Best ROM - Radio combination for best battery? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I'm going to holidays soon and I want my Desire to last as long as it can...
At the moment I'm running Modaco r6 Froyo with Sense with the radio 42.52.00.32U_5.09.00.08 and battery drain is not bad, but it can be better. It lasts about 24 hours with mid usage...
The ROM that I'm using is not supporting the UVOC kernel so I can NOT use SetCPU to optimize battery drain...
So I'm ready to go back to 2.1 if I'm going to have a better battery drain!
My requirements are: it must have HTC Sense and the included Dialer/Contacts app (so please no stock ROMS)
And it would be great if my batter could last more than 2 days without charge..
Any feedback ?

d3sm0nd said:
Hi all,
I'm going to holidays soon and I want my Desire to last as long as it can...
At the moment I'm running Modaco r6 Froyo with Sense with the radio 42.52.00.32U_5.09.00.08 and battery drain is not bad, but it can be better. It lasts about 24 hours with mid usage...
The ROM that I'm using is not supporting the UVOC kernel so I can NOT use SetCPU to optimize battery drain...
So I'm ready to go back to 2.1 if I'm going to have a better battery drain!
My requirements are: it must have HTC Sense and the included Dialer/Contacts app (so please no stock ROMS)
And it would be great if my batter could last more than 2 days without charge..
Any feedback ?
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All the SenseUI ROM's are pretty much the same as they're all based on the same source and have the same kernel, it's totally up to you which one you prefer though, I'd go for the one with the least bloat.
Also I'm using the same radio as you and get a very decent battery running OpenDesire.
May I ask why you don't want a stock ROM?

dnlgee said:
All the SenseUI ROM's are pretty much the same as they're all based on the same source and have the same kernel, it's totally up to you which one you prefer though, I'd go for the one with the least bloat.
Also I'm using the same radio as you and get a very decent battery running OpenDesire.
May I ask why you don't want a stock ROM?
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I just love the HTC Dialer, Contacts and SMS app... and sadly they can not be installed on a stock rom.

Try the one shown in my signature.

SimonCraddock said:
Try the one shown in my signature.
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It's based on the leak same as the ROM i'm using and you can not flash a custom kernel to use SetCPU to save battery.

d3sm0nd said:
It's based on the leak same as the ROM i'm using and you can not flash a custom kernel to use SetCPU to save battery.
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Not going to get any OCUV on a leaked SenseUI ROM unfortunately, you can just install SetCPU and underclock the kernel though.

42.52.00.32U_5.09.00.08 works great on OpenDesire and Official Froyo HTC Sense v1.0c by OD team, and also LeeDroid v1.6, in my experience so far.

dnlgee said:
Not going to get any OCUV on a leaked SenseUI ROM unfortunately, you can just install SetCPU and underclock the kernel though.
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Hmm.. didn't knew that this will work! Will try the ROM that SimonCraddock said... i see good feedback in the thread for battery life.

ryanrich said:
42.52.00.32U_5.09.00.08 works great on OpenDesire and Official Froyo HTC Sense v1.0c by OD team, and also LeeDroid v1.6, in my experience so far.
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What's the difference between them?

I vote neophyte 1.3
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

cenkaan said:
What's the difference between them?
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The first two I mentioned are very similar but OD is stock Froyo and the other has Sense.
LeeDroid was good but I had an issue that kept creeping up. Might have been one of my apps or widgets though because others haven't reported it. I just find with OpenDesire I have a nice clean, fast and stable ROM with no bloatware and good battery life, and I love the development that Adam puts into it...

ryanrich said:
... I love the development that Adam puts into it...
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So for the thread-opener:
Use "Official Froyo HTC Sense ROM by OpenDesire Team"
It´s from the OpenDesire developer (think he really knows what he does) and it`s not full of stuff nobody needs. A clean, fast, stable FROYO SENSE...
(I`m using it myself)

I use "Official Froyo HTC Sense ROM by OpenDesire Team" with radio 42.52.00.32U_5.09.00.08 and last night I lost 20% in 6.5 hours with doing nothing. When I looked the next morning what drained my battery "Batteryinfo" told me the Android system. 3G was on that 6.5 hours.
20% in 6.5 hours, I don't think that's good...

bigmouth66 said:
I use "Official Froyo HTC Sense ROM by OpenDesire Team" with radio 42.52.00.32U_5.09.00.08 and last night I lost 20% in 6.5 hours with doing nothing. When I looked the next morning what drained my battery "Batteryinfo" told me the Android system. 3G was on that 6.5 hours.
20% in 6.5 hours, I don't think that's good...
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That's not the ROM, it's some or other application or mod that you have installed. I have experienced this same thing on quite a few different ROM's now and it's always related to something not working correctly with that specific ROM. Do some testing though, full wipe, install ROM, don't restore any of your apps, mods or widgets, and monitor the battery life over an hour or two with the phone on standby...
When I was on Official Froyo my phone lost about 4% over 6 hours on standby with 3G and everything on...

