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Storage Memory

My XDA 2s is reporting that 18.49mb of storage memory is being used at present and I only have the default per savebackup there after a hard reset how can I clear the Storage area?
Many thanks

I've cleared everything off the Blue Angel out of the Storage folder and even tried restoring the official O2 1.31 ROM and even on the 1st reload with just the persavebackup folder that contains just a few small files the memory applet reports that 18.49 meg of of 43mb storage area is already used? I'm sure all 43mb this area was available before?
Has anyone any idea what this could be, is there likely to be a hidden folder there I can't see? Is there a utility available for viewing hidden files? I even tried the trial version of resco explorer but it does not show anything there. Or is there a way of moving the persavebackup to the SD card so I can gain exclusive access to storage and perform a format?
Thanks for any help this is really starting to puzzle me.

How to manage RAM without a new ROM?

My Wallaby (with Windows PPC 2002) is too central to my life for me to risk losing it by daring to flash it with a new ROM. This means that new tools, ringtones and things have to go into its mere 32 MB of RAM. On the other hand, this RAM is also cluttered up with "skins", sounds and things (including a version of Windows Media Player that has always resolutely refused to work) that Microsoft, HTC et al. have decided I must have. Mostly if I try to delete them, either using its native File Explorer, or via the cradle with Explorer from my computer (Windows XP Pro SP2, local adminstrator account on the PC), I get an error message, "File in use or write protected", that sort of thing, i.e. I'm not allowed to delete them.
Can anyone help me with the following?
- An explorer tool which will let me see and change attributes and permissions where necessary, and delete unwanted files from RAM?
- Any information on possible Windows PPC 2002 equivalents of accounts, local, administrator, etc.? My unsuccesful attempts to delete files have a distinctly "not local administrator" feel.
Another thing that would be marvellous, would be the option to use the (currently 128 MB) SD card as a sort of hard drive, i.e. to put large executables on to that and start them with something like a shortcut, so that they only load into RAM when they're actually needed. Can anyone tell me any more about whether this is possible, and if so how?
Thanks to all in advance.

you cant delete files in rom of the device and even if you could it would not add more program memory or storage on wallay you can only access the rom at flashtime
and at all other times it's readonly and dont take up any of the ram of your device

Thanks for your reply, Rudegar, but I'm looking to delete things from RAM, for instance \\device\program files\windows media player\*.* Am I wrong to think all this stuff loaded from ROM into RAM after the last cold reset?

Oops, I just discovered I can delete the files mentioned above (and did), from the native File Explorer. However, when I tap and hold \\device\windows\player (the media player executable, presumably player.exe) the "delete" option is greyed out in the context menu.

total commander is way better then file explore

I installed Total Commander, with thanks to Rudegar, and to Lumpistefan for being able to use his site as a hop. It's certainly a better tool for file management, but I'm not yet able to delete files I want to.
Roaring guitar.wav is a sound I particularly hate, and a colleague at work is already using it as his ringtone. Therefore there is no way I want to keep that ringtone in RAM. Total Commander lets me see the attributes, which are Read only, System (and in ROM, grey of course). It seems as if I can "greytick" and untick Read only and System, but when I come back to the file these attributes are there again. If I try to delete Roaring guitar.wav using Total Commander I get the message "Warning! Could not delete 1 file(s)!".
As I said, all this has a very "not local administrator" feel to it.
I tried searching the registry for "roaring" but the string was not found. I also cautiously experimented with switching the values of the following keys between 0 and 1:
HKLM\ControlPanel\AdminPassword\Group
HKLM\ControlPanel\Password\Group
but neither had any discernible effect on the behaviour described. Of course Roaring guitar.wav is just an example (and no offence meant to my colleague), I would like to remove a number of sounds and wallpapers I'll never use, and free up some more of my poor Wallaby's hard-pressed 32 MB RAM for everyday use.
Does anyone know how I could do it?

Hate to tell you this, but if TC says the file is in ROM, its in ROM and you can not delete it.
I am not familiar with Wallaby in particular but I guess the file your are attacking is not copied in to RAM. No reason to do so.
Windows Mobile was never designed for multiple users so no 'local / remote' administrator and stuff. Just trust me when I say this, if you can't delete it - it is in ROM.
There are two programs I can recommend:
MemMaid - it will show you exactly what is clogging up your RAM and automatically clean out what it can.
CabInstl - this little free app will let you choose where to install programs so you can put most of your apps on the SD.
Also in ActiveSync, when asked if to install to default location select 'NO' and you will get an option to install to SD.
One more hint:
You can keep all your themes, including the one you are currently using on the SD. Once you selected and installed the theme the *.tsk file is no longer needed.
When my iPaq was my only and primary PPC I also struggled with 32MB RAM (total). I kept everything on my trusty 512MB SunDisk except what I needed on startup.

