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just a quick question for a stupid noob, ive flashed my diamond to Gen.Y TouchFlo3Dv2.1 VGA and im loving it, its taken a while but ive got it just how i want now, if i change the radio will i have to set up all my apps again
no.....
when i run the program its a ruu and i thought that would wipe all my apps and i would have to re install my apps, but your saying no, all my programs will stay and all the reg tweaks ive made will stay untouched .
It will wipe programs from your "phone" memory,not from the "internal" memory I think. But I think that the old ones will not be visible. Settings after flashing new rom will be removed. That's my oppinion
Radio...
Flashing a radio won't touch any of your programs or settings... it's in a different part of the ROM
Flashing a Radio..
bazz7777777 said:
when i run the program its a ruu and i thought that would wipe all my apps and i would have to re install my apps, but your saying no, all my programs will stay and all the reg tweaks ive made will stay untouched .
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Hi Bazz..
What Benko said, short but sweet , is absolutely right.. Just use the CustomRUU.exe (flashing utility) and the radio file you want and flash as is (I have HardSPL on my phone allowing me to flash anything).. I applied the same Gen2.1 ROM (my compliments to Yozgatg for a great ROM ) not more than a week ago, tried the Radio 1.13.25.24 and then decided to go back to 1.15.25.14 (search on forums and you'll find it). I've been using that Radio for a good number or months and it's pretty reliable and good on battery (for HTC Diamond) so you might want to have a look and see what others have said about it
BTW - I flashed it as is and didn't have to re-enter any settings at all and my phone booted as normal after. If you sync your phone with your desktop PC make sure you get a sync BEFORE you upgrade just in case as it's better to be safe but like grahamkdt said I doubt you'll need it.
Yeah SRY, I ment the full rom flashing
Which manilla theme do i use for touch HD i have tried a number from the thread but it did not work i downloaded it put it in storage card turned off touch flo on phone opened up cab file ran it then soft reset but it ws not in settings -toay - items. What am i doin wrong.
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Which manilla theme do i use for touch HD i have tried a number from the thread but it did not work i downloaded it put it in storage card turned off touch flo on phone opened up cab file ran it then soft reset but it ws not in settings -toay - items. What am i doin wrong.
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WOW man, you gotta give more information than that or nobody will know what your talking about
1. You need to know what version of manila you are running, 2.1, 2.5 etc.
2. Then you need to tell us what you are downloading?
3. With any theme that you apply to TF3D, regardless of the version, you will need to "Install to Device" and not to storage card.
Please give more info and we can help!
Currently i dont have manilla on the phone thats what i am trying to put on, when i went on the thread there are so many to choose from. I put the file on my storage card then opened up through the phone but i did install to device not storage card. Is there somthing i need to do first. sorry if not too clear i bit new at all of this.
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Currently i dont have manilla on the phone thats what i am trying to put on, when i went on the thread there are so many to choose from. I put the file on my storage card then opened up through the phone but i did install to device not storage card. Is there somthing i need to do first. sorry if not too clear i bit new at all of this.
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You do have manila on your phone. Touchflo (or TF3D) is manila, and so is Sense UI which you may have seen in these forums. They're HTC's proprietary UI. Touchflo is what came installed on your phone. It is being fazed out by HTC and replaced with Sense UI, though they are both made up of manila files and look very similar.
You need to tell us what you are trying to install (cab name?) and your manila version (look in Settings tab, About Phone, Software Information, Manila Version). I suspect you are running the stock rom, which would be Touchflo 1.3.
Most of the users here are using custom roms which include the latest versions of Sense UI - themes and modifications for Sense UI will not work with the older Touchflo. In other words if you want your phone to have all the functionality and look as cool as the pics you might have seen here you'll need to flash a custom rom There's a couple of excellent guides in the rom forum if you choose to go that route...
