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Which Manilla

Which manilla theme do i use for touch HD i have tried a number from the thread but it did not work i downloaded it put it in storage card turned off touch flo on phone opened up cab file ran it then soft reset but it ws not in settings -toay - items. What am i doin wrong.

huggybear01 said:
Which manilla theme do i use for touch HD i have tried a number from the thread but it did not work i downloaded it put it in storage card turned off touch flo on phone opened up cab file ran it then soft reset but it ws not in settings -toay - items. What am i doin wrong.
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WOW man, you gotta give more information than that or nobody will know what your talking about
1. You need to know what version of manila you are running, 2.1, 2.5 etc.
2. Then you need to tell us what you are downloading?
3. With any theme that you apply to TF3D, regardless of the version, you will need to "Install to Device" and not to storage card.
Please give more info and we can help!

Currently i dont have manilla on the phone thats what i am trying to put on, when i went on the thread there are so many to choose from. I put the file on my storage card then opened up through the phone but i did install to device not storage card. Is there somthing i need to do first. sorry if not too clear i bit new at all of this.

huggybear01 said:
Currently i dont have manilla on the phone thats what i am trying to put on, when i went on the thread there are so many to choose from. I put the file on my storage card then opened up through the phone but i did install to device not storage card. Is there somthing i need to do first. sorry if not too clear i bit new at all of this.
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You do have manila on your phone. Touchflo (or TF3D) is manila, and so is Sense UI which you may have seen in these forums. They're HTC's proprietary UI. Touchflo is what came installed on your phone. It is being fazed out by HTC and replaced with Sense UI, though they are both made up of manila files and look very similar.
You need to tell us what you are trying to install (cab name?) and your manila version (look in Settings tab, About Phone, Software Information, Manila Version). I suspect you are running the stock rom, which would be Touchflo 1.3.
Most of the users here are using custom roms which include the latest versions of Sense UI - themes and modifications for Sense UI will not work with the older Touchflo. In other words if you want your phone to have all the functionality and look as cool as the pics you might have seen here you'll need to flash a custom rom There's a couple of excellent guides in the rom forum if you choose to go that route...

It says Touch flo for pocket pc version 3.0 is this what you mean

Found it you are right it is a 1.3 says touchFLO 3D 1.3 so are you now saying i am better to change this

Could you piont me in the right direction to flash my rom to sense UI just a point will i loose my data on the phone when i do this. Thanks

huggybear01 said:
Could you piont me in the right direction to flash my rom to sense UI just a point will i loose my data on the phone when i do this. Thanks
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your best bet is to have a look in the rom sub forum
I particlarly suggest you read
this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
Gary

Thanks read it is this the one i need or where you just showing me what is involved.

huggybear01 said:
Thanks read it is this the one i need or where you just showing me what is involved.
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That's the guide on how to flash. Take a look at the rom forum and look in each thread to see which one you like the look of. Bare in mind there are 2 different versions of Sense as well - 2.1 and 2.5. The difference is that 2.5 has quicklinks (program shortcuts on the home tab) and is more processor intensive than 2.1 (slower, potentially, though it's never bothered me). I'm using miniterror's Ravage rom myself, though I'm fond of Balaji's roms too. Ultimately it's very much a case of personal taste though. Yes you will lose all your data though you can back up texts and contacts etc with various apps like PIM backup and My Phone. Flashing custom roms can be very addictive, so be prepared to flash a rom today, decide it doesn't have everything you want, or has more than you need, and flash a new rom tomorrow. Make sure you read that guide and you can keep flashing til you land on a rom you really like

Another frustrated ROM updater

So yeah, this is post number 2,309 made by some guy who found all these instructions way too confusing.
I'm trying to install Baked Snack on my EVO, and I started out by using SimpleRoot to root my device, followed all the steps succesfully, and then I basically GUESSED (cause nobody says it outright) to go to EXTRA and FLASH RECOVERY, chose Clockwork, and then chose install ZIP from SD Card, picked out the BakedSnack zip file from my sd card, and the installation began, seemed to even work successfully, and even booted up (I LOVE that PC-like boot screen), gets to the point where it says ANDROID in ascii, and then it reboots... this cycle goes on forever.
anything I missed here?

