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Hello everyone!
As usual let's start with the description of my current situation:
I have a HTC P3300, with the official HTC WM6 Update.
I have also installed the HTC Touch layout, provided in this forum. ;-)
I have a MicroSD of 2 Gb, only half full.
Now after two years I am starting to notice a loss of speed of my PDA (yeah I know, the P3300 is not the fastest machine so I should not be surprised, and I am not)
Some programs won't start anymore because of "not enough memory". Current Solution: I have to start my P3300 again.
My "Running Programs List" is always empty, so no need to look for a solution there.
The solution is clearly to be found in the Memory status:
Storage 2.50 Mb of 32.45 Mb (and Program 18.25 Mb of 47.90 Mb)
So what I am thinking of:
1. Is there any possibility with the Regeditor to do some kind of fusion of the "Storage and Program Memory", so that I can use the available space on the "Program"side needed on the "Memory"side?
2. Or in case that's impossibe, can something be done about those temp files, without starting the P3300? (best would be that they are deleted immediately after the program that has created them is closed)
3. Or if even this is impossible, can't I use the empty space from my MicroSD Card? Of course the files should also be deleted automatically.
So I hope I have explained clearly enough the problem and my preffered solutions. I am gratefull for every help offered. I was always pleased with this forum, and this time I am awaiting nothing less! Thanks alot in advance.
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I think that’s normal the last time, lots of readers but no solutions, most of them download a rom and after that it’s done, no feedback en no help when someone have a problem. Only when the have a problem there self than the know to scream here at XDA. Sorry I'm not that tech that I can help you.
Your device has very little internal storage free, best solution is to move large files, and install software to your memorycard.
Your program memory seem to be normal.
Some cooked rom's have far more storage memmory than the official wm6.
My device have around 30 diffrent software's installed mostly to memorycard, i have 36mb internal memory left and 18-21 program memory.
I have moved most of the content of my documents to memory card to free upp internal storage.
I dont think you can change the relationship between internal storage and program memory, to do that you have to change to another rom.
You can try oxios hibernate to release program memory, visit oxios homepage to see if it's something for you.
Thanks for the help.
My Documents are all on the memorycard. Well, except the "my documents" that are put per default on the P3300, so let's say my REAL documents are on the card.
Concerning the programs, unfortunately those I have installed hadn't any possibilities to be installed on the card (except for some program's extensions, like for example TomTom's maps).
So after this my choices are pretty limited.
But thanks anyway that someone has tried his best.
Install big programs to the memory card instead of the storage memory.
With meschle's Artemis Touch 4.02 full with no cube, TomTom installed amongst other applications (Phone's been on for two days with Tomtom running and activesync:
Storage:
Total: 46.22MB
In use: 14.01MB
Free: 32.20MB
Program:
Total: 50.86MB
In use: 32.65MB
Free: 18.21MB
After using Oxios Hibernate, the Free program memory has gone to 22.46MB free.
Download Oxios Memory and run Hibernate - that frees up program memory very quickly
Okay so I have installed Oxios Memory.
Until now I have "won" 0.10 Mb Storage Memory and 0.97 Mb Program Memory. I will test this a little bit, seems a good solution before I find the courage to try to reinstall all programs on the memory card (as I said before there are some programs who did'nt asked where to be installed...or I haven't seen it. Everything is possible )
Thanks a lot.
You could use ClearTemp to have the temp folders emptied upon startup: http://www.scottandmichelle.net/scott/cestuff/cleartemp.zip
There are also several tools to change the standard temp folders so they are located on the storage card. Maybe Schaps Configuration tool can do that or maybe WinXplore can't remember, but those tools exist.
I downloaded some apps from the Marketplace. I usually get the cabs online and just install all my programs to the storage card and leave the main storage open. But with Marketplace it seems to install them directly onto the device. Is there a way to change that? To make the Marketplace programs install onto the storage card instead? Apparently...all these apps I've installed have caused the memory to get low. It says I have 13MB available and the phone is running slower than usual. Is there a way to safely move these program files over to the storage card or am I just gonna have to remove them and see if I can't find the cabs online?
