Hey folks,
Just QQ, has anyone tested whether VISIONary works on HTC Desire? I've dug into other threads here and found out it works on both HTC Desire HD and HTC Desire Z but I couldn't find anything in terms of HTC Desire.
Cheers!
I think it will work as it says it perm roots non nand locked devices. Try it
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ste1164 said:
I think it will work as it says it perm roots non nand locked devices. Try it
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Please excuse my ignorance but could you explain what are NAND/eMMC locked devices?
Whatever NAND/eMMC locked devices are, I have just installed VISIONary version r10 from the Android market on my unbranded, unrooted HTC Desire and tried to get temp root but it simply didn't work
Anyway I hope HTC Desire will be supported in next releases as it's great idea to temporarily become a root only when it's needed and using one-click app from the market.
Hi folks, it looks like we can finally very easily get a temproot on Desire
I've just installed the latest version of VISIONary+ (r14) from http://android.modaco.com/content/software/320350/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/ Once I opened the app and clicked "Temproot now" then after ~20sec I got a temproot - take a look at attached screenshots as an evidence
The root access has been lost after shutdown/reboot a phone as intended.
Hmm... Looks interesting.. Have to try it.
And would be more interesting to see if Titanium works while temprooted.. Can anyone confirm?
droidzone said:
And would be more interesting to see if Titanium works while temprooted.. Can anyone confirm?
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I've installed a free version of Titanium Backup! 3.6.0 from the market so can confirm that it works fine while temprooted
So you can backup without having to root?? Sounds good
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So you can backup without having to root?? Sounds good
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Yup..Best news ever!
Now people wont have to root just for backup and apps!
Now..If someone would create a Temp Recovery and get Nandroid working! Too much to ask, I know!
Shame you need pro to backup apps...
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Yup..Best news ever!
Now people wont have to root just for backup and apps!
Now..If someone would create a Temp Recovery and get Nandroid working! Too much to ask, I know!
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Quoting my own post cos I wrote something wrong
Fake flash is already there. Paul and Koush released it a long time ago!
droidzone said:
Quoting my own post cos I wrote something wrong
Fake flash is already there. Paul and Koush released it a long time ago!
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It's not a fake flash as VISIONary don't flash anything on your phone whatsoever It's just yet another way to get a superuser on your desire. To be honest I am not entirely sure what it works but based on what already found out it seems to me that it's kinda exploit.
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Shame you need pro to backup apps...
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I've already tested Titanium Pro and it works fine while temprooted too. Take a look at attached screenshot
Btw, why did you think it's not supposed to work? please note that actually there no difference between "be rooted" and "be temprooted" In both of cases you're logged on the OS as a root Of course while you're "temprooted", you'll lose your superuser level of permissions after reboot/restart your device what means you'll need to use VISIONary again to get temproot later if needed.
nitemarc said:
It's not a fake flash as VISIONary don't flash anything on your phone whatsoever It's just yet another way to get a superuser on your desire. To be honest I am not entirely sure what it works but based on what already found out it seems to me that it's kinda exploit.
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Yup..I wasnt talking about Visionary, but about my other post about a wish for a Fake Nandroid. But apparently that isnt about Fake Flash isnt about that either!
I've temp rooted using VISIONary (thanks Paul) and that's as far as I'm willing to go atm. I've installed Titanium, SetCPU and the cache cleaner app. Very nice indeed but what else can I do now with temp root?
You can't do much with temp root apart from use root needed apps.
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Would the temproot be gone if you tried to use clockworkmod recovery (from the update.zip rather than a flashed recovery partition) to then do a NAND backup since the phone reboots?
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Would the temproot be gone if you tried to use clockworkmod recovery (from the update.zip rather than a flashed recovery partition) to then do a NAND backup since the phone reboots?
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no i tried and since the phone is "shut down" while in recovery then clockworkmod doesnt appear, only the stock recovery appears.
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I got a brand new desire phone recently. some how I was lucky enough to get an imported phone with a local licence, how that happened I have no idea.
The thing is I love the current stock Rom I have because it has certain discontinued apps I've been trying to hunt down + the market app which hasn't been licensed in this region yet.
I still want to have root access to my phone. How do I rip the current Rom and root my phone with it? I also want to try and port it over to my old Legend and customize it a bit.
I would also be happy to provide it publicly here or on the shipped roms website if I'm successful. The phone is unbranded and unlocked so there should be no legal issues with HTC or network carriers.
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You can't backup BEFORE rooting but you can AFTER - once you've got your custom recovery on the handset you can use it to perform a backup of your phone as it is onto the SD card so should anything go wrong you can just restore it.