It says Touch flo for pocket pc version 3.0 is this what you mean
Found it you are right it is a 1.3 says touchFLO 3D 1.3 so are you now saying i am better to change this
Could you piont me in the right direction to flash my rom to sense UI just a point will i loose my data on the phone when i do this. Thanks
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Could you piont me in the right direction to flash my rom to sense UI just a point will i loose my data on the phone when i do this. Thanks
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your best bet is to have a look in the rom sub forum
I particlarly suggest you read
this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
Gary
Thanks read it is this the one i need or where you just showing me what is involved.
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Thanks read it is this the one i need or where you just showing me what is involved.
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That's the guide on how to flash. Take a look at the rom forum and look in each thread to see which one you like the look of. Bare in mind there are 2 different versions of Sense as well - 2.1 and 2.5. The difference is that 2.5 has quicklinks (program shortcuts on the home tab) and is more processor intensive than 2.1 (slower, potentially, though it's never bothered me). I'm using miniterror's Ravage rom myself, though I'm fond of Balaji's roms too. Ultimately it's very much a case of personal taste though. Yes you will lose all your data though you can back up texts and contacts etc with various apps like PIM backup and My Phone. Flashing custom roms can be very addictive, so be prepared to flash a rom today, decide it doesn't have everything you want, or has more than you need, and flash a new rom tomorrow. Make sure you read that guide and you can keep flashing til you land on a rom you really like
The last update I did to my phone was to flash one of Alex's ROMs to my phone and I've been using it ever since but now that I see that DROID is of age I'm thinking of putting it on my phone.
So, I'm hoping some peeps would be kind enough to help out with a few Q's...
I've read most of the "Myn's Warm Donut" thread and I think that is the route I'm going to go.
- Will DROID run native on the phone or from my SD or both?
- I'm using PIM manager and SIM backup, can these be used in DROID how else would I get my contacts, txt messages, etc. back on the phone?
- From what I've read, bluetooth, battery, WIFI, GPS are definitely working is this a true statement?
- What radio and SPL is everyone using with success?
Thanks for any help.
TW,
As you are well or should be by now doing searches on all of these questions will answer everything even the contacts which I did close to 2 yrs ago. So I can't remember that now
Yes it will run on either configuration you want I recommend using haret to give it a try which myn and others give good direction for and after that if you like it install to your phones internal memory dont let the sdcard's lack of speed get you down judge it by the UI and functionality before you decide to can it.
Speed is good once installed to NAND
Bluetooth has issues with audio routing
1.71.09.01 radio version
3.34 is the spl I am using
Thanks for the post garringm - I knew the "search for it" was coming no worries..
1.71.09.01 radio version
3.34 is the spl I am using
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That helps.
Thanks,
Can back up everything garringm said, Myns is possibly the most stable and fastest on kaiser, although I still prefer poly's 2.1d myself.
radio and spl are the same here too, and I'd also advise running from SD using haret, both for the experience of installing, running and setting up android without the final commitment of wiping nand.
Battery life is still shorter under android, but much improved, I find I can run it all day without having to worry too much. GPS still has a few issues on myns I think, but I use it on polymod frequently with no major issues.
As far as contacts and txt message backup is concerned, well I just backed up my contacts to SIM and used that initially, once registered on google, contacts are automatically backed up anyway, not sure about saving txts tho, but I'm sure there is a way.
To put it all in perspective, I also own a blackstone and diamond, and overall I prefer Android on Kaiser to either of those, and in fact use my kaiser as my main phone now, Android really is that good, at least for me
Thanks for the post zenity, I see you popping up in a lot of the threads.
How are you on the SD install? I'm trying to do an install on Myn's donut - downloaded the package from the link in the thread unzipped it to the root of my SD /andboot ran the install and it just hangs at "found device".
Any ideas? I assumed all the necessary files are included with Myn's rar file?
TW,
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Thanks for the post zenity, I see you popping up in a lot of the threads.
