping.

Is it just me or does CM7 have crazy good sound quality. And the bass is extremely good as well, used dsp manager to boost base and it sounds as close as I have heard to bose (but still not as good as the great bose)

There are some small things that have bothered me with Gingerbread... for example I miss the sense Camera.apk, and of course 720p. But I went back to things such as Sense and MIUI, and I couldn't last 24 hours on them. I was originally between Evervolv and OMGB... then I stuck with OMFGB. CM7 RC2.5 is what I'm running now, and may I say it's pretty amazing. But I am gonna have to try out the new OMGB 1.1.0 build tomorrow though
I guess it's just the overall feel of Gingerbread. Oh, and optimization and web browsing is quite a bit faster I have noticed.'
My $0.02 worth.

titans808 said:
Is it just me or does CM7 have crazy good sound quality. And the bass is extremely good as well, used dsp manager to boost base and it sounds as close as I have heard to bose (but still not as good as the great bose)
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Are you saying the built in phone speaker sounds like BOSE? That I would believe
Anyway is the sound quality via BT and headphone jack actually better? This would be something that might interest me.

I found CM7 to work very well, even better than SkyRaider IMHO, however I LOVE what JuiceDefender does for my battery - and it's not compatible with Gingerbread. As soon as that is released, I will have a semi-tough descision to make.
Scott

Just switched to CM7 from warm Z and loving it (Pandora sounded like garbage). Very responsive to say the least, GB seems to be quite a treat.

BT tends to leave out a lot of bass, but you can help correct it by using DSP manager.
The kernel plays a bit part in this area as well, chad's incredikernel has some audio boosts (especially for the earpiece) that I like. I know the stock earpiece volume was formerly way too low in crowds or even moderately loud situations.

[Q] Google Goggles Camera Bug (1.8.1)

Hey there guys, I've been using XDA-Developers for a long time, it certainly is the #1 source of info for us android users and modders. Finally registered myself in the hopes I can get some help with an issue I'm having atm. While using Google Goggles 1.8.1 in Snapshot mode the camera will be all messed up showing a greenish deformed image, as a matter of fact looks like a thermal camera or something similar. If I press the button to take the snapshot, strangely it works fine, if I go into continuous mode it doesn't have the same problem, works fine.
I'm using the Beta 14 of Cyanogenmod 9.
The camera application works perfectly, just google goggles is messed up for some reason.
Anybody ever seen this problem? Thanks in advance.

switch to a gingerbread rom and your problem will be gone
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demkantor said:
switch to a gingerbread rom and your problem will be gone
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Hi, thanks for the fast response. I'll certainly try that, did you have that experience too or is it just a guess since I'm using a Beta ROM? Thanks again.

there isnt and may never be an official ics rom for the vision, this means the developers have not had the proper drivers for the camera so it is hacked together on all ics roms. these roms have come a long way over the past six months or so but any app using the camera may never work 100%
the best ics roms for the g2/dz (in my opinion) are elitemod and mimicry, you can try one of those and see if google goggles works fine or just move down to 2.3x

demkantor said:
there isnt and may never be an official ics rom for the vision, this means the developers have not had the proper drivers for the camera so it is hacked together on all ics roms. these roms have come a long way over the past six months or so but any app using the camera may never work 100%
the best ics roms for the g2/dz (in my opinion) are elitemod and mimicry, you can try one of those and see if google goggles works fine or just move down to 2.3x
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I hope that's not 100% accurate, cause I don't see why the G2/DZ couldn't have an official ICS release, I mean, it's hardware can support it perfectly so what would be the reason? Anyway, I'll revert later to 2.3x and see how Google Goggles handles, but even if it works fine I'll get back to the latest beta of Cyanogenmod 9, everything's been working perfectly so far, aside from this Google Goggles problem, and if it never gets solved I can still live with that, I usually don't even use it, just wondered why it wasn't working as it should. But thanks for the info so far.