However, you might wanna look at the app I've attached to this reply - it can be used to backup apps to your SD card and doesn't need root. That way you can always reinstall them on newer ROM versions that don't have it
(To install it, extract the file from the ZIP and copy it to your sd card...then open a file manager and install using that)
Thanks, I'll give that app a try. But still there must be some kind of way to rip an image of the Rom? I'm going to need the image as backup and I want port that Rom over to the Legend if possible.
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Without root you simply can't do it as you don't have access to the /system partition
ok i'm a bit confused now, doesn't the root process already include flashing a custom ROM? so if i root the phone so i can access my stock ROM i'm gonna lose it either way becase of the rooting?
if thats the case then how do stock roms even exist publicly? sort of like which came first, the chicken or the egg?
i might be wrong but this is what i understood from the UnrEVOked rooting tutorials i read
Rooting doesnt involve a flash now, so once rooted u can backup the stock, rooted ROM. Then u can flash a custom ROM
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This applies to unrEVOked too right?
Thank you so much for bearing with me
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Yes. If u root using unrEVOked it only roots the phone. U can then do a nandroid backup before flashing a new ROM
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EddyOS said:
Yes. If u root using unrEVOked it only roots the phone. U can then do a nandroid backup before flashing a new ROM
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Unrevoked dose flash
It flashes a recovery image
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But it doesn't flash a new ROM so you can back up your existing one before flashing a new one
just to make sure i've been going through some tutorials again and they eventually led me to rootmydroid.com where i asked them about this issue. i got this answer:
"unrEVOked flashes a custom recovery image that is different from the stock one.
If you don’t want this maybe you should try VISIONary (google it)"
I did google VISIONary and it seems to be an app you can install on your phone and root it right on the spot, however going through the comments it doesn't seem to work on the Desire. I'm gonna test it myself on both the Desire and Legend and see if it works. i'll post back here with the results. if i got it working and managed to rip the rom i'll write a guide, i know its simple but it took me quite some searching and reading to get to this point.
VISIONary is an app developed by Paul/Modaco if anyone is wondering
A lot easier to just use unrEVOked - VISIONary was developed for the Desire HD
VISONary worked like a charm for the Legend, MUCH easier than the complex tutorial over at the Legend forums, but the downside is i have to work harder to get a backup whereas if I had rooted using other methods a recovery tool like nandroid would've been automatically installed. now although its rooted i'm still searching for a way to backup the legend.
VISIONary doesn't support the Desire so unrEVOked is the only way to go.
also i seem to have gotten 2 things confused: Recovery and ROM. after quite some reading let me see if i've got down the differences right.
when you say unrEVOked flashes a custom recovery it means it changes the default recovery mode to a custom one like say NANDroid or AmonRA which gives you the option to back up your ROM, correct? the ROM is an image of the OS itself which you can backup/restore with a recovery.
confusing those two made me run around in circles for a while but thanks to that i've learned quite a lot. I'm gonna try unrEVOked on my Desire and search for a way to backup the Legend, i'll ask around on the Legend forum and see where that goes.
i'll post back my results with the Desire here.
thanks Eddy
this works for me can't promise that it would work for anyone else....but if you use z4root and get temporary root you can then use rom manager to fully root your phone which will last after reboot and everything....
z4root gives you temporary root and Rom manager lets you flash a custom recovery/roms.
I don't see how a combination of the two would or could give you a NAND Unlock.
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Autoroot 2.5 ;-)
zerosquared said:
z4root gives you temporary root and Rom manager lets you flash a custom recovery/roms.
I don't see how a combination of the two would or could give you a NAND Unlock.
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He is correct... s-off / nand unlock is necessary for full root.. the evo is easy to root anyways....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
all i know is that i have done it twice and everything works including backing up or restoring
Thanks for this. I've had evo since launch, and it was easy to root 2.1, but am terrified if i need a freeplacement.
I'm sure ill try this first.
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scottspa74 said:
Thanks for this. I've had evo since launch, and it was easy to root 2.1, but am terrified if i need a freeplacement.
I'm sure ill try this first.
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Typically you don't have to worry about it for a freeplacement, If you root it all you have to do is flash a stock RUU and everything will go back to orignial. I had to take my wifes for repaired yesterday due to the flash quit working. I just installed a stock RUU from sprint. Had it fixed, went home re-rooted and restored with nandroid and you would never know.
Just use unrevoked. Its super easy to fully root your phone.
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worked for me on a friends htc hero. The download I used though gave my computer a virus and was caught by windows defender after the fact so be carefull were you download it from.
but the thing you will be missing is the ability to do a NANDbackup! Among other things that full root gives you.
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but the thing you will be missing is the ability to do a NANDbackup! Among other things that full root gives you.
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Your right again Active Matrix. Ha Ha
wheres link to download zroot?
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wheres link to download zroot?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
I just bought a used HTC Desire.
And I tried to root it, but i can't
I have tried Revoke and Revulotionary.
Can you guys help me?