I would start by doing a full wipe (options are in recovery), if that doesn't work reflash the rom.
You might also look at the topic titled 'How to start over: Fully rooted stock 1.47.651.1 in one shot (no adb!)' (Sorry I'm a new user so it won't let me post links) that way your at a good starting point to start playing with things.
Matt

When you went into recovery did you wipe the caches? Also...how long is "forever" ? Some initial boots may take a while (i.e. near 5min)...
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Best advice I can give is to root using roots method or the start over with the ota method.
Make sure you are nand unlocked also. Thats usually the source of all boot loops and I ain't talking cereal either.

Thanks
Thanks for the quick reply guys, I actually manage to go back to clockwork and delete all the cache, managed to finally boot up and it even seems to work well,
but I'm a little surprised, I thought this ROM was 2.2! I can't believe I did all this and I'm still at 2.1!
I WANT FROYO, whats the point?!

try ava's v2 froyo with sense if thats what yer hankering for.
If you want a clean 2.2 with no sense (haha) look at cm's . You won't find a finer substitute in the meantime.

Cyanogen is probably the best Froyo at the moment, but that's just my opinion. Remember though, there is no HTC Sense, and never will be, in a Cyanogenmod, so if you want the Sense interface, pass on Cyan, and go for AVA Froyo

howdyace said:
try ava's v2 froyo with sense if thats what yer hankering for.
If you want a clean 2.2 with no sense (haha) look at cm's . You won't find a finer substitute in the meantime.
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Lol, stole my thunder, and said it backasswerdz....lol....

Senior member now. Gives me special access to posts before you junior newbs.

howdyace said:
Senior member now. Gives me special access to posts before you junior newbs.
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How so? Never noticed anything of the such

rjmjr69 said:
How so? Never noticed anything of the such
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Step 1: Hold hand out with palm facing up.
Step 2: Proceed to lower your face down into your open palm.
Step 3: Facepalm.

which recovery and how are you updating the rom?

Do these new roms have all the improvement that baked snack has? (battery life, apps, wifi tethering, etc...)
I've been reading on them in the forums, and it seems they're all missing important features (like front facing camera, facebook sync, 4G, and more)

yoerz said:
Do these new roms have all the improvement that baked snack has? (battery life, apps, wifi tethering, etc...)
I've been reading on them in the forums, and it seems they're all missing important features (like front facing camera, facebook sync, 4G, and more)
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You will have to check with each rom for the better battery life, that deals more with lowering voltage. Apps and tethering should work just the same.
Only the 2.1 roms have all the functionality atm, hence why they are still popular. Once HTC releases their Evo flavored Froyo you can expect better roms.

[Q] Several Noobish questions

i have a couple of questions that are burning a hole in my head so i need to let loose with them.
1)
how can i tell what rom i flashed? i know dumb a$$ question but i forgot which rom i flashed since it was one that came out the night 2.2 official was dumped and it was the first stock 2.2 deodexed released.
i have several (ok a crap load) downloaded and a few on my sdcard. how can i tell which stock deodexed 2.2 rom i flashed? is there an app that will tell me. Phone's software info doesnt have the authors name in the version name, so i cant tell which.
2)
i want to try a few other rom's but dont want to lose the rom i have because everyting works 100% and i like that, regardless of who makes the rom.
what can i use to backup my current phone memory so that if i dont like the other roms i can just revert back.
nand backup doesnt do this right? (even though the size of the backup to me denotes it just might be the ticket)
3)
is there an app, via market, here, or sdk tools/emulator where i can take and tweak the speed at which things open.
its my thought that many roms are faster because the opening speed is altered so things open faster. just like you can do in LauncherPro.
is there a way that i can do this within the phone or externally to a file or two and then adb it back to the phone?
4)
i will add more, i am forgetting some i know.

1) well i can tell you what kernel, by going to about phone> software info
2)use rom manager when installing new rom, and itll ask u to make a backup, so when ever u want to go back to the old rom, restoe u last backup
3)i dont know about open close speed, but for phone speed itself, use setCPU and that controls how much of the CPU is being used when its (charging, screen off, etc.)

thanks Rocklee,
1)
kernel is easy, but i guess that doesnt really tell me which rom right? well not directly.
2.6.32.15-g746f4f0
[email protected] #58
2)
i thought rom manager wasnt recommended much anymore? this is just things i read, probably just certain roms i suppose. i really dont see amny people talking about it. and it does only support a few roms in terms of downloading.
3)
setcpu wont effect the opening/closing speed in the manor that i spoke of but good call. i guess because launcherpro can adjust the opening speed of certain things i assumed Sense had that ability hidden somewhere too.