How are you on the SD install? I'm trying to do an install on Myn's donut - downloaded the package from the link in the thread unzipped it to the root of my SD /andboot ran the install and it just hangs at "found device".
Any ideas? I assumed all the necessary files are included with Myn's rar file?
TW,
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Take the package from my topic: super-eclair for kaiser (you can add another kernel, isn't really needed). Can't make it any easier for you.
Huge issue not in the install...
... rename default-kaiser.txt do default.txt (replacing existing one)?
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This is a great thread for beginners...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5602064&postcount=1195
Quick question as to what the differences are between LCD's 110, 120, etc?
TW,
Some answers to the whole LCD density and resolution are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676959
But basically, choose a screen resolution you prefer and adjust the density to suit.
My preference for Myn's is 320x428 @ 144.
Glad to see you resolved the default.txt issue
The best way to transfer contacts IMO if you already have a gmail account, you can configure your activesync to sync with gmail, transferring all your winmo contacts to gmail. Then when you start using android, they get downloaded automatically. I dont remember the exact way but there are many guides out there just search for syncing activesync with gmail. But its true the one thing I miss from the winmo days is PIMbackup.
Regarding LCD panels and density, you can go through the roguetools thread or the many other threads discussing density, dpi, ppi etc.
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Some answers to the whole LCD density and resolution are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676959
But basically, choose a screen resolution you prefer and adjust the density to suit.
My preference for Myn's is 320x428 @ 144.
Glad to see you resolved the default.txt issue
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Myn's thread contains RLS5 buthas RLS4 links to some fixes (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651861) does that mean the RLS4 fixes still work on RLS5?
About the Wifi patches, do I need to manually edit the androidinstall,tar and copy in the info from the androidupdate_-_Wifi_-_BT_-_battery_1350_-_LCD110.tar?
Thanks,
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Myn's thread contains RLS5 buthas RLS4 links to some fixes (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651861) does that mean the RLS4 fixes still work on RLS5?
About the Wifi patches, do I need to manually edit the androidinstall,tar and copy in the info from the androidupdate_-_Wifi_-_BT_-_battery_1350_-_LCD110.tar?
Thanks,
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put the androidupdate.tar in /sdcard/andboot in the installer menu select install update its also good practice to select fix permissions once the update is installed
I'd like to ask those wishing help with troubleshooting to please help us to help you.
When reporting a problem it is useful to get as much information as possible, the more information we have, the easier it is to help.
Is it running from SD or Nand.
What radio version.
What build are you having the problem with.
What kernel/nbh are you using.
If you can, try to post any error messages.
Please try to post your questions in the thread for the build you are having issues with, it's more likely to get noticed there, and other users of that build may have the solution you need.
All this information saves a lot of time, and helps cut down on confusion, especially the SD/Nand part.
I have trouble with signal, it's weak than WM, when I used WM my radio is 1.65, I'm up to 1.71.09.01 and flash Android (NAND menthod) and the signal so weak
So Android support radio 1.65??? I want to back 1.65
I'm using TYTN 2 Kaiser _ WarmDonut version
Another Qs:
Q.How can I use my fone like a modem? I see in Menu have Modem but I don't know how to connect with my PC as a modem
Q.How can I connect to my PC via Wifi ad-hoc? (if available, please guide step by step- because I'm... chicken )
Q.GPS so slow and weak (in Vietnam)
Q.It so hard to power off (It's hang)
Best regard
I had issues with 1.71.xx radios too, and went back to 1.65.21.14 and my signal was good once more.
To change radio, download the radio you wish to use from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182, post 3 has the download links you need.
Once you have it downloaded, rename the ruu_signed.nbh to kaisimg.nbh and copy to SD card, flash using the power+camera method you used to flash the nand nbh, you will not have to reinstall Android when you do this.
The modem in question refers to the gprs modem used for data, it should be possible to use the phone as a modem, but as far as I know this is not working properly yet.
