I am switching from a nexus one on at&t. I love that damn phone, but hate the network now that i am in AZ. so i am gonna switch to verizon and get the incredible since it is getting cyanogenmod. I have read that on the EVO there have been OTA patches that block rooting from occuring. I wanted to make sure that there have not been any of those types of OTA updates for the incredible. I just want to be sure before i order one that i won't be stuck with a locked phone. thanks guys.
Bad timing considering OTA is around the corner for 2.2. You best bet is to shoot to a verizon store ask to see the phone and check the build before you purchase.
so as long as it still has 2.1 i should be good? that it pretty simple. correct?
correct. From what we are seeing now, there is a good chance that 2.2 will close all access blocking the ability to root.
That update has not come yet, but will soon.
Hurry!!
well i had to order it because no one in the area has them in stock, no surprise. i really hope that it doesn't come with 2.2 preinstalled. with all the leaks i'm afraid it will. i'm a little unsure about whether it is possible to downgrade. i know on a nexus i could push either a nandroid or system.img downgrade. is that possible without root? i'm guessing no but wondering if i could get a definitive yes or no
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Hey folks,
I have a simple question, for those of us who installed the unoffcial 2.2 OTA manually (yes I know root is broken, yes I know I'm bad, etc.) what would be the best course of action moving forward?
If the "official" is coming out tomorrow and I can accept the update, do that? (considering any DEV's out there that are interested in finding the exploits to the official 2.2 won't work on the one released this past weekend, but the one tomorrow)
Do NOT accept the official OTA tomorrow and just leave the "unofficial" leak I have.
What do you folks think? And like I said, I understand that by accepting the risk of the unofficial OTA I broke root and there is a risk of never having root ever again (didn't have it in first place)
I'd wait. If there is a way to root the version you have, you can do that when it's published. I'm wondering if the whole pre-release thing was a ploy to get the dev community to find any holes in the update so they could plug them in the final release, especially with the new jailbreaking legalities.
If the real update is rootable, you just wait and update then. I would stay where you are if you don't really need to update to the final release.
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I'd wait. If there is a way to root the version you have, you can do that when it's published. I'm wondering if the whole pre-release thing was a ploy to get the dev community to find any holes in the update so they could plug them in the final release, especially with the new jailbreaking legalities.
If the real update is rootable, you just wait and update then. I would stay where you are if you don't really need to update to the final release.
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I kinda doubt that they were looking for root exploits with the leak, simply not enough time. I would bet they were just seeing if this broke anything spectacularly or not, basically a release candidate more than anything more malicious.
Do you want to root eventually?
If so, staying where you are keeps your chances higher. You can always upgrade, can't go back though.
If you don't care i'd update. Watch to see if htc says anything about your process to update again.
Also, if everything works fine right now, you could wait and watch what devs do.
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I should have specified but my intentions are to root in the future (if possible). And HTC did release a statement on their twitter saying that the unofficial users would free an official update to get "back on track". Whether or not that is what is coming out tomorrow is unknown...
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Do you want to root eventually?
If so, staying where you are keeps your chances higher. You can always upgrade, can't go back though.
If you don't care i'd update. Watch to see if htc says anything about your process to update again.
Also, if everything works fine right now, you could wait and watch what devs do.
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+1
Nobody has released a root method for the update yet, thus HTC won't really know what holes to close. if there is a method I'm sure they are keeping it hush hush so as NOT to alert HTC of any holes, plus if the Official update isn't rootable (slim chance the devs will figure something out) then they still have the Unofficial to work with, so stay with the unofficial and you definitly have more options, whether you need all those options is yours to decide!!
Then wait. Two chances are better than one.
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Does HTC FroYo even matter when we have CM6?
Hey all
Still trying to absorb all the info around here. My contract is up with ATT at the end of August and I'll be getting an EVO then. However, by that time all the EVOs sold will most likely be coming stock with Froyo. I'm really looking forward to rooting/flashing, so I'm a little worried stock Froyo isn't rootable if you haven't rooted/unencrypted the NAND before you upgraded. Is this [currently] the case?
-Caanon
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Hey all
Still trying to absorb all the info around here. My contract is up with ATT at the end of August and I'll be getting an EVO then. However, by that time all the EVOs sold will most likely be coming stock with Froyo. I'm really looking forward to rooting/flashing, so I'm a little worried stock Froyo isn't rootable if you haven't rooted/unencrypted the NAND before you upgraded. Is this [currently] the case?
-Caanon
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As of now, stock Froyo is NOT rootable. Fear not though Caanon. A dev will root it. It's inevitable. I've noticed the devs around here love challenges.
You are basically stuck until a dev finds a new root method to get 2.2 rooted. Give it time i am sure a dev will
EDIT: See above!
Perfect, exactly what I was expecting. Thanks!
+1, hope it wont wait for too long.
It's also safe to assume that the phone will NOT be leaving the store with 2.2 already by the end of the month. You should be able to use the current methods (I prefer simple root) to root your phone.