Any non sense ROM with latest radio. Did once 3 days with opendesire. Now I use cyanogen RC1. Also seems to be very battery friendly.
Be sure to use as little widgets as possible, I only use power control and retro clock.
If you want to save even more use the night vision mode in cyanogen.

ryanrich said:
That's not the ROM, it's some or other application or mod that you have installed. I have experienced this same thing on quite a few different ROM's now and it's always related to something not working correctly with that specific ROM. Do some testing though, full wipe, install ROM, don't restore any of your apps, mods or widgets, and monitor the battery life over an hour or two with the phone on standby...
When I was on Official Froyo my phone lost about 4% over 6 hours on standby with 3G and everything on...
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Thanks! I now saw that my Twitter was updating every 15 min. Put it on 1 hour now. Will check again tonight. Will kill all apps first with the system info app and hopefully I will have a better result tomorrow

dnlgee said:
Not going to get any OCUV on a leaked SenseUI ROM unfortunately, you can just install SetCPU and underclock the kernel though.
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Not sure it's true. Take a look at this one: http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/312051/oclock-custom-rom/
(can't say much about battery life because I use my phone very intensive so I don't expect it to last more than 12 hours but it does seem better than with stock Sense ROM).

I`ve tested many many many ROMs (OpenDesire, DeFroST, LeeDroid etc.) and with the last one (OD 2.4a) i had strong battery drain >1% every two minutes in standby, airplane mode! No apps in backround, undervolted and underclocked to 699 MHz.
Today I have flashed radio v.5.09.00.08 and Official FroyoSense from OD Team AND wiped Battery stats from Recovery Menu.
... voila! 3G on, no setCPU, synchronization every 4 hour, everything else same as in OD 2.4a = 3% (average) lost in one hour!
IMHO this is the best radio/rom combination ever had!

Where can I download the 42.52.00.32U_5.09.00.08 Radio?

Right there

Related

Make no sense Rom like sense Rom

Hello to all,
I have tried the opendesire Rom and it's really really fast and is the best I think for gaming but I love sense, his widget, and better application such as calendar,
Music player, camera app dialer and Facebook integration with contact!
So my question is if is possible and how make a non sense Rom like sense with almost or all features of sense.theme style included of course.
Thanks to all
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
Launcher pro + has some identical widgets, you can try n use it instead...
How about a sense ROm without the keyboard, txt, contact and phone app. Leave those stock Android and hopefully have the Sense widgets.
So you want a very fast stable rom but has sense?
OD with launcherpro is proberly nearest. HTC havent released alot of the froyo source codes (for Desire) so most of the optimisations are just from a base Sense rom.
This means, there isn't alot of tuning ie. UVOC.
Can result in alot of bugs. Like removing the filling from a cake. Gonna get a bit messy.
Pinky's rom is the one i'm using atm, based on MCR if i remember....
Very stable, fast. Some issues with battery, but a bit of tuning to setCPU and your fine.
Apart from that, it does the job nicely.
I've been switching between Pinkys and OD lately. Just cant live without the sense camera, the dialer, and the incoming call screen. But OD does have the speed, battery life, stability and is a bit more "open" thanks to google passing out source codes with every happymeal.
Also, both OD and Pinky have updates available through RomManager, so you can always stay up to date
Now I have nextsense Rom and is very fast but is impossible to oc and don't have the gpu drivers that in most case can make the difference when playing heavy and not optimized games.
But I really don't like vanilla theme of od!!!and HTC has made a wonderful job with their app such as camera contacts calendar etc etc....
So it's a very big hard choice!
Whit launcherpro what can I do?
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Same here. Can't live with out HTC apps. But got a big problem with battery life while using sense roms.
What i am looking for is a Sense Rom with the best battery life? Anyone can suggest one?
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ngay29 said:
Same here. Can live with out HTC apps. But got a big problem with battery life while using sense roms.
What i am looking for is a Sense Rom with the best battery life? Anyone can suggest one?
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Give Pays a try, with the radio version in my sig. I'm finding it very good...
I have very good Battery Life with newest Radio and Modaco r8
ryanrich said:
Give Pays a try, with the radio version in my sig. I'm finding it very good...
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Whats your avg battery life with usage?
twist1234 said:
Whats your avg battery life with usage?
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Battery life will vary completely between users but mine is around 24 - 32 hours with heavy usage...
ryanrich said:
Battery life will vary completely between users but mine is around 24 - 32 hours with heavy usage...
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care to describe your heavy usage pattern?