Dimitri Vladkov said:
I hope that's not 100% accurate, cause I don't see why the G2/DZ couldn't have an official ICS release, I mean, it's hardware can support it perfectly so what would be the reason? Anyway, I'll revert later to 2.3x and see how Google Goggles handles, but even if it works fine I'll get back to the latest beta of Cyanogenmod 9, everything's been working perfectly so far, aside from this Google Goggles problem, and if it never gets solved I can still live with that, I usually don't even use it, just wondered why it wasn't working as it should. But thanks for the info so far.
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it is sad but true, there may be loads of reasons for no official update but the main one may simply be htc has decided they want us to move to a newer phone, even if hardware supports the latest firmware they will must feel if they keep supporting old phones people will not buy their new ones. even if this is an incorrect assumption the g2/dz (in my opinion) still is the best phone to date so I wouldn't update anyhow.
like I said have fun with gingerbread for a while and then consider elitemod ics or mimicry, those are the only two ics roms that I like. but right now I'm back to cm7 for a while, I too like a working camera, and by working I mean to the quality gingerbread cameras work on the vision.
oh and I like your name
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demkantor said:
it is sad but true, there may be loads of reasons for no official update but the main one may simply be htc has decided they want us to move to a newer phone, even if hardware supports the latest firmware they will must feel if they keep supporting old phones people will not buy their new ones. even if this is an incorrect assumption the g2/dz (in my opinion) still is the best phone to date so I wouldn't update anyhow.
like I said have fun with gingerbread for a while and then consider elitemod ics or mimicry, those are the only two ics roms that I like. but right now I'm back to cm7 for a while, I too like a working camera, and by working I mean to the quality gingerbread cameras work on the vision.
oh and I like your name
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You're right, and I totally agree, I won't update my G2/DZ anytime soon, it still serves me more than well and I love the physical keyboard. Some people don't care about it, but I like to run some emulators, genesis, snes and the likes and to play using the physical keyboard instead of touching the screen is a whole different world. Also, I don't see the point of having a big screen latest smartphone when you lose like half the screen when you have to type cause of the virtual keyboard. Who knows, if HTC ever releases in the future a Desire Z 2 maintaining everything that's great about the G2/DZ but upgrading to the latest hardware, I might buy it. Oh, and thanks for the compliment.

have a friend with the same name is all, have fun flashing new roms!
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demkantor said:
it is sad but true, there may be loads of reasons for no official update but the main one may simply be htc has decided they want us to move to a newer phone, even if hardware supports the latest firmware they will must feel if they keep supporting old phones people will not buy their new ones.
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QFT
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demkantor said:
have a friend with the same name is all, have fun flashing new roms!
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Same name and same surname? Wow, never seen another one like me lol. Thanks, I always do, love to mod my phone, just bought a new 1800mAh Mugen Power Battery for it, changed the xeon led for a new one (original went faulty) and now I'm just waiting for my new Zagg InvisibleSHIELD replacement and new rubberized cover. =] Hey, do you run your G2/DZ overclocked? I'm running right now at 1.5GMhz max and the original 800Mhz minimum using the SmartAssV2 Governor. The battery life on ICS is WAAAAAAY better than it was with Ginger.

Dimitri Vladkov said:
I hope that's not 100% accurate, cause I don't see why the G2/DZ couldn't have an official ICS release, I mean, it's hardware can support it perfectly so what would be the reason? Anyway, I'll revert later to 2.3x and see how Google Goggles handles, but even if it works fine I'll get back to the latest beta of Cyanogenmod 9, everything's been working perfectly so far, aside from this Google Goggles problem, and if it never gets solved I can still live with that, I usually don't even use it, just wondered why it wasn't working as it should. But thanks for the info so far.
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Marketing, it's old enough to the point that it's more economically feasible without as much *****yness from consumers to not bother providing drivers/etc for it when consumers can just buy a brand new model to get ICS.
I'm in the same boat though, my camera is 'functional' I can see the screen just fine and can take a picture, it just not as feature-packed or as high quality as it was with gingerbread.

kbeezie said:
Marketing, it's old enough to the point that it's more economically feasible without as much *****yness from consumers to not bother providing drivers/etc for it when consumers can just buy a brand new model to get ICS.
I'm in the same boat though, my camera is 'functional' I can see the screen just fine and can take a picture, it just not as feature-packed or as high quality as it was with gingerbread.
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Exactly, but even so the Pros of running ICS on the G2/DZ easily surpass the Cons. I for one can say my battery life at least doubled, and the system runs way more smoothly than it used to with Gingerbread. I guess now we can only hope that those great guys at the development teams can come up with solutions for everything, who knows? Maybe a newer model from HTC with ICS has a camera driver compatible with the G2/DZ. Until then I'll keep experimenting with the Betas till I find the best solution.