Memory trouble! Fusion?

Hello everyone!
As usual let's start with the description of my current situation:
I have a HTC P3300, with the official HTC WM6 Update.
I have also installed the HTC Touch layout, provided in this forum. ;-)
I have a MicroSD of 2 Gb, only half full.
Now after two years I am starting to notice a loss of speed of my PDA (yeah I know, the P3300 is not the fastest machine so I should not be surprised, and I am not)
Some programs won't start anymore because of "not enough memory". Current Solution: I have to start my P3300 again.
My "Running Programs List" is always empty, so no need to look for a solution there.
The solution is clearly to be found in the Memory status:
Storage 2.50 Mb of 32.45 Mb (and Program 18.25 Mb of 47.90 Mb)
So what I am thinking of:
1. Is there any possibility with the Regeditor to do some kind of fusion of the "Storage and Program Memory", so that I can use the available space on the "Program"side needed on the "Memory"side?
2. Or in case that's impossibe, can something be done about those temp files, without starting the P3300? (best would be that they are deleted immediately after the program that has created them is closed)
3. Or if even this is impossible, can't I use the empty space from my MicroSD Card? Of course the files should also be deleted automatically.
So I hope I have explained clearly enough the problem and my preffered solutions. I am gratefull for every help offered. I was always pleased with this forum, and this time I am awaiting nothing less! Thanks alot in advance.

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I think that’s normal the last time, lots of readers but no solutions, most of them download a rom and after that it’s done, no feedback en no help when someone have a problem. Only when the have a problem there self than the know to scream here at XDA. Sorry I'm not that tech that I can help you.

Your device has very little internal storage free, best solution is to move large files, and install software to your memorycard.
Your program memory seem to be normal.
Some cooked rom's have far more storage memmory than the official wm6.
My device have around 30 diffrent software's installed mostly to memorycard, i have 36mb internal memory left and 18-21 program memory.
I have moved most of the content of my documents to memory card to free upp internal storage.
I dont think you can change the relationship between internal storage and program memory, to do that you have to change to another rom.
You can try oxios hibernate to release program memory, visit oxios homepage to see if it's something for you.

Thanks for the help.
My Documents are all on the memorycard. Well, except the "my documents" that are put per default on the P3300, so let's say my REAL documents are on the card.
Concerning the programs, unfortunately those I have installed hadn't any possibilities to be installed on the card (except for some program's extensions, like for example TomTom's maps).
So after this my choices are pretty limited.
But thanks anyway that someone has tried his best.

Install big programs to the memory card instead of the storage memory.
With meschle's Artemis Touch 4.02 full with no cube, TomTom installed amongst other applications (Phone's been on for two days with Tomtom running and activesync:
Storage:
Total: 46.22MB
In use: 14.01MB
Free: 32.20MB
Program:
Total: 50.86MB
In use: 32.65MB
Free: 18.21MB
After using Oxios Hibernate, the Free program memory has gone to 22.46MB free.
Download Oxios Memory and run Hibernate - that frees up program memory very quickly

Okay so I have installed Oxios Memory.
Until now I have "won" 0.10 Mb Storage Memory and 0.97 Mb Program Memory. I will test this a little bit, seems a good solution before I find the courage to try to reinstall all programs on the memory card (as I said before there are some programs who did'nt asked where to be installed...or I haven't seen it. Everything is possible )
Thanks a lot.

You could use ClearTemp to have the temp folders emptied upon startup: http://www.scottandmichelle.net/scott/cestuff/cleartemp.zip
There are also several tools to change the standard temp folders so they are located on the storage card. Maybe Schaps Configuration tool can do that or maybe WinXplore can't remember, but those tools exist.

TILT 2 Memory/Storage FULL

I downloaded some apps from the Marketplace. I usually get the cabs online and just install all my programs to the storage card and leave the main storage open. But with Marketplace it seems to install them directly onto the device. Is there a way to change that? To make the Marketplace programs install onto the storage card instead? Apparently...all these apps I've installed have caused the memory to get low. It says I have 13MB available and the phone is running slower than usual. Is there a way to safely move these program files over to the storage card or am I just gonna have to remove them and see if I can't find the cabs online?
Or does anybody know a way to open up more storage/memory ...temporary files, files I don't need that came with the Tilt 2. (Note: I already use ClearTemp and CleanRam)

