Hey folks,
I have a simple question, for those of us who installed the unoffcial 2.2 OTA manually (yes I know root is broken, yes I know I'm bad, etc.) what would be the best course of action moving forward?
If the "official" is coming out tomorrow and I can accept the update, do that? (considering any DEV's out there that are interested in finding the exploits to the official 2.2 won't work on the one released this past weekend, but the one tomorrow)
Do NOT accept the official OTA tomorrow and just leave the "unofficial" leak I have.
What do you folks think? And like I said, I understand that by accepting the risk of the unofficial OTA I broke root and there is a risk of never having root ever again (didn't have it in first place)
I'd wait. If there is a way to root the version you have, you can do that when it's published. I'm wondering if the whole pre-release thing was a ploy to get the dev community to find any holes in the update so they could plug them in the final release, especially with the new jailbreaking legalities.
If the real update is rootable, you just wait and update then. I would stay where you are if you don't really need to update to the final release.
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I'd wait. If there is a way to root the version you have, you can do that when it's published. I'm wondering if the whole pre-release thing was a ploy to get the dev community to find any holes in the update so they could plug them in the final release, especially with the new jailbreaking legalities.
If the real update is rootable, you just wait and update then. I would stay where you are if you don't really need to update to the final release.
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I kinda doubt that they were looking for root exploits with the leak, simply not enough time. I would bet they were just seeing if this broke anything spectacularly or not, basically a release candidate more than anything more malicious.
Do you want to root eventually?
If so, staying where you are keeps your chances higher. You can always upgrade, can't go back though.
If you don't care i'd update. Watch to see if htc says anything about your process to update again.
Also, if everything works fine right now, you could wait and watch what devs do.
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I should have specified but my intentions are to root in the future (if possible). And HTC did release a statement on their twitter saying that the unofficial users would free an official update to get "back on track". Whether or not that is what is coming out tomorrow is unknown...
DanBergundy said:
Do you want to root eventually?
If so, staying where you are keeps your chances higher. You can always upgrade, can't go back though.
If you don't care i'd update. Watch to see if htc says anything about your process to update again.
Also, if everything works fine right now, you could wait and watch what devs do.
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Nobody has released a root method for the update yet, thus HTC won't really know what holes to close. if there is a method I'm sure they are keeping it hush hush so as NOT to alert HTC of any holes, plus if the Official update isn't rootable (slim chance the devs will figure something out) then they still have the Unofficial to work with, so stay with the unofficial and you definitly have more options, whether you need all those options is yours to decide!!
Then wait. Two chances are better than one.
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I am switching from a nexus one on at&t. I love that damn phone, but hate the network now that i am in AZ. so i am gonna switch to verizon and get the incredible since it is getting cyanogenmod. I have read that on the EVO there have been OTA patches that block rooting from occuring. I wanted to make sure that there have not been any of those types of OTA updates for the incredible. I just want to be sure before i order one that i won't be stuck with a locked phone. thanks guys.
Bad timing considering OTA is around the corner for 2.2. You best bet is to shoot to a verizon store ask to see the phone and check the build before you purchase.
so as long as it still has 2.1 i should be good? that it pretty simple. correct?
correct. From what we are seeing now, there is a good chance that 2.2 will close all access blocking the ability to root.
That update has not come yet, but will soon.
Hurry!!
well i had to order it because no one in the area has them in stock, no surprise. i really hope that it doesn't come with 2.2 preinstalled. with all the leaks i'm afraid it will. i'm a little unsure about whether it is possible to downgrade. i know on a nexus i could push either a nandroid or system.img downgrade. is that possible without root? i'm guessing no but wondering if i could get a definitive yes or no
Hi, well over the past week I have noticed a bump or some sort of spot on the bottom of my evo. I have root and all that good stuff but it is really annoying and I want to take it to the store.
Does anyone one know what is the best way to take the phone back?
I mean I know I have to flash the ruu but I don't want the Sprint people to update the phone to 2.2 since I want root.