[Q] Q about rom with best battery life

Which rom provides the best and longest battery life?
Now that all depends on what you want the rom for.
Do you want HTC Sense? Android Stock? AOSP?
Then the kernels you use have a dramatic difference, and the Radio which can be used.
Personally I'm on:
Rom - Oxygen 1.0.4 (AOSP)
Radio - 32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30
Kernel - 2.6.35.9-vorkKernel [email protected] #1
And from all this, depending on how I use the rom.. On a busy day I'll get near 15 hours battery life, and on a quiet time, I can get around 30-40 hours, and all that,without using SetCpu.
So you've got to look at quite a lot of options. Also depends on what apps you use, and widgets, brightness etc.
Not much help but that's my setup and how it works personally for me.
Dan
Swyped from my Deoxygenated HTC Desire
I have tried Miui and also defrost but i didn't know that the kernel was that important.
Could you sugest other rom's? It doesnt matter AOSP or any other
If you keep to the radio which I mentioned in the earlier post.. I do suggest that you try sense roms: LeeDroid's rom, stable and fantastic, as is AuraxTSense tbh, though I'm not keen on the way that rom looks and can drain the battery quite a bit. Oxygen is also a fantastic AOSP rom, as is Cyanogen. DeFrost is good also, similar to Cyanogen mind.
I have never tried any MIUI roms so I can't suggest.
If you're willing to look on other forums, I suggest looking at http://android.modaco.com/ and go to the Desire section and have a look at some of the Sense and NO-Sense roms on there, they are also good for lack of drain.
Stick to the radio I mentioned and you won't go wrong mate . Most kernels released with the roms have been made specifically for that rom and usually will be the best that there is already, so don't worry yourself about that too much.
Dan
Swyped from my Deoxygenated HTC Desire
Thank you very much my friend.
Anyone else got ideas for a rom with good battery?

