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Touch Pro 2 to ATT for SURE

does anyone know if Touch Pro 2 coming to ATT for sure and if so when?

jtoyz2 said:
does anyone know if Touch Pro 2 coming to ATT for sure and if so when?
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My question is...when will an unlocked version that will work on At&t's 3G networks be available.
Would an unlocked T-Mobile version work on At&t's 3G network?

t-mobile runs on a different highspeed 3g band than att so as the international version...att need 850 and 1900 highspeed 3g band...of course the tmobile and international version would work but edge be the max connection you would get

T-Mobile's 3G (AWS) runs on 1700mhz/2100mhz (up/down)
ATT's 3G is 850mhz/1900mhz (up/down)
EDGE is somewhat universal, will work on both networks
There are rumors of a version of TP2 that has all US 3G bands? (850mhz/1700mhz/1900mhz/2100mhz)
- highly unlikely....

im just guessing but, tmobile touchpro 2 coming out in july my prediction is ATT will have theirs anywhere between august to november...thing with ATT they dont announce or preview any their phones until the release...only big promotion i remember they did for a phone is iphone. i dont care if they change the keybord to FUZE style fn i just want the phone on ATT sooner than later. Highspeed internet is very important, cause people using these type of phone mainly use it more than just phone calls and sms....

jtoyz2 said:
im just guessing but, tmobile touchpro 2 coming out in july my prediction is ATT will have theirs anywhere between august to november...thing with ATT they dont announce or preview any their phones until the release...only big promotion i remember they did for a phone is iphone. i dont care if they change the keybord to FUZE style fn i just want the phone on ATT sooner than later. Highspeed internet is very important, cause people using these type of phone mainly use it more than just phone calls and sms....
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qft.............

AT&T Touch Pro 2
jtoyz2 said:
does anyone know if Touch Pro 2 coming to ATT for sure and if so when?
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My only AT&T contact says the scuttlebutt is that the Tilt2 (Touch Pro 2) would not be available until early December 2009 and it would be on Windows Mobile 6.5. He said the phone was initially expected in November but software issues with AT&T blowtware may have pushed it back a few weeks. I have a pre-order for this phone and I currently own the European version and even though it only functions on EDGE it is still the hands down best phone I have ever seen.

douggrif said:
My only AT&T contact says the scuttlebutt is that the Tilt2 (Touch Pro 2) would not be available until early December 2009 and it would be on Windows Mobile 6.5. He said the phone was initially expected in November but software issues with AT&T blowtware may have pushed it back a few weeks. I have a pre-order for this phone and I currently own the European version and even though it only functions on EDGE it is still the hands down best phone I have ever seen.
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how can you preorder the tilt 2?

Ahh, December, don't say that! October 6, or I just might not make it!
I'm so completely done with this Tilt it's not funny!

godefroi said:
Ahh, December, don't say that! October 6, or I just might not make it!
I'm so completely done with this Tilt it's not funny!
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I too am hoping for October. I can't wait for December ^^
I finally sold my Tilt on ebay because I couldn't stand it anymore. In the beginning it was a great phone but over time of course the signal went to crap (at least where I am at). I posted an honest auction and it sold quickly. Now I have a Samsung Eternity as a backup phone until the Tilt 2 comes out. I soooooooooo miss Windows, GPS, Voice Command..etc...so if I have to wait anything more than the first two weeks of October I am going to scold AT&T and hold a grudge.
Who the hell cares about their stupid bloatware...don't add it. I don't need teaser trials of stupid games and apps. If I want them I can install them myself.

