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WP7 Phone with the Best Camera

Anyone have some input on the best WP7 phone to get if I want to use it to replace my Kodak digital camera? The camera on the HD7 kind of sucks.

Don't go with the LG Quantum either. In bright daylight it's sort of ok, but as soon as you need flash, it's like taking a picture on a RAZR from 2007. Awful.
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I think the HTC Mozart is the only wp with an 8mp camera. Probably the best?

I would say pretty much all of them are the same; the only phone that has more mp is the HTC Mozart (8mp). Idk if that might make a difference though as mp doesn't necessarily define the whole aspect of good pictures. I hear the focus is nice for taking pictures (in terms of clarity and color balance) as well. It also has the SAMOLED screen, which means the pictures show up more vibrant on your phone
I'm interested in hearing what other people say

Don't know about the Focus, but the Samsung Omnia 7 is definitely the best one available in Europe. I would rank them Samsung, LG, HTC - with the Mozart's 8MP not really being any better than the other HTC phones.

I've been extremely satisfied with the photo quality on my Focus.

its worth pointing out that higher MP does not equal better quality.
Most 5MP cameras will be fine in teh correct lighting conditions, low light is the biggest issue, the reason for this is down to optics and CCD size.
If you had a 12MP camera with a lense the size of the HD2/7 the pictures will be crap in low light as well, to be perfectly honest unless you get a phone with a big arse lense and 5+MP you wont get good "poor" light photos
I find the HD2/7 camera is grand in good lighting, had some cracking shots, mess with the lighting a bit and i pull out my slim line 12MP camera with its 32mm lense

yeah, don't replace your camera.
Just buy a second hand canon Ixus series (60 - 95) for less than £70 on ebay and you won't ever be disappointed! They are ultracompact but the picture quality has always been so good!
I don't really understand people who try to replace their camera with their mobile phone.. the mobile phone will take mediocre shots but i guess you have it with you all the time.
BUt even a cheapo crappy dedicated camera with LOWER MP will shoot better pictures than a 5MP-10MP phone.
Get one of the ultracompacts whcih are actually smaller than a lot of the new smartphones anyway!
I don't think I've used my Omnia 7 camera except for when taking lecture notes on Onenote!
Otherwise I stick to using my Canon 550D and Ixus 95

hboos said:
I don't really understand people who try to replace their camera with their mobile phone.. the mobile phone will take mediocre shots but at least you have it with you all the time.
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You just answered yourself - it's because you've always got your phone with you. The less gadgets you have to carry the better.
I tend to use my Omnia7 for photos several times a day. Quick snaps of just about anything. The fact they're snaps doesn't mean I'll be happy with ****ty quality though, you never know, you might get lucky enough to catch that one moment and decide you want it printed.
Now, if I'm out specifically for taking photos I'll obviously use my Nikon DSLR, but for everyday use I want a phone that gives at least half decent results.
The fact is that all WP7 cameras could be better. Especially the HTC ones.

emigrating said:
You just answered yourself - it's because you've always got your phone with you. The less gadgets you have to carry the better.
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Yeah agreed it is slightly more convenient..
But I personally don't like swapping quality for slight convenience
I still use my Cowon for music (better sound quality than phone) and carry my ultra compact when out with friends and my DSLR when I want to take decent photos!
I also find that the lens of the phone camera is always grubby resulting in slightly soft photos!
BUt coming back to the topic..I think the OMnia 7 takes fairly decent photos compared to other phones although I don't know how it compares to other WP7
Engadget reckons the Focus has an "impressive camera" and the Omnia 7 has a "good camera" while the others either aren't mentioned in the scorecard or specifically mention "subpar camera"
They've actually posted all the photos so you should have a look yourself.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/29/htc-trophy-review/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/22/samsung-focus-review/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/22/lg-optimus-7-review/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/htc-7-mozart-review/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/20/htc-hd7-review/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/20/samsung-omnia-7-review/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/20/htc-surround-review/

I'm having real problems with the focus camera. I can't seem to get a steady shot. Maybe it's because of the hardware button, and I'm slightly moving the camera when I take it. I hope that's it, because it usually takes me 5 or 6 shots to get a decent one...

