Hi,
My main issue is that i want to do the simpleroot to unlock the nand and gain full root.
The problem is that my Evo is "rooted" with unrevoked 3 at OTA 1.47
I want would like to know if its safe to run simple root while having unrevoked 3.
I need some help here guru's!.
I want to start using the CM or the DamageControl ROMS.
Thank you in advance guyz!
I think this has been asked and answered, but I'm pretty sure it's safe to just run SR over the top. If you're really worried, can't you uninstall Unrevoked using an uninstaller app, and then do SR?
The reason I'm pretty sure it's fine is that several rooting guides recommend using Unrevoked to partially root so you can install Titanium Backup and backup your apps and such, then do a full root afterwards. And since SR is just an automated manual root, it should be no problem.
Even so, you should root manually if you want to learn. Just my opinion, though.
Thanx, ill try it! Thanx for your help!
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I was in your same boot buddy. The problem isn't rooting your phone if you used the Unrevoked method. It's unlocking the nand that your having issues with. What I did after much trial and effort is using the adw commands to unlock the nand on my phone. Simpleroot won't work on your phone if you used Unrevoked. Well, I couldn't get it to work.
If you still have your phone rooted with Unrevoked follow this link and it'll hook you up.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/07/20/how-to-unlock-nand-on-the-htc-evo-4g/
It seems hard, but it was actually pretty easy.
kevinjt said:
I want would like to know if its safe to run simple root while having unrevoked 3.
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That is exactly how I did it. I wanted a nand backup of my stock(just in case), so I did Unrevoked3 first. Once I did the backup, I used the simpleroot 1.47......worked perfectly
Thank guyz , im going To try both methods. And ill let you know the outcome. Thaaaanks
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FWIW:
I was rooted with Unrevoked3 and loading Titanium Backup didn't work. TB said I didn't have full root access.
I ran the first half (step 1) of SimpleRoot last night on top of Unrevoked3.
At this point I don't know how to check to see if nand is unlocked or not, but I was able to flash a Froyo ROM and now Titanium Backup works as well.
SOLVED!
afflictionx said:
I was in your same boot buddy. The problem isn't rooting your phone if you used the Unrevoked method. It's unlocking the nand that your having issues with. What I did after much trial and effort is using the adw commands to unlock the nand on my phone. Simpleroot won't work on your phone if you used Unrevoked. Well, I couldn't get it to work.
If you still have your phone rooted with Unrevoked follow this link and it'll hook you up.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/07/20/how-to-unlock-nand-on-the-htc-evo-4g/
It seems hard, but it was actually pretty easy.
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If you have my issue, then this is your answer!,
Thank you! Im full rooted, with nand unlocked, and running the Cyanogen RC1
Thank you Again !
No Problem
kevinjt said:
If you have my issue, then this is your answer!,
Thank you! Im full rooted, with nand unlocked, and running the Cyanogen RC1
Thank you Again !
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Glad you just didn't have to go through the hours of trial and error I did. Congrats!
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Hi all,
Which is better to root my evo? Simpleroot or Unrevoked? Or does it even matter?
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martymania85 said:
Hi all,
Which is better to root my evo? Simpleroot or Unrevoked? Or does it even matter?
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I just ran Simpleroot in less than an hour (that includes downloading and installing .NET 4 framework and rebooting my computer and restoring my backed up data). Unrevoked has never worked for me.
unrevoked literally took me 3 minutes. just pick one and do it..
I guess the better question is will you have any limitations if you use unrevoked3 instead of simple root (in terms of flashing custom roms)?
I thought unrevoked doesn't unlock NAND? I used simple root then followed the thread, how to start over: fully rooted update 1.47, to unlock NAND and get su permissions app.
MikeC84 said:
I thought unrevoked doesn't unlock NAND?
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Yes, but as of version 3.0 the unrevoked homepage says this:
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Does unrevoked3 give me root?
Yes. It previously did not; as of version 3.0, it does.
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What does this do, then?
unrevoked3 will replace the stock Android recovery with a custom one, which adds many features including “nandroid” backups, the ability to use custom ROMs, and a greater amount of flexibility and customization of your Android phone. "
Even though it doesn't unlock NAND...
can anyone speak to whether there is an advantage of using simpleroot on a pre OTA EVO vs letting the OTA update run and then using unrevoked 3?
Safe to say that unrevoked versus simple root is just different gui's but the end result is the same?
How to Root non OTA EVO 4G
How do I root new EVO 4G with software #1.32.651.6? Also how do I put a .zip on SD card? Should I use Simple Root or Unrevoked? Thanks in advance.