I saw a writeup of the Verizon TP2 that said it supported GSM.
From their Website...
EV–DO, 1X RTT capable (Rev. A capable); GSM Quad Band (GSM/GPRS/EDGE); UMTS/WCDMA/HSDPA/HSUPA
Does that mean you can drop in a ATT sim and you are off and running?

douggrif said:
My only AT&T contact says the scuttlebutt is that the Tilt2 (Touch Pro 2) would not be available until early December 2009 and it would be on Windows Mobile 6.5. He said the phone was initially expected in November but software issues with AT&T blowtware may have pushed it back a few weeks. I have a pre-order for this phone and I currently own the European version and even though it only functions on EDGE it is still the hands down best phone I have ever seen.
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I am tired of AT&T, all the other big guys has release it, and them keep the silence...
I am going to verify if the sprint one (wich has a Sim card) can be unlock... any one here knows that???

the new ATT rebate form is gonna be online 09-20 so lets see if the tilt 2 gonna be on that list...if so we are ready to hit that order button. but i agree i would but very piss if its a december release.

I considered a T-Mobile TP2, but I don't want that awful keymap where I'd have to shift constantly for every bit of punctuation. Waiting for the Tilt 2.

PRTEQ said:
I am tired of AT&T, all the other big guys has release it, and them keep the silence...
I am going to verify if the sprint one (wich has a Sim card) can be unlock... any one here knows that???
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both sprint and verizon have a sim slot for international use if you travel...it can be unlock but most u can get it edge for ATT im not sure about tmobile.

im not sure how the flashing and installing custom rom will work on spring and verizon eventhough its clear they run on cdma but it also has sim slot running on gsm so i dunno if HARD SPL will work on it...ill just wait for ATT

3G on ATT?

Changed every setting I can find on my new Touch Pro 2 but no HSPDA...
Think my phone is defective?
Any post appreciated

um... first of all, if you own a TP2, then you own a version that doesn't support US 3g.
Second.... wel no thats pretty much it.. sorry man.. If you want 3g speeds, you have to wait for AT&T to release their version of the TP2 (called the Fortress). As it is now, any TP2 that is unlocked is limited to Edge speeds. Sucks i know, but thats how it is Unless AT&T is in Europe and uses different bands for 3g over there that im not aware of.

Darn it. I know you're right it's just disappointing.
Thanks for laying it all out there for me.
Still a super cool phone tho! I hope it's not worn out before 3G makes it to me...
Was a very good replacement for my Sedna

My available WCDMA bands are:
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
Which is kinda funny because my Sedna will do 3G on the GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850) and this Touch Pro 2 will not.

kwburress said:
My available WCDMA bands are:
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
Which is kinda funny because my Sedna will do 3G on the GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850) and this Touch Pro 2 will not.
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tha tis because its radio doesnt actually have those available. it may list them but they are not available. you cant always trust the interface. this has been the case with the TP1,Diamond 1, TP2 and the HD

TP2 supports 900/2100 UMTS band and missing the 1900 (Reason why I didn't get TD2 or TP2). I have an Xperia X1i which supports the 1900 band and it works with ATT 3G flawlessly

kwburress said:
Darn it. I know you're right it's just disappointing.
Thanks for laying it all out there for me.
Still a super cool phone tho! I hope it's not worn out before 3G makes it to me...
Was a very good replacement for my Sedna
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Umm, correct me if Im wrong but wont the particular touch pro 2 you have never support att's 3g? I think if you want an touch pro 2 that works with their 3g you have to buy the one branded for them dont you?

Link278 said:
Umm, correct me if Im wrong but wont the particular touch pro 2 you have never support att's 3g? I think if you want an touch pro 2 that works with their 3g you have to buy the one branded for them dont you?
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currently yes. Thats not to say someone will not figure out how to get the bands enabled but so far the efforts for the TP1 and the HD have not proven successful (last i heard). If someone firgures out how to enable them (if even possible) i believe this community would put some money in their hands me included

mallman said:
currently yes. Thats not to say someone will not figure out how to get the bands enabled but so far the efforts for the TP1 and the HD have not proven successful (last i heard). If someone firgures out how to enable them (if even possible) i believe this community would put some money in their hands me included
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wait does that mean that the unlocked versions technically are compatible with USA 3g but they just have it disabled?