v_lestat said:
thanks Rocklee,
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kernel is easy, but i guess that doesnt really tell me which rom right? well not directly.
2.6.32.15-g746f4f0
[email protected] #58
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i thought rom manager wasnt recommended much anymore? this is just things i read, probably just certain roms i suppose. i really dont see amny people talking about it. and it does only support a few roms in terms of downloading.
3)
setcpu wont effect the opening/closing speed in the manor that i spoke of but good call. i guess because launcherpro can adjust the opening speed of certain things i assumed Sense had that ability hidden somewhere too.
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2) ROM Manager is just fine. If you buy into the rumors about ClockworkMod not wiping correctly, just flash Amon RA instead, you can use either one with RM. You can download ROMs over the normal Internet, too, you know. Just copy them to the root of your SD card.

v_lestat said:
thanks Rocklee,
1)
kernel is easy, but i guess that doesnt really tell me which rom right? well not directly.
2.6.32.15-g746f4f0
[email protected] #58
2)
i thought rom manager wasnt recommended much anymore? this is just things i read, probably just certain roms i suppose. i really dont see amny people talking about it. and it does only support a few roms in terms of downloading.
3)
setcpu wont effect the opening/closing speed in the manor that i spoke of but good call. i guess because launcherpro can adjust the opening speed of certain things i assumed Sense had that ability hidden somewhere too.
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1 - check the software information screen under software number - some devs put their infor there - mine says "Baked Snack 1.2.5" telling me exactly what ROM I'm using.
2 - I don't use ROM Manager anymore because frankly, I just don't trust it. I don't know what it's wiping when it says clear cache, and there have been too many questions with how efective it wipes, even through recovery. Having said that, if you do want to back up, I would recommend not doing it through rom manager, but directly through recovery instead (hold volume down and power with the phone off). From here, you can nand a full backup, and also restore that backup to get your phone to the exact same state it was in if you screw up somewhere.
3 - nothing on this - pretty sure that's specific to launcherpro.

Thanks for the reply
Yup I am aware of everything you just mentioned.
I just didn't think a nand backup would restore if you flashed a new rom.
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v_lestat said:
Thanks for the reply
Yup I am aware of everything you just mentioned.
I just didn't think a nand backup would restore if you flashed a new rom.
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Just a quick tip using Nand....once you create a backup, plug your phone in to your computer, go on to your SD card in the folder named "nanadroid" open it and then open the folder with your device name on it and "rename" your backup to whatever you want. I created about 5 backups and then I wanted to flash a previous one and couldnt figure out which file was which lol. Oh and remember not to use spaces when renaming....use_underscores.

Launcherpro has setting that controls open and close speed. Stock is set at 4, but I set mine at 10, and everything is instant.
Edit: disregard, I didn't read your questions fully, sorry. Didn't see you mentioned Launcherpro.
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[Q] irc, myn's rls5, toastmod kernal.....wth is wrong

Ok since this the third time typing this here is the condensed version. Running myns rls5 ontop of toastmod kernel listed on same page. Initial flash went ok minus the Flickr screen, distortion lines laterally, horrendous battery life, weird boot process...osmonitor I had to install due to interference with the OS. Myns crashed a lot with in first flash. Also some one dumb down how to use an irc app cuz I'm also lost....also what IM service can I get hold of u guys on cuz I hate forums.... too impatient

Ok no help? Not even some direction for irc where I can get some real help? Well just flashed a diff kernel thanks for the help guys. The Droid community has been a very unhelpful one compared to iPhone....
(irc help would be awesome still since I now have some help with main issue- I enter all the correct info into the app but it shows nothin. I've tried several to no avail. I appreciate the help) second I've ran into more pretentious ppl in these forums for Android then others no offense to the good guys but just my exp. It was brash to say that in this post tho. Thank you guys again for the ones willing.

That's because even the biggest idiot can work an iphone.

