Hi guys,
I have a few questions about titanium backup which I've also seen asked but not answered in a few rom threads.
1: If we do a backup user and system apps, what happens when we restore to a new or different rom. For example if the keyboard or another systemapp has been updated in the rom
2: How is titanium backup at handling internal/external programs? If I install a new rom which has google maps for example, whereas I had it installed externally before, what happens?
Thanks guys
Psy-Blade said:
Hi guys,
I have a few questions about titanium backup which I've also seen asked but not answered in a few rom threads.
1: If we do a backup user and system apps, what happens when we restore to a new or different rom. For example if the keyboard or another systemapp has been updated in the rom
2: How is titanium backup at handling internal/external programs? If I install a new rom which has google maps for example, whereas I had it installed externally before, what happens?
Thanks guys
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From what I understand, /system/app is not writable on Desire - so you can't restore any system apps, you can however restore all apps in /data/app
you can restore them....data wise at least!!! my settings and data were restored when i flashed the MCR3.1 but if you flash a completely new rom i advise not to restore the system apps
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Hello everyone,
I'm a newbie to smart phones. I succcessful managed to create a goldcard and root my Desire to the generic HTC room using the 1 step r6 guide at modaco forums. I have managed to re-install my apps.
I'm just wondering whether it is possible to create a backup image so that if I was to go to a different rom which I didn't like I could restore the image to go back to the generic rom but with all my apps installed. Is a custom rom with all my apps on there the same as an image???
I read some stuff about nandroid here but it seems confusing and says that you need to create seperate backup for app settings.
sorry not sure if what I am saying is making sense.
Thanks for any help
I did a bit more reading and I guess it's not possible to backup an image and restore like you can with a hdd. So I can only restore to the provider or stock Roms, I would have to backup my settings and apps using an app like titanium but it won't allow me to update these apps unless I use the paid version?
thunderb0ltuk said:
I did a bit more reading and I guess it's not possible to backup an image and restore like you can with a hdd. So I can only restore to the provider or stock Roms, I would have to backup my settings and apps using an app like titanium but it won't allow me to update these apps unless I use the paid version?
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Yes there is. User ROM Manager. I'm using it to switch back between Froyo and 2.1 Sense. Just create a backup before you flash ROM #2, then backup ROM #2 after configuring it. Then just restore from one of the two backups. Easy as pie!
thunderb0ltuk said:
I did a bit more reading and I guess it's not possible to backup an image and restore like you can with a hdd. So I can only restore to the provider or stock Roms, I would have to backup my settings and apps using an app like titanium but it won't allow me to update these apps unless I use the paid version?
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Yes, use either ROM Manager or a recovery to make a nandroid backup. It will backup everything on your phone (apps, settings, etc - not the SD card though of course). The nandroid backup created (which you can also copy to your Computer, to be on the safe side) will be a 'snapshot' of your phone.
Hi folks... I'm fairly new to flashing ROM's (i know how to flash them and such) but I have a question about backups and restores of roms....I have searched and just dont see the exact wording im looking for.
Ok, So, I have clockwork, and rom manager and have done a backup of my rom.
Here is my question that isnt quite so clear to me.
When I flash a new rom, or say update one that I have where you have to wipe everything.... are these backups here to restore all of your programs and such to where you dont have to go back in and re-download everything when you have a new fresh rom installed.
Id love to try out a bunch of roms.. but I just hate having to go and re-download all of my programs each time I put a new one on... if that is how it has to be then so be it...
I just dont really know exactly what the backups im doing are for, or what they do.
Thanks for your help.
When I flash a new rom, or say update one that I have where you have to wipe everything.... are these backups here to restore all of your programs and such to where you dont have to go back in and re-download everything when you have a new fresh rom installed.
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Somewhat. A nandroid backup is a COMPLETE backup of your entire phone at the point you make the backup. All your apps, calls, texts, etc will be exactly like you made the backup. That's the beauty of nandroid backups, you can make one, try a new rom, and if you dont like it, restore your backup and there is no hassle re-installing apps and changing settings.
However, when you install a new rom, you have to wipe everything. So when flashing a new rom, you will not have anything, you will have to re-install your programs.
There are backup programs that will allow you to backup before a wipe and flash when installing a new ROM. You can then restore the user apps and data. You can also restore SOME system data but you have to be careful and it may be a trial and error process when restoring.
I use Titanium Backup. Some people also use MyBackup Root. I found that when I restored some of my apps with MyBackup they would Force Close when I tried to run them after a restore. That has not been the case with Titanium.