Link278 said:
wait does that mean that the unlocked versions technically are compatible with USA 3g but they just have it disabled?
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No the bands just arent there. I've been a helper monkey for testing the US 3g capabilities of TP1 and helping with hacking attempts on it and trust me its not happening and I'll bet same on TP2

Verizon Wireless Touch Pro2 to land September 11th, $199.99

Finally
Check this: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...ss-touch-pro2-to-land-september-11th-for-199/

Finally..verizon tp2 is not crippled

Engadget has a leaked internal memo confirming this as well.
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/09/04/htc-touch-pro2-graces-verizon-on-september-11/
This brings me back to the question, does anyone know if it will at all be possible to unlock this for use on US AT&T 3G?

So it will be $489.99 without contract right??

CraZyLiLbOy said:
So it will be $489.99 without contract right??
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According to that leaked memo, yeah.
Anyone know if its possible to unlock for US AT&T 3G? I'd pay $500 in a heartbeat for no contract, an actual number row, green (I'm a green whore), for once not crippled by Verizon version...

nothing personally to any of you, but I've had Verizon, and i'd rather have a a GSM network that I can swap Sim's on, and switch phones when I like.
The Cdma network, has great coverage and clarity, but I'd rather have the freedom of what phone do I want today

Dalamak said:
nothing personally to any of you, but I've had Verizon, and i'd rather have a a GSM network that I can swap Sim's on, and switch phones when I like.
The Cdma network, has great coverage and clarity, but I'd rather have the freedom of what phone do I want today
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Is there a phone better than the tp2? No then there is no need to swap!

I'm surprised more people haven't responded to this. As a long time Verizon customer, this announcement MADE MY DAY!

I called the Verizon 800-number and was told that it is indeed releasing on the 11th... can't wait! I'm going to use my NE2 $50 off and hopefully get some kind of retention discount since I'm out of contract... $149 after rebate minus whatever I can finangle , will be a nice upgrade from my XV6800/HTC Titan.
Does anyone think they will allow for preorders or will it be a grab for it on the day it launches?

Yep - the VZN TP2 is very much on my radar. I have been very happy with my current Moto A4500 (Q9 Napoleon) running WM 6.1 Standard, but looking forward to a touch screen interface. Actually, one of the nice things about VZN is that I can toggle between devices via the dial up "device programming app:" *228 option 3.
John

CraZyLiLbOy said:
Is there a phone better than the tp2? No then there is no need to swap!
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Traveling internationally with a cdma phone can sometimes be tough.

sdlopez83 said:
Traveling internationally with a cdma phone can sometimes be tough.
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CDMA Touch Pro 2 also has SIM slot and should work on GSM networks so you can swap whatever SIM card you want in the CDMA TP2.

CraZyLiLbOy said:
CDMA Touch Pro 2 also has SIM slot and should work on GSM networks so you can swap whatever SIM card you want in the CDMA TP2.
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Get outta here thats awsome.

CraZyLiLbOy said:
CDMA Touch Pro 2 also has SIM slot and should work on GSM networks so you can swap whatever SIM card you want in the CDMA TP2.
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I don't think it'll work on domestic GSM networks though, just overseas. I have an Ozone with Verizon and it came with a Verizon/Vodaphone SIM installed, but when I try to access AT&T's network here it can't.
Edit-According to Phonescoop, it's not approved by the FCC to access domestic GSM, even though it can do 1900 and 850. I imagine the same will be true of the TP2.

I was told that the phone would be available for online ordering only on Sept 11th. I was so disappointed as I was planning to open up at the store to get the 1st one!
Has anyone else heard this?

CraZyLiLbOy said:
Is there a phone better than the tp2? No then there is no need to swap!
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I don't know about CDMA phones but, there are plenty of GSM phones better ACER m900, acer DX900, etc...
and Its not even a matter of being better, sometimes, when I go to work and I know its gonna be a hands on day, I don't want the phone banging around, I'll switch to a older motorla

Desire to ATT?

BGR seems to think so. I'm SO getting one if it's true.

YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. I never liked the htc sense but is gaining on me so much. Just waiting for the first one on AT&T's 3g. The nexus one I will put htc sense on for sure and the Desire I will root it so I can CHANGE from sense to stock android. Anybody's strategy for the first htc android phone on AT&T?

