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[Q] are there OTA patches make phone unrootable?

I am switching from a nexus one on at&t. I love that damn phone, but hate the network now that i am in AZ. so i am gonna switch to verizon and get the incredible since it is getting cyanogenmod. I have read that on the EVO there have been OTA patches that block rooting from occuring. I wanted to make sure that there have not been any of those types of OTA updates for the incredible. I just want to be sure before i order one that i won't be stuck with a locked phone. thanks guys.

Bad timing considering OTA is around the corner for 2.2. You best bet is to shoot to a verizon store ask to see the phone and check the build before you purchase.

so as long as it still has 2.1 i should be good? that it pretty simple. correct?

correct. From what we are seeing now, there is a good chance that 2.2 will close all access blocking the ability to root.
That update has not come yet, but will soon.
Hurry!!

well i had to order it because no one in the area has them in stock, no surprise. i really hope that it doesn't come with 2.2 preinstalled. with all the leaks i'm afraid it will. i'm a little unsure about whether it is possible to downgrade. i know on a nexus i could push either a nandroid or system.img downgrade. is that possible without root? i'm guessing no but wondering if i could get a definitive yes or no

Best way to get evo on 2.1

Hi, well over the past week I have noticed a bump or some sort of spot on the bottom of my evo. I have root and all that good stuff but it is really annoying and I want to take it to the store.
Does anyone one know what is the best way to take the phone back?
I mean I know I have to flash the ruu but I don't want the Sprint people to update the phone to 2.2 since I want root.
Thanks
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There are plenty of threads detailing how to unroot and go back to stock. Find them.
As for keeping 2.1, if you have to exchange your phone you're going to be waiting for the luck of the draw. Some stores have older phones in stock with 2.1, but new ones are shipping with 2.2, so the longer you wait the worse your chances of finding a new 2.1. If they are able to service it, just tell them not to update the phone as you're concerned that the new update is not stable and you have seen several reports of decreased performance. They can't FORCE you to take it. Just make it clear when you hand the phone over, maybe even get them to sign a note.
There's sure to be a 2.2 rooting method soon enough, though, so you won't be out in the cold forever. Or, failing that, a way to root Gingerbread. . . .

Yes don't worry they will release root for 2.2 very soon

[Q] Root method for 2.3 Gingerbread and help please

OKay for weeks now i have been searching ways to Root my HTC EVO I have been looking and looking maybe i am confused so now i see great methods to root the files are no good such as ginger breaks and other ways such you tube videos but unable to find a video who do play by play how to do a easy successful root method now i am currently S-on my Hboot is 2.15 and build number is 4.24 now i know unrevoked is not working since the update make a long story short if anybody has some of a method please reply in a nice way and don't bash me because i may not know this phone stuffed by i am geek in computers so we all have good things what we do best.

Put simply, 2.3 hasn't been rooted yet, they're making progress but you're out of luck for the moment.

Still no method yet, waiting impatiently, check the forums multiple time daily. I'm sure there will be an announcement when it available, so just keep your eyes peeled. Just rooted my wifes evo because she never accepted the OTA, now I'm drooling in jealousy.

That hurt my head
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That hurt my head
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Yup.....Mine hurts too now...

Boltons75 said:
Still no method yet, waiting impatiently, check the forums multiple time daily. I'm sure there will be an announcement when it available, so just keep your eyes peeled. Just rooted my wifes evo because she never accepted the OTA, now I'm drooling in jealousy.
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ALRIGHT WELL I STILL HAVE MY htc HD 2 PHONE AND THAT PROCESS IS SO EASY THE 3.0 SENSE IS CRAZY ON THAT PHONE I WISH SOME 1 WOULD MAKE IT AS SIMPLE TO JAILBREAK ON THE HTC HD 2 PHONE BUT I WILL STILL LOOK OUT OR TRICK MY BROTHER AND CHANGE PHONES HE NEVER UPDATED EITHER LOL