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I'm having real problems with the focus camera. I can't seem to get a steady shot. Maybe it's because of the hardware button, and I'm slightly moving the camera when I take it. I hope that's it, because it usually takes me 5 or 6 shots to get a decent one...
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Have you tried holding the camera button down half-way to let it focus before taking the pic? Also, there is an anti-shake setting on Focuses (and other Samsungs, I presume), but unfortunately the setting doesn't save.

yes i use the auto-focus feature, i've tried the anti-shake setting, i've tried lowering the resolution, pretty much everything...i can get a decent shot about 1 out of 5

Arc S has a horrible camera quality

Hello, i bought a new Arc S. I found, that camera produces really low quality pictures. Is there any way to improve compression? I heard, that CM has a improved quality camera.
Thank you

Hello there
Unfortunately, there is currently no option available to improve the crappy quality of the camera output (compression).
Neither CM7 nor MIUI have any significant improvement in this area.

Are you sure you bought an arc because my arc takes good pics but it isn't an arc s but I find this hard to believe maybe your only taking pictures in the dark ?

Check your settings. Some phones have the camera set to poor quality from start.
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I've bought an Xperia Arc S too about a month ago, but in my opinion the camera is fantastic! Maybe you have to set the camera in high quality. My camera was also standard at 2 MP 16:9. Now I'm using 6 MP 16:9 and the pictures are great, even in the dark.

septix said:
Check your settings. Some phones have the camera set to poor quality from start.
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Resolution is already set to 8Mpixels.
Which other settings could I check?

rioka said:
Resolution is already set to 8Mpixels.
Which other settings could I check?
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I'd recommend 6 MP, because it has a 16:9 instead of a 4:3 format.

Mine works awesome with 8MP...
Could you post a pic made by your cam?
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I would also recommend you post the picture you have taken, x10 and arc are best known as their 8M camera, they should be able to take impressive picture compared to all the phone available back then and even able to compete among all phones on the market to date
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I don't understand people who say Arc camera is crappy.
It's the best I've ever used in a mobile phone to date.
It can't be compared to my compact camera but it's a phone after all
and the results are more than decent for quick shots.

I don't say my arc is perfect but It's not really that bad in taking picture .
I'm ok with it ...
Using 6MP 16:9,
maybe Your lens is dirty ! clean it if it's needed.

arc is one of the best camera phones out there.if not the best.

Best camera 2011/2012, it won that price
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The camera is great - no 2 opinions about that.
But after I downgraded from .62 to .42 with data&system wipe, because of the root, my phone started to take really low quality pics in low light - identical conditions, the same camera settings, but now pics appear with a great level of noise, nomatter how I adjust the settings. On videos also. This is my second time downgrading from 62, the first time without wipe - everything was OK, but now I think smthing must have gone wrong - lots of noise and heavy purple dots...
Any ideas how to fix that, cause I really miss the good low light pics - one of the reasons I bought it.

iridaki said:
I don't understand people who say Arc camera is crappy.
It's the best I've ever used in a mobile phone to date.
It can't be compared to my compact camera but it's a phone after all
and the results are more than decent for quick shots.
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Maybe some users are expecting a miracle out of arc's camera (e.g. comparing the pictures against DSLRs' large sensor and lens)
Its great for casual shots and videos imo.
It even won an EISA award.

The camera is great, the software is horrible. MIUI and CM7 support to change the jpg compression, which the stock ROM doesn't. The jpg compression sadly ****s up everything and destroys the overall quality of the shots.

I find the quality of the arc's shots to be great, I don't understand why so many people complain. Yes the output file is pretty small for an 8MP resolution photo because its been compressed to ****, but I don't really notice this, even when plugging into my 42" TV it still looks great (until you start to zoom in) Take a range of shots, when shooting in darkness you will find a decent amount of noise but this is just the Exmor-r working wonders - without it, you'd find you'd just have a very dark picture.

