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HI
I am awaiting delivery of my diamond from orange, i was woundering if the orange version is any different to the standard version, and if it is can i flash the rom so it goes back to the standard htc version because i think orange changes the phones to much
Currently its a stock ROM from what I can tell. No GUI customisation at all.
Orange Diamond
I got the orange diamond on the 10th July and I does not have any orange customization at all its still the black and white HTC look.
Would be interesting to see what yours has
Iam in the UK
it would also be good to know what version on Radio Rom you have as I am in takes with orange to get me Radio v1.00.25.05 which is supposed to make the battery last longer
If any one out there is having the same problem they MUST call orange and get to talk to handset faults in Plymouth as so fat they have only had mine and another user call with the problem and it thats all they get they will be slow in getting the update available.
HTC will not give me the Hotfix but have confirmed it exists but I have to get it from orange who say they do not have it
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE any orange Diamond users call orange about the problem.
jsmith_00 said:
HI
I am awaiting delivery of my diamond from orange, i was woundering if the orange version is any different to the standard version, and if it is can i flash the rom so it goes back to the standard htc version because i think orange changes the phones to much
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hi, mate can you do me a favour. can you post the oroginal rom. I have been searching whole forum but could not find any.
@ lenaddison - PM sent.
I have radio version prior to the one you mention too... battery lasts around 5 ish hours with moderate use. 2 Days old Diamond.
Tried to register it on the HTC site but will not allow it... so cannot get an update that way.
Great device apart from a few things that HTC should sort with newer software - which I believe is available but not in the Uk
lenaddison said:
I got the orange diamond on the 10th July and I does not have any orange customization at all its still the black and white HTC look.
Would be interesting to see what yours has
Iam in the UK
it would also be good to know what version on Radio Rom you have as I am in takes with orange to get me Radio v1.00.25.05 which is supposed to make the battery last longer
If any one out there is having the same problem they MUST call orange and get to talk to handset faults in Plymouth as so fat they have only had mine and another user call with the problem and it thats all they get they will be slow in getting the update available.
HTC will not give me the Hotfix but have confirmed it exists but I have to get it from orange who say they do not have it
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE any orange Diamond users call orange about the problem.
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Does anyone know if this is still the case and that Orange branded Diamonds come with standard HTC software??
I've got a Diamond coming this week and I'm not keen on the Orange branding i've seen online, and all this ROM flashing business seems way over my head!
So to sum up, will the Diamond I receive from Orange UK have the normal HTC black and white look, or the Orange branded software?
Thanks!
I think you will have the orange cooked rom...
I received mine at 16/07 and it come with all orange things (even the box is customized !)
Yodajr said:
I think you will have the orange cooked rom...
I received mine at 16/07 and it come with all orange things (even the box is customized !)
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Damn. How hard is it to get the original black and white HTC ROM onto the device? And what are the risks, i.e. how easy to permanently bugger it up is it!!
It's hard to understand what and how to do, but it seem a easy procedure...
It seem because I don't did it myself, I still reading topics on that forum, there are a LOT of informations, it take time to read everything
One thing to start : you can flash the rom of your device, and you have the choice between the original HTC rom (the stock rom) and customized versions of this stock rom (there are a lot on this forum)
The risks ? brick your phone
(or maybe yours will be orange free and you'll dont need all of this )
I'm on the Uk Orange network and my Diamond didn't have any orange branding on the software. It has a small Orange logo on the back of the handset, it also came with a nice leather slip case. The box t came in was the normal Orange affair with the 2 for 1 cinema tickets adverts etc.
Incedently i've painlessly flashed the TLR 3 ROM following the easy to follow instructions on the start of the thread for the ROM.
I've not massivley noticed any difference. It's is slightly faster and the few tweaks within the ROM make the phone more user friendly. Dont expect miracles from an extended battery life due to an updated radio. Again I cant notice any difference.
Is anyone else of the opinion that the music player within TF3D is completely useless? Mine only seems to play the first 30 seconds of a song and I cant 'flick' through my albums.
That aside, I am very impressed with the phone and actually think its much better than my brothers 3g iPhone. Largely due to the efforts of the talented programers that contribute on this site - Thanks guys
see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409939
hey all.