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Ok I have a rooted hero and my boss has the evo so I don't get to updating it much. I used unrevoked to root the phone when they first came out and have installed no updates so far. I saw I missed unrevoked2 and 3 and reading the notes on the website leaves me with more questions then answers. I tried running the recovery console from hboot but it gave me a red triangle with !.
So now I am trying to figure out how to update since I can't access the recovery screen. Can I just update to 1.42 and then run the unrevoked3 and have full root access? Any suggestions. Thanks
that sounds like it should work, do it quick though because when froyo 2.2 comes out, u might not be able to root.
and btw unrevoked 3 is not a full root, if u use simple root it is, and just as easy, might take 15 min. though
When you are at that screen with the red triangle hold volume up and press power that should get you into the boot screen.
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Rocklee99 said:
and btw unrevoked 3 is not a full root, if u use simple root it is, and just as easy, might take 15 min. though
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What is the difference between full root and what unrevoked 3 get you?
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What is the difference between full root and what unrevoked 3 get you?
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You unlock NAND which means you can make changes to the file system. If you want to remove stock apps, make any file changes or want to install custom ROMs, then you need NAND unlocked. Careful though, it downgrades your PRI and there is NO way to upgrade it again, even if you return to stock. If you are able to do what you need with what unrevoked provides, you are better off sticking with it.
superlinkx said:
You unlock NAND which means you can make changes to the file system. If you want to remove stock apps, make any file changes or want to install custom ROMs, then you need NAND unlocked. Careful though, it downgrades your PRI and there is NO way to upgrade it again, even if you return to stock. If you are able to do what you need with what unrevoked provides, you are better off sticking with it.
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so if I don't care about running custom roms (only really interested in wireless tether) then upgrading the phone...breaking root...and then just running unrevoked3 would be my best option?
Can I just install the deodexed version of froyo released today?
Yes but you have to be fully rooted...nand unlocked...and have a recovery flashed to download that.
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Dont do update 1.42....
My advise, don't update to 1.42, unistall unrevoked and do Toast root 1 and 2 method, then you'll have nand unlocked so you can flash a 1.42 rom already rooted, after that you can flash any Froyo flavor you want.
teedo757 said:
so if I don't care about running custom roms (only really interested in wireless tether) then upgrading the phone...breaking root...and then just running unrevoked3 would be my best option?
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Do not upgrade manually, i repeat, DO NOT UPGRADE, it would be difficult later to get the full root
I just rooted/nand yesterday on 1.47 w/ 1 click simpleroot ota. it was super easy and painless.
mikevillarroel said:
My advise, don't update to 1.42, unistall unrevoked and do Toast root 1 and 2 method, then you'll have nand unlocked so you can flash a 1.42 rom already rooted, after that you can flash any Froyo flavor you want.
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I looked over at toasts website and did not see a root program he is providing yet. Were you referring to simple root? Thanks again
getinked said:
I just rooted/nand yesterday on 1.47 w/ 1 click simpleroot ota. it was super easy and painless.
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You had unrevoked 3 before the SimpleRoot?
getinked said:
I just rooted/nand yesterday on 1.47 w/ 1 click simpleroot ota. it was super easy and painless.
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So you can use simple root after downloading the official 1.47 and regain full root access?
teedo757 said:
So you can use simple root after downloading the official 1.47 and regain full root access?
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...anyone?
teedo757 said:
So you can use simple root after downloading the official 1.47 and regain full root access?
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The official 1. 47 yes. The official froyo 3. 26 whatever it is hell no. They have a simple root 3 step for 1. 32 dig deep in development thread. Chillin and good luck.
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teedo757 said:
so if I don't care about running custom roms (only really interested in wireless tether) then upgrading the phone...breaking root...and then just running unrevoked3 would be my best option?
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The only way you can update to 2.2 AND have root is to go to full root/nand unlock...
Use simpleroot imo and then flash the ROOTED stock froyo rom.
pongoface said:
The official 1. 47 yes. The official froyo 3. 26 whatever it is hell no. They have a simple root 3 step for 1. 32 dig deep in development thread. Chillin and good luck.
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sweet. Thanks
Hey folks,
Just QQ, has anyone tested whether VISIONary works on HTC Desire? I've dug into other threads here and found out it works on both HTC Desire HD and HTC Desire Z but I couldn't find anything in terms of HTC Desire.
Cheers!
I think it will work as it says it perm roots non nand locked devices. Try it
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ste1164 said:
I think it will work as it says it perm roots non nand locked devices. Try it
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Please excuse my ignorance but could you explain what are NAND/eMMC locked devices?