Like many people already said, I'm totally happy with the picture's quality of my ARC, especially on 6MP 16:9. I love the colors, the tones, the clarity.. I'm sure that Sony (still SE for me ) will improve a little about JPEG compression in next ICS release..

iridaki said:
I don't understand people who say Arc camera is crappy.
It's the best I've ever used in a mobile phone to date.
It can't be compared to my compact camera but it's a phone after all
and the results are more than decent for quick shots.
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Exactly. Only my old Nokia N95 comes close, but that also was a little sony carl zeiss optic if i recall correctly.

Arc S camera is crappy.
I know it, because i used a Samsung mobile for a long time before Arc S, to take more than 4K pcs photos, so i can compare them.
It makes a lot of color noise under low light conditions of scenes.
Even a bit better when the light is enough, but then it makes white burned photos
The objective is distorted (fish eye aka barell), and also makes color noises in its corners.
The video record of this mobile is blurred, shaked, in low light condition makes color noises too.
You have to use Noiseware, or similar software to remove unwanted color noises from photos which are dotted by Xperia Arc /s
I don't know what is the meaning of the Exmore r, because i can't find a reason, maybe it' s only a commercial thingy
Sorry for my bad english.

The HTC One X Camera Support thread

Hello everyone,
I’ve decided to start this thread to ask for your help in creating a central One X Camera Support thread.
Please feel free to share all your experience, best tips & tricks, advice, links and anything else you may feel useful. Also feel free to ask questions if you're having trouble!
Over the coming days, weeks and months, I’ll do my best to organise useful info within this first post to help people get the info they need quickly and easilly. I’ll also try to put together some tutorials of my own as we go along.
Cheers,
Bugsy.
Here's a tiny selection to be going on with. There are many more to come, and I'll find a way to make it more tidy soon:
Why are my photos 6MP instead of 8MP?
While the One X can take 8 megapixel images (and will do with a simple change of settings), the phone’s CMOS sensor is designed to capture images with a different aspect ratio to that of the phone’s physical display (4:3 vs 16:9 respectively). What this means, is that 8 megapixel photos don’t fill the entire display and result in black bands being shown down either side of the image. To combat this, HTC include (and enable by default) a widescreen option that crops the image to make it fill the entire screen. This results in a more visually appealing look that makes full use of the screen's real estate.
If you want to disable this function and capture full 8MP photos, you can do this quite easily via the camera’s settings menu (Settings>Camera Options>Widescreen).
If you’d like to know more about the effect this option has on functionality and image quality, I’ve put together a short video that may help:
http://youtu.be/JU-NLQrjb9w
When I start recording HD video, my camera zooms in. Why is that?
This is often thought to stem from only a small portion of the sensor being used for video capture. However, In the case of the One X, the main cause appears to be the result of pixels being reserved for Image Stabilisation. By cropping the camera’s view, HTC are able to use the spare pixels from outside the visible frame to counteract motion. The downside is a limited Field of View.
Currently, the effect of Real Time Image Stabilisation seems quite limited, so you may wish to trade this feature for a better viewing angle. Thankfully, HTC do allow you to do this via the settings menu (Settings>Video Options>Stabilisation). By disabling this option, you will gain (almost) the same field of view that you have in standard widescreen photo mode. The difference will be more visible in 720p mode due to the different capturing technique used.
I want to take low Light photos without using the flash. Is ISO 800 the maximum setting I can use?
ISO 800 is the highest level that you can select manually, but the phone will use anything up to ISO1250 if you leave the ISO mode set to Auto (or if you use Low Light Scene mode, which overrides any manual setting). Unfortunately there isn’t currently a way to manually select anything higher than ISO800 within the stock app.
The 4:3 live preview image doesn’t look sharp
This appears to be a software scaling issue that affects the stock app. Hopefully HTC will fix this in a future software update.
Will using a screen protector on the lens affect picture quality?
Image quality is really quite subjective. What one person considers a distinct loss of quality, another may consider negligible. Personally, I wouldn’t use one, as even the best protectors cause some degree of image degradation.
Having said this, you really have to consider your own personal situation. Are you someone that puts your phone in your pocket without a case or pouch? Do you have young children that might put the phone on a rough surface without considering the consequence? One thing is for sure – a screen protector will cause fewer problems than a lens covered with scratches!
White or light objects have a glow around them, especially when it’s sunny
This problem is, almost without fail, the result of finger prints on the lens (or possibly a lens protector if you have one). You’d be surprised how the smallest greasy mark can affect the picture in this way. Unfortunately, lens HTC’s lens design does little to help keep the lens clean.