Thanks
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There are plenty of threads detailing how to unroot and go back to stock. Find them.
As for keeping 2.1, if you have to exchange your phone you're going to be waiting for the luck of the draw. Some stores have older phones in stock with 2.1, but new ones are shipping with 2.2, so the longer you wait the worse your chances of finding a new 2.1. If they are able to service it, just tell them not to update the phone as you're concerned that the new update is not stable and you have seen several reports of decreased performance. They can't FORCE you to take it. Just make it clear when you hand the phone over, maybe even get them to sign a note.
There's sure to be a 2.2 rooting method soon enough, though, so you won't be out in the cold forever. Or, failing that, a way to root Gingerbread. . . .
Yes don't worry they will release root for 2.2 very soon
We're all trying to be really patient with the status of our phone S-Off, and I was thinking about the update that may (or may not) be coming to our phone. I am personally not going to update when it comes out, just to be on the safe side. alpharev is obviously doing good work for us behind the scenes, and I don't want to screw up my opportunity to get S-Off and root when they release; on the off chance that an update might prevent that from happening.
Obviously, this is just my paranoia kicking in, but I've seen some people on HTC FB that are claiming that they updated, and now can't root. Thoughts?
lol, ease off the crack rock budy, it will be here any day. I havent heard any news of an update comeing the next few days anyways, so you wont have a choice most likely.
The unlock is rumored to be released "soon" (within a week was mentioned, but probably a bit optimistic), while the next update is rumored to be August (this is only a couple months away, btw). Keep in mind these are rumors.
AlphaRev will likely want to break the update to maintain device compatibility so more than likely they will keep up.
bod1ggity said:
lol, ease off the crack rock budy, it will be here any day. I havent heard any news of an update comeing the next few days anyways, so you wont have a choice most likely.
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Not sure how I'm on the pipe? I'm just saying that I'm not going to install the update right away if I have a choice. Thanks though.
I was wondering about the GPS fix that HTC is working on for the Dinc2. What if we are rooted and that is pushed out? What happens then?
mountaineerndixie said:
I was wondering about the GPS fix that HTC is working on for the Dinc2. What if we are rooted and that is pushed out? What happens then?
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Someone will dump the updated rom, and make it available for rooted users. The only way this update can mess something up is if HTC decides to fix the exploit that currently allows the phone to be rooted... but from what they have stated publicly, they are moving away from that direction and mind set (thank god).
Eventually a DEV will incorporate all the fixes that the OTA update has into their ROM/stock ROM, whatever. and I think it's great we have a recovery ready for when alpha drops the S-OFF. it's better than getting S-OFF and having no way to flash anything..
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lol, ease off the crack rock budy, it will be here any day. I havent heard any news of an update comeing the next few days anyways, so you wont have a choice most likely.
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Just quoting you again, and bumping the thread, in case you missed this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15053499#post15053499
Once rooted, a RUU can be torn apart and made into a root friendly ROM. We can still get all of the benefits of updates even if they do patch exploits.
Hey guys and girls just joined the site been looking around and reading alot of interesting things.
Like the title says im running 4.1.2 but i hear there might be a release of 4.2 coming the 20th?
I'm wanting to root my phone and join the club. I'm pretty much a newb when it come to this I want to make sure i do everything right when i start the process i'm a truck driver so my phone is a important part of my day to day activity and cant end up bricking my phone.
Ive been looking at youtube vids and reading comments some people having problems and some doing just fine.
Could someone recommend a link one with a video to show the process that would be great, should i wait for a over the air update to 4.2
Sprint won't be going to 4.2 . They are bypassing and the upcoming update will be 4.3. I would wate until the update comes out before you root. That way the roms and rooters will be able to be written and hou can have all the perks of an official 4.3
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I disagree. I would root now. It's possible with any OTA update, it could secure the root exploit. And nothing has been really said when any update is coming. Could be a couple weeks or a couple months.
And if you're rooted already, you'll only need to wait a day or two before someone uploads a rooted version of the update to flash.
