Hey everyone,
I'm still fairly new to Android. I had an iPhone previously, which I jailbroke and was quite comfortable with doing that. Now Android has a whole new slew of options that I'm not quite sure I understand and/or am comfortable with.
My Evo is rooted with the most up-to-date OTA, so I've got that down and I'm comfortable with how all of that works. I've installed ClockworkMod and wanted to start flashing some custom ROMs and kernels... but I don't know how they work together.
So, on to the questions:
## Can you flash any kernel with any custom ROM?
## Does the order you flash them in matter?
## I have a recovery ROM in case anything goes wrong... but how do you recover the kernel if things go wrong?
Really just looking for some quick and dirty info on these topics.
Thanks!
Hi, I will like the same info as you. I flashed kings kernel #11 on my EVO and I noticed that my videos don't play as smooth as they did with the original HTC Kernel. So I too will like to know how to recover my original Kernel. I hope someone could help us. If I found anything, I'll let you know.
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nacienleongto said:
Hi, I will like the same info as you. I flashed kings kernel #11 on my EVO and I noticed that my videos don't play as smooth as they did with the original HTC Kernel. So I too will like to know how to recover my original Kernel. I hope someone could help us. If I found anything, I'll let you know.
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Flash rom first, kernel second. Threads should specify if its for AOSP roms or Sense. What rom are you on? There are lots of kernel threads in the dev forums pick one you like and go! HTC kernels are there too if you search.
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Hey guys I have been doing quite a bit of searching through the forums and still have a couple questions about custom roms and rooting. Forgive the noobness but the droid incredible is my first android device and I only recently got it.
1. My first question is what is the simplest way (rom + root I assume) to get a stock version of android on my incredible? Also what rom would you recommend (I have seen a pretty big list but know nothing about them)?
2. What is the difference, if any, between a kernel and a rom? Ive seen both words used a lot and have seen kernels that are stock and roms that are as well. Which would I use between the two?
I know these questions may be dumb but I have been searching for a couple days and have gone through hundreds of threads trying to find the definitive answer (there were some benefits though, I use launcher pro and the droid x's keyboard now) any help would be appreciated.
1. You are right in assuming that the quickest (and only) way to get a stock version of Android on your phone is to root your phone and install a custom recovery that will allow you to flash a rom. It is not really possible for me to recommend a rom because rom's are all about personal preference and my preference may be different from yours. That being said, if you are interested in stock Android, check out Cyanogenmod. The biggest thing right now is that for the Incredible, Cyanogenmod is the only true stock Android that is compiled from AOSP (Android Open Source Project) however it is still in its early stages for our device, so it's still buggy. The other roms are modified versions of our stock sense rom, so some of the roms are modified to have the bulkier parts of of the Sense UI removed, but it is still a Sense rom.
2. I'm not going to profess to be extremely in the know about kernels, but a kernel is the go-between for the hardware and the os/applications. If you want to learn more about kernels, you can read the wikipedia page about kernels found here. Basically what you need to know is that the rom is the operating system, so if you wanted to change the OS such as from Sense to Vanilla Android, you would flash a rom. If you wanted to change the way the system runs, such as if you want your processor to be overclocked or undervolted, you would flash a kernel.
Hope this helps.
That answered everything! Thanks for the reply and I will keep checking the forums for stock roms that seem stable!
Hello Guys,
I wanted to take a moment of your times to ask a very simple question. I have done a lot of reading here, but there is just simply too much information here to be 100% certain about things. So, I wanted to avail your expert knowledge to find out the best Root Method and best ROM for my needs. I will list them below, so that you guys may make some advice to me:
Root Requirements:
I am looking for a full Root (NAND included) on Android 2.2, along with Recovery to flash custom ROMs. I will be interested in backing up as well, more specifically NAND backup, however, I do not know much about its full use or how to do it and what it restores and etc.
Information (what I am on right now):
Firmware version: 2.1
Build number: 1.47.651.1 CL195459 release-keys
Software number: 1.47.651.1
ROM Requirements:
I am basically looking for the LATEST, MOST STABLE, OFFICIAL ROM for Froyo with the latest HTC Updates, along with Sense. All that of course, with full-root, if possible. So the closest thing to the official update from HTC with full root access basically and minimal modifications.
Additionally desired:
Being able to delete or uninstall the apps that I don't want, and the Camera updates to beat the 30 fps limitation.
Sorry for sounding too demanding guys, but I am merely requesting for your guidance to point me in the right direction/confirm some of the things that I have read. Please treat me as an extreme Noob as well.
I thank you for all your patience and look forward to your responses. Thank you and have a nice day.
This is the wrong forum. Questions belong in the Q&A Forum.
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This is the wrong forum. Questions belong in the Q&A Forum.