This is a good thread for inspiration: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585398

I'll get the discussion ball rolling. 16:9 or 4:3, I can't decide. I like 16:9 as it looks good on the screen and TVs and monitors are also 16:9. But physical media is all 4:3. Is it time physical media got with the times. Does the cropping effect the quality?
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xn1 said:
I'll get the discussion ball rolling. 16:9 or 4:3, I can't decide.
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He he.. People are going to think I put you up to that question when they see my reply.
Here's a video I prepared earlier:
Bugsy.

xn1 said:
I'll get the discussion ball rolling. 16:9 or 4:3, I can't decide. I like 16:9 as it looks good on the screen and TVs and monitors are also 16:9. But physical media is all 4:3. Is it time physical media got with the times. Does the cropping effect the quality?
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well i'd say for pictures 4:3 is better since it's just a non cutdown version of the 16:9 picture so u have more on it and later can edit it on pc to make sure u have the best result.

Vey nicely put together video. Many thanks.

anub1s18 said:
well i'd say for pictures 4:3 is better since it's just a non cutdown version of the 16:9 picture so u have more on it and later can edit it on pc to make sure u have the best result.
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Higher pixel density in 4.3

I can't find a widescreen option on my phone, I am stock.

Open the camera, go to the settings and choose camera options.
There you can change the resolution 16:9 or 4:3
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I can't find a widescreen option on my phone, I am stock.
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jag233 said:
I can't find a widescreen option on my phone, I am stock.
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Open camera app hit the cog find camera options and untick wide screen for full res shots.
Edit; beaten to it lol
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Thanks for the replies lads, I have been taking photos in widescreen all this time what an idiot

backfromthestorm said:
Higher pixel density in 4.3
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4:3 images have more pixels, but they are spread over a larger area, right?. I don't see where the density of anything changes. Or am I missing something?

jag233 said:
Thanks for the replies lads, I have been taking photos in widescreen all this time what an idiot
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You're not an idiot - HTC have it set that way by default.
There is no definitive right or wrong choice, but knowing the pros and cons of each mode will certainly help to make your decision easier.
Whichever way people go though, disabling widescreen mode may be a good option for panoramic shots...
Unfortunately HTC still don't allow you to change the phone's orientation for panoramas. This means that your panoramas will be very wide, but not particularly tall. Until such time that HTC change this, disabling widescreen mode will maximise the height of your captures (you'll gain a few hundred pixels). Worth considering
Bugsy.

craigspc said:
4:3 images have more pixels, but they are spread over a larger area, right?. I don't see where the density of anything changes. Or am I missing something?
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No, you're not missing anything. Images shot in 4:3 mode are approximately 600 pixels taller, but those additional pixels are, as you say - used to capture a larger vertical area. Pixel density doesn't change.

Bugsy, thank you for such an excellent video explaining the differences between 16:9 and 4:3 apspect ratios, which many users find confusing.
I hope you don't mind but I've shared a link to your video on the 'HTC ONE Users Group' over at Flickr, giving you full credit
http://www.flickr.com/groups/htc-one/

Radiognome said:
Bugsy, thank you for such an excellent video explaining the differences between 16:9 and 4:3 apspect ratios, which many users find confusing.
I hope you don't mind but I've shared a link to your video on the 'HTC ONE Users Group' over at Flickr, giving you full credit
http://www.flickr.com/groups/htc-one/
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You're very welcome - I'm glad you liked it. Feel free to share links to anything I do freely. You don't need to ask for my permission.