Had my desire since first came out in march, not really thought about rooting till now with froyo.
So basically im scared to root due to the number of usb bricking, yet i want to root to get froyo, but with release date of June hanging around i question whether to just wait.
So be nice for a list of pros and cons of rooting, for me, and probably the other number of people who are in the same situation as me.
thanks
Well the usb bricking issues can be fixed now so that is no longer a problem.
Pros for rooting:
1.You can customise the handset till your heart is content. This includes removing sense if you don't like it, or even removing system apps that you hate. Friend stream, peep, and stocks spring to mind!
2. You will most probably get the latest firmware before the official updates are rolled out by HTC.
3. You can use apps that need root like setcpu, and titanium backup.
4. Froyo test roms are available and work extremely well with a few minor niggles/bugs.
Cons:
You invalidate your warranty.
I'm really only touching the surface with this list. If you are confident in rooting then I can see no reason to hold back!
Yer think i will have to root, new update has just confirmed, waiting for htc, then t-mobile will just annoy me!
To do with warrenty, i have insurance so if my phone breaks, i can just claim on that anyway? pay little excess and sorted surely??
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Well the usb bricking issues can be fixed now so that is no longer a problem.
Pros for rooting:
1.You can customise the handset till your heart is content. This includes removing sense if you don't like it, or even removing system apps that you hate. Friend stream, peep, and stocks spring to mind!
2. You will most probably get the latest firmware before the official updates are rolled out by HTC.
3. You can use apps that need root like setcpu, and titanium backup.
4. Froyo test roms are available and work extremely well with a few minor niggles/bugs.
Cons:
You invalidate your warranty.
I'm really only touching the surface with this list. If you are confident in rooting then I can see no reason to hold back!
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i'm not sure if its true but my friend said that even if you root your phone htc will still replace the phone for you if anything happens.
can anyone confirm this is true? or heard anything similar to this situation?
even if you root it, you can always return to a proper stock ROM and they won't notice anything, there isn't anything on the Desire that screams "I'VE BEEN ROOTED/UNLOCKED" like the N1.
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even if you root it, you can always return to a proper stock ROM and they won't notice anything, there isn't anything on the Desire that screams "I'VE BEEN ROOTED/UNLOCKED" like the N1.
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Not necessarily true. If you root and then your phone subsequently dies, you may not be able to flash a stock ROM back again.
However, anecdotal evidence suggests that HTC don't bother to actually try to diagnose a fault in a phone, and just replace the mainboard as a matter of course.
Regards,
Dave
Im tempted to root but I've read so many horror stories surrounding bricked Desires.
What recovery is there for USB bricked Desires now? Links?
Guys i am orange uk contract and have insurance on hc desire. I have rooted desire and is working fine. lets say anything goes wrong with it. do i send to orange or htc for repair. what if i send it to htc for repair won't orange say why didn't you send it to us?. I am paying £6 per month on insurance. what do i do will orange repiar the phone even though its rooted or will they say you have broke the term of insurance?
There is no uk orange stock rom so i can revert back to. Will i be screwed if anything goes wrong?
I didn't even release how many questions i have asked in this forum. Please pardon my english.
personally I dont think they'll be to bothered if you have taken the effort to send it to them, the Orange repair centre probably even has the capability to flash the Orange ROM to it anyway. Also if its a hardware fault then they dont need to touch the software really.
Of course this is just my opinion, not fact but in this life you have to be bold to succeed and also be prepared to accept failure. @ronaldo, if you send it to HTC, Orange aren't gonna give a **** are they lol
How long does it take to root? Looked at some guides doesnt seem to take too long.
might go for it when i have a whole day spare to play with it etc...
after all, htc said when they now details about rooting, they would release a schedule, as nothing has been released yet, think it might be a while untill it comes officially.
I bricked my Orange Hero when putting a new ROM on it and they did a nxt day exchange, obv I didn't say id rooted it, just said it wouldnt switch on after rooting. Not sure they do the whole repair centre thing anymore
What are the chances to brick my desire. If i brick it is there any fix.
I am asking because I promised to my wife that this will be the last phone that I will buy. I am one step away from rooting it.
I believe there is a fix for bricking it now???