Not sure if you can do this either, I know wifi works for data transmission, but accessing the computer this way with android may not be possible, yet.
Gps problems may depend on which nbh you have installed, some of the more recent nbh's perform better than older ones. I'd recommend Kallt_Kaffes NBH's as I know these are quite good for gps, for me at least. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=660158, you will need to load the nbh into the editor and set the correct panel type, keyboard, and 3d type, ( donut in your case), then save as kaisimg.nbh and copy to SD and flash using power+camera, again this will not affect your android install.
Power off issues may be nbh related also, however this can still happen anyway, usually pulling out the battery will sort out the reboot issues.
many thank for quick reply, I love Android on my phone
thank you again
I was wondering what steps to take when the android loader gets stuck in a loop, when I install andriod right after install it boots fine but when I try to boot second time, after andriod appears on the bottom of the screen it will go into some kind of loop. I have tried different radios and a different version of hardspl, and a few nbh panels as well as reinstalling the system, any help would greatly appreciated.
Phone: AT&T Branded TILT
OS: Nand w/Incubus Super Froyo Installed
Radio: 1.70.18.02
NBH: kaisimg-panel2-320-tilt-froyo-07-07-10
HardSPL: v3.34.hard
Everything looks fine, although I haven't used that particular build, however bootloops are commonly build or kernel related.
Have you tried other builds? Or is it just this build that does this?
Generally panel type only affects the display on the screen itself, or sometimes problems with sleep mode.
Since you have a froyo kernel installed, maybe you could install this build to see if it helps? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724821
Yeah I have tried other Froyo builds and they worked, but I just like the way Super Froyo build is put together. But if it is the build then its is the build. Oh well maybe next release. Ok thank you for your time, guess I will give the GZO build or the one you suggested a try.
Installed the kernel you suggested, it works. It boot looped once, then I cleared the dalvik cache and it booted again after install. I don't know if that is what it is used for, but it worked after that.
It is a awesome build, battery life works correctly, signal is good with radio, and wi-fi works good. But I had one more questions.
1. What is up with live wallpapers, on some builds I have used some work on one build but not the other, I have looked through the forums, but can find no solution for this. Is it because of the amount of RAM in the TILT as I saw somewhere or is there a fix. Even in this build when I try to load a live wallpaper on a couple of them is just stays on wallpaper loading and stay black screen.
I would like to take a minute to thank the people that make this awesome stuff, now my TILT has more current software than my BACKFLIP, so my older phone is now newer than my new phone, and I would also like to thank the people who help others out on this forum, I don't think a lot of people like myself would get anywhere without your help.
Forgot to mention dalvik cache. oops, ah well, you found it anyway
It's another of those occasionally useful things, like fix permissions, I have used it before to fix unusual behaviour, but not tried it on a bootloop.
Live wallpapers are usually pretty buggy at best, it's complicated, memory is one problem, cpu speed another, and 3d handling yet another, some wallpapers work ok, but slow, others just won't, ever. I just delete them before install, along with a few other minor customisations such as deleting a few ringtones and notification sounds, changing boot animations, nothing that affects the core of the build, just personalising a bit
I'm using:
1)incubus's Super Eclair 6.1, with the downgraded settings.apk which enables wifi (another member offered the settings.apk from a previous version (3, I think) as an androidupdate.tar)
2) Currently radio 1.71.09.01 (thinking of switching to 1.65.21.18 to improve reception)
3.) Currently using the latest Dzo kernel for eclair (07-02-2010, I think)
My problem is that my data connection doesn't work (and this has been an issue on just about every release, save for one Froyo install where the data autostarted once, and then I never saw a 2g/3g notification and mobile internet didn't work).
I'm currently in India, and I've used the correct APN settings (they have worked on other phones including Nokias, iPhone, and a USB modem). I've tried asking the question in the SuperEclair vogue thread, but alas, no love. I'd really appreciate if you could help me on this, or at least guide me in the right direction, because android (especially eclair) is too awesome to abandon for this single issue.
