Hi all,
Which is better to root my evo? Simpleroot or Unrevoked? Or does it even matter?
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martymania85 said:
Hi all,
Which is better to root my evo? Simpleroot or Unrevoked? Or does it even matter?
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I just ran Simpleroot in less than an hour (that includes downloading and installing .NET 4 framework and rebooting my computer and restoring my backed up data). Unrevoked has never worked for me.
unrevoked literally took me 3 minutes. just pick one and do it..
I guess the better question is will you have any limitations if you use unrevoked3 instead of simple root (in terms of flashing custom roms)?
I thought unrevoked doesn't unlock NAND? I used simple root then followed the thread, how to start over: fully rooted update 1.47, to unlock NAND and get su permissions app.
MikeC84 said:
I thought unrevoked doesn't unlock NAND?
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Yes, but as of version 3.0 the unrevoked homepage says this:
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Does unrevoked3 give me root?
Yes. It previously did not; as of version 3.0, it does.
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What does this do, then?
unrevoked3 will replace the stock Android recovery with a custom one, which adds many features including “nandroid” backups, the ability to use custom ROMs, and a greater amount of flexibility and customization of your Android phone. "
Even though it doesn't unlock NAND...
can anyone speak to whether there is an advantage of using simpleroot on a pre OTA EVO vs letting the OTA update run and then using unrevoked 3?
Safe to say that unrevoked versus simple root is just different gui's but the end result is the same?
How to Root non OTA EVO 4G
How do I root new EVO 4G with software #1.32.651.6? Also how do I put a .zip on SD card? Should I use Simple Root or Unrevoked? Thanks in advance.
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Ok I have a rooted hero and my boss has the evo so I don't get to updating it much. I used unrevoked to root the phone when they first came out and have installed no updates so far. I saw I missed unrevoked2 and 3 and reading the notes on the website leaves me with more questions then answers. I tried running the recovery console from hboot but it gave me a red triangle with !.
So now I am trying to figure out how to update since I can't access the recovery screen. Can I just update to 1.42 and then run the unrevoked3 and have full root access? Any suggestions. Thanks
that sounds like it should work, do it quick though because when froyo 2.2 comes out, u might not be able to root.
and btw unrevoked 3 is not a full root, if u use simple root it is, and just as easy, might take 15 min. though
When you are at that screen with the red triangle hold volume up and press power that should get you into the boot screen.
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Rocklee99 said:
and btw unrevoked 3 is not a full root, if u use simple root it is, and just as easy, might take 15 min. though
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What is the difference between full root and what unrevoked 3 get you?
teedo757 said:
What is the difference between full root and what unrevoked 3 get you?
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You unlock NAND which means you can make changes to the file system. If you want to remove stock apps, make any file changes or want to install custom ROMs, then you need NAND unlocked. Careful though, it downgrades your PRI and there is NO way to upgrade it again, even if you return to stock. If you are able to do what you need with what unrevoked provides, you are better off sticking with it.
superlinkx said:
You unlock NAND which means you can make changes to the file system. If you want to remove stock apps, make any file changes or want to install custom ROMs, then you need NAND unlocked. Careful though, it downgrades your PRI and there is NO way to upgrade it again, even if you return to stock. If you are able to do what you need with what unrevoked provides, you are better off sticking with it.
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so if I don't care about running custom roms (only really interested in wireless tether) then upgrading the phone...breaking root...and then just running unrevoked3 would be my best option?
Can I just install the deodexed version of froyo released today?
Yes but you have to be fully rooted...nand unlocked...and have a recovery flashed to download that.
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Dont do update 1.42....
My advise, don't update to 1.42, unistall unrevoked and do Toast root 1 and 2 method, then you'll have nand unlocked so you can flash a 1.42 rom already rooted, after that you can flash any Froyo flavor you want.
teedo757 said:
so if I don't care about running custom roms (only really interested in wireless tether) then upgrading the phone...breaking root...and then just running unrevoked3 would be my best option?
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Do not upgrade manually, i repeat, DO NOT UPGRADE, it would be difficult later to get the full root
I just rooted/nand yesterday on 1.47 w/ 1 click simpleroot ota. it was super easy and painless.
mikevillarroel said:
My advise, don't update to 1.42, unistall unrevoked and do Toast root 1 and 2 method, then you'll have nand unlocked so you can flash a 1.42 rom already rooted, after that you can flash any Froyo flavor you want.