Not 100% sure though
Phil750123 said:
I believe there is a fix for bricking it now???
Not 100% sure though
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There is indeed. If you do manage to brick it, you just need to follow some simple instructions in the dev forums to bring it back.
do you need to have your phone rooted to update your radio? :s
ronaldo9_r9 said:
Guys i am orange uk contract and have insurance on hc desire. I have rooted desire and is working fine. lets say anything goes wrong with it. do i send to orange or htc for repair. what if i send it to htc for repair won't orange say why didn't you send it to us?. I am paying £6 per month on insurance. what do i do will orange repiar the phone even though its rooted or will they say you have broke the term of insurance?
There is no uk orange stock rom so i can revert back to. Will i be screwed if anything goes wrong?
I didn't even release how many questions i have asked in this forum. Please pardon my english.
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I pay for insurance too. I had to send my Touch HD back 8 TIMES, YES EIGHT! I had it flashed, they never said nething... If you're worried as you pay for insurance, if it goes wrong u've lost it haven't you... Nothing to send back, plus nice new battery
Exactly. Software isn't a problem for them, so off the record they can just plug it in and reflash it with whatever firmware they want too. If we can do it, they can do it more
Just gotta be bold (and lie a little).
Just a thought on the whole insurance thing, perhaps you could tell them you lost the phone if your worried it wont be repaired. excess is usually the same or just a little bit more. (edit: just notice gunja said the same thing, great minds think alike )
step too far
diggedy said:
Just a thought on the whole insurance thing, perhaps you could tell them you lost the phone if your worried it wont be repaired. excess is usually the same or just a little bit more. (edit: just notice gunja said the same thing, great minds think alike )
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not telling them you've flashed it and sending it back to HTC to reflash it back is one thing, but pretending you've lost it and claiming on your insurance is a bit cheeky. Not to mention definitely illegal...
He he I get the hint. I went to Orange shop asked them i want unlock code for my Orange HTC desire. That guy said if you do that it will void guarantee. Is he right? I want to unlock on all network. Does that really void it?
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Hey all... just a quick question to set my mind at ease please...
Just bought a desire on ebay .. supposedly unwanted t mobile UK upgrade... brand New in box...paid 270 for itwhich I thought was a decent price...
I'm just a little worried about stuff on eBay though and wonder if there's anything I should check for to make sure its ok... any known problems I should be looking for or a reason someone would want rid in a hurry... as it was a 1 day sale.. many thanks for any help.
Nobody can advise what to look for? Is it at least possible to check how many minutes the phone has been used for ? (
Bought a Black HTC Desire on ebay.. £350.. box was still sealed - all good. But the chap selling it did live at the top of my road! LOL
Unlocked - just about to flash it!
Chivalryyyy said:
Hey all... just a quick question to set my mind at ease please...
Just bought a desire on ebay .. supposedly unwanted t mobile UK upgrade... brand New in box...paid 270 for itwhich I thought was a decent price...
I'm just a little worried about stuff on eBay though and wonder if there's anything I should check for to make sure its ok... any known problems I should be looking for or a reason someone would want rid in a hurry... as it was a 1 day sale.. many thanks for any help.
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thats a good deal, i got mine off ebay for £295, the main things u wanna check are the obvious, check the screen and the casing, check the battery for damage, turn it on and make sure you desire dosent have the pink screen tint problem, put it under some heavy usage and see if u get any random reboots ect and lastly plug it in while using it and make sure the device duznt get too hot, if your happy after doing all that ur sorted lol
If it's a stolen phone, it is possible that the IMEI has been blacklisted.
See here for more details.
Regards,
Dave
When you get it use the dialler to type *#*#4636#*#* then tap usage statistics. This will tell you how long each application has been used for. Obviously if it's brand new these should read 0.
It should be wrapped in a cellophane type wrapper that folds in all weird ways around it! It's all one piece. I would do all the usual checks, and look closely at it to ensure it hasn't been dropped etc.
Don't forget if it's a Tmobile upgrade then it will likely be locked to Tmobile and require an unlock code if you aren't on the same network!
It should come supplied with a 4gb micro SD card installed in the phone, the battery, usb lead, wall charger that you plug the usb lead into, earphones, and a few wee booklets. All the leads, charger etc should be in sealed bags.