Just wanted to do the right thing Bugsy, especially when you've put so much work into this
Changing the subject if anyone would like to see a comparision I did between the stock camera app, Camera ICS, Camera 360 and Camera FV-5, please check out the following link.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/htc-one/discuss/72157629696073156/

BugsyLawson said:
He he.. People are going to think I put you up to that question when they see my reply.
Here's a video I prepared earlier:
Bugsy.
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Hehe, they might just, but thank you for the video. I think I'll switch to 4:3 but I will miss full screen pictures
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Also, something I have found. With saturation set to -1 the colors seem more natural. Especially with reds in low light
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I turn the exposure down by 1 as I find it blows out highlights on the regular exposure.
I agree that the saturation gives more natural colours if you dial that down by 1 as well. I quite like the 'kodak' look though
I am finding that the auto white balance gives a red cast, especially when there is a lot of green in the image (such as in a park). I have also found that the daylight white balance is way to yellow.

Note II Camera (Your Best Settings &/or Preferred App)

Okay... I must state that I came from a HTC One X. Awesome camera out of the box. I honestly always heard everyone (reviews) saying how good it was but never really realized it till switching phones to the Note II. Now I understand.
So with that said; the Note II does okay but seems more blurry to me. More like a iPhone 4 (girlfriend had so only iPhone comparison).
The photos are okay, just not as clear as I want. The photo's seem to look okay scaled down but when looking at full version (not full screen) on Laptop .... it shows low quality.
I'm probably not explaining it well. Sorry
So.... I do have some questions here. Please note I know that these are only opinions. Not looking to bash any apps or settings. Please bring the positive.
What App do you prefer...what settings do you prefer in stated App? to get the best quality photo? Stock? third Party? etc.
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I am currently using Stock app
Burst shot = on
flash usually off, but sometime on
No effects
No scene mode
Exposure value = 0
Auto Focus
Resolution = 3264x2448
White balance = Auto
ISO = Auto
Metering = Center weighted
Auto Contrast = Off
Anti Shake = On
Image Quality = Superfine
Would it help to turn on or off any of these settings? What has been your best results?
Thx!

Is burst shot the same quality as single shot. I Googled it but got no answer. I think it may have to do with how the signal is processed and of course the sensor size. As the sensor is opviously very small it can only capture a little light. The phone compensates with a higher iso causing grainy pictures. Do some comparisons in daylight add compare them.
It could obviously be as you stated. The One X has a better camera.

Dmwitz said:
Is burst shot the same quality as single shot. I Googled it but got no answer. I think it may have to do with how the signal is processed and of course the sensor size. As the sensor is opviously very small it can only capture a little light. The phone compensates with a higher iso causing grainy pictures. Do some comparisons in daylight add compare them.
It could obviously be as you stated. The One X has a better camera.
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I have been playing around a little bit this morning.
Found that HDR is not bad. Helps a lot indoors.
Also Many shots were the best in "Low Light" mode while indoors.
Agree that I was probably spoiled with the HTC One X.
Just need to keep playing around and use more. with the One X I was able to just point and shoot. Didn;t really have to use any special options. LOL

Every phone camera sucks, , Why spend so much time on it lol.

Antishake adds considerable amount of noise to the picture. This is not a mechanical antishake like on a dslr lens. Its a software elemination. However "camera 360 " app and some other apps dont add noise when you use this feature cuz they only let you take take the photo when your hand is stabilized. I suggest you not to use antishake with stock camera app unless you want lower picture detail.
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Thx! I will turn off the Anti Shake and try it out. Good info...