Dimitri Vladkov said:
Exactly, but even so the Pros of running ICS on the G2/DZ easily surpass the Cons. I for one can say my battery life at least doubled, and the system runs way more smoothly than it used to with Gingerbread. I guess now we can only hope that those great guys at the development teams can come up with solutions for everything, who knows? Maybe a newer model from HTC with ICS has a camera driver compatible with the G2/DZ. Until then I'll keep experimenting with the Betas till I find the best solution.
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well in regards to battery life and other performance benefits you can mainly thank the Rom creators for that. I've no doubt that if you tried to use a pretty much 'stock' configuration of ICS the battery life would be much worse and performance wouldn't seem quite a nice. Most of the benefits I enjoy in my current ICS rom is primarily credited to the rom's creator as he did quite a number on optimizing it specifically for the G2/Vision.

What is the best CM10 rom?

So now that we have 3 different roms, which one is the more stable and more complete?
-tbalden
-Tripnraver
-Paranoid
What about GPS,wifi,camera,BT... and random reboots?

vegetaleb said:
So now that we have 3 different roms, which one is the more stable and more complete?
-tbalden
-Tripnraver
-Paranoid
What about GPS,wifi,camera,BT... and random reboots?
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Here is a comparison by timlambo. Also by theDroidfanatic here. If you ask my personal opinion, none is ready yet for everyday use by the masses.....

So it's not a good time to have a walk in the CM10 area yet?

I have tried tgascoignes build 25 and tbaldens preview 4 and must say that tbaldens is in my opinion better. Nothing big differences but tbaldens is more smooth for me. specially with apex launcer that rom is like butter. Dont know about tripandravers rom, but what I have read it seems little more buggy.

What about the AOSP then?

Sckank said:
What about the AOSP then?
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The aosp is doing good at the moment, but please remember, that it still has some work to do. It aslo has the game fix in pathed, but not on the kernel side(In short, you can flash any kernel with this and still play nice games like dead trigger). The latest build of the aosp is being uploaded, so you might want to try it out.
In truth, the best build now, might be pure aosp, or the cm10 from tbalden(Going towards the first choice here).

vegetaleb said:
So it's not a good time to have a walk in the CM10 area yet?
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There are still some issues left before devs address the battery issues. I will wait until then since I need my phone daily
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Trip's rom also got updated, so now all jb roms are on the same page(Favour tipped again towards Trip(maybe)) Will test tomorrow and report. At the end, it is more personal prefrence and I have no say, only my own opinion.

PeK_m said:
I have tried tgascoignes build 25 and tbaldens preview 4 and must say that tbaldens is in my opinion better. Nothing big differences but tbaldens is more smooth for me. specially with apex launcer that rom is like butter. Dont know about tripandravers rom, but what I have read it seems little more buggy.
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Agree with this. That and there's been four preview updates in three days shows the commitment that tbalden and the team have to getting this running smoothly.
There are a few little jitters here and there (some echoing on calls) but generally the positives of Jelly Bean are well worth a look if you've rooted and are happy alpha testing new software.

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Agree with this. That and there's been four preview updates in three days shows the commitment that tbalden and the team have to getting this running smoothly.
There are a few little jitters here and there (some echoing on calls) but generally the positives of Jelly Bean are well worth a look if you've rooted and are happy alpha testing new software.
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I'll call it more closer to beta. It has little to no issues, and all major issues, except echo, are fixed. Definitely a daily driver. Also one of the biggest hox people, hamdir, said it is also stable enough for a daily driver. I recommend to go and read some in the general thread, the massive hox info.
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I'll call it more closer to beta. It has little to no issues, and all major issues, except echo, are fixed. Definitely a daily driver. Also one of the biggest hox people, hamdir, said it is also stable enough for a daily driver. I recommend to go and read some in the general thread, the massive hox info.
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yeah he also recommended that one as a daily driver.. but for me i like to wait a few more days and maybe a couple of weeks before i commit.. but from all the reading here i say tbaldens one is the one to go for

Goku80 said:
yeah he also recommended that one as a daily driver.. but for me i like to wait a few more days and maybe a couple of weeks before i commit.. but from all the reading here i say tbaldens one is the one to go for
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Yes, he is indeed making very very quick progress. Probably the fastest of them all.
I just saw the post about Trip. Guess we still have to wait. In a few weeks time, mist developers will probably be working on a new kernel, because this development is flying.
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Trip has released a new version, 004. In the changelog it seems that he has fixed all prior problems!
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I am testing now Trip 004 new build of CM10, and I can say, up till now, all previous issues are fixed, and it`s very smooth and fast. Some guys report camera FC, but didn`t occur with my HOX, I will report after more testing for a day or so.