he has hboot 2.15?
didnt even know that existed, but afaik, anything BELOW 2.16 is rootable

dgotgame816 said:
OKay for weeks now i have been searching ways to Root my HTC EVO I have been looking and looking maybe i am confused so now i see great methods to root the files are no good such as ginger breaks and other ways such you tube videos but unable to find a video who do play by play how to do a easy successful root method now i am currently S-on my Hboot is 2.15 and build number is 4.24 now i know unrevoked is not working since the update make a long story short if anybody has some of a method please reply in a nice way and don't bash me because i may not know this phone stuffed by i am geek in computers so we all have good things what we do best.
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Well I have my HTC evo 4g fully rooted with unrevoked. What I did is I broke my phone and I'm under the black tie program with sprint. I called asurion to get my NEW AND UNUSED PHONE. They asked if I would rather it come fully activated. Or would I rather activate it myself. I told them I'd rather activate it myself. I paid the 100 dollar deposit and while Isaac activating my phone I stopped the firmware and software update. It only comes on the phone as an ota if you activate yourself. If they activation it you will be stuck where you are. After stopping the firmware update I was sitting at stock android 2.2 aka froyobwith hboot 2.10. If you're willing to spend 100 bucks to do this, it will come a lot faster than the HTC bootloader update or the developers hacking methods. No offense to the development team. You Guy do an amazing job. But yea, that's the way I did it. Then I rooted with unrevoked and am currently running cm7 and am extremely happy with improved battery life along many other things. Maybe this will help you

hawke591 said:
Well I have my HTC evo 4g fully rooted with unrevoked. What I did is I broke my phone and I'm under the black tie program with sprint. I called asurion to get my NEW AND UNUSED PHONE. They asked if I would rather it come fully activated. Or would I rather activate it myself. I told them I'd rather activate it myself. I paid the 100 dollar deposit and while Isaac activating my phone I stopped the firmware and software update. It only comes on the phone as an ota if you activate yourself. If they activation it you will be stuck where you are. After stopping the firmware update I was sitting at stock android 2.2 aka froyobwith hboot 2.10. If you're willing to spend 100 bucks to do this, it will come a lot faster than the HTC bootloader update or the developers hacking methods. No offense to the development team. You Guy do an amazing job. But yea, that's the way I did it. Then I rooted with unrevoked and am currently running cm7 and am extremely happy with improved battery life along many other things. Maybe this will help you
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I agree with this. NEVER EVER EVER EVER LET SPRINT activate a phone. DON'T EVEN LET THOSE ASSHOLES TOUCH IT! Biggest mistake you can EVER EVER make! spread this around. :-D However!, I find it hard to believe on the "I called asurion to get my NEW AND UNUSED PHONE."

It might not be unused but it definitely came in mint condition with the froyo firmware on it so that's all I needed lol as of right now if you're willing to spend the 100 bucks its well worth it in my opinion. Good luck getting root guys ill see if I can't find a way to help the devs and the others working in the collaboration in the development section.

hawke591 said:
Well I have my HTC evo 4g fully rooted with unrevoked. What I did is I broke my phone and I'm under the black tie program with sprint. I called asurion to get my NEW AND UNUSED PHONE. They asked if I would rather it come fully activated. Or would I rather activate it myself. I told them I'd rather activate it myself. I paid the 100 dollar deposit and while Isaac activating my phone I stopped the firmware and software update. It only comes on the phone as an ota if you activate yourself. If they activation it you will be stuck where you are. After stopping the firmware update I was sitting at stock android 2.2 aka froyobwith hboot 2.10. If you're willing to spend 100 bucks to do this, it will come a lot faster than the HTC bootloader update or the developers hacking methods. No offense to the development team. You Guy do an amazing job. But yea, that's the way I did it. Then I rooted with unrevoked and am currently running cm7 and am extremely happy with improved battery life along many other things. Maybe this will help you
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That is not necessarily true. My evo was destroyed in a car accident. Asurion sent me my replacement. I was hoping it would be 2.2 and denied their request to activate my phone. When the new phone arrived, it had already been loaded with 2.3.3. I didn’t even bother to activate it and ended up going back to my rooted hero for the time being. Getting a replacement phone is a crapshoot. There are multiple posts on XDA giving anecdotal reports of replacement phones. Most are shipping with gingerbread. Some still will have froyo. Some (very few) will come with S-off. Don’t assume that by breaking your phone and dropping $100 you will automatically be shipped a phone capable of being unlocked at present time.