Thanks all.... I've been using it since last night and seems allls well... gets quite warm at the.base of the back .. but I assume they all generate some heat ...
Checked the timers.. and sense was showing 3 hours.. but as I been using it a day that obviously me.. was in box all cellofaned up.. and all bits in sealed bags..
What's the pink screen problem ? Is it very noticeable ?
The 1 thing o did notice is there was an option to have something light up on receipt of mail or sms. I assume its the center of the optical tracker but I haven't noticed it light up once... should it? And hoe can I check? Thanks again for all the advice.. had set my mind at ease. )
The light for notifications is the one you see when you charge. There is no light at the trackpad.
socktug said:
Don't forget if it's a Tmobile upgrade then it will likely be locked to Tmobile and require an unlock code if you aren't on the same network!
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If it is the case, is it then possible to "unlock" it by flashing another ROM onto it? Just wondered cause I'm looking at one that might be locked to vodafone (upgrade).
Puccifer said:
If it is the case, is it then possible to "unlock" it by flashing another ROM onto it? Just wondered cause I'm looking at one that might be locked to vodafone (upgrade).
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No. A new rom gives you new phone software. To unlock it you need to go to Vodafone, or the cheaper and better option in my opinion, buy a code online!
The story goes like this:
I have a Desire and today saw a local Ad where a guy sells a Htc Desire Z stuck at boot after upgrading. Thats the only info provided.
Now, the price is around 160 euros or 222 us dollars.
I have lots of experience with root/s-off from the Desire and anything with that shouldn't be a problem.
My questions are:
Is there a way to brick this phone?
Can it be somehow unbricked?
If the guy tried to update the phone to the latest one, can i root it then or downgrade it perhaps and root then?
Thank you very much whoever answers this.
Well hopefully some brighter folks than I can ellucidate whether it is possible to get out of a bootloop.
What I can offer however is my opinion on the purchase overall. $222USD is a good chunk of change. If there's a chance that it is not recoverable, I don't think it would be worth the gamble. Now if it were the nearly unbrickable Vibrant or something, I'd say go for it.
I bought my G2 in near mint condition for $275.
It all depends, Is it S-off? Does he have a custom recovery installed? Can you boot into Hboot and then into recovery(Clockworkmod Recovery)? If so then you probably can install a rom on the sdcard and flash them from recovery.
If its in a boot loop with S-on I would not touch it.
Boot loop with S-ON means it still has Nand protection which means you can't do shiz with it. I do have a little story though.
Bought a G1 off craigslist and shortly after the screen started acting wonky so I said what the hell and called Tmo. Explained the problem and hoped theyd have some pointers since the G1 was new and resources like this didn't exist at the time. They ended up being able to look up the phone and determined it still had warranty time left on the device so they exchanged it for me. Sometimes warranty carries over with phones. I'd call Tmo before I bought though and have them go ahead and send me a refurb then go buy the bootlooped one and send it back.
Supposedly he tried to install a different ROM which implies that he's rooted.
That should be fixable then, right?
Or is s-off really necessary for the Z?
UPDATE:
he just lowered the price to around 100 euros.
hiko36 said:
Boot loop with S-ON means it still has Nand protection which means you can't do shiz with it. I do have a little story though.
Bought a G1 off craigslist and shortly after the screen started acting wonky so I said what the hell and called Tmo. Explained the problem and hoped theyd have some pointers since the G1 was new and resources like this didn't exist at the time. They ended up being able to look up the phone and determined it still had warranty time left on the device so they exchanged it for me. Sometimes warranty carries over with phones. I'd call Tmo before I bought though and have them go ahead and send me a refurb then go buy the bootlooped one and send it back.
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I actually just did something similar. I bought a used G2 that was in perfect physical working order but with physical blemishes etc. and was about 3months old. About a week later dust started to accumulate under the screen. Even though the phone was used and I was on a EM+ plan with no contract and I didnt purchase the phone from a T-mo store, they still replaced it for free. More of a statement about how great T-mo support is than anything, but I think its interesting that they will support the device even though its used.