Is my HTC Desire already rooted??
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I just bought a used HTC Desire.
And I tried to root it, but i can't
I have tried Revoke and Revulotionary.
Can you guys help me?
Is my HTC Desire already rooted??
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Seriously ?? 2.1 ??!!
First install official 2.3.3 (you can download it from htcdev.com) then use revolutionary .
edit : sorry didn't see the first pic !! yep , I think you're rooted . Is there an app named "Superuser" in your menu ?? if yes you're rooted .
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Seriously ?? 2.1 ??!!
First install official 2.3.3 (you can download it from htcdev.com) then use revolutionary .
edit : sorry didn't see the first pic !! yep , I think you're rooted . Is there an app named "Superuser" in your menu ?? if yes you're rooted .
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No there is not a "superuser" app
Where can I download the official 2.3.3? I can't find it
You are S-OFF but doesn't have the Superuser app yet most definitely.
To get root, you have to flash superuser zip found on Revolutionary FAQ page. Read it and it's there. Third FAQ item if my memory serves me correct.
Alternatively you can just flash a custom rom and it will have superuser out of the box.
EDIT: Here read common problems and questions. It's item number 4
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
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You are S-OFF but doesn't have the Superuser app yet most definitely.
To get root, you have to flash superuser zip found on Revolutionary FAQ page. Read it and it's there. Third FAQ item if my memory serves me correct.
Alternatively you can just flash a custom rom and it will have superuser out of the box.
EDIT: Here read common problems and questions. It's item number 4
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What do I do with the flash files? Do they go on to the sd card or what?
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What do I do with the flash files? Do they go on to the sd card or what?
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Save that zip file on your SD card.
Choose Recovery on the hboot menu.
Depending on what recovery you have, look for something that says flash/install from sd card
select the file and let it do it's work
reboot
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Save that zip file on your SD card.
Choose Recovery on the hboot menu.
Depending on what recovery you have, look for something that says flash/install from sd card
select the file and let it do it's work
reboot
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What do I do?
Looks like you haven't flashed a custom recovery yet...
Since you're using a desire with german language, I suspect that you speak german ;-)
Before you play around with your device, I think it's better to read and understand what you're doing. Therefore, brutzelstube.de is a great german website specially about rooting and modding the desire. Maybe you should just read the tutorials there and see what your device is capable of. If you need to ask what to do next for every step, you probably won't have much fun with your rooted desire. Especially if you want to flash a custom rom.
As it is a used device, what about the one who owned the device before? Can't you ask him what exactly he did?
You could also just install and run an app that requires root (like Titanium Backup or Rom Manager) and see what happens...
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You could also just install and run an app that requires root (like Titanium Backup or Rom Manager) and see what happens...
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Seriously? Rom manager..... Fail
Like stankyou says, you need to flash a custom recovery and you'll need to flash superuser before you try to install any app that requires root access
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Seriously? Rom manager..... Fail
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Well, first of all there was the question if root-access works or not. Looks like the answer was no, but just trying it out does no harm. And since Rom Manager requires root, it should be ok for testing, just like any other root app. I didn't say he would need it.
Or he could just look in app drawer for the superuser app
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I got it rooted and got custom rom on it Thnx
Enjoy
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Or he could just look in app drawer for the superuser app
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Sure, but since I saw more than one case where some apps didn't show in app drawer, I don't trust the app drawer anymore ;-)
@philipo84, have fun - now your phone is really smart ;-)
Hello All,
I'm looking for a way to temporary root my Android Desire Z ... What should I need to know at first, and what is the tools that I should use. Also, how can I unroot the phone after that ... Thanks.
Assuming you are on gingerbread, run the 'Gaining Temp-root' and 'Temp-rooting to backup' from this guide
To undo it, just reboot the phone.
-Nipqer
sikas said:
Hello All,
I'm looking for a way to temporary root my Android Desire Z ... What should I need to know at first, and what is the tools that I should use. Also, how can I unroot the phone after that ... Thanks.
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use visionary, then be unhappy when you are holding a brick
im just kidding, dont temp root - full root. there few good reasons not too, amd you can always unroot your phone.
anyway why do you need temp root? something specific i gather?
demkantor said:
use visionary, then be unhappy when you are holding a brick
im just kidding, dont temp root - full root. there few good reasons not too, amd you can always unroot your phone.
anyway why do you need temp root? something specific i gather?
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Hello,
I need to test some apps that requires root access .. so I wanted to temporary root the device and then unroot it once finished using the apps.
The guide nipqer linked you to will suffice, after your test is complete I suggest you consider permentley rooting your phone as I'm sure you will be most happy this way
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The guide nipqer linked you to will suffice, after your test is complete I suggest you consider permentley rooting your phone as I'm sure you will be most happy this way
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Well, if I'm satisfied, I'll definitly perminant root it
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I have another thing, how can I be sure that the device is rooted? I mean, how can I test it??
download an app that requires root and then see if it works, i think there is even an app that just checks for root
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I have another thing, how can I be sure that the device is rooted? I mean, how can I test it??