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I looked over at toasts website and did not see a root program he is providing yet. Were you referring to simple root? Thanks again
getinked said:
I just rooted/nand yesterday on 1.47 w/ 1 click simpleroot ota. it was super easy and painless.
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You had unrevoked 3 before the SimpleRoot?
getinked said:
I just rooted/nand yesterday on 1.47 w/ 1 click simpleroot ota. it was super easy and painless.
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So you can use simple root after downloading the official 1.47 and regain full root access?
teedo757 said:
So you can use simple root after downloading the official 1.47 and regain full root access?
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...anyone?
teedo757 said:
So you can use simple root after downloading the official 1.47 and regain full root access?
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The official 1. 47 yes. The official froyo 3. 26 whatever it is hell no. They have a simple root 3 step for 1. 32 dig deep in development thread. Chillin and good luck.
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teedo757 said:
so if I don't care about running custom roms (only really interested in wireless tether) then upgrading the phone...breaking root...and then just running unrevoked3 would be my best option?
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The only way you can update to 2.2 AND have root is to go to full root/nand unlock...
Use simpleroot imo and then flash the ROOTED stock froyo rom.
pongoface said:
The official 1. 47 yes. The official froyo 3. 26 whatever it is hell no. They have a simple root 3 step for 1. 32 dig deep in development thread. Chillin and good luck.
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sweet. Thanks
Hi,
My main issue is that i want to do the simpleroot to unlock the nand and gain full root.
The problem is that my Evo is "rooted" with unrevoked 3 at OTA 1.47
I want would like to know if its safe to run simple root while having unrevoked 3.
I need some help here guru's!.
I want to start using the CM or the DamageControl ROMS.
Thank you in advance guyz!
I think this has been asked and answered, but I'm pretty sure it's safe to just run SR over the top. If you're really worried, can't you uninstall Unrevoked using an uninstaller app, and then do SR?
The reason I'm pretty sure it's fine is that several rooting guides recommend using Unrevoked to partially root so you can install Titanium Backup and backup your apps and such, then do a full root afterwards. And since SR is just an automated manual root, it should be no problem.
Even so, you should root manually if you want to learn. Just my opinion, though.
Thanx, ill try it! Thanx for your help!
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I was in your same boot buddy. The problem isn't rooting your phone if you used the Unrevoked method. It's unlocking the nand that your having issues with. What I did after much trial and effort is using the adw commands to unlock the nand on my phone. Simpleroot won't work on your phone if you used Unrevoked. Well, I couldn't get it to work.
If you still have your phone rooted with Unrevoked follow this link and it'll hook you up.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/07/20/how-to-unlock-nand-on-the-htc-evo-4g/
It seems hard, but it was actually pretty easy.
kevinjt said:
I want would like to know if its safe to run simple root while having unrevoked 3.
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That is exactly how I did it. I wanted a nand backup of my stock(just in case), so I did Unrevoked3 first. Once I did the backup, I used the simpleroot 1.47......worked perfectly
Thank guyz , im going To try both methods. And ill let you know the outcome. Thaaaanks
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FWIW:
I was rooted with Unrevoked3 and loading Titanium Backup didn't work. TB said I didn't have full root access.
I ran the first half (step 1) of SimpleRoot last night on top of Unrevoked3.
At this point I don't know how to check to see if nand is unlocked or not, but I was able to flash a Froyo ROM and now Titanium Backup works as well.
SOLVED!
afflictionx said:
I was in your same boot buddy. The problem isn't rooting your phone if you used the Unrevoked method. It's unlocking the nand that your having issues with. What I did after much trial and effort is using the adw commands to unlock the nand on my phone. Simpleroot won't work on your phone if you used Unrevoked. Well, I couldn't get it to work.
If you still have your phone rooted with Unrevoked follow this link and it'll hook you up.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/07/20/how-to-unlock-nand-on-the-htc-evo-4g/
It seems hard, but it was actually pretty easy.