By the way, everything else works, Wifi (with the mentioned update), GPS, Voice, and SuperEclair is the fastest that I've found so far.
I have seen a number of issues with data such as this, and i'm afraid none have had a truly satisfying resolution.
However I would try:
Downgrade the radio as planned, this may help, and certainly won't hurt.
Boot to installer, and run fix permissions and clear dalvik cache, this has been known to fix various issues, not certain why yet.
Double check the apn settings, especially the MCC and MCN settings, a lot of online guides seem to miss these two, but they are important.
Not sure where to point you after this, apart from a long trawl through the thread here, however if you do get it resolved please post back, and if not, try another post on it in the build thread, along with the steps you have taken to resolve it, it may convince someone to have a closer look at this issue.
data connection
I too have had this problem after installing a recent froyo build to nand....I had checked no.start data when flashing dzo's latest kernel using nbh editor and had to reset my apn settings. Remember to open your modem utility and press connect twice....this actually starts the connection......Radio type could also be an issue..Ive had good luck with the 165's with 2 different froyo builds....Hope this helps.....
Thanks for the replies! I'm going to try this out (need to recharge the data service on my prepaid) but one thing I did notice was that the MNC/MMC were different that those listed on my providers website. Hopefully this will help.
I have tried to switch on the data using the modem utility, and the utility itself says that data is connected, but it never really worked. In settings, there is an on/off switch for mobile internet, and a mobile internet settings. When I click the on/off switch, then mobile internet just goes gray and does nothing. I'll try to post back to the Super Eclair vogue board, but I think that Incubus might have moved on...
I'll update once I get my gprs service paid up. Again, thanks for the help!
The process com.android.phone has stopped
Those are my first Android experiences, so I`ve got problems .
Phone : Kaiser (TyTN II)
OS : Win Mo 6 Profess (original-not flashed)
Radio : 1.27.15.32
I`m trying to install Android on the SD card, without additional partitioning. I`m currently trying this Android version : Eclair 2.1 for Kaiser/Vogue/Polaris -- polymod 2.1 gamma [Based on OpenEclair 1.2.2 (XDA thread)]
and using this too : How to run Polymod’s AWESOME 2.1 Eclare Build and Updates (the forum didn`t allow me to post links for the Android versions). I`ve tryed this too : VaniljEclair RLS7c - A fast and stable CM 5.0.8 for Vogue/Kaiser/Polaris [2010-07-02] - the same result
I`ve done everything according the instructions... Starting Haret.. Hit D-Pad, Install, clear data... etc. etc... It actually starts to install... and everything seems fine... At some point it brings me again the install menu, I`m hitting exit, and then come some errors ?!? I forgot to type them down... Something like that some files cannot be found... And after rolling errors for a while the Android actually boots ! But then come errors too... At the first time it brings me the dial pad to enter my pin-code... I entered it , but it says it is wrong...I wasn`t wrong ofc . For the next time I simply disabled my pin in Win Mobile and try again... After the Android booted it says : The process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again. , and some button like "cancel" or something like that. I'm hitting it , the Android guy appears and a message " Hit the android to begin" with a hand pointing it. I`m hitting the android - nothing happened !
I`ll be greatfull if someone can help me , or at least give me some clues !
Thank you .
p.s. sorry for my english... not my native language ;-)
Your problems are mainly in the OS version, 6.0 is not recent enough to run Android, and the radio version will also give problems, my advice would be to update to the most recent stock version, which would enable you to run Android.
This would of course wipe your present installed OS and a more recent version may or may not exist for your language, ( with the wiki down I can't be more specific with which files would suit you best).
Thanks
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Your problems are mainly in the OS version, 6.0 is not recent enough to run Android, and the radio version will also give problems, my advice would be to update to the most recent stock version, which would enable you to run Android.