Whatever NAND/eMMC locked devices are, I have just installed VISIONary version r10 from the Android market on my unbranded, unrooted HTC Desire and tried to get temp root but it simply didn't work
Anyway I hope HTC Desire will be supported in next releases as it's great idea to temporarily become a root only when it's needed and using one-click app from the market.
Hi folks, it looks like we can finally very easily get a temproot on Desire
I've just installed the latest version of VISIONary+ (r14) from http://android.modaco.com/content/software/320350/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/ Once I opened the app and clicked "Temproot now" then after ~20sec I got a temproot - take a look at attached screenshots as an evidence
The root access has been lost after shutdown/reboot a phone as intended.
Hmm... Looks interesting.. Have to try it.
And would be more interesting to see if Titanium works while temprooted.. Can anyone confirm?
droidzone said:
And would be more interesting to see if Titanium works while temprooted.. Can anyone confirm?
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I've installed a free version of Titanium Backup! 3.6.0 from the market so can confirm that it works fine while temprooted
So you can backup without having to root?? Sounds good
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So you can backup without having to root?? Sounds good
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Yup..Best news ever!
Now people wont have to root just for backup and apps!
Now..If someone would create a Temp Recovery and get Nandroid working! Too much to ask, I know!
Shame you need pro to backup apps...
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Yup..Best news ever!
Now people wont have to root just for backup and apps!
Now..If someone would create a Temp Recovery and get Nandroid working! Too much to ask, I know!
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Quoting my own post cos I wrote something wrong
Fake flash is already there. Paul and Koush released it a long time ago!
droidzone said:
Quoting my own post cos I wrote something wrong
Fake flash is already there. Paul and Koush released it a long time ago!
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It's not a fake flash as VISIONary don't flash anything on your phone whatsoever It's just yet another way to get a superuser on your desire. To be honest I am not entirely sure what it works but based on what already found out it seems to me that it's kinda exploit.
EddyOS said:
Shame you need pro to backup apps...
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I've already tested Titanium Pro and it works fine while temprooted too. Take a look at attached screenshot
Btw, why did you think it's not supposed to work? please note that actually there no difference between "be rooted" and "be temprooted" In both of cases you're logged on the OS as a root Of course while you're "temprooted", you'll lose your superuser level of permissions after reboot/restart your device what means you'll need to use VISIONary again to get temproot later if needed.
nitemarc said:
It's not a fake flash as VISIONary don't flash anything on your phone whatsoever It's just yet another way to get a superuser on your desire. To be honest I am not entirely sure what it works but based on what already found out it seems to me that it's kinda exploit.
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Yup..I wasnt talking about Visionary, but about my other post about a wish for a Fake Nandroid. But apparently that isnt about Fake Flash isnt about that either!
I've temp rooted using VISIONary (thanks Paul) and that's as far as I'm willing to go atm. I've installed Titanium, SetCPU and the cache cleaner app. Very nice indeed but what else can I do now with temp root?
You can't do much with temp root apart from use root needed apps.
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Would the temproot be gone if you tried to use clockworkmod recovery (from the update.zip rather than a flashed recovery partition) to then do a NAND backup since the phone reboots?
beartiger said:
Would the temproot be gone if you tried to use clockworkmod recovery (from the update.zip rather than a flashed recovery partition) to then do a NAND backup since the phone reboots?
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no i tried and since the phone is "shut down" while in recovery then clockworkmod doesnt appear, only the stock recovery appears.
Ok.. so I'm absolutely new to this rooting and flashing roms and stuff. I want to install the SkyRaider 4.0 ROM. I believe the first step I need to do before I can install this ROM is to root my phone? Do I do this through Unrevoked or through ADB??? Like in this link? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709220 . I checked the WIKI for DInc and it doesn't mention anything about ADB.. So do I need to do that??
So lost. Thanks so much for your help guys
Use the unrevoked program, its so simple, literally one click. Once you have root you'll want to make a backup in recovery before you flash skyraider.
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k_nivesout said:
Use the unrevoked program, its so simple, literally one click. Once you have root you'll want to make a backup in recovery before you flash skyraider.
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Thanks. So what's up with ADB? Will I need it at all? Do I need to follow the guide as in the link I posted above?
First root using the unrevoked program as mentioned above. Then post back for more help on the ROM flashing.
I wouldn't worry about adb right now. Don't need to use it for rom, kernel, radio flashing.
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Honestly, I've never even had to use ADB. Definitely not required. It's nice to have sometimes. But usually something like root explorer will suffice.
*should have refreshed first.