Or does anybody know a way to open up more storage/memory ...temporary files, files I don't need that came with the Tilt 2. (Note: I already use ClearTemp and CleanRam)
TheScPCrew said:
I downloaded some apps from the Marketplace. I usually get the cabs online and just install all my programs to the storage card and leave the main storage open. But with Marketplace it seems to install them directly onto the device. Is there a way to change that? To make the Marketplace programs install onto the storage card instead? Apparently...all these apps I've installed have caused the memory to get low. It says I have 13MB available and the phone is running slower than usual. Is there a way to safely move these program files over to the storage card or am I just gonna have to remove them and see if I can't find the cabs online?
Or does anybody know a way to open up more storage/memory ...temporary files, files I don't need that came with the Tilt 2. (Note: I already use ClearTemp and CleanRam)
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There is a Thread on this forum on how to remove some of the ATT Bloat. I was able to free up a bunch of memory 10-20MB.
LINK: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UninstallingTilt2Software
Or you could also Flash a new ROM.. With a TON of stuff installed, I have 209MB Free Storage
I had Good Results with one called e2 ROM - Also Adds the Weather to the TF3D Home Screen
TRY: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585403
TheScPCrew said:
I downloaded some apps from the Marketplace. I usually get the cabs online and just install all my programs to the storage card and leave the main storage open. But with Marketplace it seems to install them directly onto the device. Is there a way to change that? To make the Marketplace programs install onto the storage card instead? Apparently...all these apps I've installed have caused the memory to get low. It says I have 13MB available and the phone is running slower than usual. Is there a way to safely move these program files over to the storage card or am I just gonna have to remove them and see if I can't find the cabs online?
Or does anybody know a way to open up more storage/memory ...temporary files, files I don't need that came with the Tilt 2. (Note: I already use ClearTemp and CleanRam)
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You can move the programs to the storage card with SKTools, or re-install them from cabs. I guess Marketplace forces it to Memory.
You might also check your PIE/Opera cache, it can get rather large.
Thanks so much for the advice. Where can I find the PIE/Opera Cache at? What's the path?
TheScPCrew said:
Thanks so much for the advice. Where can I find the PIE/Opera Cache at? What's the path?
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I clear in MemMaid or SKTools myself, but you can do it via the programs themselves.
pie: path: \windows\profiles\guest
Or launch, Menu, Options, Browsing History, Temporary Files highlighted, Clear (soft key)
Opera: path: \windows\opera9\cache
Or again launch Opera, Settings, Privacy, Delete Cache.
You can now specify in Marketplace in options to download to storage card
Ok this might seem like a total noob question, but please bare with me for a quick sec...
I have a stock 6.5/2.1 TP2 and I somehow ran completely out of internal memory! I couldn't even receive texts. I know I have lots and lots of text messages, about 1000 contacts, and a few emails on my phone, but I have NO media whatsoever stored on the phone. In fact, I only have a couple visible files on the phone that are larger than 1MB. I did delete a bunch of visual voicemails and that got me about 10MB back. I ran a level 3 Clean Ram, message purge, soft reset, all that jazz but I still have less than 11MB left. Where is all my storage space going?!
Anyhoo I did install some programs to my internal memory, but can someone tell me if there's a way to tell which programs are installed to your phone memory and which are installed to your external storage??? That was really my question
U can use "Installed programs" option in SK Tools.
You can check the "\storage card\program files\" folder, and see what's in there; that's the location where programs end up, if they are installed to the storage card.
ridolfo said:
You can check the "\storage card\program files\" folder, and see what's in there; that's the location where programs end up, if they are installed to the storage card.
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darkic said:
U can use "Installed programs" option in SK Tools.
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Thanks guys. I appreciate it!
when installing a program, it should ask you where you would want to install a program, on the device or on your memory card. Install on yoour memory card in order to leave your internal memory available.
dont forget to clear out cache in opera or IE because that takes chunks of internal memory out
marduk79 said:
when installing a program, it should ask you where you would want to install a program, on the device or on your memory card. Install on yoour memory card in order to leave your internal memory available.
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Not allways, some programs bz default installs at internal memory, and some programs are recommanded to install at internal memory......
XERO_Racer said:
dont forget to clear out cache in opera or IE because that takes chunks of internal memory out
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Good idea. I didn't even think of that. I do it all the time for my desktop browser but it never occurred to me to do it on my phone. I cleared my Opera cache and got about 30MB back!
That should hold me over for awhile, at least until I flash my next rom I use my internal memory mostly just for PIM and important apps like Opera.