Jataadroid said:
Ok no help? Not even some direction for irc where I can get some real help? Well just flashed a diff kernel thanks for the help guys. The Droid community has been a very unhelpful one compared to iPhone....
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Jataadroid said:
Ok since this the third time typing this here is the condensed version. Running myns rls5 ontop of toastmod kernel listed on same page. Initial flash went ok minus the Flickr screen, distortion lines laterally, horrendous battery life, weird boot process...osmonitor I had to install due to interference with the OS. Myns crashed a lot with in first flash. Also some one dumb down how to use an irc app cuz I'm also lost....also what IM service can I get hold of u guys on cuz I hate forums.... too impatient
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Patience dude. I didn't catch it, but what exact kernel are you using, net has a lot of em, the one in the OP of myn's thread you mean? What recovery(and version of that recovery, some versions of clockwork floating around that have some bugs i think) did you use to flash the rom? what radio version and pri version do you currently have installed? Which ROM were you coming from, and did you do a full wipe(data, cache, davlik cache) before flashing it? I have never experienced anything like you are describing whilst using Myn's, his ROMs have been solid. Give a little more info and surely we can help you get running smoothly again.

thanks for the reply heres the details...myn's rls5, net toast havs more, ra_superson
Sincerely thanks for your reply. Typing this on my evo as my screen tears on and off. Running ra_supersonic(newest ver.) With Myns rls5 on net havs more smartass as listed on page. Updated to current radio and pri as listed on his post. Only dalvik and cache wiped not data. Flashed
Hulu and data governor hacks...CPU is only overlooked to 1190 in smartass and can't go any higher. This was my first root and flash so came from stock 2.2 on 3.30 ver. Have noticed avg using temp is around 103 off charger, cameras broke, my CPU in system panel says I'm running 100% continuously. Did a fast reboot , norm reboot, and still doin it. I had diminished battery life from the get go, I understand battery life per clockspeed relation but have underclocked profile to try to assist, which only cause frustration when coming back from lock screen and its still tryin to switch profile. Lagged the phone nearly locked out several times cuz it couldn't keep up with my fingers.0003 hw....I think that's it. Thank you again

Looks like we're running nearly the same setup, minus my ra_supersonic 2.2.1 recovery. I have attempted the stock kernel furnished in the Rom zip but since it didn't offer overclock I switched to net havs more smartass. I do the dalvik and cache wipe each time.

Jataadroid said:
Sincerely thanks for your reply. Typing this on my evo as my screen tears on and off. Running ra_supersonic(newest ver.) With Myns rls5 on net havs more smartass as listed on page. Updated to current radio and pri as listed on his post. Only dalvik and cache wiped not data. Flashed
Hulu and data governor hacks...CPU is only overlooked to 1190 in smartass and can't go any higher. This was my first root and flash so came from stock 2.2 on 3.30 ver. Have noticed avg using temp is around 103 off charger, cameras broke, my CPU in system panel says I'm running 100% continuously. Did a fast reboot , norm reboot, and still doin it. I had diminished battery life from the get go, I understand battery life per clockspeed relation but have underclocked profile to try to assist, which only cause frustration when coming back from lock screen and its still tryin to switch profile. Lagged the phone nearly locked out several times cuz it couldn't keep up with my fingers.0003 hw....I think that's it. Thank you again
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Not trying to be a smart ass but do you realize that by insulting us will not get you any help? Rhetorical question
From reading what you jus stated the obvious problem is you did not do a FULL WIPE as you should do when flashing between roms.
Also next time please be patient as those like myself who browse through this section to help impatient ppl like your self, do actually have a life outside of xda. Its been a big snow storm in the southeast so most like myself included are outside enjoying the snow!
DO A FULL WIPE THEN REPORT BACK!

Gonna ignore the soap box chatter...
Obviously know I didn't do full wipe.....just gonna wait for other poster

gotta do a full wipe if you are switching between roms
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also make sure whatever kernel your using works with the 3.70 based roms, as many dont.
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Ok. Well crap.... thanks guys since that is apparently my only option.

OneStepAhead said:
also make sure whatever kernel your using works with the 3.70 based roms, as many dont.
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The kernel was included in the op and I've seen tags with same setup as mine.

Jataadroid said:
Gonna ignore the soap box chatter...
Obviously know I didn't do full wipe.....just gonna wait for other poster
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Sorry you feel that way but since i have had the hero, on every thread about a rom says wipe all! This must be a joke for someone as rude as yourself to come on here and disrespect those who are trying to help.
Next time you decide to flash a rom remember to do a full wipe because inside the data partition is files for the particular rom, if you dont wipe, the new files will just over lay but not delete the old one. This will cause conflicting issues within the files as the phone tries to do both at the same time.