Plus, if you fubar something, it's likely already been done and you'll be able to find a fix.
And if you do depend on your phone, it's hard to say what things may get borked with the update. So by waiting those few days for the updated rom, you'll find out what is not working and can decide if updating is right for you. Sometimes updates will bork things like GPS.
Personally, I don't see anything you really gain by waiting.
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Sprint won't be going to 4.2 . They are bypassing and the upcoming update will be 4.3. I would wate until the update comes out before you root. That way the roms and rooters will be able to be written and hou can have all the perks of an official 4.3
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I disagree. I would root now. It's possible with any OTA update, it could secure the root exploit. And nothing has been really said when any update is coming. Could be a couple weeks or a couple months.
And if you're rooted already, you'll only need to wait a day or two before someone uploads a rooted version of the update to flash.
Plus, if you fubar something, it's likely already been done and you'll be able to find a fix.
And if you do depend on your phone, it's hard to say what things may get borked with the update. So by waiting those few days for the updated rom, you'll find out what is not working and can decide if updating is right for you. Sometimes updates will bork things like GPS.
Personally, I don't see anything you really gain by waiting.
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Ditto on rooting before an update. Get root before the Knox **** hits your phone and your warranty is permanently b0rked. Once 4.3 and Knox is on your phone, if you ever root there's chance in hell of ever claiming on your warranty. More likely than not.
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What happened with the link being removed for the toolkit download? I watched the video on post #4 seems to be easiest way to do this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956180
Is this still a good option for rooting the phone?
Any ideas?
Just got my 4.1.2 note today. Within an hour after bringing it home I found the old toolkit I rooted with my other note before I traded it. Why wait
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Not wanting to wait just want an instruction how to I'm a trucker with a lap top and never have Wi-Fi unless I'm at McDonald's so I don't get to check and download what I'm needing to.
Samsung apparently has sent out a final notification to all those enrolled in the Nougat Beta that there will be no more updates and that the beta ends officially on December 30th and that they will attempt to push out the official update to everyone in January. Hope this means they were able to quash all major bugs.
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-receive-nougat-update-january
And it is officially Android 7.1.1, at least for those in the US.
Hopefully we get it soon, I would love some Nougat. At this point I prefer to not have to root my phone to get updates because it's a hassle without being able to unlock the bootloader. I was rooted for awhile and IMHO stock runs butter unless you spend hours customizing it. I love debloating but I would prefer a fully unlocked/rooted phone to a partial solution.
I don't have high hopes for when we get this updated because of verizon but we eventually will, about 2 years after everyone else
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Hopefully we get it soon, I would love some Nougat. At this point I prefer to not have to root my phone to get updates because it's a hassle without being able to unlock the bootloader. I was rooted for awhile and IMHO stock runs butter unless you spend hours customizing it. I love debloating but I would prefer a fully unlocked/rooted phone to a partial solution.
I don't have high hopes for when we get this updated because of verizon but we eventually will, about 2 years after everyone else
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I haven't been rooted for over a year. I was on an LG G3 before my S7 and so far, I haven't found a real need to root. Before, I rooted because I used TiBu to backup my apps, but with the G3, they had their own backup utility that worked just like TiBu, but it's only for LG devices.
But with how Google Play uploads settings now, that appears to work just fine for me as well, so at this point, I have no reason to root. Plus, I really love Samsung Pay so I don't want to lose that.
This is the first device I have owned that I have never rooted. No need to. Faster than anything I have ever owned and mine never slows down for my usage. It's the first device that I feel works as intended. I also wasted a few years of my life with this stuff and just don't have the motivation anymore. Especially without an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery, I'd never.
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This is the first device I have owned that I have never rooted. No need to. Faster than anything I have ever owned and mine never slows down for my usage. It's the first device that I feel works as intended. I also wasted a few years of my life with this stuff and just don't have the motivation anymore. Especially without an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery, I'd never.