I have Titanium set to restore the apps to the original location. That way my apps restore to internal (DATA) or the the SD Card depending on where they were originally installed.
My process when I flash a new ROM:
- Backup all user apps + Data and System Data with Titanium.
- Nandroid Backup using Amon_RA
- Wipe System, Data, Dalvik and Cache
- Flash the ROM
- Reboot
- Create google account, etc.
- Install Titanium from the market.
- Restore user apps + data using titanium
You can also restore some system data. Depending on the ROM (and how different it was from the original) that can cause problems. If that happens go back to wipe and reflash the ROM again without restoring the system data.
I have had no problems restoring things like my SMS Messages and Call Logs. You can get into problems when you start restoring things like system settings or HTC Sense settings, etc.
Thank you both for the replies. This is exactly what i needed to know. I hope this thread helps others with similar questions.
There is one thing. CWM and ROM Manager have a history of not being reliable with backups.
Your best bet is to get Amon Ra and use that to make Nandroids.
4 I always have on my phone are my Stock/Rooted, my last ROM I was on, fully setup, my Current ROM, basic, before I restore and programs or apps/data, and my current ROM all setup.
If I flash a new ROM, I can just delete my older complete setup.
Is that any ways of flashing new rom without the need of delete all my data n apps?
honglajiao said:
Is that any ways of flashing new rom without the need of delete all my data n apps?
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this is why we have Titanium Backup...
1. use it to backup all user apps + data
2. nandroid backup
3. full wipe, flash new rom
4. install TB if the ROM doesn't come with it, then restore all user apps + data
don't backup and/or restore system data betwen ROMs, as they're often incompatible and will screw things up
No, You need to delete them, but the poster above me has the solution
eddiehk6 said:
this is why we have Titanium Backup...
1. use it to backup all user apps + data
2. nandroid backup
3. full wipe, flash new rom
4. install TB if the ROM doesn't come with it, then restore all user apps + data
don't backup and/or restore system data betwen ROMs, as they're often incompatible and will screw things up
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Back your app data only (you can sync contacts and calendar from Gmail) and restore after you have installed all your apps. TB is not compatible with all ROMa, you can have problems. Use NANDROID backups to investigate which way works best.
Cheers
Coempi said:
Back your app data only (you can sync contacts and calendar from Gmail) and restore after you have installed all your apps. TB is not compatible with all ROMa, you can have problems. Use NANDROID backups to investigate which way works best.
Cheers
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good point, though have not known of TB incompatibilty between roms.
@honglajiao you might as well still backup all user apps and data, because TB can still restore the data separately.
in addition to using google to backup/sync contacts, SMS backup+restore (free in market) is good for texts.
and once again, don't backup/restore system data!
eddiehk6 said:
good point, though have not known of TB incompatibilty between roms.
@honglajiao you might as well still backup all user apps and data, because TB can still restore the data separately.
in addition to using google to backup/sync contacts, SMS backup+restore (free in market) is good for texts.
and once again, don't backup/restore system data!
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+1 for SMS backup and restore. Simple, but excellent.
Cheers
There is a way to try and that is to delete dalvik-cache between flashing roms. But because of the huge difference in design of roms nowadays, it is difficult to implement. Supernova does not require a wipe before flashing because my script migrates even Froyo to Gingerbread without issues..
You can use the ic scirpt to install your apps at boot and tb to restore data.
All,
I was wondering if there was a way to back up your Galaxy S3 applications and settings? I have been pretty happy with my CM10 build, but new ones of course always come out. Every time I flash and update the ROM, I have to manually install my Google play apps because I do not want all the apps i have downloaded back on my phone. Also, I did not know if i could backup like Nova/message settings and apply the backup every time I flash a new ROM? Thanks, let me know!
Pmart317 said:
All,
I was wondering if there was a way to back up your Galaxy S3 applications and settings? I have been pretty happy with my CM10 build, but new ones of course always come out. Every time I flash and update the ROM, I have to manually install my Google play apps because I do not want all the apps i have downloaded back on my phone. Also, I did not know if i could backup like Nova/message settings and apply the backup every time I flash a new ROM? Thanks, let me know!
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ok so when u full wipe your phone and all that good stuff and you also backed up already flash your rom! then go back to the nandriod you just made and choose to restore data... BOOM! all your data/apps/messaging is still there!!
If your tooo lazy to do that use titanium backup search it on the playstore!
Is a nandroid backup through Clockwork or any app that I need to download? It does not make sense if I backup my current ROM and restore its data. Where can I find this? Sorry I am new to this!