Screen tearing and the "jigglies" as I like to call it have always come from kernels - in my experience. And just because someone might have the same set up as you, the way it affects your phone ccan be quite different as you are running different apps, different settings, etc.
First thing I would do if I were you is to freeze any kernel govenor you are using - no setcpu, no secreen off profile, no set on boot, no os monitor govenor, no nothing like that. You don't want want any of that going on when you flash a new rom or kernel.
I know you don't want to do a full data wipe so let's see if we cna get you going without that. I used to HATE doing data wipes, I don't mind so much now because I've learned that trobule shooting can frequently take longer than just doing a data wipe.
I would say #1 make sure you are using AMON RA. Power button-reboot-recovery. Wipe cache at least twice, wipe dalvik at least twice. Now JUST flash the rom (you've already said your radios are updated so you wont have a problem with this). Let the phone boot up and give it time to settle in. You wont have any screan tearing. Now you're running a completely stock Myn's rls5 rom. Check some stuff out, make sure your basic settings are good, make sure your 4g is not scanning, etc.
Make a nandroid of this and keep it.
Now start making changes if you'd like. Flash a different font, flash a different kernel, etc. But leave all the governors OFF until you have a kernel that you KNOW will run ok on your phone. For example - I can run 2 of ziggy's kernels but the others don't work for me. I can run a few of net's kernels, but many don't work for me.
So my basic suggestion is to make sure you get a stable, stock Myn's rls5 on your phone before you mod it. If you can't get that, then yes - you might want to wipe data. Doing a batch backup in Titanium is really easy and it makes restoring very easy as well. It's our own customizing that is time consuming because we are all probably very picky (and proud!) of our beautiful phones.

Thanks for the helpful info from ALL that posted. I understand the risk of the non entire wipe, nandroid is safe of original stock Rom but not of new one. After tinkering with setcpu I've gotten more consistent stability. I know I will reflash with an entire data wipe here soon to see results. Running ra_supersonic 2.2.1 recovery.
I've made list of check point when I test some new Roms and kernels. I have some more question on backing up user info from backed up apps but Im sure ill find it on here.
Now that my system is stable for the time being, some one mind help me setup irc? And also has anyone issues with camera breaking with this Rom or kernel? I should wait to wipe entirely to see if it fixes, but I'd rather not waste my time with this Rom or kernel if the camera won't work. Love everything else about this Rom, need to learn more about the kernel to praise it. Ra_supersonic 2.2.1 recovery i like also.

Jataadroid said:
Sincerely thanks for your reply. Typing this on my evo as my screen tears on and off. Running ra_supersonic(newest ver.) With Myns rls5 on net havs more smartass as listed on page. Updated to current radio and pri as listed on his post. Only dalvik and cache wiped not data. Flashed
Hulu and data governor hacks...CPU is only overlooked to 1190 in smartass and can't go any higher. This was my first root and flash so came from stock 2.2 on 3.30 ver. Have noticed avg using temp is around 103 off charger, cameras broke, my CPU in system panel says I'm running 100% continuously. Did a fast reboot , norm reboot, and still doin it. I had diminished battery life from the get go, I understand battery life per clockspeed relation but have underclocked profile to try to assist, which only cause frustration when coming back from lock screen and its still tryin to switch profile. Lagged the phone nearly locked out several times cuz it couldn't keep up with my fingers.0003 hw....I think that's it. Thank you again
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You're welcome. I am late at getting back to this post, but yea. Definitely. As everyone else has suggested, you have to do a full wipe when changing ROMS. Only time you could get away with just wiping davlik cache and cache is when upgrading the same rom ( like from rls 3 to rls 4, and rls to rls 5), but even then, it doesn't always work. Full wipe is always recommended. I would also recommend downloading your apps one at a time from the market, and adding your mods one at a time, make sure everything is stable after each flash. Good luck.

QUOTE And also has anyone issues with camera breaking with this Rom or kernel? I should wait to wipe entirely to see if it fixes, but I'd rather not waste my time with this Rom or kernel if the camera won't work. Love everything else about this Rom, need to learn more about the kernel to praise it QUOTE
If your phone is the newer hardware (late 003 or 004), you can only use the stock kernel, or a kernel based off stock for the camera to work. That would be htc #15. I believe Net's 4.3 kernels are based off of that. I am also pretty sure that Net explains that in his kernel thread in the development section.