I remember awhile back, a guy wrote a program that automatically deleted bloatware from stock AT&T rom's. I searched and to my knowledge no one has done the same for T-Mobile or other rom's. Does anyone know of such a program or a method of deleting apps that won't show up in uninstall menus?
darkic said:
Not allways, some programs bz default installs at internal memory, and some programs are recommanded to install at internal memory......
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Thank you for the correction.
a2002cmacg said:
Good idea. I didn't even think of that. I do it all the time for my desktop browser but it never occurred to me to do it on my phone. I cleared my Opera cache and got about 30MB back!
That should hold me over for awhile, at least until I flash my next rom I use my internal memory mostly just for PIM and important apps like Opera.
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There are advanced settings in Opera that allow one to set the cache to the storage card. Do a search.
Hey guys,
Been searching on this for a whle and haven't found the info I'm looking for.
How does the custom APPS2D actually work? By that I mean, what is it really doing? I know it's copying the app(s) to the partitioned ext2/3/4 area of the sdcard, but how does it know *what* part of the app to move as it seems something is always left on the phone.
I'm currently running AdamG's OpenDesire 3.0.5 (nice) and thanks to the script provided by msdl28712 in this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748529, I can see that APPS2SD is saving me "188MB". Pretty nice.
But my internal memory is still going down. I started out at about 148MB I think. I'm currently at about 115MB free. Of course, that's fantastic - but it sort of suggests that, even though I've downloaded loads of apps to the sd card, they will always leave some footprint/config/data on the internal memory of various sizes (as I can see it on my info page).
So really, I am still quite limited in the number of apps I can store. Even though I gave myself a nice big 4gb ext4 partition, I'll still hit a limit because of the footprint data left behind on the phone's int memory even after "copying to SD".
Is this right or am I way off?
Although I have no Actual knowledge of what you ask I will say this. The phone needs to be able to function if there is a SD card installed or not and therefore it must have info about the apps installed in the phone memory. I would imagine its very similar to windows and the windows registry. The registry will always be stored on the windows (Phone) storage and the program resources can be anywhere. Therefore when you install an app there will always be a small amount of phone storage required to link to and handle the operations of that program.
All in my opinion.
Some apps, not all, I've found in multiple places on my Eris.
I found it strange that the market wasn't consistently placing them in both places ( actually, that's a good thing, cause it would eat double the space ), but that led me to believe that the developer who wrote whichever particular app that was being stored in 2 location, wrote it to store to additional "backup" location ...
For example, say you download an item from the Android market, and it puts it in the "data\app" folder location. Well, I'd also find another copy in the root of the "cache\" folder ....
The way I found this, was I wondering where the heck all my memory was going, especially since I'd recently installed/uninstalled some various music player apps, but the space wasn't being freed up. I went digging through various folders looking for items, and low and behold, started finding the duplicately stored APK files. I started removing them, and I've monitored that files contents on a regular basis since, which has helped.
- JB
What A2SD? A2SD+, A2SD Froyo?
Found a nice explanation on CM Wiki... can't find it now though...
but there's always short explanation by MIUI Au..if you wanna give it a tryy
http://www.miui-au.com/faq/a2sd/
johnrbrown1968 said:
Some apps, not all, I've found in multiple places on my Eris.
I found it strange that the market wasn't consistently placing them in both places ( actually, that's a good thing, cause it would eat double the space ), but that led me to believe that the developer who wrote whichever particular app that was being stored in 2 location, wrote it to store to additional "backup" location ...
For example, say you download an item from the Android market, and it puts it in the "data\app" folder location. Well, I'd also find another copy in the root of the "cache\" folder ....
The way I found this, was I wondering where the heck all my memory was going, especially since I'd recently installed/uninstalled some various music player apps, but the space wasn't being freed up. I went digging through various folders looking for items, and low and behold, started finding the duplicately stored APK files. I started removing them, and I've monitored that files contents on a regular basis since, which has helped.
- JB
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First of all you are answering a quite old thread(hint: 8th august)
Second to clarify no, the app is not installed to several locations.. The apk file in the cache is just the one, that the market downloads in order to install it(hint: cache) upon installation the file is placed in the /data/app folder or in case you are using a2sd/a2sd+ it will be placed in /sd-ext/app(the phone still think it is in /data/app, but it wont take up space on the /data partition)
After the installation the downloaded .apk file is sometimes left behind, but as the /cache partition have a fixed size, this won't take up any space for app installs(/data) when the space is needed on the cache partition for another download or something else, the file is eventually deleted.
edit: for people, who want to know the answer to OP, please search I and many others have wrote it over and over again in this very forum.