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Antishake adds considerable amount of noise to the picture. This is not a mechanical antishake like on a dslr lens. Its a software elemination. However "camera 360 " app and some other apps dont add noise when you use this feature cuz they only let you take take the photo when your hand is stabilized. I suggest you not to use antishake with stock camera app unless you want lower picture detail.
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WOW! Yes the Antishake adds a lot of noise. Thx I would have never thought of turning off this feature.

Galaxy A70 has 8MP Main camera and not 32MP? Attention everyone

I've been using the A70 for about a week. I interacted with some A70 owners and they said that the phone had 8MP main camera and not the 32MP main camera. I gave a try to some hardware info apps and all showed 8MP camera at the back and 5.2MP camera on the front. What's wrong here? The phone is showing wrong info or it just has an 8MP camera. Can everyone confirm this?
I have also made a video on it. I'm just trying to get an answer from all the Galaxy A70 owners about their experience with this phone.
You can check it here: https://youtu.be/tOM9oNWV_rQ
I wish I'm wrong on this, Everyone please drop your comments.

No, it really is a 32mp camera module. Samsung, for whatever reason, have crammed the 32mp option in a submenu inside the camera app. Tap on the format button and choose 3:4H. Now you'll be able to use the full resolution of the camera.
Just be aware that - I don't know why - HDR does not work in 32mp mode.

All I can say is that pictures taken in low light conditions are amongst the worst I have seen. Absolutely terrible picture quality worthy of a 100$ budget phone not a premium 400$ phone.
Even my 3 years old A9 Pro 2016 has better low light capability.

Sufyan3D said:
All I can say is that pictures taken in low light conditions are amongst the worst I have seen. Absolutely terrible picture quality worthy of a 100$ budget phone not a premium 400$ phone.
Even my 3 years old A9 Pro 2016 has better low light capability.
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I second that. I don't know why Samsung had to cripple their camera module this hard via software. Using Gcam though, the camera does produce great results in low light!

Irrespective of MP number, picture quality isn't great for sub $400 phone. Can they fix with software update? or need to change phone?

um009 said:
I've been using the A70 for about a week. I interacted with some A70 owners and they said that the phone had 8MP main camera and not the 32MP main camera. I gave a try to some hardware info apps and all showed 8MP camera at the back and 5.2MP camera on the front. What's wrong here? The phone is showing wrong info or it just has an 8MP camera. Can everyone confirm this?
I have also made a video on it. I'm just trying to get an answer from all the Galaxy A70 owners about their experience with this phone.
I wish I'm wrong on this, Everyone please drop your comments.
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I actually wrote a post about this, didn´t see yours, was too eager to write my first post here I guess. The camera uses a new Samsung technology which only works if you choose 4:3H aspect ratio, there is no way to choose file size for each respective ratio. The pictures are hardware 4 x 8MP rendered and since the technology is new all third party camera and HW info apps only view the 8 MP .. not the x4 tetracell technology which works and is implemented in an abysmal manner.
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Jason379 said:
No, it really is a 32mp camera module. Samsung, for whatever reason, have crammed the 32mp option in a submenu inside the camera app. Tap on the format button and choose 3:4H. Now you'll be able to use the full resolution of the camera.
Just be aware that - I don't know why - HDR does not work in 32mp mode.
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What if one usually only uses 16:9 aspect ratio? .. limited to 8 MP? ... I call that false advertising.

Jason379 said:
I second that. I don't know why Samsung had to cripple their camera module this hard via software. Using Gcam though, the camera does produce great results in low light!
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Can you tell us wich version of Gcam u use, and where to find it ?
Edit: See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0D1U0aSgKE for example.
Seems like at the moment Gcam is only better for taking photo's in low light......

Snoete said:
Can you tell us wich version of Gcam u use, and where to find it ?
Edit: See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0D1U0aSgKE for example.
Seems like at the moment Gcam is only better for taking photo's in low light......
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Hi,
I used this version of Gcam:
S10_1_MGC_6.1.021_BSG_Arnova_TlnNeun_V1.3.030119.0 645.apk
You can find it on Androidfilehost, for example. Works like a charm on my A70. Lots of settings are actually possible - just don't try to 'force 4K on front camera' mode - it'll make the app crash all the time. Other than that, Gcam really is way better than the stock camera app and HDR+ works really really good, too. Only downside - pics are limited to 8MP at the moment, but when using RAW, it's not a big deal at all.