ROM recommendations

Hi,
I have a HTC Desire Z and I'm currently using the Vision Sense 1.82.405.1 Untouched ROM. I'm also thinking of trying out other ROMs, particularly those that are based on Gingerbread (though I admit I don't fully know what advantages Gingerbread has over Froyo).
I'm generally happy with the phone as it is now, but my main gripes are its speed - it lags noticeably sometimes - and battery life - I get about a day at most, and by that I mean from the time I wake up to the time I sleep, not 24hrs).
Are there any comparisons/writeups on what the various ROMs offer, and how they're different from one another?
Thanks.
I'm running Blackdroidmod 3.3.0 with stock Radio, set the governer @ Interactive min 386mhz and max 1016mhz and I'm using LauncherPro (plus) instead of the stock/ADW launcher. I love it and I reach 20 hours easily with moderate usage.
(2~ 4 calls/day, average of 10 texts, lots of whatsapp messages and activesync @ 2 accounts + 2 x pop3 accounts polling every hour, fb polling every 15 mins, weather sync every 2 hours, some gaming and listening to mp3) and it's always smooth (806mhz max is enough if you don't use multiple apps at the same time).
It's stable and everything works right away from the first time I flashed it. CM7.0 is good... but isn't very stable in my opinion and misses some applications while Blackdroidmod looks a bit like Sense.
goister said:
Hi,
I'm also thinking of trying out other ROMs, particularly those that are based on Gingerbread (though I admit I don't fully know what advantages Gingerbread has over Froyo).
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Really not much, if you are a Sense fan. Google fixed a bunch of aesthetic/theming stuff, and improved the keyboard. Most of which is moot, since HTC themes mostly override the theme changes, and HTC uses their own keyboard. There may be some performance improvements or bug fixes. But in running both Froyo and GB ROMs, I didn't notice much performance difference. This might be due to the fact that most of the current Gingerbread ROMs are ports from other phones, or based on the leaked Desire Z test ROM. But I have not tried the recent G2 (no Sense) leaked test ROM, which is supposed to be pretty fast.
HTC Sense really slows down the phone, so a move to any ROM without Sense will probably improve your performance. Alternately, the lag you are noticing is probably due to the Sense launcher, which seems to be a CPU and memory hog. Try another launcher, like ADW or Launcher Pro, and you will probably find it improves performance quite a bit. You will lose the HTC widgets, but retain some of the nice HTC features, like the camera.
Getting a "waking day" (charge overnight) out of a modern smartphone is pretty normal. Of course, it completely depends on how much you use your phone. But with moderate use, I have yet to get more than a day, on various ROMs and radios. I can get 24 hours+ on very light use. What is your screen brightness set to? The screen brightness is actually one of the biggest battery drain culprits. If its on auto, turn that off, and reduce the brightness to the lowest setting you find usable/tolerable. Mine is on 35%. Just going from auto to a lower setting can improve battery life quite a bit.
If you like sense, I've found the battery life on the Trollogen Mod 0.9.1 to be SPECTACULAR. So far it's given me the best battery life out of all the ROMs I've tried. That includes Virtuous with the advanced kernel and multiple SetCPU profiles and the stock Gingerbread ROMs.
I tried running the battery down last night at a friends place for laughs and left music running on Wi-Fi with full brightness. I was constantly turning the screen on and looking at websites and so forth and by the time I got home (6 hours later) it had only just hit 67%. What's surprising is I didn't need a custom kernel or to modify it with SetCPU
Wow, 3 replies, 3 different suggestions. This is gonna be tough...
So far I've only heard of Virtuous, GingerVillian and Cyanogenmod, never heard of the others.
Oh I forgot to mention I'd like something that's stable as well, I've noticed things crash/reload quite a bit currently.
Trollogen is still a beta but its fairly stable as far as I can see. But if stability is really an issue you should stick with virtuous and install a new kernel on it.
My suggestion for a stable rom would be Virtuous with the advanced kernel. With 1.0.2 OCed to 1.3GHz and stock battery,i got about 16hrs of life with moderate use. Replaced with mugen 1800mAh and now can get 20hrs with moderate use and 30hrs with light use.
Havent used CM or TGM yet, but SenseGinger goes have some bugs in it which turned me away before. I would probably stick with a Froyo release until the official 2.3 rom gets released by HTC.
Happy flashing
Sent from my Virtuous Desire Z 1.0.2 using XDA App
Lately there have been so many new ports, it's hard to keep up...but I do! (But mostly with Sense) Flash something new very night, but I always keep coming back to virtuous 1.0.2 with advanced kernel 2.2.0.
Everything just works, always (except HTC calendar widget disappears after a reboot, for some reason). Very speedy for sense, and being able to overclock pushes it into a winning position for me versus the gingerbread sense roms.
Xboarder56's stock gingerbread worked pretty well for me while I was on it for a couple of days. Worth a try!
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
OK, thanks. Perhaps I'll try Virtuous. Are there any step by step guides to flash Virtuous ROM into my Desire Z, and what's the advanced kernel 2.2.0? Don't all Android use Linux kernel 2.6.x?