hydroxylicacid said:
That is not necessarily true. My evo was destroyed in a car accident. Asurion sent me my replacement. I was hoping it would be 2.2 and denied their request to activate my phone. When the new phone arrived, it had already been loaded with 2.3.3. I didn’t even bother to activate it and ended up going back to my rooted hero for the time being. Getting a replacement phone is a crapshoot. There are multiple posts on XDA giving anecdotal reports of replacement phones. Most are shipping with gingerbread. Some still will have froyo. Some (very few) will come with S-off. Don’t assume that by breaking your phone and dropping $100 you will automatically be shipped a phone capable of being unlocked at present time.
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It really depends on if the phone was made before the ota release date and whatnot. You cn request that it come with 2.2 instead of gb. This method may not work for everyone but I know that it has worked for the friends I have around my area. They saw what happened and wanted to try it and its worked for them. If you feel that its a longshot at getting the right phone
Then by all means stick with what you've got. I just was willing to try anything to get rid of gb. But now I'm running cm7 with a tiamat kernel and am very happy. Little side note: I actually didn't break my phone on purpose.

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Well I have my HTC evo 4g fully rooted with unrevoked. What I did is I broke my phone and I'm under the black tie program with sprint. I called asurion to get my NEW AND UNUSED PHONE. They asked if I would rather it come fully activated. Or would I rather activate it myself. I told them I'd rather activate it myself. I paid the 100 dollar deposit and while Isaac activating my phone I stopped the firmware and software update. It only comes on the phone as an ota if you activate yourself. If they activation it you will be stuck where you are. After stopping the firmware update I was sitting at stock android 2.2 aka froyobwith hboot 2.10. If you're willing to spend 100 bucks to do this, it will come a lot faster than the HTC bootloader update or the developers hacking methods. No offense to the development team. You Guy do an amazing job. But yea, that's the way I did it. Then I rooted with unrevoked and am currently running cm7 and am extremely happy with improved battery life along many other things. Maybe this will help you
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I see your method and point so I am in KCMO AKA Kansas City MO doing some research online and from Best Buy they have an HTC EVO for 99.99 in white Android 2.2 and even called them to confirmed but doing some thinking and playing around on the Android Market SPB 3D its Awesome since I cant root my phone but I pay the 14.95 that way my phone is not harm and I have my warranty still but i am sticking with SPB 3D

They just came out with the revolutionary root for gingerbread. Look in the android dev section and you'll find it. It works too. I rooted a friends phone using that method and he had absolutely no issues with his phone. Even though my usb cord had a short in it there was no problem with it that made it brick even though it disconnected multiple times. Id have to say that it is a very safe root method. So check it out if you're still interested in root
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Ota ?

Hello everyone I'm new to the samsung forum... I switched from evo 3d.
I noticed there was an over the air update available and before I accept anything I want to make sure that would not stop me from rooting my phone. Our gaining full root access.
not to compare, but with evo 3d if you took the 1st over the air update it would change your Hboot version and made it impossible to gain full root access.
Is this the case with the samsung galaxy?
My baseband version is:
S710.10 S.EG30
Thanks in advance.
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Go ahead and accept it, you can still root
Here's how- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728

Naw, you can root after accepting OTA. Or you can just update from the ROMs around here, which come rooted and are available in their stock versions.