Pmart317 said:
Is a nandroid backup through Clockwork or any app that I need to download? It does not make sense if I backup my current ROM and restore its data. Where can I find this? Sorry I am new to this!
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The system (as in operating system) files are stored in the /system directory, this includes apps that are packaged with whatever ROM you are flashing. The /data directory is only user installed apps and their data, either from the market or other sources. I simply use titanium backup on a daily schedule backup my apps and also manually export my sms messages before a wipe. I also keep a copy of the titanium apk on my sd so i can copy it over to the the new ROM after flashing but before rebooting using a recovery based file manager. This way i can full wipe, flash, reboot, restore backups from titanium and be back to where i left off in under 10 minutes. It is also wise to keep a recent full nandroid backup just incase anything goes wrong during the process.
Thanks for respoding! Where do I go to make a nandroid backup? Titanium backup might be my best bet!
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Thanks for respoding! Where do I go to make a nandroid backup? Titanium backup might be my best bet!
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From your recovery.
Is there a way to copy the .apk over to my sdcard or do i have to download a file somewhere on the internet?
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Is there a way to copy the .apk over to my sdcard or do i have to download a file somewhere on the internet?
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I'm not getting your question what are you trying to say?
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Is there a way to copy the .apk over to my sdcard or do i have to download a file somewhere on the internet?
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If you are speaking of an app that is already installed on your phone then you can simply copy the .apk from the /data/app folder, unless it is a system app then it would be in /system/app.
Pmart317 said:
Thanks for respoding! Where do I go to make a nandroid backup? Titanium backup might be my best bet!
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jst do what i said above k so when u full wipe your phone and all that good stuff and you also backed up already flash your rom! then go back to the nandriod you just made and choose to restore data... BOOM! all your data/apps/messaging is still there!!
When it restores DATA it restores data from apps/games/ whatever data you have i always do this and i have all my messages and games still in my new rom
You have to install clock work mod recovery. To boot into cwm, hold volume up + power + home button as you are powering on your phone.
From there, go to backup and restore > backup. This should create a full backup of your data (settings etc.) but not things on your sdcard like music or pictures. To restore after flashing, go to cwm recovery > backup and restore > advanced restore > select your backup you made > /data
On another note, what's the difference between wiping (/data, /system /cache) > flashing rom > advanced restore /data and just flashing the new rom on top of old rom? Does the new rom not delete/overwrite the old ROMs files? Also, can you just wipe /system /cache and flash new rom? Sorry for hijacking thread. Lol..
Hi,
I had upgraded my Galaxy Gio from stock rom to custom rom (CM 7.2 based), and now I want to restore just a few apps + data (for e.g. Memo) and Contacts (from stock rom) from my Nandroid backup, so I want it should be on the current custom rom.
How far I tried to do so, I could'nt get it done. I tried with NANDROID MANAGER, I installed it and tried to restore some apps + their data, (the apps was in previous rom in System/Apps so Nandroid Manager automatically wanted to install it in system/apps), ok, the program showed as it's installed with no broblems, BUT after reboot as it required, NOTHING HAPPENED, so I looked in system/apps and data/data with root explorer, those apps & data were there, but it was not installed.....
I also tried to restore the Contacts from Nandroid (Contacts Storage), and I ended up with erasing all contacts I had currently on the phone (anyway that wasn't a problem, cause i had an regular backup of it).
So I would like to understand what the problem is, and how is it possible to have my previous memos and contacts restored to my current rom?!
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS ISSUE!!!!
Thanks in advance.
snsmos said:
Hi,
I had upgraded my Galaxy Gio from stock rom to custom rom (CM 7.2 based), and now I want to restore just a few apps + data (for e.g. Memo) and Contacts (from stock rom) from my Nandroid backup, so I want it should be on the current custom rom.
How far I tried to do so, I could'nt get it done. I tried with NANDROID MANAGER, I installed it and tried to restore some apps + their data, (the apps was in previous rom in System/Apps so Nandroid Manager automatically wanted to install it in system/apps), ok, the program showed as it's installed with no broblems, BUT after reboot as it required, NOTHING HAPPENED, so I looked in system/apps and data/data with root explorer, those apps & data were there, but it was not installed.....
I also tried to restore the Contacts from Nandroid (Contacts Storage), and I ended up with erasing all contacts I had currently on the phone (anyway that wasn't a problem, cause i had an regular backup of it).
So I would like to understand what the problem is, and how is it possible to have my previous memos and contacts restored to my current rom?!
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS ISSUE!!!!
Thanks in advance.
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i think you can use titanium back up.
hope it helps
sadistic11 said:
i think you can use titanium back up.
hope it helps
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THANKS