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YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. I never liked the htc sense but is gaining on me so much. Just waiting for the first one on AT&T's 3g. The nexus one I will put htc sense on for sure and the Desire I will root it so I can CHANGE from sense to stock android. Anybody's strategy for the first htc android phone on AT&T?
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i want the desire. i like the sense UI and would rather have it on the device instead of using ROMs.
part of me wants the nexus, so updates are always out.. but there's always xda XD.

oh no! what if I buy an att desire for t-mobile, will I get 3g?

Oh please Heavenly Lord don't give such a beast to such a undeserving network! Let them stick with the iphone.
And to the above you will get 2G only!!!

Down with AT&T!!!!
This phone should come to T-Mobile since they need an exclusive phone (the nexus one doesn't count because of that lame arse plan you have to get) that is really good.
Stick with your iPhone AT&T. You need the fanboys going over to you and let the "real" carriers get the Android phones.

I thought Tmobile was getting this phone??

I don't see why everone is dogging AT&T? ya i'm not in love with the carrier or iphone. In fact i'm one the biggest iphone haters alive, but AT&T is the only service where I get 3g and it is FAST. T-MOBILE gets edge at best on the nations 3rd largest carrier. I know AT&T doesn't get good service in some big cities but the best option for me and my area within a 250 mile rdaius. You should be excited att id getting an droid phone, but of course att will some how screw with android with some yahoo android apps or something.

Desire!
This is most likely my next device. I am so glad to see that AT&T saw fit to get a real HTC with great specs. I have been anxiously awaiting which HTC device was coming my way. There is no way I was going to settle for the Backflip! They may also be getting the Sony Ericcson X10 which is also a nice device, but in my opinion nothing compared to the Desire. The confirmed Dell mini 3 is not even a consideration, but the mini 5 would definately have my attention. Cant wait to hear a release date, I know what I'm getting myself for my Bday in May if the release date works out.

UberMario said:
Down with AT&T!!!!
This phone should come to T-Mobile since they need an exclusive phone (the nexus one doesn't count because of that lame arse plan you have to get) that is really good.
Stick with your iPhone AT&T. You need the fanboys going over to you and let the "real" carriers get the Android phones.
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Your carrier fanboyism aside, I don't want an iphone. I can't switch to T-mobile. Know why? Because there's no T-mobile 3G where I live.
Millions of americans are in the same predicament, and choices are usually limited 1 or 2 carriers. For east Orlando, that means VZW or AT&T. Hence, despite T-mobile's awesome prices and great phones (I wanted an N1, HD2 and an N900, guess whose network they only work with?), there's an important reason why they're still #4- they keep avoiding us. So piss off...
That said, I want an N1 or Desire... hurry up AT&T!!!

corneliusm said:
Your carrier fanboyism aside, I don't want an iphone. I can't switch to T-mobile. Know why? Because there's no T-mobile 3G where I live.
Millions of americans are in the same predicament, and choices are usually limited 1 or 2 carriers. For east Orlando, that means VZW or AT&T. Hence, despite T-mobile's awesome prices and great phones (I wanted an N1, HD2 and an N900, guess whose network they only work with?), there's an important reason why they're still #4- they keep avoiding us. So piss off...
That said, I want an N1 or Desire... hurry up AT&T!!!
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SO True.............The First Highend 3G HTC Phone ATT Carriers..IM all Over......N1, Desire ...Lets go........Time to move on from the G1....
Wish HTC would make a vairent with a keyboard tho.

I'm looking at either the Desire or the upcoming X10... Anyone know anything about a release date? I'm suffering from new phone fever over here and have been due for an upgrade for a while...

DKM119 said:
I thought Tmobile was getting this phone??
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I don't think it'd make a whole lot of sense for TMo to get both the Nexus One (which they're rumored to get - subsidized on-contract, not the unlocked version) and the Desire; they're basically the same hardware...