Thanks guys did the full wipe and reflashed, working ok except SD file permissions are screwed up now. I go to test camera and it says insufficient file permissions when I take a pic. I go to check in astro, I see all the file that are supposed to be there but no editing; it still shows rw. Did not have card in when full wipe was completed would that effect it? Any help? Haven't attempted another SD card. I hope this isn't the second SD card to be trashed during my rooting process. Atleast I can still see that there r files on there. Thanks for the help.
Also any help gettin set with irc? Still having a horrible time trying to work with it....it seems so simple.... so 0003hw are stuck with stock roms or ones based off them...I believe nets kernel on that page was. I will test it out and let you know. I just need to know about the SD card problem. Thanks again guys.

Theres been lots of issues with 3.70 based roms. I always stick to lower versions..usually 3.30 and have no problems.. i also hace seen alot of people having battery problems on 3.70 after updating to 1.90 pri. They usually downgrade to pri 1.77 and there good.....
Evo - Myn 2.2 RLS 3 - Clockwork - HBoot .76

r.storm85 said:
Theres been lots of issues with 3.70 based roms. I always stick to lower versions..usually 3.30 and have no problems.. i also hace seen alot of people having battery problems on 3.70 after updating to 1.90 pri. They usually downgrade to pri 1.77 and there good.....
Evo - Myn 2.2 RLS 3 - Clockwork - HBoot .76
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This isn't true, the problem is ALWAYS the kernel. I'm running myn rls5 and mikfroyo 4.3 with an SBC #15 v7 kernel (i'll edit post and add the link) and I have had zero issues except I can't download MMS messages on 4g on mikfroyo.
Jataadroid said:
Thanks guys did the full wipe and reflashed, working ok except SD file permissions are screwed up now. I go to test camera and it says insufficient file permissions when I take a pic. I go to check in astro, I see all the file that are supposed to be there but no editing; it still shows rw. Did not have card in when full wipe was completed would that effect it? Any help? Haven't attempted another SD card. I hope this isn't the second SD card to be trashed during my rooting process. Atleast I can still see that there r files on there. Thanks for the help.
Also any help gettin set with irc? Still having a horrible time trying to work with it....it seems so simple.... so 0003hw are stuck with stock roms or ones based off them...I believe nets kernel on that page was. I will test it out and let you know. I just need to know about the SD card problem. Thanks again guys.
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Okay, this process will 100% work. It's the one I've been using since my lowly mytouch slide oh so many months ago.
*before you do this, make sure you have backups of your nandroid and your rsa keys. I'll edit post and give you links on how to back up your rsa keys*
RSA Key back-up: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887900 ...since you're rooted you can go straight to the part where it says "if you're rooted do this.."
1. First you need to fix the sd card. Create a folder on your computer desktop and call it "my sd card". Plug your phone into the computer and select "disk drive". Next you're going to copy EVERYTHING from the sd card and place it in the folder on the desktop (and dude I mean everything! AS IS, DON'T CHANGE ANY NAMES). Then, you're going to unhook your phone, go to settings>sd and phone storage. Then you're going to format your sd card. Yes, do it, but make sure you have EVERYTHING backed up first. After that's done, plug your phone back in, select disk drive and copy everything from your "my sd card" folder on your computer and put it back onto your sd card.
*phew*
Okay now that the sd problem is fixed, here's how you fix the rest. You see, when you upgrade your PRI to 1.90 and your radio, etc etc you gotta update the kernel to a version that's 1.90 supported. I'll edit post and post a link to where you can find one OR you can just use the kernel that's included with myn's rom because it WILL WORK. *edit* the kernel I'm using has been taken down because of the witch hunt against SBC kernels. So for now, just stick with stock. It works just fine.
Anyway.
Steps to getting myn working perfectly.
*before starting, re-download myn rls5 in case the screen flickering was caused by a corrupted download*
1. Download Titanium Back-up from the market. Back up all the apps you want to keep (basically, anything you downloaded from the market as you'll get facebook, sense widgets, etc back). You can do this while you re-download the rom.
2. Make a nandroid back-up in case something goes seriously wrong. A rom that flickers your screen is better than a brick.
3. Once that back-up is done, reboot into recovery. Once there, you're going to WIPE EVERYTHING. Full data, cache and dalvik wipe. Yes, do it. There is no other option.
3. Flash myn's rom. Let it go all the way through. Do NOT flash a new kernel until you've found one that's 3.70 compatible and works with PRI 1.90. Myn rls5 is designed to work with the newest updates (which means a #15 kernel, like the one that came stock).
4. Reboot. If the screen is still flickering, then at this point it's a hardware problem. Flash back to stock, unroot and go get a new one. If it works fine, re-download titanium back-up from the market and restore all your apps. From there it's just putting your widgets back on your home screen.
From here, you can search the forums for a kernel that works with the newest updates. If you read them, they'll tell you what they're compatible with. Remember do NOT use an AOSP kernel with a SENSE rom, that's just spells IDIOCY. Until you find a kernel that works, stick with the one that came with the rom because everyone knows that one works.
I hope this helps. As for the IRC chat, not all the experts are on all the time. If no one is online that can help when you get one, try getting a few hours earlier or a few hours later.