Now anything more than this is quite borderline not very ethical depending on who you ask, but I wouldn't really feel like buying a bootlooped phone just to try and send it back to T-mo and claim you don't know what happened. If that was very possible then the guy that currently has the phone would probably have done that already...
Yeah, i bought it.
The problem is/are it won't boot or turn on at all.
I'll send it to the repair shop to see if anything can be done.
And guess what.
Do you remember when the HTC vision/g2/desire z got leaked?
This picture here
It turns out, it's the same phone
THE SAME PHONE, Look at the serial numberl
DanijelDesire said:
Yeah, i bought it.
The problem is/are it won't boot or turn on at all.
I'll send it to the repair shop to see if anything can be done.
And guess what.
Do you remember when the HTC vision/g2/desire z got leaked?
This picture here
It turns out, it's the same phone
THE SAME PHONE, Look at the serial numberl
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PLEASE tell me you kept that. That would be like getting that first iphone that homeboy lost in the bar.
Hi,
I had Sandvold's ICS 0.16 installed and disabled vibration when ring and my Desire reset...
Now, all it does is sit there with a black screen buzzing..
Battery out reset, removed sdcard, etc..
I've tried getting into recovery mode via power+back & power+voldn, etc.
No joy at all.
PC cannot see the phone when plugged in via USB (tried running RUU, that couldn't see it).
My main questions:
Is there any method available to recover from this? I've tried what I can (understand) but obviously no luck..
The phone's under warranty.. but guess this will be void as I'm s-off, etc etc? Will HTC be able to detect this?
See the link in my signature.
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Thanks.. guess you meant the last link 'How the HTC works.."
If so. are you implying that my radio has corrupted and so it's shagged (or the bootloader's knackered... how could that happen?)
How can I tell which of those scenarios is the one I've got? Hpw do I know it the radio hast started?
If it is the radio that's knackered, I flashed that over a week ago and the mobiles been power-cycled many times in that period...
Or am I missing the point here?
I have another working Desire, could that help me in anyway to get the broken Desire to work....?
Oh well, with the lack of responses I guess the phone's bricked :crying:
Main question I have is if it's sent back to HTC, are they likely to fix it under warranty in its current state?
Added to this, anyone know what I did wrong, so I don't do it with my other Desire.
kevcal said:
Oh well, with the lack of responses I guess the phone's bricked :crying:
Main question I have is if it's sent back to HTC, are they likely to fix it under warranty in its current state?
Added to this, anyone know what I did wrong, so I don't do it with my other Desire.
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As I could see many users are complaining for getting a permanenr brick after installing ICS roms, and most of them after Sandvold one. Just take a look at bricked threads in the past month or so. Am I right?
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Hadn't realised that - would have avoided the ICS route if I had.
Was happy with SuperNova until I thought Sandvold's ICS was stable
Still can't figure what actually went wrong.
It may be that it's not about rom, but you never know.
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Well sending it off to HTC, hoping they'll fix it under warranty........:fingers-crossed:
THIS LIMITED WARRANTY SHALL NOT APPLY IF THE DEFECT WAS CAUSED THROUGH ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:
a) the Product serial number, the accessory date code the IMEI number, water indicator or the warranty seal has been
removed, erased, defaced, altered or is illegible; or
b) deterioration of the Product due to normal wear and tear; or
c) use other than in accordance with the user manual, rough handling, exposure to moisture, dampness or extreme thermal
or environmental conditions or a rapid change in such conditions, corrosion, oxidation, unauthorized modifications
or connections, unauthorized opening or repair, repair by use of unauthorized spare parts, accidents, forces of nature, or
other actions beyond the reasonable control of HTC (including but not limited to deficiencies in consumable parts) unless
the defect was caused directly by defects in materials or workmanship. This Limited Warranty does not cover physical
damage to the surface of the Product including but not limited to cracks or scratches on the LCD screen or camera lens; or
d) the defects caused by the fact that the battery has been short-circuited or by the fact that the seals of the battery
enclosure or the cells are broken or show evidence of tampering or by the fact that the battery has been used in
equipment other than those for which it has been specified; or
e) the defect was caused by a defective function of the cellular network or other system; or
f) the Product software needs to be upgraded due to changes in cellular network parameters; or
g) the defect was caused by the fact that the Product was used with or connected to an accessory not approved or provided
by HTC or used in other than its intended use and where it can be shown by HTC that such defect is not the fault of the
Product itself.