Thanks again.
Edit: OK I assume the Advanced Kernel 2.2.0 is what's found in the Virtuous kernel 2.x page here.
What if I want to install a Gingerbread kernel? I see there's a Gingerbread folder here with either glite or sense. What are these?
Both Virtuous G-lite and Fusion have OC kernels and shouldn't have to flash a new one on install. Just have to get SetCPU or CPUTuner to enable the OC, both up to 1.5GHz.
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goister said:
OK, thanks. Perhaps I'll try Virtuous. Are there any step by step guides to flash Virtuous ROM into my Desire Z, and what's the advanced kernel 2.2.0? Don't all Android use Linux kernel 2.6.x?
Thanks again.
Edit: OK I assume the Advanced Kernel 2.2.0 is what's found in the Virtuous kernel 2.x page here.
What if I want to install a Gingerbread kernel? I see there's a Gingerbread folder here with either glite or sense. What are these?
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G-Lite is a Gingerbread ROM, with no Sense. Fusion is a port of Gingerbread (from another phone), with Sense 3.0. Sense 3.0 has some cool new features, but the launcher takes up most of the phone's memory (our phone is not meant to run Sense 3.0, and we won't be getting it "officially" for this reason). Just about every time you go back to the launcher home, it needs to reload the launcher, which is annoying. There are also some graphical glitches. So I found Fusion fun to play with for a while, but I'm back on Froyo, probably until the official Sense ROM for our device is released (and a rooted version is posted here).
If you want Sense, stability and usability, the "original" Virtuous is probably what you want. Its easy to install. You can download straight in ROM Manager, and flash from there. You might not have to do a full wipe, since you are coming from a stock Froyo Sense ROM. But if you have any issues, you should probably wipe (dalvik, cache, and data) and flash again. Also, do a nandroid/clockwork backup of your current ROM, before you flash Virtuous, in case you have the need or desire to return to your current setup. ROM Manager will give you the choice to backup the current ROM when you go to flash Virtuous.
Virtuous comes overclocked to 1 GHz by default. The advanced kernel gives additional overclocking options (up to 1.51 GHz), that's all. Advanced kernel pretty much requires you to setup screen-off profiles with SetCPU (or similar app) or you will (AFAIK) almost certainly have issues with the screen waking. So you might not want to mess with it, and to stick with the default/included kernel, unless you are really interested in OC speeds over 1 GHz.
The Virtuous Gingerbread kernel allows overclocking of G-Lite and Fusion. They can't be used with the "regular" (Froyo based) Virtuous. Vice versa is also true.
But really, there isn't a whole lot that Virtuous actually gives you in addition to stock. You can flash the Godspeed kernel on the stock ROM, if you want to overclock. Virtuous also has trackpad wake, which is very cool. But again, you can do this mod on the stock ROM. So modding the stock ROM to your liking may be another option.
The insertcoin rom is another half way house option. It is Sense 2.1 based with some 3.0 bits added.
It is still a bit more memory intensive than stock, but it does have the very cool lockscreen, which is one of my main reasons for sticking with it. That and the CRT animations always keep me happy.
I have been using it as my daily driver for a while now.
Does G-Lite is a stable rom for G2 ?
Im searching for a stable, overclockable Rom based on 2.3
I read about CM7, and looks with so many issues on gps, etc..
Does G-Lite is stable and gps, bluetooth, youtube, etc works ?
Also, I need a tip, or a feature. I need to use a Rom (or chance any config) to put the Navigator voice on Brazilian Portuguese.
CM have this, but with the problems on GPS.
Any ideia ?
If you want something other then a Sense Rom. You could try meXdroid. It is stable and fast. It is a Gingerbread Rom (2.3.4) I have been using his roms for a while now. The dev and his team theme out the rom. Here is a link to meXdroid rom with screen shots. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886184
I dont like sense.
Im searching for a stock android rom.
pyromod 2.0 with smartass...1.5ghz and great batt life
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angusbrasil said:
I dont like sense.
Im searching for a stock android rom.
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meXdroid is not a Sense Rom. It just has a theme. Look at the link in the post above. You can see a few screen shots of the Rom there. You can overclock meXdroid to 1.5 ghz also. You really don't need to though. It is fast at 800 mhz. I know Quadrant does not mean a lot but at 800 mhz my scores are 2500+ and at 1.2 ghz my scores are 3000+.
it wasnt the ghz i was impressed by it was tje batt life to go with it...but ill try to post in the right section next time..lol..sorry
pimped out g2
smokeuout said:
it wasnt the ghz i was impressed by it was tje batt life to go with it...but ill try to post in the right section next time..lol..sorry
pimped out g2
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Oh no no. My post was not to say anything about your post. I was just stating as you did that meXdroid can overclock also. You can post here all you want. This is a question in the Q&A section not in the meXdroid thread. Your all good. Have a good one.
hey alright...it was the right section...lol..no im new to posting so im still learnin the areas and such...b seriously PYROMOD 2.0
pimped out g2