TheScPCrew said:
I downloaded some apps from the Marketplace. I usually get the cabs online and just install all my programs to the storage card and leave the main storage open. But with Marketplace it seems to install them directly onto the device. Is there a way to change that? To make the Marketplace programs install onto the storage card instead? Apparently...all these apps I've installed have caused the memory to get low. It says I have 13MB available and the phone is running slower than usual. Is there a way to safely move these program files over to the storage card or am I just gonna have to remove them and see if I can't find the cabs online?
Or does anybody know a way to open up more storage/memory ...temporary files, files I don't need that came with the Tilt 2. (Note: I already use ClearTemp and CleanRam)
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There is a Thread on this forum on how to remove some of the ATT Bloat. I was able to free up a bunch of memory 10-20MB.
LINK: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UninstallingTilt2Software
Or you could also Flash a new ROM.. With a TON of stuff installed, I have 209MB Free Storage
I had Good Results with one called e2 ROM - Also Adds the Weather to the TF3D Home Screen
TRY: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585403

TheScPCrew said:
I downloaded some apps from the Marketplace. I usually get the cabs online and just install all my programs to the storage card and leave the main storage open. But with Marketplace it seems to install them directly onto the device. Is there a way to change that? To make the Marketplace programs install onto the storage card instead? Apparently...all these apps I've installed have caused the memory to get low. It says I have 13MB available and the phone is running slower than usual. Is there a way to safely move these program files over to the storage card or am I just gonna have to remove them and see if I can't find the cabs online?
Or does anybody know a way to open up more storage/memory ...temporary files, files I don't need that came with the Tilt 2. (Note: I already use ClearTemp and CleanRam)
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You can move the programs to the storage card with SKTools, or re-install them from cabs. I guess Marketplace forces it to Memory.
You might also check your PIE/Opera cache, it can get rather large.

Thanks so much for the advice. Where can I find the PIE/Opera Cache at? What's the path?

TheScPCrew said:
Thanks so much for the advice. Where can I find the PIE/Opera Cache at? What's the path?
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I clear in MemMaid or SKTools myself, but you can do it via the programs themselves.
pie: path: \windows\profiles\guest
Or launch, Menu, Options, Browsing History, Temporary Files highlighted, Clear (soft key)
Opera: path: \windows\opera9\cache
Or again launch Opera, Settings, Privacy, Delete Cache.

You can now specify in Marketplace in options to download to storage card

How to determine where programs are installed?

Ok this might seem like a total noob question, but please bare with me for a quick sec...
I have a stock 6.5/2.1 TP2 and I somehow ran completely out of internal memory! I couldn't even receive texts. I know I have lots and lots of text messages, about 1000 contacts, and a few emails on my phone, but I have NO media whatsoever stored on the phone. In fact, I only have a couple visible files on the phone that are larger than 1MB. I did delete a bunch of visual voicemails and that got me about 10MB back. I ran a level 3 Clean Ram, message purge, soft reset, all that jazz but I still have less than 11MB left. Where is all my storage space going?!
Anyhoo I did install some programs to my internal memory, but can someone tell me if there's a way to tell which programs are installed to your phone memory and which are installed to your external storage??? That was really my question

U can use "Installed programs" option in SK Tools.

You can check the "\storage card\program files\" folder, and see what's in there; that's the location where programs end up, if they are installed to the storage card.

ridolfo said:
You can check the "\storage card\program files\" folder, and see what's in there; that's the location where programs end up, if they are installed to the storage card.
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darkic said:
U can use "Installed programs" option in SK Tools.
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Thanks guys. I appreciate it!

when installing a program, it should ask you where you would want to install a program, on the device or on your memory card. Install on yoour memory card in order to leave your internal memory available.

dont forget to clear out cache in opera or IE because that takes chunks of internal memory out

marduk79 said:
when installing a program, it should ask you where you would want to install a program, on the device or on your memory card. Install on yoour memory card in order to leave your internal memory available.
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Not allways, some programs bz default installs at internal memory, and some programs are recommanded to install at internal memory......

XERO_Racer said:
dont forget to clear out cache in opera or IE because that takes chunks of internal memory out
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Good idea. I didn't even think of that. I do it all the time for my desktop browser but it never occurred to me to do it on my phone. I cleared my Opera cache and got about 30MB back!
That should hold me over for awhile, at least until I flash my next rom I use my internal memory mostly just for PIM and important apps like Opera.

I remember awhile back, a guy wrote a program that automatically deleted bloatware from stock AT&T rom's. I searched and to my knowledge no one has done the same for T-Mobile or other rom's. Does anyone know of such a program or a method of deleting apps that won't show up in uninstall menus?

darkic said:
Not allways, some programs bz default installs at internal memory, and some programs are recommanded to install at internal memory......
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Thank you for the correction.

a2002cmacg said:
Good idea. I didn't even think of that. I do it all the time for my desktop browser but it never occurred to me to do it on my phone. I cleared my Opera cache and got about 30MB back!
That should hold me over for awhile, at least until I flash my next rom I use my internal memory mostly just for PIM and important apps like Opera.
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There are advanced settings in Opera that allow one to set the cache to the storage card. Do a search.