[Q] Changing roms w/o deleting ur data n apps - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is that any ways of flashing new rom without the need of delete all my data n apps?

honglajiao said:
Is that any ways of flashing new rom without the need of delete all my data n apps?
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this is why we have Titanium Backup...
1. use it to backup all user apps + data
2. nandroid backup
3. full wipe, flash new rom
4. install TB if the ROM doesn't come with it, then restore all user apps + data
don't backup and/or restore system data betwen ROMs, as they're often incompatible and will screw things up

No, You need to delete them, but the poster above me has the solution

eddiehk6 said:
this is why we have Titanium Backup...
1. use it to backup all user apps + data
2. nandroid backup
3. full wipe, flash new rom
4. install TB if the ROM doesn't come with it, then restore all user apps + data
don't backup and/or restore system data betwen ROMs, as they're often incompatible and will screw things up
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Back your app data only (you can sync contacts and calendar from Gmail) and restore after you have installed all your apps. TB is not compatible with all ROMa, you can have problems. Use NANDROID backups to investigate which way works best.
Cheers

Coempi said:
Back your app data only (you can sync contacts and calendar from Gmail) and restore after you have installed all your apps. TB is not compatible with all ROMa, you can have problems. Use NANDROID backups to investigate which way works best.
Cheers
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good point, though have not known of TB incompatibilty between roms.
@honglajiao you might as well still backup all user apps and data, because TB can still restore the data separately.
in addition to using google to backup/sync contacts, SMS backup+restore (free in market) is good for texts.
and once again, don't backup/restore system data!

eddiehk6 said:
good point, though have not known of TB incompatibilty between roms.
@honglajiao you might as well still backup all user apps and data, because TB can still restore the data separately.
in addition to using google to backup/sync contacts, SMS backup+restore (free in market) is good for texts.
and once again, don't backup/restore system data!
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+1 for SMS backup and restore. Simple, but excellent.
Cheers

There is a way to try and that is to delete dalvik-cache between flashing roms. But because of the huge difference in design of roms nowadays, it is difficult to implement. Supernova does not require a wipe before flashing because my script migrates even Froyo to Gingerbread without issues..

You can use the ic scirpt to install your apps at boot and tb to restore data.

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Titanium Backup

Hey,
I have a question about Titanium Backup. If I understand it properly I have to lose all my apps and data to install or update a new ROM - full wipe - if necessary. Of course I may use Titanium backup but that is quite long process to restore all apps and data again, right? Do I need to tap on restoring every single app to install it etc.? AND may I restore system data as well or it makes no sense when the ROM needs a full wipe?
I really do not understand this properely. I am quite confused.
Thanks.
devcager said:
Hey,
I have a question about Titanium Backup. If I understand it properly I have to lose all my apps and data to install or update a new ROM - full wipe - if necessary. Of course I may use Titanium backup but that is quite long process to restore all apps and data again, right? Do I need to tap on restoring every single app to install it etc.? AND may I restore system data as well or it makes no sense when the ROM needs a full wipe?
I really do not understand this properely. I am quite confused.
Thanks.
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When I do a full wipe for a new ROM, google/market will reinstall all the apps I had and I just restore the missing apps/games that I had settings or saves for. I'd recommend to do a full backup and try yourself to see what works for you.
do not make a system backup cause it'll give you only loads of fc. Backup only installed apps. You don't have to restore app by app if you have a titanium backup pro or donate than it's doing everything for you.
If you are switching roms, you should only restore apps+data.
There is a batch mode that allows you to restore all of it at one go.
I haven't used system yet but i'm guessing you could restore some of you system setting if you do a factory reset?
You can always use something like appbrain to sync you apps again, then use titanium backup just to restore the data.
venomrat said:
If you are switching roms, you should only restore apps+data.
There is a batch mode that allows you to restore all of it at one go.
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I do this after each full wipe and new rom - it's a single click batch operation using the free version of Ti.

[Q] Rom backups and restore...