This would of course wipe your present installed OS and a more recent version may or may not exist for your language, ( with the wiki down I can't be more specific with which files would suit you best).
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Thank you for your fast response . But I`ve tryed (I`ve tryed again today) before to download an official WinMo 6.1 ROM from HTC_com , but according to my TyTN II`s serial number , they said : "Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device". And I want an original ROM... I`m not sure that I can manage to flash a cooked one on my HTC . So I guess I`ll stay with the original WinMo 6.0 withut Android .
Thanks anyway
To flash a cooked rom you would need HardSPL, it is possible to do this for WM 6.0.
Regarding an upgrade to WM6.1, this too should be possible, I'd tend to disregard the warnings about upgrades being 'unsuitable'. The unavailability of certain upgrades is more to do with them being designed for certain providers or areas, rather than their actual unsuitability for the device itself.
If you have a need for a language specific rom this too is probably available from another source, if the wiki was available then there is a table of rom upgrades that would almost certainly contain just what you would need.
Note that the wiki links are all official HTC roms, and would not need HardSPL.
@Zenity - You had given me some advice on getting the gprs working on my eclair install (Eclair problems/Android problems thread). Well, I ended up ditching Super Eclair for polymod 2.1d, and mobile data started working out of the box (which is odd, because it wasn't really working before, but who am I to question?!). Now my only issue is that if I activate wifi without first deactivating mobile data, then wifi gets caught in a loop and won't connect (i.e "Connecting, obtaining address, unsuccessful, connecting, obtaining address, unsuccessful" and on on on...). Then if I try to deactivate data or wifi, both get grayed out and say turning off, but never do. I'm fairly positive this is some conflict between data and wifi, because I've connected to the same AP without any issues while the data connection is off. Regardless, this is the most fully functional implementation that I've found. Still playing around, now that I have the time I'm diving a little further into tweaking and hacking through these releases.
Thanks for the help man. I've been on xda-devs since I first got this Att Tilt, mainly reading and learning, but I've noticed that a fair number of people don't take the time to further explicate and help people through problems and troubleshooting. You and kallt_kafee are both awesome when it comes to responding to less knowledgable users, and I for one really appreciate it. So Cheers, bro!
Thanks matcha, the main reason I still find polymod 2.1D my build of choice is that of them all, it just works, all the other builds do to, but I have found less issues from users on Polymod than the other builds, perhaps it's age has something to do with it, it has less 'new' features than the others, so less to go wrong, and perhaps also that it has grown with the whole android on kaiser project.
Anyway, appreciate the vote of confidence, really I'm just trying to give back a small measure of what Xda-Developers has given me
hi everybody!
first of all, i'd like to ask for your leniency since i'm a total noob here at xdadev.
I just got a T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2, and I have no complaints in terms of reception and connectivity. However, from the very beginning I have noticed that memory usage is high even with no apps running. I have stripped touchflo from all nonessential components, like weather, stocks, etc, but it makes little difference.
Also, the rom is loaded with apps that I don't need and apparently can't be uninstalled. As an experiment, I tried to install Gmail (tho you don't really need to) and I got the following error message:
installation failed, errno=910 Application authorization failure
what's up with that??
My previous device was a generic windows phone running windows mobile 6.5.2.23090 Pro, and I really liked the finger-friendly menus. i also had flexibility to configure the device that I seem to have lost completely with the touch pro 2.
I have considered installing a custom rom, but I really like touchflo, with the black/Grey/White interface, the smart looking flipping retro clock on the front, the dialer, the menus, the multimedia handlers, etc,.
Would I be able to install touchflo on top of a custom rom? your eyes must be rolling by now, but... i have looked and i've only found versions that are different from the one I have and love.
What do you guys think? do you have a specific rom or touchflo version to suggest? lemme know!