It's even SAFER to assume that the latest OTA will have a root method by the end of the month, so even if it does, you won't have to worry about it.
In short:
Don't worry about it. If you get the phone at the end of the month, you'll have no problem rooting.
Hi, well over the past week I have noticed a bump or some sort of spot on the bottom of my evo. I have root and all that good stuff but it is really annoying and I want to take it to the store.
Does anyone one know what is the best way to take the phone back?
I mean I know I have to flash the ruu but I don't want the Sprint people to update the phone to 2.2 since I want root.
Thanks
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There are plenty of threads detailing how to unroot and go back to stock. Find them.
As for keeping 2.1, if you have to exchange your phone you're going to be waiting for the luck of the draw. Some stores have older phones in stock with 2.1, but new ones are shipping with 2.2, so the longer you wait the worse your chances of finding a new 2.1. If they are able to service it, just tell them not to update the phone as you're concerned that the new update is not stable and you have seen several reports of decreased performance. They can't FORCE you to take it. Just make it clear when you hand the phone over, maybe even get them to sign a note.
There's sure to be a 2.2 rooting method soon enough, though, so you won't be out in the cold forever. Or, failing that, a way to root Gingerbread. . . .
Yes don't worry they will release root for 2.2 very soon
Question About unrEVOked Forever and the S Protection on/off....
Is there any reason to actually use it? My phones fully rooted, NAND is unlocked etc so do I really need it? I mean I know I can do everything I need to do now but what was the purpose of turning S Protect on and off? I read the thread, I saw what it said about being able to flash official updates but then still being able to go back to rooted ones but WHY is this important?
I'm just trying to understand WHY I may or may not want to do this and what ill affects it might have down the road.
Unrevoked currently permanently unlocks/roots the phone. While it is conceivable that Sprint/HTC might patch this exploit in the future, the prevailing sentiment is that they won't because it would break the legitimate Evo engineering phones.
What it does is unlock the phone at a level below the radio and normal hboot/rom process. So, if you take an OTA update in the future, you may lose root on that new rom, but you will still be unlocked and so can reinstall the custom recovery and root.
This currently is a permanent unlock with no known way to relock it and no promise/guarantee that it will ever be reversible. So, you have permanently voided your warranty for the ability to hopefully never lose root in the future.
-frank
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So what your saying is... If I ever need to file an insurance claim on my phone, it's best that it falls into a lake.
Here is another question then.
Can Sprint/HTC force an OTA on you that would kill the current root? If not then there really isn't any reason to use unrEVOked right now for me, I know not to take official OTA's. I know it would have been handy for some people, the ones who took the official OTA 2.2 like idiots because they couldn't wait. Look what being impatient got them! I knew when it dropped it was bad news. Hell, I'm still on Fresh Rom 1.0.1 (Eclair 2.1, if it isn't broken, don't fix it. You know what I mean?
Well, I DID try a couple rooted 2.2 ROMS but I knew to wait is what I was saying. Being in a rush can come back to bit you in the ass sometimes, like it did for some many. Guess my only concern is forced updating by Sprint. Never heard of such a thing but you never know. If that was even a remote possibility, turning the protection lock off could be a good thing I guess.
Hello everyone I'm new to the samsung forum... I switched from evo 3d.
I noticed there was an over the air update available and before I accept anything I want to make sure that would not stop me from rooting my phone. Our gaining full root access.
not to compare, but with evo 3d if you took the 1st over the air update it would change your Hboot version and made it impossible to gain full root access.
Is this the case with the samsung galaxy?
My baseband version is:
S710.10 S.EG30
Thanks in advance.
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Go ahead and accept it, you can still root
Here's how- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Naw, you can root after accepting OTA. Or you can just update from the ROMs around here, which come rooted and are available in their stock versions.
Ok thanks...I know with the evo, ota's prior to rooting and after were a no no. but it looks like samsung is different.
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I don't think they were saying OTA's in general were a good idea. They were saying this particular OTA has been verified OK. The future ones could do things you wouldn't like, so check back when those come out.
Always be suspicious of OTA's, but, I would be extremely surprised if Samsung decided to lock our phones up as HTC decided to. That's one of the main reasons why I returned my E3D (after being a loyal HTC buyer who was extra thrilled with his Evo4G experience).
I think Samsung is fine making their razor thin margins and letting us have our way with the hardware. We're also the same people who will toss this phone and buy a new one as soon as something better comes along so they won't be losing that 'upgrade for software update' money on us...as for the carriers? I'm not sure why they'd give a ****. Data is data. Aside from locking down chronic tetherers...but I think anyone who mods to tether probably wouldn't have paid for the service anyway and I we're such a small fraction of their customer base that even though a few bad apples go hog wild on all-you-can-eat data we're still statistically a insignificant group so far as bandwidth consumption is concerned.
But, yeah, just get your updates from here. There is no reason to take an OTA.