Hi folks... I'm fairly new to flashing ROM's (i know how to flash them and such) but I have a question about backups and restores of roms....I have searched and just dont see the exact wording im looking for.
Ok, So, I have clockwork, and rom manager and have done a backup of my rom.
Here is my question that isnt quite so clear to me.
When I flash a new rom, or say update one that I have where you have to wipe everything.... are these backups here to restore all of your programs and such to where you dont have to go back in and re-download everything when you have a new fresh rom installed.
Id love to try out a bunch of roms.. but I just hate having to go and re-download all of my programs each time I put a new one on... if that is how it has to be then so be it...
I just dont really know exactly what the backups im doing are for, or what they do.
Thanks for your help.
When I flash a new rom, or say update one that I have where you have to wipe everything.... are these backups here to restore all of your programs and such to where you dont have to go back in and re-download everything when you have a new fresh rom installed.
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Somewhat. A nandroid backup is a COMPLETE backup of your entire phone at the point you make the backup. All your apps, calls, texts, etc will be exactly like you made the backup. That's the beauty of nandroid backups, you can make one, try a new rom, and if you dont like it, restore your backup and there is no hassle re-installing apps and changing settings.
However, when you install a new rom, you have to wipe everything. So when flashing a new rom, you will not have anything, you will have to re-install your programs.
There are backup programs that will allow you to backup before a wipe and flash when installing a new ROM. You can then restore the user apps and data. You can also restore SOME system data but you have to be careful and it may be a trial and error process when restoring.
I use Titanium Backup. Some people also use MyBackup Root. I found that when I restored some of my apps with MyBackup they would Force Close when I tried to run them after a restore. That has not been the case with Titanium.
I have Titanium set to restore the apps to the original location. That way my apps restore to internal (DATA) or the the SD Card depending on where they were originally installed.
My process when I flash a new ROM:
- Backup all user apps + Data and System Data with Titanium.
- Nandroid Backup using Amon_RA
- Wipe System, Data, Dalvik and Cache
- Flash the ROM
- Reboot
- Create google account, etc.
- Install Titanium from the market.
- Restore user apps + data using titanium
You can also restore some system data. Depending on the ROM (and how different it was from the original) that can cause problems. If that happens go back to wipe and reflash the ROM again without restoring the system data.
I have had no problems restoring things like my SMS Messages and Call Logs. You can get into problems when you start restoring things like system settings or HTC Sense settings, etc.
Thank you both for the replies. This is exactly what i needed to know. I hope this thread helps others with similar questions.
There is one thing. CWM and ROM Manager have a history of not being reliable with backups.
Your best bet is to get Amon Ra and use that to make Nandroids.
4 I always have on my phone are my Stock/Rooted, my last ROM I was on, fully setup, my Current ROM, basic, before I restore and programs or apps/data, and my current ROM all setup.
If I flash a new ROM, I can just delete my older complete setup.

Backup When Going to New ROM?