TouchFLO is old (Manila 2.0) and replaced with Sense (Manila 2.5). Basically the same thing, but better looking, and more functionality. TouchFLO/Sense cannot be installed onto a phone after the fact. It needs to be cooked in as part of the original ROM. If you like the HTC Manila UI, look for custom ROMs which have Sense. Most of the things you mention are the same/similar in Sense as TouchFLO (although I'm not familiar with what carrier customizations to TouchFLO the T-Mob version has).
Custom ROMs will solve your issue with the carrier bloatware, and many of them manage memory better than stock. Although, you will see there is huge variety in terms of looks and what apps are cooked-in. If you want a clean, lightweight ROM try simplicity or Jackos (Jackos is really good for memory management). Many people also like Valkyrie. Energy is very popular, with great looks and lots of cooked-in apps, but not the most lightweight.
Esmertec Jbed 20090506.2.1 by Aqrab works very well with Gmail.
thanks you guys! im soooooo on it!!
Custom ROM
Hi,
I just recently (like a week and a half ago) got a T-Mobile Touch Pro 2. I had been using an older HTC Touch Viva. It just like the TP2 I bought came with Windows Mobile 6.1. I used my Viva for quite a while with WM 6.1 before I found my way here to XDA.
I went very slowly at first flashing my first custom ROM onto my Viva but after a while got to a point that I was trying out a different ROM almost weekly. The problem is that a lot of these custom ROMs have bugs in them to some degree. So I went back and forth to find the ROM that I liked that seemed to run the smoothest.
As someone previously stated, the TouchFlo 2 interface is an older interface. But as I understand it it wasn't that it was replaced by Sense 2.5 but was created for phones that weren't as powerful. It didn't need quite as much graphical power to operate it and gave phones like the Touch Viva a nicer interface that looked a lot like the nicer Sense interface.
I spend quite a lot of time trying out different custom ROMs on my Viva so when I decided to upgrade my phone to the TP2 I had already scouted out the ROMs to some degree and had download a few to try out.
I too liked the finger friendly menus of Windows Mobile 6.5.x of the ROMs that I had been using on my Viva and knew that I wouldn't keep the OEM WM 6.1 on my TP2 any longer than I had to.
I went through a couple of custom ROMs for the TP2 before trying out the Simplicity ROM. It seems to still have the look and feel of an OEM style ROM without all of the bloat that comes with them, but this is only my opinion. You'll need to try out a few of them to see which one you like.
Good luck.
Dear All,
After I started this thread, a couple of noobs actually pm’d me to ask about my progress. They said they were too embarrassed to post their noob questions directly on my thread. Since I know the feeling, I will post a quick recap of what I did and where they can find the relevant information on xdadev.
First of all, before I began, I made sure I:
1) had my rhodium connected to my PC via Windows Mobile Device Manager (for XP users it would be Microsoft ActiveSync);
2) knew how to enter bootloader mode on my rhodium;
3) knew how to hard reset my rhodium;
4) had a backup copy of the latest official rom release from T-Mobile, just in case.
At this point I chose a custom rom from one of the many talented chefs on xdadev. My choice is the simple and gorgeous “Reference”, that NRGZ28 has created for htc rhodium. The full file name is:
Energy.RHODIUM.28244.Sense2.5.Reference.Nov.13.7z
And it can be found on the chef’s original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
STEP 1:
I downloaded and installed the ‘Hard-SPL’ package from the following thread (after I read the instructions):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
This tweak allowed my rhodium to 'accept' custom roms.
STEP 2 (NOT NECESSARY, BUT I DID IT BECAUSE MY ROM HAD BEEN FLASHED A FEW TIMES BEFORE):
I downloaded and ran Task 29 from the following thread (after I read the instructions):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191
This tool formatted the internal memory of my rhodium to remove any trace of previous roms.