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Agree completely. The root process works well etc but I had to go through xposed and do a lot of tweaks to get it running well for really no gain over what I had stock.
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This is the first device I have owned that I have never rooted. No need to. Faster than anything I have ever owned and mine never slows down for my usage. It's the first device that I feel works as intended. I also wasted a few years of my life with this stuff and just don't have the motivation anymore. Especially without an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery, I'd never.
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I completely agree. The G3 was the first phone I ended up not rooting. I did at first because I was just in that mode of, get a new phone, root, flash a custom ROM. But as I started getting used to a lot of the features, and found that the battery life wasn't bad, coupled with running Greenify in non-root mode, I could make the battery last 1.5 days. So, over the last year of the two years I owned it, I didn't root.
With the S7, no need to root. This is smoothest phone I've had yet. The quality of the phone itself is excellent. So, this phone will not be rooted.
It appears the official Nougat OTA is being pushed out, with beta testers getting it first.
Anyone on here that has gotten the Nougat OTA notification yet? I'm holding off on accepting until I know better on how it performs, etc.
http://www.androidcentral.com/stabl...ing-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-starting-beta-users
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It appears the official Nougat OTA is being pushed out, with beta testers getting it first.
Anyone on here that has gotten the Nougat OTA notification yet? I'm holding off on accepting until I know better on how it performs, etc.
http://www.androidcentral.com/stabl...ing-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-starting-beta-users
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Nothing on my end yet.
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was there ever a second beta OTA sent out to Verizon testers? I didn't get into the beta but side loaded the only 7.0 beta build OTA that was floating around and my build number is NRD90M.G930VVRU4ZPK4. Was there an update to after that? Trying to figure out if the Nougate beta -> final OTA (assuming someone pulls it) will work on my phone or if I'll need to find the intermediary beta OTAs or else wipe clean and start from scratch.
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was there ever a second beta OTA sent out to Verizon testers? I didn't get into the beta but side loaded the only 7.0 beta build OTA that was floating around and my build number is NRD90M.G930VVRU4ZPK4. Was there an update to after that? Trying to figure out if the Nougate beta -> final OTA (assuming someone pulls it) will work on my phone or if I'll need to find the intermediary beta OTAs or else wipe clean and start from scratch.
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I believe there were only two betas for VZW phones and then they cancelled the beta testing for VZW-based phones. Not sure why. Kind of sucks. Probably Big Red had something to do with it.
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Nothing on my end yet.
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Same here, tried rebooting and checking again a few times and still nothing.
Oh well
I spoke to Verizon about this and they dont know when the update will be out.
SoerenHelmer said:
I spoke to Verizon about this and they dont know when the update will be out.
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Of course they don't. They have to add crapware, disable a bunch of stuff and add backdoors.
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I spoke to Verizon about this and they dont know when the update will be out.
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That's their usual response.
I've read US-Based carriers have no ETA yet. Grr.
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I've read US-Based carriers have no ETA yet. Grr.
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I swear searching around the interwebs for information on release dates has at least as much mis-information as looking for information on the election candidates during the election. So much trash.
But I haven't found anyone stating they heard definite dates. I'm thinking it will be late January at this point maybe early Feb before it hits our phones.
i have given up speculating anything that involves verizon. nothing would surprise me.
Take it where its coming from but it looks like some US non-beta testers are starting to see the update. "Unlocked" phones only but still....
http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/19/14321980/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-android-nougat-update
I have an official unlocked US model, but nothing yet. I expect to see the update by the weekend. Crossing fingers.
lickwid said:
I have an official unlocked US model, but nothing yet. I expect to see the update by the weekend. Crossing fingers.
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I believe unlocked models should be getting it before us on Verizon. But, there was a story out that stated OTAs for some reason have stopped being pushed out and Samsung has acknowledged this and is looking into why it happened.
http://www.droidviews.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-android-nougat-problems-firmware-delivery-stops/
Whether the "bug" is in the firmware itself or with the update process that sends out the notifications is not mentioned.