Hi all.
First thanks to all in these forums. If not all, then most of my questions about WMxx has been answered here. Thanks to all the chefs for cooking ROMS and thanks to all you fiddlers out there making our software much more usable.
I have the HTC HD2 (Leo) and i´m using GoogleMaps a lot. At the same time i have a lot of software installed, taking up quite a lot of space on internal storage - resulting in low memory warnings from time to time.
Moved email attachments to storage card, now there´s only those annoying 20-something MB of cache from GoogleMaps.
This problem has been presented lots of times, but no answer has been given, so i looked in to it and found a solution.
I modified two files in the app.
The two files GoogleMaps.exe and gmm_setup.dll in "program files\GoogleMaps" needs to be modified as follows:
Search and replace (using a hexeditor):
"cache\cache-GLM.dat" with "\Storage Card\c.dat"
and
"cache\index-GLM.dat" with "\Storage Card\i.dat"
PLEASE use the exact names!
Move the two files cache-GLM.dat and index-GLM.dat from "Application Data\GoogleMaps\Cache" to the storage card (root). Rename them to c.dat and i.dat respectively.
Delete the cache folder in application data\GoogleMaps (leave the "application data\GoogleMaps" folder intact).
You are now good to go, enjoy.
For the lazy ones, i will upload the two modified files as a RAR-file. The files are version 4.1.1, latest version of GoogleMaps for WM. Extract and replace the ones in "Program Files\GoogleMaps"
There are now three files:
GM_EXE_DLL_InternalStorageGMFoldert.rar:
Puts the large cache in Internal Storage under subfolder GM (please create this folder yourself) and the index in appdata\GoogleMaps\Cache (Please create the cache folder again).
GM_EXE_DLL_StorageCardGMFolder.rar:
Puts the large cache in Storage Card under subfolder GM (please create this folder yourself) and the index in appdata\GoogleMaps\Cache (Please create the cache folder again).
GM_EXE_DLL_StorageCardRoot.rar:
Simply does what the original did, puts the two files in Storage Card, root.
For best result, start GoogleMaps, go to settings and clear image/map cache and restart, it will rebuilt the cache. Let me know of any errors, i have tested Storage Card with and without GM folder, but NOT Internal Storage.
YES!
That's what I'm talking about
Many thanks
thnx man........
my diamond has "internal storage" instead of: "storage card"
can you make the modified two files to "internal storage" name
thanks in advance
thanks, works great! used the cab installation. is there a way to put the cache files in a folder in the storage card. at present, they are stored separately in the storage card root.
Modified to other settings
Yes you can modify the files to whatever you like (including subfolders), BUT that requires the address-pointers, virtual pointers etc. to be correctly set (as you would increase the file size, thereby offsetting the internal pointers within the files).
This is not my strong point. I have been reading a bit on it, but haven't fully understood it yet. Perhaps some friendly soul here at XDA would be of help?
ok, it's no biggie for me anyways. thanks once again for this mod.
why you just don't install google maps on the storage card and delete the google maps cache in the internal storage (application data/google maps) ? then the cache will also be on the storage card's application data folder. no need to do all this ...
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Hi
Well perhaps that works for you, have read multiple threads on several forums describing that it does not work - do you have a working installation that puts the actual cache-files on the storage card permanently?
Updated the first post regarding subfolder and "Internal Storage".
It works for me and not only in one device but also on my Touch Pro and Touch HD.
I delete the google maps application data folder, and the shortcut in the Start Menu.
May be, it is this : even if you install google maps in the storage card, the other installation (which is in the ROM - internal memry) remains in the device and when you run google maps, you actually run the old program (installed in the internal memory) which creates the cache in the internal memory.
so - may be - if you delete first the shortcut in the start manu (and the application data folder) , and then install google maps in the srorage card, so the shortcut in the start menu refers to the one installed in the storage card, it may solve your problem.
Great job, man!
I'm just thinking about this issue and got your thread
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Best regard!
Uoc Nguyen