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If you have my issue, then this is your answer!,
Thank you! Im full rooted, with nand unlocked, and running the Cyanogen RC1
Thank you Again !
No Problem
kevinjt said:
If you have my issue, then this is your answer!,
Thank you! Im full rooted, with nand unlocked, and running the Cyanogen RC1
Thank you Again !
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Glad you just didn't have to go through the hours of trial and error I did. Congrats!
What are all the things I need become a full root user?
What do I need to use everything and have everything?
Like Unrevoked forever or 3.21 rooting?
Custom recovery,custom Rom,kernel,free WiFi tethering,nand unlock and backup,what apps to have everything and how to become a superuser and update the radio(if necessary)
How to back up my Rom in Rom manager.
Please step by step.
And in order please,
I need to learn how to do all of this.
Can someone help me with all the content of new to root?
I need to know what I need to do and how to do it.
What I'm missing and how I can back things up.
Like how to get nand unlock and backup.
How I install Roms and update the radio? Is that still needed?
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Theunlockr.com has instructions and video as well to help you. Always use cyanogen.
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Also go to androidspin.com
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The newest one click root method found on this site gives you full root access now. Nand unlocked and s-off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
Ok.. so I'm absolutely new to this rooting and flashing roms and stuff. I want to install the SkyRaider 4.0 ROM. I believe the first step I need to do before I can install this ROM is to root my phone? Do I do this through Unrevoked or through ADB??? Like in this link? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709220 . I checked the WIKI for DInc and it doesn't mention anything about ADB.. So do I need to do that??
So lost. Thanks so much for your help guys
Use the unrevoked program, its so simple, literally one click. Once you have root you'll want to make a backup in recovery before you flash skyraider.
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k_nivesout said:
Use the unrevoked program, its so simple, literally one click. Once you have root you'll want to make a backup in recovery before you flash skyraider.
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Thanks. So what's up with ADB? Will I need it at all? Do I need to follow the guide as in the link I posted above?
First root using the unrevoked program as mentioned above. Then post back for more help on the ROM flashing.
I wouldn't worry about adb right now. Don't need to use it for rom, kernel, radio flashing.
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Honestly, I've never even had to use ADB. Definitely not required. It's nice to have sometimes. But usually something like root explorer will suffice.
*should have refreshed first.
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Gotcha. So what's the diff between Unrevoked 3 and unrevoked forever? http://unrevoked.com/#inc
Unrevoked forever gives you permanent root. That is definitely the way to go, and the best way to get your ROM successfully flashed. ( And stay that way ).
Also let's you flash unsigned files in hboot, like radios and splash screens.
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Just thought I'd add that you can also go back to stock S-ON later on if needed (warranty replacement, etc).
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k_nivesout said:
Just thought I'd add that you can also go back to stock S-ON later on if needed (warranty replacement, etc).
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And in case he doesn't know what S-ON and S-OFF means, it refers to the state of the security "flag" on your device. With S-OFF, your warranty is void, however you can turn the security back on as well if you need to take it into verizon or something.. Using unrevoked forever, it will turn S-ON to S-OFF.
Can SkyRaider work with S-ON? aka without dealing with Unrevoked Forever at the moment?
No, I don't believe it will. Is there a reason not to do unrevoked forever? It take less than 5 minutes to complete
wurzzz said:
Can SkyRaider work with S-ON? aka without dealing with Unrevoked Forever at the moment?
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You should be able to. S-OFF is the way to go through, you can still revert S-ON later.
The whole "security" title it has is meaningless against actually security of your phone, with S-OFF you're more free to tweak your phone.
wurzzz said:
Gotcha. So what's the diff between Unrevoked 3 and unrevoked forever? http://unrevoked.com/#inc
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Unrevoked for the Inc comes with Forever already, hence S-off
Hope this helps
xirftwx said:
No, I don't believe it will. Is there a reason not to do unrevoked forever? It take less than 5 minutes to complete
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S-OFF is not required to flash ROMs. Its required for radio flashing and splash screen changing though.
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Blah12543 said:
S-OFF is not required to flash ROMs. Its required for radio flashing and splash screen changing though.
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I see, but I hadn't done unrevoked forever (yet I still had root) and flashed over my first ROM... didn't have much luck. It ended up reverting to stock everything automatically, which was really strange. Haven't had any problems since S-OFF though.