Jason379 said:
Hi,
I used this version of Gcam:
S10_1_MGC_6.1.021_BSG_Arnova_TlnNeun_V1.3.030119.0 645.apk
You can find it on Androidfilehost, for example. Works like a charm on my A70. Lots of settings are actually possible - just don't try to 'force 4K on front camera' mode - it'll make the app crash all the time. Other than that, Gcam really is way better than the stock camera app and HDR+ works really really good, too. Only downside - pics are limited to 8MP at the moment, but when using RAW, it's not a big deal at all.
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I downloaded the samd apk, does your night mode shots also crash the app ?

Download this Gcam mod to get full working night mode on the A70:
MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2e
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397887533
Make sure you make a few necessary changes in app settings by following this video:
https://youtu.be/0cRMt39V8Po
Getting great low light shots with this mod. Other Apks crash when taking a photo in night mode.

Hi,
I must say that, whatever the causes, the pictures taken by this device are simply horrible.
I am not one of those so called photographers that is looking for the absolute colour reproduction and the sharpness of 10X real life.
I just want to have some pictures for moments I want to remember.
But even for that, this device doesn't do the job
All pictures are blurry, out of focus...
I can't even set the picture quality in the settings of the camera app.
I just can set the aspect ratio (in the Photo part) and the video resolution in the settings.
But no way to set the number of pixels I want for the pictures.
That is another dark side of this device that looked so promising on paper but doesn't deliver at all.
So goes Samsung... and device will be sent back to Amazon.

NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
I must say that, whatever the causes, the pictures taken by this device are simply horrible.
I am not one of those so called photographers that is looking for the absolute colour reproduction and the sharpness of 10X real life.
I just want to have some pictures for moments I want to remember.
But even for that, this device doesn't do the job
All pictures are blurry, out of focus...
I can't even set the picture quality in the settings of the camera app.
I just can set the aspect ratio (in the Photo part) and the video resolution in the settings.
But no way to set the number of pixels I want for the pictures.
That is another dark side of this device that looked so promising on paper but doesn't deliver at all.
So goes Samsung... and device will be sent back to Amazon.
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Agreed, this phones's cameras suck.
You can choose high resolution mode (32mp) by tapping on the small 3:4 button then choosing 3:4H (H stands for high quality or high resolution).
There is an update rolling in India right now which promises to improve camera quality.

Sufyan3D said:
Agreed, this phones's cameras suck.
You can choose high resolution mode (32mp) by tapping on the small 3:4 button then choosing 3:4H (H stands for high quality or high resolution).
There is an update rolling in India right now which promises to improve camera quality.
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Sounds very promising. In the meantime, use the app 'open camera' for 100% JPG quality or even full size RAW output. It's got fully manual controls, too.

Yes, it looks like camera software improvements are coming soon:
https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_pushes_first_software_update_for_the_galaxy_a70-news-37147.php
We'll have to wait to see how much it's improved...

SAMSUNG A70 CAMERA Poor Quality images and videos
I just bought Samsung a70, and the camera gives very poor images for 738 kb sizes only. I bought that mobile from samsung site, how to return the mobile. any help.

i am more than disappointed with the main camera...it is below any standards for modern phones...even my no name chinese phone couple of years old is making better photos....it is a shame for samsung to produce such half hearted pathetic camera...photos are smudgy, soft, and lack sharpness...auto focus is sluggish and in most cases you don't know is it even work...my old phone has clear green square signs all over screen which shows if photo is in focus or not, here you don't know what is going on...samsung is trying to impress all of us with 32mp number, but it is pathetic as well...i have tried some of the gcam camera and results are clearly better....so, it is obvious samsung is treating customers badly and sell them inferior camera not only to direct competition regarding price, but camera which is even worse than cameras in 50 dollars no name chinese phones...to say i am feeling cheated is understatement...
to be honest, live focus/blur/portrait mode is doing very good job?? how come? it looks like samsung is artificially made camera bad and not even try to make things better through software changes...
i would like to hear your thoughts about it? are you feeling cheated and disappointed about main camera in a70?