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download terminal emulator from the market and type in the command "su"
I bought myself a Nexus 4.
Now i'm trying to move everything from my current Desire HD.
Data like pics , music and so i'll just do manually trough pc , contacts i exported to SD and then imported them in Google , apps go trough play store and for text i'll use an sms backup app.
The problem is app data and settings.
There are some backup apps that can do it but they either require root or abdroid 4.0 and up.
My DHD is stock and unrooted , so my question , is there another option , way around it , very easy root method or whatever lets me backup the app data and settings ?
You need root and titanium backup.
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Is there an easy way to root ? (doesn't need to be permanent i guess)
If you tell us which version of android you have we can advise you better...
Before rooting, Maybe you could try using "js backup" it's supposed to be able to backup without root, but, I've never not been rooted while using it, so can't be sure how good it is.
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Deuces73 said:
My DHD is stock and unrooted
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If you tell us which version of android you have we can advise you better...
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So it's 2.3.5
Deuces73 said:
So it's 2.3.5
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Just FYI, "stock and unrooted" is not necessarily 2.3.5.
bananagranola said:
Just FYI, "stock and unrooted" is not necessarily 2.3.5.
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Yeah , my bad
(just assumed it was , as in stock has latest update)
Came across Carbon App Sync and Backup while googling solutions.
It is the predecessor of Helium and it should work for GB to (helium requires 4.0 or up).
Found the apk for it but can't open it on my phone , it says " prblom with pasing the package " , what does that mean ?
Deuces73 said:
Yeah , my bad
(just assumed it was , as in stock has latest update)
Came across Carbon App Sync and Backup while googling solutions.
It is the predecessor of Helium and it should work for GB to (helium requires 4.0 or up).
Found the apk for it but can't open it on my phone , it says " prblom with pasing the package " , what does that mean ?
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As far as I know, Carbon/Helium has always been 4.0 and up?
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As far as I know, Carbon/Helium has always been 4.0 and up?
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Googled some more and it appears that way indeed , bummer ...
Seems like rooting is the only way , so can someone point me out the easiest way to do that ?
Deuces73 said:
Googled some more and it appears that way indeed , bummer ...
Seems like rooting is the only way , so can someone point me out the easiest way to do that ?
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Ace Think Tank in my signature.
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Googled some more and it appears that way indeed , bummer ...
Seems like rooting is the only way , so can someone point me out the easiest way to do that ?
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My backup pro does backup without root. I have never used it so, I can really know how it works but I know that works without root access.
glevitan said:
My backup pro does backup without root. I have never used it so, I can really know how it works but I know that works without root access.
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Yeah , but this is what i found in the play store :
Gebruikers met root toegang kunnen zowel APK+Data als Market links back-uppen
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Users with root access can backup APK+Data and market links
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So i would think that it won't backup app data+settings without root ?
(if it was a free app i obviously would have tried it already)
Edit : it even says literraly :
NOTE: Data/setting of applications can only be supported if you have a rooted phone, or if the application integrates with us.
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Have you tried JS BACKUP to see if that works on nonrooted phone?
Edit: just realised you can "unroot" phone in superSU temporarily, tried it myself it backs up, but FC trying to restore, so it must need root too :thumbdown:
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Ace Think Tank in my signature.
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Was looking into that but read this :
UNLOCKING THE BOOTLOADER WILL FACTORY RESET THE DEVICE AND YOU WILL LOSE DATA
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So i'm f ' ed either way ?
Root = loose data
Unrooted = no way to backup ...
I thought that only happens when you run a RUU. Can someone confirm?
I can confirm, bootlader will factory reset the device.
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thanks don't hurt ya know?
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So no way to get my app data to my new phone ?
No one that has a soluton for me ?
glevitan said:
My backup pro does backup without root. I have never used it so, I can really know how it works but I know that works without root access.
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I use my backup pro. Its way simpler than titanium backup, and there is a free version but I paid for the pro. My backup will nack everything up for you but if your not rooted then it isnt able to access the app data so cant back it up. I dont think you will be able to find a solution without rooting. When I rooted I used the AAHK which is no longer available on xda as the dev fell fell out of love with them but can be found through google.
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I use my backup pro. Its way simpler than titanium backup, and there is a free version but I paid for the pro. My backup will nack everything up for you but if your not rooted then it isnt able to access the app data so cant back it up. I dont think you will be able to find a solution without rooting. When I rooted I used the AAHK which is no longer available on xda as the dev fell fell out of love with them but can be found through google.
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But like stated before , rooting will factory reset my phone wich means my app data is last anyway ...