I'm moving to the R4 release of Eugene's CM7 (From Jugg 5.0), and was wondering what the best way to backup my current data would be. Previously, I was forced to revert to Jugg 5.0 when multiple errors came up after trying to restore from TB. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Medikay said:
I'm moving to the R4 release of Eugene's CM7 (From Jugg 5.0), and was wondering what the best way to backup my current data would be. Previously, I was forced to revert to Jugg 5.0 when multiple errors came up after trying to restore from TB. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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To backup your emails and contacts the best way is to use your gmail account. when you flash a new ROM it will ask you to sign in with your account and you will get all your emails and contacts back.
To get all your text messages and call logs back I use an app called SMS Backup +. It backs up all your SMS and MMS messages and call logs to your gmail account. After you flash a new ROM just press restore and they will all be back again.
To back up your user apps with data I use Titanium Backup and select the option to backup all user apps. This will back up all the apps you have downloaded with data included. Do not backup system apps with data because this may cause problems when flashing a new ROM. Once new ROM is flashed go back to Titanium backup and restore all apps with data.
You should be good to go.
Chochiwpg said:
To backup your emails and contacts the best way is to use your gmail account. when you flash a new ROM it will ask you to sign in with your account and you will get all your emails and contacts back.
To get all your text messages and call logs back I use an app called SMS Backup +. It backs up all your SMS and MMS messages and call logs to your gmail account. After you flash a new ROM just press restore and they will all be back again.
To back up your user apps with data I use Titanium Backup and select the option to backup all user apps. This will back up all the apps you have downloaded with data included. Do not backup system apps with data because this may cause problems when flashing a new ROM. Once new ROM is flashed go back to Titanium backup and restore all apps with data.
You should be good to go.
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Nandroid backups do this entirely however youb might experience issues with importing data such as applications. So of you just wanna keep a backup in case if emergency just do a nandroid, burbif you wanna carry over data from just do what Chochi suggested
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iLeopard said:
Nandroid backups do this entirely however youb might experience issues with importing data such as applications. So of you just wanna keep a backup in case if emergency just do a nandroid, burbif you wanna carry over data from just do what Chochi suggested
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As iLeopard said, always make a nandroid first. It will backup everything from the current ROM you are running. Just in case the new ROM doesn't work out for you or things don't run properly, just restore your nandroid and you are back to where you were before flashing the new ROM.
Chochiwpg said:
As iLeopard said, always make a nandroid first. It will backup everything from the current ROM you are running. Just in case the new ROM doesn't work out for you or things don't run properly, just restore your nandroid and you are back to where you were before flashing the new ROM.
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Doesn't making a full user apps + system data Titanium Backup do the same thing?
Medikay said:
Doesn't making a full user apps + system data Titanium Backup do the same thing?
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No, when you backup system data you are backing up everything on your system. All the widgets, wifi settings, gps etc etc. You only want to backup the apps you downloaded. If you backup system data it could conflict with settings in the new ROM when you try and restore.
Chochiwpg said:
No, when you backup system data you are backing up everything on your system. All the widgets, wifi settings, gps etc etc. You only want to backup the apps you downloaded. If you backup system data it could conflict with settings in the new ROM when you try and restore.
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Indeed. Personally I don't even recommend restoring applications. To ensure that you don't get any erros I suggest you download apps fresh from the play store

[Q] Backup without root?

I want to backup all of my apps so I can have a clean ICS installation. But I would prefer not to root the tablet. Is there any way to do a backup and restore of apps and data without root?
If I do root and use something Titanium Backup, can I select which apps I want to restore the data for or does it just restore everything?
AFAIK, you can't back up apps unless you use something like Titanium backup. And yes, you can select which apps you want to backup/restore.
littleemp said:
yes, you can select which apps you want to backup/restore.
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On an individual app, can you choose to restore the app without restoring the data? I don't want to restore the problems that I think a particular app is causing. For other apps, I really want to restore the data and personal settings.
adb withn ICS is capable of backing up data without root. I haven't tried it yet but the newest adb binary is needed. There is also an option in Developer Optionsfor desktop password protection. I'd suggest searching google or here on xda to see how it works.

Does Nandroid also restore your rom version?

I like to play around with different roms but at the same time, I have next launcher as my default and did a lot of customization etc.. to the phone. I do make a nandroid backup but never had to use it. But i'm also tired of spending hours customizing the looks of my phone each time. I use mybackup to backup logs, text ect...
So I understand that nandroid brings the phone back to the last working stage but does that mean to the previous roms modems etc. as well?
If so, are there any backup programs or process I can do to completely backup all my settings of apps and phone but not the rom and modem?
Yes. It's called Titanium Backup. It's in the Google Play store. It will backup all or selected apps as well as each app's settings, etc.
Also when you do a nandroid backup (with TWRP recovery) there are options to include or exclude backing up the modem etc.
Yes a nandroid backups everything. I just have to select the modem to be backed up if u use twrp
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tx_dbs_tx said:
Yes. It's called Titanium Backup. It's in the Google Play store. It will backup all or selected apps as well as each app's settings, etc.
Also when you do a nandroid backup (with TWRP recovery) there are options to include or exclude backing up the modem etc.
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How about the Rom? I want to exclude the roms and just want to backup the phone settings and app settings.
With titanium you can backup your launcher and it's configuration, also all of the user apps plus system apps but it is Not RECOMMENDED, TOTALLY ADVISED AGAINST TO RESTORE SYSTEM APPS WITH It... Backup your sms, call log, wifi access points and only user apps, then flash wipe and flash your new room, boot into it, run the initial setup without restoring from Google, get titanium from play store, restore missing user apps with data (batch restore), then sms, wifi access points and call log if you wish from xml, good luck!
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