Well, I did both unrevoked3 and forever in the end. Got it up and running with skyraider now =) thanks for all your help guys!
xirftwx said:
I see, but I hadn't done unrevoked forever (yet I still had root) and flashed over my first ROM... didn't have much luck. It ended up reverting to stock everything automatically, which was really strange. Haven't had any problems since S-OFF though.
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Huh, thats odd. I was rooted and S-ON when I first did my starter ROM: SkyRaider 2.something lol. Didn't encounter any problems except for wonky audio with flash, but that was an easy fix. That was back when stock Incs were rockin' Eclair lol... Sorry bout my off topic reminiscing :S
I'm glad you got everything running good OP! Enjoy the wonderful world of the rooted Incredible!
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Yeah, S-OFF isn't required for ROM's. I flashed many ROM's before S-OFF was even out for the incredible. Back in the 2.1 days
does anyone know if its possible to unlock the emmc write protect on an slcd incredible running 3.21.605.1 firmware?
its a junk spare phone im trying to revive,and i need to get it s-off and a working recovery. becasue of the issues it has,unrevoked does not work.
because of s-on,flastboot flash does not work. nor does using z4 for temp root then flashing CW with rom manger.
becasue of s-on,emmc write protct i cant use rewrite mmcblk0p21 with a new image,it just boots to the ! and triangle.
any ideas? if i can get a recovery,i can get s-off,then have some other options to try and repair it.
thANx in advance for any info
Is that froyo or eclair? unrevoked should work.
Unrevoked has s-off for froyo and eclair which is why I asked.
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No... the phone has issues,unrevoked will not work,as I mentioned above.
3.22.605.1 is the oldest froyo you can run on a scld without getting the black screen.
I can get temp root with zergRush or psneuter,but I can't flash a recovery without disabling the write protect. Wpthis is not working.
Thanks for the reply.
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scotty1223 said:
No... the phone has issues,unrevoked will not work,as I mentioned above.
3.22.605.1 is the oldest froyo you can run on a scld without getting the black screen.
I can get temp root with zergRush or psneuter,but I can't flash a recovery without disabling the write protect. Wpthis is not working.
Thanks for the reply.
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you are froyo right?
why doesnt unrevoked 3.32 work?
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3
make sure you have the hboot drivers installed on your pc too
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install
i have done this to 4 different SLCD phones with no problems.
scotty1223 said:
No... the phone has issues,unrevoked will not work,as I mentioned above.
3.22.605.1 is the oldest froyo you can run on a scld without getting the black screen.
I can get temp root with zergRush or psneuter,but I can't flash a recovery without disabling the write protect. Wpthis is not working.
Thanks for the reply.
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unrevoked forever. You flash from hboot. All it does is disable write protect so you can flash custom update.zips such as clockwork.
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synisterwolf said:
you are froyo right?
why doesnt unrevoked 3.32 work?
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3
make sure you have the hboot drivers installed on your pc too
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install
i have done this to 4 different SLCD phones with no problems.
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*sigh*
yes,unrevoked 3.32 works fine for normal,functional slcd incredibles. this is not my first rodeo,trust me it wont work on this one,as i mentioned it has issues. specifically it forgets all its settings every boot,including personal data and user apps. its literally like a factory data reset every time the phone is booted. to add to that,there is only a few minute window that i can do anything in the OS before things start force closing and the phone is literally unuseable.
running unrevoked boots the phone to hboot,does some things,then reboots. when it comes up i have to manually re-check usb debugging to get it to continue. it runs root,then fails,every time. i have run it several times in a row,it wont work.
trying to get permanent root with z4 or visionary does not work either,due to the described reboot issue.
getting temp root with z4 or visionary sometimes works,sometimes will even let me flash clockwork with rom manager,but the recovery does not actually get written due to the s-on and write protect.
tiny4579 said:
unrevoked forever. You flash from hboot. All it does is disable write protect so you can flash custom update.zips such as clockwork.
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unrevoked forever is flashed in a custom recovery,not in hboot. i need recovery for that to work,and i need to unlock emmc write protect to get a recovery.
see this for info in forever: http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
if you know of something different,please let me know.