[Q] Please explain various technical terms related to Roms?

Hello guys,
I posted this problem in leedroid's thread as well did not get any replies. I would really appreciate if any is kind enough to explain these major terms related to flashing of roms......i.e.
Kernel
Radio
S-off vs Radio-off
Stock Kernel vs Other Kernels
Besidws, this I have one issue, that my Lee HD Rom is a little bit lagging.
I am using the Lee Droid HD 3.0.3. I am pretty much new to flashing roms and in fact this is my first ever installation.
Also, I never installed any radio because I do not know what is it for?
I also did not install the stock kernel, again because I do lot know what is the first one for and why we need 2. Please be generous to my lack of knowledge.
Also, I have done a full wipe and everything. Any ideas, if installing the radio will help on getting rid of lagging abd making it run a bit smoother.
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Google is your friend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079108
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Ok i'll give this a shot.
Kernel - This is pretty much the backbone of the phone. It contains all the drivers, such as graphic driver, audio, touch driver, sensors etc. So optimizations in the kernel really improve overall performance. Lee probably has the best kernels.
Radio - This is responsible for functions such as wifi, bluetooth, phone signal. Pretty much all wireless functions.
S-OFF vs. Radio S-OFF - ok here my knowledge may be a little rusty. From what i remember, if you have ENG S-OFF, then you are able to flash the recover (CWM) and roms, and with Radio-OFF you are able to run fastboot commands as well as downgrade your radio version. Again not too sure on this one.
Stock Kernel vs. Other Kernel - well like i said earlier, the kernel contains all the drivers, so obviously a custom one will have optimizations here such as increased audio levels, improved GPU performance, overclocking CPU, and so on.
Ok as for you comment on Leedroid lagging, that is very unusual because imo Leedroid is the smoothest Sense experience around. After a full wipe fresh install there should be no lag, then reinstall your apps from the market (not Titanium), and after that's done restore only Data from Titanium. This will ensure there's no conflicts with apps which could be causing your lag somehow.
I really recommend you read up on flashing radios. You probably have an old one which does not match your rom version. It's always recommended to match your rom version with radio version. If they are not matching, then you could get bad signal and battery drain. Here's a guide on how to install radios:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
And here you can get the radio for your rom version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877295
Recommended for Leedroid is the Radio from 28 April 2011.
Since you are on Leedroid 3.0.3, there's no need for the stock kernel. Leedroid's kernel is WAY better, trust me So dont worry about that.
Ok so just to bring the point across more clear, these are the steps i suggest you follow for installing the rom and ensuring there's no problems.
-Backup all apps with Titanium
-In CWM perform full wipe
-Install Leedroid (I suggest you go for his newer version 3.1.0, it's much smoother)
-Once booted up let the market reinstall your apps (not titanium)
-Then use Titanium to restore data only after all apps have finished installing.
-Perform a full reboot for apps to restore data correctly.
-At this point i would follow the guide to install the radio.
And that should be it. Damn that's a mountain of text. Hope you (or anybody else) finds this helpful

SupremeBeaver said:
-At this point i would follow the guide to install the radio.
And that should be it. Damn that's a mountain of text. Hope you (or anybody else) finds this helpful
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Thanks a lot mate, just gonna backup my apps now for flashing the new version. Really appreciate your help and concern.
Just 2 more quick questions:
1) There are 3 options in Tit Backup:
#Backup all user apps or Backup all system data or Backup all user apps+System Data (which is better you reckon)
2) Is the radio to be installed in the end after installing all backups and apps and everything.