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Well sending it off to HTC, hoping they'll fix it under warranty........:fingers-crossed:
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g) the defect was caused by the fact that the Product was used with or connected to an accessory not approved or provided
by HTC or used in other than its intended use and where it can be shown by HTC that such defect is not the fault of the
Product itself.
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Reading that makes me think they won't since rooting your phone and installing custom roms is against the intended use by HTC and in this case it really wouldn't be their fault. Having said that, if you contact them and they say they will then by all means get it fixed and I hope it turns out well for you
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Reading that makes me think they won't since rooting your phone and installing custom roms is against the intended use by HTC and in this case it really wouldn't be their fault. Having said that, if you contact them and they say they will then by all means get it fixed and I hope it turns out well for you
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"used with or connected to an accessory"..
Doesn't sound like anything to do with roms to me... just unsupported hardware..?
Ah , reading the next bit I see what you mean:
"used in other than its intended use"... well I used it as a phone ...
Act dumb @ htc shop
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Exactly.
Mobile's been returned Hopefully repaired(!) - will find out when I get home..!
Still wish I knew what I did though that caused the brick - bit apprehensive about playing around with it now!
Bricks are relatively rare though I guess.
Looks to me that Radio was corrupted - ie no charging light, but it did constantly buzz...
I programmed the radio over a week before it failed.. could it have flashed badly and setting Sandvold's ICS to 'not buzz when ringing' accessed something bad in the radio ROM and caused it to corrupt??
This doesn't sound likely...?
Next question is (bearing in mind I'm gonna avoid Sandvold's ICS just in case it was that!), what do I go for.
Questions I have...
I guess for a fully functioning mobile, the only option is to stick with GB..?
Do I need to go S-OFF any more to install ROMs?
Do I need a custom HBOOT any more?
Kev
kevcal said:
Questions I have...
I guess for a fully functioning mobile, the only option is to stick with GB..?
Do I need to go S-OFF any more to install ROMs?
Do I need a custom HBOOT any more?
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1. based on your second and third questions, yes, stick with GB. 'fully functioning' definition varies between users, but the fact that the JB and ICS roms have Alpha/BETA status should tell you what you need to know. the choice is still yours though!
2. not strictly necessary, but is much more useful if things go wrong. so use revolutionary to s-off
3. if you're asking this question i wonder whether you know what the custom hboots are? you flash a custom hboot depending on the rom's system size. should be in the first post of each rom, if not search the thread for 'hboot'...strictly speaking you don't necessarily need a custom hboot, but most of the time you'll run out of space much quicker if you don't. once you understand what the hboot partition tables are it will make sense . you need s-off to change hboot, so this pretty much answers question 2.
Okay will stick with GB for now.. then again the JB roms are looking better all the time...
Okay will S-OFF again.. just wondered if it could have had any bearing on why my mobile bricked.
You're right - not really sure what a custom Hboot is.. it allocates different sized partitions for specific roms then?
Will have a read to try to understand things a bit more.
Thanks for clarification or at least putting me on the road to clarification(!)
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not really sure what a custom Hboot is.. it allocates different sized partitions for specific roms then?
Will have a read to try to understand things a bit more
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http://alpharev.nl/
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Typical - phone worked for 24 hours...
Now, doesn't power on.. screen stays black - no vibrate when I push power button.
Green led turns on when plugged into usb, when I press the power button the green led goes off, but screen still black - nothing happening.
Power button with 'back' or 'vol-down' depressed does nothing, black screen only.
Any ideas, or do I return it (again).
This will be the 4th time - will they be amenable to giving me a replacement do you think?
Well mobile back from HTC a second time; ran fine for a couple of days, so installed Supernova and all running fine now.
Gone S-OFF but left flashing radio alone - seems to work with 5.11.05.27 fine.
So that's it, will avoid ICS, etc just in case, but have no idea whether that's why the phone got screwed...
Mmm.. have now installed Mildwild with no problems..
Really think it was something to do with Sandvold'd ICS release, but have no way of knowing..!