Trip will be releasing 005 with his 3.1.10 kernel. Probably today. I am getting tempted TBH.....:laugh:

Been using tbaldens preview 4 since yesterday and only issue I got with rom is quite poor battery life. Device sleeps nicely, but when you actually use it for something like twitter or facebook it drains battery very fast. Also slight call echo is still to be fixed. but besides these I can recommend this rom as daily driver also.

PeK_m said:
Been using tbaldens preview 4 since yesterday and only issue I got with rom is quite poor battery life. Device sleeps nicely, but when you actually use it for something like twitter or facebook it drains battery very fast. Also slight call echo is still to be fixed. but besides these I can recommend this rom as daily driver also.
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I am also using tbaldens preview 4 and calls are clear for me and for daily use all the critical functions are working quite well including "Google Now". Just for the buttery smooth experience, I am happy that I am using this ROM. With regards the battery drain, I have removed the notification check intervals for facebook and mail and to check manually. Now my battery life is good enough to survive a day

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I am also using tbaldens preview 4 and calls are clear for me and for daily use all the critical functions are working quite well including "Google Now". Just for the buttery smooth experience, I am happy that I am using this ROM. With regards the battery drain, I have removed the notification check intervals for facebook and mail and to check manually. Now my battery life is good enough to survive a day
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Does the one that is speaking with you experiencing echo? I have also have none echo to me but the caller can hear him/herself. Gotta try those thing you mentioned for better battery life. btw preview 5 just landed! devs are on fire

How's camera?
With viperx I have very nice results and 0 compression, meaning each photo is about 5mb!
Too bad sense 4 dev is ''freezed'', they are pushing us into CM10
Did you find some 720p themes? Specially with transparent statusbar...

Installed trips CMX yesterday evening. Have four reboots and couple of fc`s so far, performance is quite good thou. On toms or tbaldens rom got no reboots or fc`s at all. For me trips rom is most unstable.
After testing all of the three JB`s I still say that tbaldens one is for me. Best performance and stability. Tom`s is good too in terms of stability, but performance is worse than others. If you search JB rom to start with I would recommend tbaldens one hands down.

[Q] Advice or opinions on recording audio/video?

So it's been 4 months now and I still have not found a solution to this mic issue. Here is a video I recorded lastnight at a club. You can hear the tinny-ness and the distortion breaking up. Iknow Iknow......I KNOW, "It's a phone, what do you expect"? But I've been spoiled with my last Samsung Galaxy S4G, with Voodoo Sound on board .It allowed me to adjust the recording level. It seems like everytime I ask about Voodoo Sound being available for our phone, people assume it's because I want the audio OUT features, but actually I want the mic preset controls. Supposedly irig was coming to android at the begining of this month, but it's 24 days late, so far
I don't see much mention of the mic issue on xda, so maybe no one cares. But I figured I'd ask if anyone has a solution thus far... or any roms with it ported... or kernels that are compatible?
Thanks everyone!
http://youtu.be/ufYu7wpj_b8
PS. I don't know this band,,, it's not selfless promotion

There are a few ROMs that have voodoo compatibility. I know vanilla rootbox does, its AOSP, in the AT&T section. Tweaked might be adding it in the near future as well. Tweaked is TW based and an incredible ROM.
TWEAKED 1.4™

Thanks! I searched for tweaked but I'm coming up with a lot of threads. Do you have the link?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2109229
There you go. Enjoy.
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[Q] Viper4Android & jetAudio

Hey guys,
just rooted my z1c with the completely awesome and easy new rooting method and installed V4A. Love it but it seems to be not working with the newest jetaudio player. Tried searching the xda forums but kinda got overwhelmed by the results and wasn't skilled enough to narrow down the search enough to get any useful results. I guess i have some settings enabled in jetaudio i shouldn't have. Tried all i could find but there seems to be no change...
Do you guys have any ideas why that could be?
Would love to hear from you,
regards
Clemens

xCJ999 said:
Hey guys,
just rooted my z1c with the completely awesome and easy new rooting method and installed V4A. Love it but it seems to be not working with the newest jetaudio player. Tried searching the xda forums but kinda got overwhelmed by the results and wasn't skilled enough to narrow down the search enough to get any useful results. I guess i have some settings enabled in jetaudio i shouldn't have. Tried all i could find but there seems to be no change...
Do you guys have any ideas why that could be?
Would love to hear from you,
regards
Clemens
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im not 100% mate but i think that V4A is only compatible with the standard walkman player and not others.
if you want awesome sound and to use it on other players ... (i like n7player :good: ) try the ac!d audio mod, it works with all players as it mods your core audio lib files etc :highfive:

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im not 100% mate but i think that V4A is only compatible with the standard walkman player and not others.
if you want awesome sound and to use it on other players ... (i like n7player :good: ) try the ac!d audio mod, it works with all players as it mods your core audio lib files etc :highfive:
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hey man, thanks for the quick reply :highfive: I definitly can say v4a works well with n7, i'm just not 100% sold on the player yet. Guess i just got used to jetaudio
Will definitly give ac!d a try. Have you ever tried v4a ... pretty amazing what it can do especially if you have some nice IRS samples. Maybe i just need to buy the n7 and get used to it
btw. any custom rom you particularly like? Now that i have backed up my drm keys the floodgates of rom hell are open for me

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hey man, thanks for the quick reply :highfive: I definitly can say v4a works well with n7, i'm just not 100% sold on the player yet. Guess i just got used to jetaudio
Will definitly give ac!d a try. Have you ever tried v4a ... pretty amazing what it can do especially if you have some nice IRS samples. Maybe i just need to buy the n7 and get used to it
btw. any custom rom you particularly like? Now that i have backed up my drm keys the floodgates of rom hell are open for me
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No problem mate glad I could help, I was just going on my last phone Xperia M - the V4A port of that only works with the Walkman player, well as I understand that's what was described in the thread, I didn't actually flash it.
I've used the ac!d mod for a few years since i had my Ray... it was awesome on that, made a huge difference in quality, I had it flashed on my M and it was worth it, not quite as good as on the Ray but think the M lacks quite a bit on sound quality and volume through the headphone port
To answer your question about a ROM I only got my z1c yesterday and I've flashed KitSlim and DoomKernel as like to stick with the stock/modified stock look on any of my ROMs with all the tweaks and performance gains. So far its really good I like it, but then I'm used to using a mid-range good value phone that's modded to f**k to make it as good as (or as close to as I can get) a flagship... (software wise anyway, my Ray was great for ports and mods)
With DoomKernel you get FauxSound support which is amazing (apart from the random FC's that I need to ask about) for pre-amping your headphones as much as you like without ANY distortion :fingers-crossed:
The only thing now is that I actually have a flagship device lol - so nothing needs porting and I've pretty much got all the performance I need because the phones an absolute powerhouse :victory:
Depends on how much customisation you want really - your not gonna beat modified stock for performance and battery life BUT if you want all the customisations and bells and whistles then try the CM based ROMS:good:

yeah, its crazy how the output power for headphones varies from phone to phone. The Z1C is one of the better ones in my oppionion. I'm not a big fan of preamping from the phone cause to my ears it always messes up the sound ... so i'm curious about doomlords kernel...
Really good to hear your view on the whole rom thing. I guess it's 3 things that count for me ... sound quality, battery life and privacy/security ... I'm still not clear how secure it is to use a rooted phone( needed for V4A) with supersu but ... what the heck
So I guess I'll stay on the stock rom for now and maybe l'll look into doomlords kernel as well ... I kinda really want to have dt2w but it looks like its not happening for now
thanks for your extensive response :good:

xCJ999 said:
yeah, its crazy how the output power for headphones varies from phone to phone. The Z1C is one of the better ones in my oppionion. I'm not a big fan of preamping from the phone cause to my ears it always messes up the sound ... so i'm curious about doomlords kernel...
Really good to hear your view on the whole rom thing. I guess it's 3 things that count for me ... sound quality, battery life and privacy/security ... I'm still not clear how secure it is to use a rooted phone( needed for V4A) with supersu but ... what the heck
So I guess I'll stay on the stock rom for now and maybe l'll look into doomlords kernel as well ... I kinda really want to have dt2w but it looks like its not happening for now
thanks for your extensive response :good:
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Yeah i totally understand what you mean about the pre-amping.. on the M if i pre-amped above 4/5Db (in n7player) its caused horrible distortion and did mess up the sound but on the z1c its genuinely fantastic.
I wouldn't worry about security of your phone, especially if you've got root and/or a custom ROM as any of the fixes needed to protect "security risks" are usually already implemented, if not included as mods/tweaks in the ROM then just because you're pretty much fully up to date on software.
If your looking at sound quality and battery life mate i seriously recommend KitSlim and the DoomKernel, I've just had 2days 14hours 53mins battery life (put it on charge at 5% remaining) i used it for music (n7player) for about 3-4 hours each day, regular phone usage, installing a few apps and the odd photo/video to test out the new camera (must say I'm impressed, people moaning about poor quality low light photos - get a REAL camera then... its a mobile phone!!) AND I've had the brightness on 100% the whole time
So yeah pretty pleased with my first choice of ROM on this phone, plus the maker of it is uploading a new one i think today or this week :victory:

mindyabiznis said:
Yeah i totally understand what you mean about the pre-amping.. on the M if i pre-amped above 4/5Db (in n7player) its caused horrible distortion and did mess up the sound but on the z1c its genuinely fantastic.
I wouldn't worry about security of your phone, especially if you've got root and/or a custom ROM as any of the fixes needed to protect "security risks" are usually already implemented, if not included as mods/tweaks in the ROM then just because you're pretty much fully up to date on software.
If your looking at sound quality and battery life mate i seriously recommend KitSlim and the DoomKernel, I've just had 2days 14hours 53mins battery life (put it on charge at 5% remaining) i used it for music (n7player) for about 3-4 hours each day, regular phone usage, installing a few apps and the odd photo/video to test out the new camera (must say I'm impressed, people moaning about poor quality low light photos - get a REAL camera then... its a mobile phone!!) AND I've had the brightness on 100% the whole time
So yeah pretty pleased with my first choice of ROM on this phone, plus the maker of it is uploading a new one i think today or this week :victory:
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Sorry it took me so long to reply, have been busy .
I installed Kitslim and love it!!! battery performance is stellar and it works flawlessly. Really a pitty I'm not allowed to post a thread in developers section yet, cause I wanted to let the devs/guys who ported it know how much I love their rom. Can't wait for evo 6. anyway... I definitly want to try out doomlords kernel, but am a bit hesitant about unlocking the bootloader. Did a TA Backup but still a bit frightened about bricking my phone/needing the keys for warrenty and something going wrong when restoring them
Guess I'll just wait if he will manage to incorporate dt2w ... having that would be worth the risk. Btw. do you know why omarainea isn't porting the newer kernel version? I wonder how much work it is porting a kernel and if i could learn it ... might be a bit sophomoric though

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Sorry it took me so long to reply, have been busy .
I installed Kitslim and love it!!! battery performance is stellar and it works flawlessly. Really a pitty I'm not allowed to post a thread in developers section yet, cause I wanted to let the devs/guys who ported it know how much I love their rom. Can't wait for evo 6. anyway... I definitly want to try out doomlords kernel, but am a bit hesitant about unlocking the bootloader. Did a TA Backup but still a bit frightened about bricking my phone/needing the keys for warrenty and something going wrong when restoring them
Guess I'll just wait if he will manage to incorporate dt2w ... having that would be worth the risk. Btw. do you know why omarainea isn't porting the newer kernel version? I wonder how much work it is porting a kernel and if i could learn it ... might be a bit sophomoric though
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Hey... sorry i didnt notice you had responded hence me not replying lol :silly:
You don't need to be allowed to post in the developers section mate you can just post in their thread saying thanks and that you like the ROM and/or request any specific mods or tweaks you might like.
DoomKernel did have dt2w but he took it out because apparently it causes unnecessary battery drain.
With regards to the unlocking of your bootloader its ABSOLUTELY fine mate Sony support it and you have to use their website to get you bootloader unlocking code anyway, plus restoring the TA is a piece of p!ss seriously.
The performance gains and general pro's to be had from a custom kernel faaaaar outweigh the risks posed when unlocking your bootloader and flashing a new kernel trust me :highfive:

v4a will not work when jet audios hra playback is enabled. it used to work but some roms with dolby and such have some hdcp written into them so it will disable v4a in certain cases.
my rom is the same btw i cant find a fix either. rmember to resart jet audio when you click the hra on or off.
and i just noticed how old this post was. lol