Ok thanks...I know with the evo, ota's prior to rooting and after were a no no. but it looks like samsung is different.
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I don't think they were saying OTA's in general were a good idea. They were saying this particular OTA has been verified OK. The future ones could do things you wouldn't like, so check back when those come out.

Always be suspicious of OTA's, but, I would be extremely surprised if Samsung decided to lock our phones up as HTC decided to. That's one of the main reasons why I returned my E3D (after being a loyal HTC buyer who was extra thrilled with his Evo4G experience).
I think Samsung is fine making their razor thin margins and letting us have our way with the hardware. We're also the same people who will toss this phone and buy a new one as soon as something better comes along so they won't be losing that 'upgrade for software update' money on us...as for the carriers? I'm not sure why they'd give a ****. Data is data. Aside from locking down chronic tetherers...but I think anyone who mods to tether probably wouldn't have paid for the service anyway and I we're such a small fraction of their customer base that even though a few bad apples go hog wild on all-you-can-eat data we're still statistically a insignificant group so far as bandwidth consumption is concerned.
But, yeah, just get your updates from here. There is no reason to take an OTA.

Will rooting my phone make me ineligible for an upgrade?

I've had my phone for roughly 15 months. It has been my first foray into Android and I absolutely it. What I don't like is TouchWiz. It makes the phone a hassle to use because of how slow it runs. I've heard rooting makes a phone faster but I've always been hesitant to root it because of how it voids your warranty. However, since I'm eligible for an upgrade come February so I figure I should root my phone to experience rooting. I don't want to do it if it prevents me from getting a new phone.
Can anyone help me out here?

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I've had my phone for roughly 15 months. It has been my first foray into Android and I absolutely it. What I don't like is TouchWiz. It makes the phone a hassle to use because of how slow it runs. I've heard rooting makes a phone faster but I've always been hesitant to root it because of how it voids your warranty. However, since I'm eligible for an upgrade come February so I figure I should root my phone to experience rooting. I don't want to do it if it prevents me from getting a new phone.
Can anyone help me out here?
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you can always unroot your phone and im pretty sure that if you are eligable for an upgrade that they arent going to search your phone, more than likely is they send straight to factory and just flash it and send your phone to people who broke theirs lol
just saying from what i heard of, but you can root your phone and unroot if you want to experience how it is to have a rooted device, my phones een rooted for about year and a little more than half, soft bricked so many times but thats the fun part
flashing gets pretty addicting lol, im like a flashaholic
but trust me you'll enjoy it

Don't phone carriers have a way of knowing if you've rooted your phone in the past? The last thing I want to happen is to be told that I have to pay full price for a new phone after having it for like a week.

Straight from t-mobile website:
"As long as the phone you're trading in powers on, is not cracked, and has no water damage, you only have to pay a down payment for the next phone when you’re ready to upgrade."
At the same time it also mentions this:
"Once the used phone is received at the Trade-in Center, it will be tested and inspected. All personal data and corporate IT policies will be removed."
I would recommend reverting to stock first.

Thank you very much.
With this info in mind, I plan on rooting my device using Cyanogenmod. Can anyone confirm if triangle away works with the T-Mobile SII? How would I return to stock?

I've upgraded a few phones that were rooted and had different Roms I just flashed to stock and didn't even unroot they didn't check but might wanna just in case lol plus custom recovery is kinda a give away lol
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I've heard that if they find it rooted, even if it is a big IF, they are able to void the warranty. Don't think anything it matters for an upgrade though. Either way, they probably won't check it, and even if they do, I don't think they will do anything about it. You can always go back to stock to be safe.
I heard for the Note 3 they are adding a detection hardware that cannot be undone once rooted, even if you go back to stock. These kinds of things are made for people who like to find ways around them though, and these people usually win.

So, does TriangleAway work with the Samsung Galaxy S2? (I have the SGHT989D unlocked and rooted)?