Rom for everyday use

It's been a while where ppl always compare the best desire rom out there... let's discuss what rom u guys recommended for everyday use... I'm currently using Oxygen rom, fast stable and hell lot of spaces, and since i'm starting to use 3G, i gonna switch to sense rom, needed sense widget and stuff, might get insertcoin rom... what about u guys?
I'm currently using InsertCoin Sense 2.1/3.0 1.1.4 and although it is great to look at, I perhaps wouldn't recommend it for everyday use as in the new version I have been experiencing some lag and unfortunately (and probably most importantly) it hasn't been too great with battery life.. although I haven't used SetCPU to try and improve it.
I would almost be tempted to go for a FROYO based ROM, but I think what you'll have to do is test a few and see how they perform for you.
I'm running InsertCoin 1.1.4 as well and I'm having a blast. It does lag every now and then, but my battery life's brilliant - I usually have about 30% left when I go to bed. I'm probably not the heaviest user on the planet, though.
I'm using SetCPU though, so that might be why. It's set to 499-1190 (smartassV2) with a Screen Off rule for 245-460. Seems to do the trick.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040121
Use this one, yesterday coolexe did fabulous update.. EVERYTHING is working perfectly, including camera and flash.
It's Sense 3.0 ROM (not 2.1 + 3.0) and its just fast as 2.1, i was shocked when tried it for a first time.
TBH it's atm. best Sense 3 ROM in Desire section, and i tried all of them.
I'm using stock HBOOT InsertCoin 1.1.4, working well for me.
I'm using my own Rom with custom hboot
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k3lcior said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040121
Use this one, yesterday coolexe did fabulous update.. EVERYTHING is working perfectly, including camera and flash.
It's Sense 3.0 ROM (not 2.1 + 3.0) and its just fast as 2.1, i was shocked when tried it for a first time.
TBH it's atm. best Sense 3 ROM in Desire section, and i tried all of them.
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gotta agree, it's really nice and smooth rom. check it out. but insert coin is ok also
Can highly recommend oxygen.
TouchPaled from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App
I've been experimenting with ROMs for a few months now. Here is what I've found:
1) The most stable, light, low power ROM that I've used is MIUI. It has everything you need out of the box.
2) If you don't like the MIUI interface (read: like an iPhone and Android combined), the next best is Redux 1.2. Very low power, but very basic. It is basically a shell as I didn't like a lot of the stock components. I had to get a new launcher, dialer, contact manager and SMS app.
3) Sense-based ROMs feel nice until the battery dies... which happens way too quickly. The stock ROM was the most stable for me, I just wanted Gingerbread. All of the Sense-based ROMs that were non-stock seemed to buggy for me.
I'm a computer engineer, so I don't mind playing around with technology, but MIUI and the stock ROM were the only ones that I'd recommend to somebody less technical (or somebody that just wants the smartphone to work and not have to constantly look for fixes and / or ways to make the phone work the way it should out of the box) for daily use.
Yes I'm using that Rom too and can't fault it. It's fast for a sense 3 Rom.
Currently on MIUI 1.8.26.
Cant comment on the batt yet since i just flashed this yesterday but hell yeah, its fast.....
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jdwright45 said:
1) The most stable, light, low power ROM that I've used is MIUI. It has everything you need out of the box.
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I have to say I disagree with almost all of that
It's based in cm7 so its one of the heaviest aosp Roms around.
To compare, miui xj, with my brutal stripping, I got down to 90MB bare bones. That's 30 MB bigger than dGB and 25MB bigger than redux in the same state.
Also imho, cm7 is heavier on battery, ergo so is miui. Redux is better power wise, although a miui custom kernel could help them there.
Out of interest what mA are you getting on 3g whilst idle?
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I am currently on IC 1.1.4 with newest noncallrec kernel. Works fine whereas 1.1.4 had some freeze issues, 1.1.3 worked perfect for me. No lags, no freeze, quite fast. I am also not a heavy user hence my bat lasts almost the whole day.
I'm on Cool3D AceS v2. Nice rom, fast and stable. Was using cyanogenmod, but was missing sense
chrismast said:
I am currently on IC 1.1.4 with newest noncallrec kernel. Works fine whereas 1.1.4 had some freeze issues, 1.1.3 worked perfect for me. No lags, no freeze, quite fast. I am also not a heavy user hence my bat lasts almost the whole day.
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Would you say that v1.1.3 is as smooth as Rc mix latest release? Just thinking of shifting to IC hence these questions
jackie_jagger said:
Would you say that v1.1.3 is as smooth as Rc mix latest release? Just thinking of shifting to IC hence these questions
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sorry, cannot compare IC with Rc as I never tried Rc. IC (CM7) runs fine, fast & stable (at least 1.1.3) for me so had no need to check any other rom till now.
chrismast said:
sorry, cannot compare IC with Rc as I never tried Rc. IC (CM7) runs fine, fast & stable (at least 1.1.3) for me so had no need to check any other rom till now.
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well as long as it works well - I think its worth a try - downloading it now !
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113070
For me, this is currently the best Sense experience on the desire. I am using the cm7 version.
You guys should try Oxygen with Oxygen hboot r2, u'll get hell lot of spaces! I tried going to insertcoin with CM7 hboot r2, end up having 88mb after installing all my apps without installing my games, but with my Oxygen rom, i have 148mb free, with 27 games in it... and it's very very smooth...
felix1318 said:
You guys should try Oxygen with Oxygen hboot r2, u'll get hell lot of spaces! I tried going to insertcoin with CM7 hboot r2, end up having 88mb after installing all my apps without installing my games, but with my Oxygen rom, i have 148mb free, with 27 games in it... and it's very very smooth...
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Thats kind of funny. Guess you didn't see my signature when I posted earlier then. I got 40MB on Oxygen