friendly.stranger said:
Thanks a lot mate, just gonna backup my apps now for flashing the new version. Really appreciate your help and concern.
Just 2 more quick questions:
1) There are 3 options in Tit Backup:
#Backup all user apps or Backup all system data or Backup all user apps+System Data (which is better you reckon)
2) Is the radio to be installed in the end after installing all backups and apps and everything.
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Hey there,
hmm lets see. Choose "Backup all user apps + system data. And when you finally install your apps choose "Restore all apps with data". Ok after selecting that make sure to tick "Data only" and here's the important bit, make sure to scroll through and untick all red system apps. Hopefully you have Titanium Pro because i think in the lite version you might have to do all this manually.
As for radio, truthfully it doesnt matter at all whether you flash it before or after the rom. You can choose because the radio is totally separate from the rom.
Hope this helps. Good luck and let me know if you run into any problems (which you shouldn't )

Woooah, a quick reply. You know what- "You Sir are a Rokstar"
And Thanks for your offer mate. Will be bak in sometime.
Take Care

friendly.stranger said:
Woooah, a quick reply. You know what- "You Sir are a Rokstar"
And Thanks for your offer mate. Will be bak in sometime.
Take Care
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Hehe no problem dood

I did install everything as instructed and I was indeed very happy with the smoothness. I was loving it until I installed all my apps again ad started inserting ma widgets. After I was done, the lagging came back.
Just to let you know, I am using Folder organizer widgets on 2 home screens. News' widgets on one, Friend Stream on one and People Widget on one. Some shortcuts on 1, Music Player, Evernote, Flixter, Htc Weather Animations, widget locker,
I think too may apps must be doing it......any suggestions. I am ok to start getting rid of apps. All I want is perfomance.
PS: DO You think set cpu would be any help, Downloaded it but not so sure on how to use it ??

friendly.stranger said:
I did install everything as instructed and I was indeed very happy with the smoothness. I was loving it until I installed all my apps again ad started inserting ma widgets. After I was done, the lagging came back.
Just to let you know, I am using Folder organizer widgets on 2 home screens. News' widgets on one, Friend Stream on one and People Widget on one. Some shortcuts on 1, Music Player, Evernote, Flixter, Htc Weather Animations, widget locker,
I think too may apps must be doing it......any suggestions. I am ok to start getting rid of apps. All I want is perfomance.
PS: DO You think set cpu would be any help, Downloaded it but not so sure on how to use it ??
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Well then it must be an app causing this. If i were you i would download one app at a time and check between installs to see if you still retain the smoothness. This way you can pinpoint the culprit. From the apps you mentioned i wouldn't be able to guess which one is responsible.
SetCPU is always good to have maybe for benchmarking but for general use not necessary. I don't use Setcpu yet i still have a super smooth experience.

Alright......Thanks. I think I would go for another wipe today.

Thanks for replying in lee's thread mate but more than information about flashing, I desire to understand the concept of md5 checksums.
Also, everyone keeps saying check the 'md5 sum' but with what should I match the kernel's md5 checksum........ROM or Radio or both? If I have to match it to ROM, does that mean the new kernel isn't compatible with the older version of ROM because how I understand it that the ROM v3.1.1 (the one am using) and new Kernel v3.1.4 will not really have same value for md5 checksum......isn't it?
I hope it does make sense, Thanks.
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friendly.stranger said:
Thanks for replying in lee's thread mate but more than information about flashing, I desire to understand the concept of md5 checksums.
Also, everyone keeps saying check the 'md5 sum' but with what should I match the kernel's md5 checksum........ROM or Radio or both? If I have to match it to ROM, does that mean the new kernel isn't compatible with the older version of ROM because how I understand it that the ROM v3.1.1 (the one am using) and new Kernel v3.1.4 will not really have same value for md5 checksum......isn't it?
I hope it does make sense, Thanks.
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An md5 checksum is simply a code attached to a file. So if you download a file and the md5 is different from the correct one (the one Lee provides), that means there is a difference in the file. So it could mean a corrupt download.
So what you do is download the rom or kernel, generate the md5 sum yourself with an app or program on your pc. This is the number specific to the file you just downloaded. Then you check to see if that matches the same number Lee provides for that same file. If it matches, then the file is exactly the same (not corrupt).
You can use this application to check the md5 of your files.
http://www.mediafire.com/?wuo55vkemcbbyxr
Simply drag the file into the exe and it will open up with a long string of numbers and letters.
So to give an example, you download Lee's latest rom, drag the file into that md5sums.exe i linked, then it gives the code. Check to see if it's the same as the one Lee wrote next to the download link for the rom.
Hope im understandable.

Thanks man. I think using astro file manager for taking the md5 sum is far easier...isn't it?
And you always are understandable.....
Take care
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