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Sorry Sir. Mods, can you move this thread please? Thank you... sorry guys!
Not trying to flame or anything but search and you shall find, im pretty sure the root method you should use has root ota 1.47 in the name. Also roms are personal preferences. Once you get rooted try them all and see what you like best that's part of the fun. Good luck
Use Simpleroot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720565
ProFragger said:
ROM Requirements:
I am basically looking for the LATEST, MOST STABLE, OFFICIAL ROM for Froyo with the latest HTC Updates, along with Sense. All that of course, with full-root, if possible. So the closest thing to the official update from HTC with full root access basically and minimal modifications.
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Flash SteelH's rooted stock Froyo rom with Netarchy latest kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743781
Also wrong section, post in QA next time
As every one else suggests, simple root ota edition & amon ra's recovery, which is an option in simple root is a good start, as far as roms you really need to just flash a few for yourself to see which flavor you prefer, go get you something like myback up pro or titanium once your rooted, if your concerned about your apps/setup. There are several good stock roms out there to try...myself, I love me some evio, but it's all a matter of personal preference, trial & error, you gotta try out a few to see what really works for ya...
Sent from my phone.
When deciding what ROM, you can look at my sig for comparison charts of what features each ROM has. To get fps unlock you need to have a custom kernel, some ROMs have it included while others give download links to kernels that work for their ROM. Check out the chart and if you have any questions just post on my thread(also linked in my sig).
Long time lurker, first time poster :3. Anyways, I have a few questions regarding the flashing of ROMs and kernels. I have been looking around for a nice ROM(s) or a kernel(s) to flash the t989. Currently I am running on rooted stock and want to mix it up a bit. I came across the Darkside X v1 Final kernel located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466283&page=44 .
Now the question is can I flash this kernel but retain the stock ROM?
- any advantages vs flashing kernel and a new ROM?
- disadvantages?
Is there anything that I should be concerned about, or pay special attention to before proceeding with this?
Thanks!
ohaiu said:
Long time lurker, first time poster :3. Anyways, I have a few questions regarding the flashing of ROMs and kernels. I have been looking around for a nice ROM(s) or a kernel(s) to flash the t989. Currently I am running on rooted stock and want to mix it up a bit. I came across the Darkside X v1 Final kernel located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466283&page=44 .
(1) Now the question is can I flash this kernel but retain the stock ROM?
- (2) any advantages vs flashing kernel and a new ROM?
- (3) disadvantages?
(4) Is there anything that I should be concerned about, or pay special attention to before proceeding with this?
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(1) Yes you can, just wipe cache and dalvik cache prior to flashing kernel
(2) Depends on what the kernel has to offer. I'm not super well informed on tdjs kernel but for one you get BLN support which is great. You also get performance and battery enhancements plus many other goodies.
(3) Not really, any kernel on these forums is better than stock so you're looking at nothing but advantages.
(4) As long as you follow the proper steps to installing a kernel you should be fine. Common sense is your friend. Once you flash a specific kernel you might want to look at under clocking and under vaulting to extend your battery life with minimal performance decrease.
BONUS: TDJ's Darkside ROM and Eugenes Streamline Kernel are the best for me. Great stability, battery and performance. Refer to my signature for links.
Best of luck
The best advice I can give is Back up your stock rom with rom manager and back your apps with titanium, after that you can flash flash any rom and take it on a test drive to see how it feels. If you see it's buggy you can go back to the stock you had to begin with like you never did a thing.
Personalty I tried most of the ICS roms an found bugs I just couldn't deal with in one way or another. I did find this ICS rom today
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623430
This has the leaked tmo kernel and radio making it almost the complete update we so deserve lol. anyway I put it on today and sofar all I could say is it is sweet no bugs this far and love the ICS......
Last advice is before flash do the darkside super wipe this does a better job then just wipe cache and dalvik cache and you dont lose the data you have backed up.
Oh also follow the directions from any rom to the tee to lessen the chance for problems
[Q] Questions regarding kernels and romArrow
Thanks for the input guys. Right now, I would like to experiment with a new kernel before going full-blown with a ROM...I will likely do that later down the road.
Now, while I was reading up on the various kernels and their offerings, another question popped into my head. Will flashing the phone with a new kernel purge pre-existing applications and settings? I will be backing up regardless, but I just thought I'd ask.
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Thanks for the input guys. Right now, I would like to experiment with a new kernel before going full-blown with a ROM...I will likely do that later down the road.
Now, while I was reading up on the various kernels and their offerings, another question popped into my head. Will flashing the phone with a new kernel purge pre-existing applications and settings? I will be backing up regardless, but I just thought I'd ask.