ARHD vs. InsertCoin vs. ViperX vs. Renovate

Hey guys
Currently I got MIUI installed on the incredible sexy HOX but want to change in hope to get better battery life and a more stable device.
Seems like I want to go with a sense-based ROM (the 4 mentioned in the title). I read through their changelog but can't really differentiate them....
so whats the difference between ARHD and InsertCoin?
ViperX seems to have some neat tweaks and mods/themes..... and Renovate is more or less a AOSP looking sense-rom... but how well do they perform on battery life and smoothness?
NeoCream said:
Hey guys
Currently I got MIUI installed on the incredible sexy HOX but want to change in hope to get better battery life and a more stable device.
Seems like I want to go with a sense-based ROM (the 4 mentioned in the title). I read through their changelog but can't really differentiate them....
so whats the difference between ARHD and InsertCoin?
ViperX seems to have some neat tweaks and mods/themes..... and Renovate is more or less a AOSP looking sense-rom... but how well do they perform on battery life and smoothness?
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Have u tried maximus 3.0 I have tried the per. Version and it is faaaaaaaaast with battery life improvement
ARHD : everything is stock nothing fancy
ViperX: if u want tweaks and customization there you have it.
IC : didn't try this ROM sorry but all I know is that it is like viper x but less tweaks
Advice: flash viperX + ROM cleaner + foux6m
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sharjackmission said:
Have u tried maximus 3.0 I have tried the per. Version and it is faaaaaaaaast with battery life improvement
ARHD : everything is stock nothing fancy
ViperX: if u want tweaks and customization there you have it.
IC : didn't try this ROM sorry but all I know is that it is like viper x but less tweaks
Advice: flash viperX + ROM cleaner + foux6m
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Thanks for your reply! I guess it also comes down which kernel I'm going to use... and foux6m might just be the winner!
AR-HD:
Most stable for me, everything works, it looks very solid, clean and nice, just like it was intended to look.
Battery is really great, it just works and that's what this ROM is supposed to do.
When I'm tired of other ROMs or get any problems with others this is what I flash back to, guaranteed to just work and be stable, if you need a reliable daily driver, I recommend you use this.
ViperX:
First of all, no offense to developers/designers but I really do hate the themed red looking icons and whatnot, and all of those other themed stuff but if you just use stock themes it's a great ROM with great tweaks that would suit the ROM to your needs, I've used this for a week but I noticed the battery wasn't really compared to AR-HD, if you depend on things like volume controls, tweaking the keyboard, removing the arrows or editing the status bar and assigning actions to the buttons I recommend this.
InsertCoin:
Used InsertCoin for a few days, I thought there would a nice amount of tweaks but I was disappointed, no offense to developers but with all those updates it seems like this ROM is kind of forced, nothing bad though.
Renovate:
First ROM I've flashed on my One X, the hybrid Sense/Senseless doesn't work for me though, if you really want something fast, I suggest you get an AOSP ROM.
After trial, must be ARHD
I was on ARHD, then moved to ViperX because of all the customization options. Didn’t notice much a of a difference in battery life. ARHD is good, but as far as customization goes, its no better than stock sense, unless you want to manually find various different mods and flash them through CWM. As for theming in ViperX, you don't have to use their color schemes and icons, I use the stock sense look (visually there is absolutely no difference).
I can fullly recommend ARHD :good:
ARHD will be coming with suite tools tweaks....might not be to the level of customizing like Viper X but still the best of both worlds if you ask me....
Viper rom is good but to bloated with all the tweaks....running it at the moment and i have to say it lags....not a lot but lags still were ARHD is buttery smooth...so i would say wait for the new version of ARHD mate
Goku80 said:
ARHD will be coming with suite tools tweaks....might not be to the level of customizing like Viper X but still the best of both worlds if you ask me....
Viper rom is good but to bloated with all the tweaks....running it at the moment and i have to say it lags....not a lot but lags still were ARHD is buttery smooth...so i would say wait for the new version of ARHD mate
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Thanks for the hint about the upcoming update with the tweaks. That was the one reason why I might had slipped ARHD... it did not offer many customization/tweaks options.
Now I just have to find a suitable kernel, probably going to try faux-kernel
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All Sense ROMs have the same battery life, I don't know who said that you can improve battery life but surely not by using Sense ROMs, they have all the same battery life, it only depends on your usage (and the kernel you use)
I changed to Viper X then went back to Insert Coin
Viper X has more tweaks and features than any rom i've seen. Only thing that bothered me is was it was not as smooth as some of the other roms
I went back to Insert Coin, it's the smoothest and most bug-free sense ROM i've used, also battery life seems slightly better than Viper X. Not as many tweaks but I hardly used any of the Viper tweaks anyway
I had the same dilema, tried them all even no-sense custom roms but now im back on official MIUI 2.8.17, for me by far best looking, performing and battery friendly. Also has better tweaks, theming options, and built-in security. Don't go for non official MIUI i had some major issues with few of them. Maybe they fixed them all but they lost my trust. And every friday new update
I download from here: http://www.roms.miui-pt.com/original/index.php?dir=
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gringoza said:
I had the same dilema, tried them all even no-sense custom roms but now im back on official MIUI 2.8.17, for me by far best looking, performing and battery friendly. Also has better tweaks, theming options, and built-in security. Don't go for non official MIUI i had some major issues with few of them. Maybe they fixed them all but they lost my trust. And every friday new update