Tactman said:
i am more than disappointed with the main camera...it is below any standards for modern phones...even my no name chinese phone couple of years old is making better photos....it is a shame for samsung to produce such half hearted pathetic camera...photos are smudgy, soft, and lack sharpness...auto focus is sluggish and in most cases you don't know is it even work...my old phone has clear green square signs all over screen which shows if photo is in focus or not, here you don't know what is going on...samsung is trying to impress all of us with 32mp number, but it is pathetic as well...i have tried some of the gcam camera and results are clearly better....so, it is obvious samsung is treating customers badly and sell them inferior camera not only to direct competition regarding price, but camera which is even worse than cameras in 50 dollars no name chinese phones...to say i am feeling cheated is understatement...
to be honest, live focus/blur/portrait mode is doing very good job?? how come? it looks like samsung is artificially made camera bad and not even try to make things better through software changes...
i would like to hear your thoughts about it? are you feeling cheated and disappointed about main camera in a70?
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Back camera is simply bad.
Front camera is very good and specially in night. All I would like to change in that phone is the back camera which I do not really understand why Samsung are doing this....

Samsung A70 32MP camera (top camera) is not working
All cameras the 8MP, 5MP and the front camera are working. Im sure they are working because I tried blocking each one depending on settings. But I cant seem to find the settings on how will the top camera will work. I tried the 3:4H ratio already but its the middle camera that is being utilized. For the wide angle, it is the bottom back camera. How can I utilize the top camera at the back?

Engrfusi said:
All cameras the 8MP, 5MP and the front camera are working. Im sure they are working because I tried blocking each one depending on settings. But I cant seem to find the settings on how will the top camera will work. I tried the 3:4H ratio already but its the middle camera that is being utilized. For the wide angle, it is the bottom back camera. How can I utilize the top camera at the back?
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well, top camera's job is depth. You can use it with live focus.
32MP one is in the middle of them. It's the main camera.
And bottom camera is wide angle as you knew.

NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
I must say that, whatever the causes, the pictures taken by this device are simply horrible.
I am not one of those so called photographers that is looking for the absolute colour reproduction and the sharpness of 10X real life.
I just want to have some pictures for moments I want to remember.
But even for that, this device doesn't do the job
All pictures are blurry, out of focus...
I can't even set the picture quality in the settings of the camera app.
I just can set the aspect ratio (in the Photo part) and the video resolution in the settings.
But no way to set the number of pixels I want for the pictures.
That is another dark side of this device that looked so promising on paper but doesn't deliver at all.
So goes Samsung... and device will be sent back to Amazon.
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this phone a70 is a total lie.
it has a 8 magapixel awful camera.
it is absolutely not 32 megapixel by hardware. maybe it is 32 megapixel by software.
photos have no details, overprocessed, photos are washed out. like a watercolor paint. there are no textures. all textures are washed out.
colors are either too washy or either too bright.
low light performance is among the worst.
SAMSUNG, DO YOU KNOW THE WORD CALIBRATION???
and by 6 months this lier company released to market after A10,A20,A30,A40,A50,A60,A70,A80,A90 the s variants.
A10s,A20s,A30s,A40s,A50s,A60s,A70s etc.
now they have released the 1 variants.
A11,A21,A31,A41,A61,A71 etc etc
this samsung company is a total lier. hoax company.
trying to dominate the market by flooding with fake phones almost all the same hardware... market lies.
incomplete products, incomplete software, full of bugs, full of bloatware...
and i forgot they have the M10,M20,M30 as well as M20s,M30s....
pufffff LIER HOAX COMPANY SAMSUNG.