I want this on tmobile so bad. i love tmobile

Will the desire with its current specification run on at&t 3G network? I noticed the 850 band is only labeled GSM, while the 900/2100 is labeled HSDPA.
In this column, he mentions it will only run on 2G in the states.
slashgear.com/htc-desire-vs-google-nexus-one-2074966/

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Will the desire with its current specification run on at&t 3G network? I noticed the 850 band is only labeled GSM, while the 900/2100 is labeled HSDPA.
In this column, he mentions it will only run on 2G in the states.
slashgear.com/htc-desire-vs-google-nexus-one-2074966/
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No. Need to wait for a US version otherwise the best you'll get is edge.

Lol, I have AT&T and I'll stay with them only if I can't get this phone with Verizon.
Problem is, AT&T drops lots of my calls, somewhere in the neighborhood of 5% around town and as high as 20% where I live. They seem fine other wise. When i'm traveling to other areas, life is good with them. Their devices work internationally and I can talk and surf at the same time. When I'm near my home which isn't a rural area at all, drop drop drop.

venelar said:
No. Need to wait for a US version otherwise the best you'll get is edge.
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Or find some way to get an unlocked one from Telstra Austrailia, they'll be rolling out the Desire next month. They run an 850Mhz 3G network and as with their 850Mhz Touch HD, their 850Mhz Desire should work on AT&T as well.

Android Sprint Touch Pro on Cricket?

Is it possible to run a Sprint Touch Pro on Android, also having both the Windows Mobile and Android flashed to cricket? Considering getting one of these for my gf whose only option is Cricket... At the same time having epicness of a Touch Pro on Android.
I have a Touch Pro 2 on T Mobile running the Android, does this also use Haret?
Sorry for being a noob, just wanna make sure I can do this before I run out and buy a Sprint Touch Pro. It looks so much better than Verizon's.

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Is it possible to run a Sprint Touch Pro on Android, also having both the Windows Mobile and Android flashed to cricket? Considering getting one of these for my gf whose only option is Cricket... At the same time having epicness of a Touch Pro on Android.
I have a Touch Pro 2 on T Mobile running the Android, does this also use Haret?
Sorry for being a noob, just wanna make sure I can do this before I run out and buy a Sprint Touch Pro. It looks so much better than Verizon's.
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I wouldn't go for the Sprint TP or the Verizon TP as both are actually a separate CDMA model known as the Herman (as opposed to the Raphael). Apparently the Herman is noticeably worse than the Touch Pro; it overheats, is unresponsive at times and has poor call reception. On top of that you don't get a front-facing camera It is possible to run XDANDROID on the Herman, though.
As they are both CDMA, you'll have to get the other carrier (Cricket) to register the phone's serial number on its network before it will work. If your girlfriend has a Cricket SIM card it would be much easier to just use an unlocked Touch Pro GSM.
I suggest you go for an actual HTC Touch Pro instead, or at least a Fuze.
Yes, the Touch Pro2 uses Haret.

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I wouldn't go for the Sprint TP or the Verizon TP as both are actually a separate CDMA model known as the Herman (as opposed to the Raphael). Apparently the Herman is noticeably worse than the Touch Pro; it overheats, is unresponsive at times and has poor call reception. On top of that you don't get a front-facing camera It is possible to run XDANDROID on the Herman, though.
As they are both CDMA, you'll have to get the other carrier (Cricket) to register the phone's serial number on its network before it will work. If your girlfriend has a Cricket SIM card it would be much easier to just use an unlocked Touch Pro GSM.
I suggest you go for an actual HTC Touch Pro instead, or at least a Fuze.
Yes, the Touch Pro2 uses Haret.
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Wow....ok not to make fun and I know you are TRYING to help but, you have just given the worst advice ever. First off CRICKET is NOT a GSM carrier so NO SIM CARD!! The Sprint touch pro does NOT have any of the problems you just stated. It's a Raph800 but yes it IS known as the Herman. I have one. AND it's on Cricket...AND I'M RUNNING ANDROID. As well as WinMo 6.5.x AND sense 2.5. Disregard everything this guy just said.