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Gotcha. So what's the diff between Unrevoked 3 and unrevoked forever? http://unrevoked.com/#inc
Unrevoked forever gives you permanent root. That is definitely the way to go, and the best way to get your ROM successfully flashed. ( And stay that way ).
Also let's you flash unsigned files in hboot, like radios and splash screens.
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Just thought I'd add that you can also go back to stock S-ON later on if needed (warranty replacement, etc).
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k_nivesout said:
Just thought I'd add that you can also go back to stock S-ON later on if needed (warranty replacement, etc).
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And in case he doesn't know what S-ON and S-OFF means, it refers to the state of the security "flag" on your device. With S-OFF, your warranty is void, however you can turn the security back on as well if you need to take it into verizon or something.. Using unrevoked forever, it will turn S-ON to S-OFF.
Can SkyRaider work with S-ON? aka without dealing with Unrevoked Forever at the moment?
No, I don't believe it will. Is there a reason not to do unrevoked forever? It take less than 5 minutes to complete
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Can SkyRaider work with S-ON? aka without dealing with Unrevoked Forever at the moment?
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You should be able to. S-OFF is the way to go through, you can still revert S-ON later.
The whole "security" title it has is meaningless against actually security of your phone, with S-OFF you're more free to tweak your phone.
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Gotcha. So what's the diff between Unrevoked 3 and unrevoked forever? http://unrevoked.com/#inc
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Unrevoked for the Inc comes with Forever already, hence S-off
Hope this helps
xirftwx said:
No, I don't believe it will. Is there a reason not to do unrevoked forever? It take less than 5 minutes to complete
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S-OFF is not required to flash ROMs. Its required for radio flashing and splash screen changing though.
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Blah12543 said:
S-OFF is not required to flash ROMs. Its required for radio flashing and splash screen changing though.
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I see, but I hadn't done unrevoked forever (yet I still had root) and flashed over my first ROM... didn't have much luck. It ended up reverting to stock everything automatically, which was really strange. Haven't had any problems since S-OFF though.
Well, I did both unrevoked3 and forever in the end. Got it up and running with skyraider now =) thanks for all your help guys!
xirftwx said:
I see, but I hadn't done unrevoked forever (yet I still had root) and flashed over my first ROM... didn't have much luck. It ended up reverting to stock everything automatically, which was really strange. Haven't had any problems since S-OFF though.
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Huh, thats odd. I was rooted and S-ON when I first did my starter ROM: SkyRaider 2.something lol. Didn't encounter any problems except for wonky audio with flash, but that was an easy fix. That was back when stock Incs were rockin' Eclair lol... Sorry bout my off topic reminiscing :S
I'm glad you got everything running good OP! Enjoy the wonderful world of the rooted Incredible!
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Yeah, S-OFF isn't required for ROM's. I flashed many ROM's before S-OFF was even out for the incredible. Back in the 2.1 days
this works for me can't promise that it would work for anyone else....but if you use z4root and get temporary root you can then use rom manager to fully root your phone which will last after reboot and everything....
z4root gives you temporary root and Rom manager lets you flash a custom recovery/roms.
I don't see how a combination of the two would or could give you a NAND Unlock.
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Autoroot 2.5 ;-)
zerosquared said:
z4root gives you temporary root and Rom manager lets you flash a custom recovery/roms.
I don't see how a combination of the two would or could give you a NAND Unlock.
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He is correct... s-off / nand unlock is necessary for full root.. the evo is easy to root anyways....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
all i know is that i have done it twice and everything works including backing up or restoring
Thanks for this. I've had evo since launch, and it was easy to root 2.1, but am terrified if i need a freeplacement.
I'm sure ill try this first.
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scottspa74 said:
Thanks for this. I've had evo since launch, and it was easy to root 2.1, but am terrified if i need a freeplacement.
I'm sure ill try this first.
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Typically you don't have to worry about it for a freeplacement, If you root it all you have to do is flash a stock RUU and everything will go back to orignial. I had to take my wifes for repaired yesterday due to the flash quit working. I just installed a stock RUU from sprint. Had it fixed, went home re-rooted and restored with nandroid and you would never know.
Just use unrevoked. Its super easy to fully root your phone.
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worked for me on a friends htc hero. The download I used though gave my computer a virus and was caught by windows defender after the fact so be carefull were you download it from.
but the thing you will be missing is the ability to do a NANDbackup! Among other things that full root gives you.
Active_Matrix said:
but the thing you will be missing is the ability to do a NANDbackup! Among other things that full root gives you.
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Your right again Active Matrix. Ha Ha
wheres link to download zroot?
SayWhat10 said:
wheres link to download zroot?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953