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Hey, I know there are already a fair number of threads out there on this, but they all seem to be for "n00bs" or beginners, which I am not. I would like to write a custom ROM, including comiling the kernel and all that other jazz. I get the basics of *modifying* a ROM, but what if I want to significantly change something? And I have yet to find a tutorial on how you can compile the Android kernel for the Captivate Glide. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance!
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I'm thinking about trying to just compiling vanilla ICS (pun intended ) so that I can get the hang of the process. Then I can do my own stuff and not be constantly worrying about bricking my phone.
Hi guys I have just flashed this ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705334) however it is not the renovatePLUS version, how do I flash with the PLUS version, need it since it has mods and tweaks which I will need, auto-inverted rotating screen is driving me nuts!
FYI: I downloaded the plus zip but I dont know what to do with it, do I just extract into my phone? Because that did not work.
Also, I saw this guy, username(csec) with this signature (Phone: Renovated Endeavoru, F4, XM-Kernel #296 (Most fantastic combo in my entire experience with HOX)). I want to use have those thing stated, already have Renovate(will flash PLUS once I know how), and there is F4, anyone knows what that is? and finally XM-Kernel #296, which I believe is this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136731), can anyone please confirm is that is a similar one that I can use? Sorry for asking so many question, I finally decided to go deeper with flashing kernels and stuff and I require some professional advice, so please help! Thank you!
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Hi guys I have just flashed this ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705334) however it is not the renovatePLUS version, how do I flash with the PLUS version, need it since it has mods and tweaks which I will need, auto-inverted rotating screen is driving me nuts!
FYI: I downloaded the plus zip but I dont know what to do with it, do I just extract into my phone? Because that did not work.
Also, I saw this guy, username(csec) with this signature (Phone: Renovated Endeavoru, F4, XM-Kernel #296 (Most fantastic combo in my entire experience with HOX)). I want to use have those thing stated, already have Renovate(will flash PLUS once I know how), and there is F4, anyone knows what that is? and finally XM-Kernel #296, which I believe is this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136731), can anyone please confirm is that is a similar one that I can use? Sorry for asking so many question, I finally decided to go deeper with flashing kernels and stuff and I require some professional advice, so please help! Thank you!
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if u read the thread it will answer all ur Questions
flash the Renovate Plus through recovery <<< in the rom thread
if u want a banner with renovate check its thread
F4 stands for final 4
my advice gain some experience before flashing kernels u may brick ur device!
if u dont know what u are doing
Thanks!
The5alodi said:
flash the Renovate Plus through recovery <<< in the rom thread
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It doesnt seem to state on that thread that I have to do it through recovery. But thanks anyway!
For kernels I have one more question. Can I just use the kernel as provided? Of course checking that it is meant for my device 1st. Because there seems to be this confusing thing called repacking...
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It doesnt seem to state on that thread that I have to do it through recovery. But thanks anyway!
For kernels I have one more question. Can I just use the kernel as provided? Of course checking that it is meant for my device 1st. Because there seems to be this confusing thing called repacking...
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I RUINED my device before with kernels i didn't know how to use them and obviously i bricked my device so please dont try anything unless u gain experience
Repacking is like making peanut and jam sandwich its like making the kernel work with ur rom if u are using renovate u dont need to repack for XM kernels
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If there are no Ramdisc tweaks in the ROM, you don't need to repack the kernel... Mostly kernel repacking isn't needed for Sense roms... So you just have to flash the boot.img from the kernel's zip and then flash the modules from recovery...
AOSP/AOKP Roms need kernel repack each and every time before flashing!
vin4yak said:
If there are no Ramdisc tweaks in the ROM, you don't need to repack the kernel... Mostly kernel repacking isn't needed for Sense roms... So you just have to flash the boot.img from the kernel's zip and then flash the modules from recovery...
AOSP/AOKP Roms need kernel repack each and every time before flashing!
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Sense roms these days are a lot so i suggest repacking as it will not do any harm!
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Help once more!
Hi, so after researching a little bit more, I decided change my kernel to the XM kernel(original non-repacked), tried it for a few days, noticed that it response quite slowly compared to default kernel, things like slow display of lock screen upon power on, less smooth transition when. Could I have done it wrongly? Other than the slow response everything else seems fine, I noticed one of the features is S2W, I tried that on my buttons and it worked, however fast charge usb and usb mass storage isnt working, is there somewhere I can enable it or do you have an idea where I can find a guide for XM kernels that describes its features and functionality? Sorry for asking so many questions, thank you!
You have rather detailed instruction how to deal with fast charge and USB mass storage in XMister's thread (first one or two posts).
I suggest you install some of the kernel manageent applications:
- trickster MOD
- Set CPU
... There are many. Choose one that fits you (I am personally using Trickster).
There you will be able to play with your governors and scheduler, and thus achieve better performance or battery life. Or both. Check Q&A, there are few very educative threads about it.
You seem to be on a good way. Keep reading.
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