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Wow....ok not to make fun and I know you are TRYING to help but, you have just given the worst advice ever. First off CRICKET is NOT a GSM carrier so NO SIM CARD!! The Sprint touch pro does NOT have any of the problems you just stated. It's a Raph800 but yes it IS known as the Herman. I have one. AND it's on Cricket...AND I'M RUNNING ANDROID. As well as WinMo 6.5.x AND sense 2.5. Disregard everything this guy just said.
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He meant the RAPH500 which is ****.

abadasstanker69 said:
Wow....ok not to make fun and I know you are TRYING to help but, you have just given the worst advice ever. First off CRICKET is NOT a GSM carrier so NO SIM CARD!! The Sprint touch pro does NOT have any of the problems you just stated. It's a Raph800 but yes it IS known as the Herman. I have one. AND it's on Cricket...AND I'M RUNNING ANDROID. As well as WinMo 6.5.x AND sense 2.5. Disregard everything this guy just said.
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Oops I knew I shouldn't have listened to them voices in my head-brain...
To be honest I hadn't ever heard of Cricket as I don't live in the US. I meant the 500 (Verizon model). Regardless, I would try to avoid the CDMA if it's at all possible - support on this site for it is much thinner than the GSM.

Problem is, just like Sprint & Verizon, Cricket is CDMA only... So his only option is a CDMA phone, no SIM card available in CDMA models.

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Problem is, just like Sprint & Verizon, Cricket is CDMA only... So his only option is a CDMA phone, no SIM card available in CDMA models.
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I know, but if he really has his heart set on a Touch Pro then it might be worth getting a GSM contract instead.
OP, what is it specifically about the Touch Pro that you like so much? You can get qwerty Android phones and there's always the Touch Pro2... Is it to do with budget or functionality?

Cricket has no contracts, hence the reason it is a good option for those looking for a 'cheap' (relatively) cell carrier.
I don't know of any GSM carriers in the states that offer what Cricket does, short of the pay-per-minute ones.
I'd go with a TP2 or an Android-specific device as well. So why is your heart set on the TP?

It is possible to have the Sprint Touch Pro on Cricket; it is what I am currently running here in the Central California market. While Android may not be "flashed" onto the device, it can be run from the microSD card via HaRET. As of 6/14/2010 1400, I am able to make and receive calls and SMS, but the data connection isn't working and I haven't even tried MMS. It is all still a work in progress, and the guys behind this are making it happen fast. Everything I did to make Android work on my Touch Pro can be found here:
forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=104276
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(just found out the hard way that I cannot post links; copy & paste the above line into your browser)
As a Cricket user I have to say, this has been one of the most beautiful devices to ever touch Cricket's network, Android OR Windows Mobile 6.x (I'm running 6.1; a tad bit snappier than 6.5).

Not really a Cricket device you have there... don't mean to rain on your parade
BUT to get the net working have you tried setting up the proxy needed for Cricket service? I'm honestly not sure how to do that in Android, but I'm sure it's possible.

have you tried setting up the proxy needed for Cricket service?
Went into the APN settings and entered wap.mycricket.com on port 8080 as the proxy with my username as [email protected] and ******* as the password - no luck. Found a page somewhere on ppcgeeks which stated you had to enter the username information into /etc/ppp/pap-secrets as well as /etc/ppp/options.smd1 (or something along those lines), but that didn't prove to be helpful - not only was it meant for U.S. Cellular (I adjusted what needed adjusting), the necessary information was already contained in said files. Toggled Airplane Mode on & off, no dice. Rebooted & ran HaRET again, nada. The only successful data connection I had was with WiFi. Using that, I was able to log on to the app market and download a file explorer (and an SNES emulator =), so at the very least I can browse files graphically (and the page I found on PPC geeks specified this app in particular).
But yeah, with these dudes making strides daily, it may soon become a non-issue.
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No worries; there's no raining on this parade. I got a Touch Pro for cheap, real cheap, as an upgrade from a Mogul (Titan). Became so accustomed to its sluggishness that the raw speed of the Touch Pro caught my attention immediately. It's nice that Sprint and Cricket use the same technology. 8^D