I download from here: http://www.roms.miui-pt.com/original/index.php?dir=
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Interesting... so the new release 2.8.17 is a lot better? I used RD_MIUI version... and always had some issues with it.... like chinese fonts and battery drains or the annoying LBE-Guard...
Maybe I should let MIUI one more chance by installing the official-non tweaked version. I always thought that the tweaked version of like RD would boost significantly the performance and battery life of the device...
ARHD
I've been using ARHD since rooting my device and to be honest I didnt see any difference in battery life until I downloaded the final version of 6.3.1 with core droid suite tools... Remarkable difference from other test versions.
I'm using ViperX and a lot of the tweaks come in very handy. As far as battery life goes, I easily get 20 hours out of my device with no less than 4 hours of display time. This is with regular usage (whats app messages, some phone calls, Viber texting, taking pictures, pissing around on Flipboard, etc.).
I have not tried any other room but that's because I have not found a reason to switch to another one other than just to find out what they're like and once I get motivated enough, I will probably try the other ones
I guess my advice is to try them all out for at least a few battery cycles in order to see their full battery potential.
Whatever floats your boat, my man. There are plenty of ROMs and I'm sure you'll find one that you'll fall in love with.
ARHD has been the best for me so far. Quick, smooth, stable.
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I was on ARHD, then moved to ViperX because of all the customization options. Didn’t notice much a of a difference in battery life. ARHD is good, but as far as customization goes, its no better than stock sense, unless you want to manually find various different mods and flash them through CWM. As for theming in ViperX, you don't have to use their color schemes and icons, I use the stock sense look (visually there is absolutely no difference).
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What PhoenixFx said. I started out with Charmeleon (same team that made Viper) and was rather happy. Then updated to ViperX that i kept for over almost 2 months. Earlier this month I tried AR-HD 9.1, and currently running InsertCoin 9.2.0
First off, all roms are fast. You wont really notice any real difference between them as long as use same kernel. A difference of 2% in benchmarks is hardly noticeable in real world . Same goes for battery. It has more to do with kernel and settings than anything in roms.
Viper X is great rom. Its what (imo) a custom rom should be all about. OTA updates, tons of customizations, very stable. Its like stock when you want to or goes completely mad with red-theme (which i personally didnt like much). One big cudos here is the ability to adjust screen auto-brightness to lower values than default, much lower. That usually gave me a few hours extra at night.
Problem with ARHD is that it is just too stock. And with that in mind it becomes hard at times to see the point of having a custom rom (and losing OTA update options) so why not just go with stock rom? Thats what I was left with after about 10 days of using it. It was great as being first out with 2.17 base but after a couple days ViperX and IC also updated to same base.
InsertCoin is my current rom. Its not bad but I frankly dont see the point of it. To me, its like ViperX but lite.. minus OTA ability and too many updates that force full wipe twice a week. And it has a REALLY ANNOYING bootup sound, wtf is up with that?! Stable, for most part. But today i got stuck at lockscreen without any option to move the ring.. it got solved tho.
So here are my thoughts. I like ViperX because it is most different of stock sense roms. It lets me do lot of cool things right off the bat without ever going into recovery and flashing stuff manually.
Personally I'm back with stock for now which seems to be just as quick as the custom roms, and in some instances actually smoother. I think sometimes too many tweaks and add ons slow the phone down.
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InsertCoin is my current rom. Its not bad but I frankly dont see the point of it. To me, its like ViperX but lite.. minus OTA ability and too many updates that force full wipe twice a week. And it has a REALLY ANNOYING bootup sound, wtf is up with that?! Stable, for most part. But today i got stuck at lockscreen without any option to move the ring.. it got solved tho.
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I'd recommend InsertCoin too if what you want is just a clean and fast Sense ROM. I love it, and don't really mind that it's not full of a lot of tweaks and hacks.
And there's only an update that needs a full wipe with InsertCoin when the dev says it needs a full wipe. The last update that needed a full wipe was 9.3.0 last week, and that was only if you wanted the pt_BR language adding. Otherwise before that, the last update that did actually need a full wipe was 7.0 when he updated to the 2.05 base over 2 months ago.
asestar said:
InsertCoin is my current rom. Its not bad but I frankly dont see the point of it. To me, its like ViperX but lite.. minus OTA ability and too many updates that force full wipe twice a week. And it has a REALLY ANNOYING bootup sound, wtf is up with that?! Stable, for most part. But today i got stuck at lockscreen without any option to move the ring.. it got solved tho.
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I prefer insertcoin because I want to keep a stock sense look and feel, I wanted to try ARHD but got a bit baffled with all the different mods available, you have to flash separately. Insertcoin makes is easy with the aroma installer and you can easily enable/disable tweaks and mods you don't want.
Also there are frequent updates so when small bugs are found, they are quickly fixed and contrary to what asestar writes, you don't have to wipe. I haven't wiped since the 1.29 based roms (v6.x)

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