At the end of the process, I was quick to put my rhodium in bootloader mode and proceed with STEP 3 below. However, if you allow the device to reboot, it will be stuck on the splash screen because task 29 has wiped the rom partition clean. It’s totally normal, so don’t freak out. All you have to do is yank the battery, restart the device in bootloader mode, and proceed with STEP 3.
STEP 3:
I ran the installer from my custom rom of choice. At the end of the process, I yanked the battery and hard reset the device. Then I repeated the operation one more time. It’s recommended to hard reset a couple of times after flashing a new rom. So what’s the point of waiting through the first run and customization screens twice just to hard reset?
If your chef doesn't provide specific installation instructions, you can read mskip's flashing guide for noobs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
The whole process ran smoothly and I’ve been enjoying my new rom for a few days now.
Next mission: get rid of that awful T-mobile splash screen at startup…
Peace-out
Thanks for posting your experience here for others.
But a couple comments:
Task29 is supposed to stop on the splash screen. Once it does, you hold the volume down button, while pressing and releasing the soft reset button with the stylus (under the battery cover). It says this in the Task29 instructions.
I usually do a hard reset after flashing the new ROM. Personally I only hard reset once. I think (not sure) its just to make sure that any previous data has been cleared. Pressing the soft reset button with the stylus does the same as pulling the battery, but to me a bit easier. And I've seen it cautioned here that the soft reset button is safer than pulling the battery.
Soft reset is less volatile on the flash memory. Always soft reset when possible. There is no need to hard reset if you perform a task29. Hard reset pretty much does the same thing. You only need to do EITHER a task29 OR a hard reset for best performance. Also, you only need to do a single hard reset if that's the route you choose. Doing two of them is a bit extreme.
Everybody thanks for your feedback!
I will correct the procedure accordingly should I need to flash the rom again in the future.
My experience is that the process itself is very simple; what makes it confusing is that the info is scattered all over the place, and sometimes there's too much unnecessary detail to sort through.
One way experienced xdadev contributors could make life easier for us mere mortals would be to state in more simple terms which devices their tool/rom is compatible with and how to check that you have the latest version. It took me a while to figure out, for example, which HSPL package was compatible with my rhodium and whether I had the latest release.
Anyway, thanks as usual for your gr8 work
There is only one Hard SPL tool. It's the only one in the Rhodium sub-forum. It's also the second thread in the ROM development area. Even if you were still confused in getting to that thread, the instructions in the first post are laid out clearly, and step-by-step. I don't get what was so confusing. It took me all of 3 hours to get my device set up the first time I began flashing ROMs.
bettasbetta said:
Next mission: get rid of that awful T-mobile splash screen at startup
Peace-out
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use this task29. it changes the boot screen to say Touch Pro 2. I use it on my sprint tp2 and my gf's tmobile tp2. it gets rid of the white htc screen on mine and the tmobile screen on hers.
mission complete
Peace
puff601 said:
use this task29. it changes the boot screen to say Touch Pro 2. I use it on my sprint tp2 and my gf's tmobile tp2. it gets rid of the white htc screen on mine and the tmobile screen on hers.
mission complete
Peace
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Do you even know what task29 does? It formats your internal memory, meaning it erases the ROM image. Don't use that RUU file. Just drop the NBH file into a folder with any other RUU and it will work exactly the same without destroying all of your data.
cajunflavoredbob said:
There is only one Hard SPL tool. It's the only one in the Rhodium sub-forum. It's also the second thread in the ROM development area. Even if you were still confused in getting to that thread, the instructions in the first post are laid out clearly, and step-by-step. I don't get what was so confusing. It took me all of 3 hours to get my device set up the first time I began flashing ROMs.
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The confusion arose from the fact that i wasnt sure whether the posts were up-to-date. When you're dealing with a phone that's been around for over two years, you gotta at least acknowledge the issue. I was concerned that an earlier version of hspl would not accept more recent custom roms.
Again, I only started the process once I was positive I had the latest compatible tools/rom, and I was done in less than one hour.
Thank you for all your input.