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[[RESOLVED]] Can you s-on after unroot?

I had to unroot my phone so that i could take it back to sprint. I am taking it back to sprint because my power/wake button is not working. i ran the ruu.exe but i forgot to turn the s back on before unrooting. so baically my phone is stock with s-off. did i screw myself. do i have to reroot my phone then turn s-on then unroot again. or can someone please tell me how to turn s-on while stock.
thanks
Edit: See final post for fix.

I think you have to reroot your phone. You need to get into recovery to flash the S-on tool.

gamefreke89 said:
I think you have to reroot your phone. You need to get into recovery to flash the S-on tool.
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well bud since you are the only to respond i guess root it is. i tried unrevoked3 but thats a no go since i cant use the power button. i cant get it into hboot usb. but thanks.

caguirr4 said:
well bud since you are the only to respond i guess root it is. i tried unrevoked3 but thats a no go since i cant use the power button. i cant get it into hboot usb. but thanks.
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mmm i run the RUU the other day and i didnt lost root. i have the s-off n i can still go to recovery. hey i think u can flash a recovery zip (PC36IMG) that mite work.. HERES DA LINK U HAVE TO COPY N PASTE scroll down where it says downloads n download the recovery zip. PC36IMG_RECOVERY.ZIP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045

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So I flashed the RUU.exe(3.29.651.5). it replaced everything back to stock.(i.e. the splash1.img, removed custom recovery,stock boot animation,and removed superuser permissions.) but i forgot to run unrevoked forever s-on.zip. so I had completely unrooted my phone but it was nand unlocked. and because of the problem i was having with the phone i couldnt just run unrevoked3 for a quick root. so here's what i did:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690762
this is toast's method of rooting. but i only did the first half. the part where you download the pc36IMG.zip and update. pretty long and tedious process but it got the job done. maybe it will hel someone else.
for the recovery i just installed from the market, rom manager and chainsdd superuser permission app. the su app was to grant permissions to rom manager. then just flashed recovery img with rom manager.
i then put Unrevokedforeverson.zip on the root of sd card and ran the zip from rom manager so that i wouldnt have to use power or volume buttons.
verified that s was on. and then ran the ruu.exe again.

Thanks for this!!!!
I had the same issue and followed your instructions and IT WORKED!!!
One question - how did you check if S was ON after running the RUU?
Since I can't use the Power button, I was wondering how you did it?
THANKS AGAIN!!!!!

ucf.elk said:
Thanks for this!!!!
I had the same issue and followed your instructions and IT WORKED!!!
One question - how did you check if S was ON after running the RUU?
Since I can't use the Power button, I was wondering how you did it?
THANKS AGAIN!!!!!
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My power button was stuck in the held position I think. I just did a battery pull and before reinserting. The battery I held the volume. Down and power down too boot into boot loader. That is where you see s—on or s—off.
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ucf.elk said:
Thanks for this!!!!
I had the same issue and followed your instructions and IT WORKED!!!
One question - how did you check if S was ON after running the RUU?
Since I can't use the Power button, I was wondering how you did it?
THANKS AGAIN!!!!!
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You can also use the adb reboot recovery command in adb to reboot the phone into recovery. I plan on unrooting and using this ruu later since my mic isnt working and need to take it to sprint. I dont want to use the newest ruu's since I dont want to risk my hboot getting switched to one of the more difficult hboots since I plan on rerooting once the mic gets fixed. Hopefully the mic can get fixed and I can keep my current phone.

[Q] Question about Unrevoked3 and S-OFF...

Hi Guys,
I have a quick one...
I rooted by DInc using Unrevoked3, with the S-ON option. I had the original Eclair build on, I updated to Froyo and then used the tool to root, and install Clockwork Recovery...
Now, I am learning that with the S-ON option, there are far too many limitations on customization of the phone. I have had various custom ROMs on the phone, since the root, and now I am wonder, basically how to get to the same exact place, with the S-OFF?
Should I just run the Unrevoked3 flash program on my phone again, with the Security disabled this time, and then just use Nandroid to restore one of my ROMs I currently have running?
Can someone please confirm this process, step by step for me? I don't want to brick my phone....
Any help is appreciated guys, thank you!

Just run unrevoked again, this time with s-off, i don't believe re-rooting when you are already rooted will cause a brick. You don't even have to reinstall the rom.

g00s3y said:
Just run unrevoked again, this time with s-off, i don't believe re-rooting when you are already rooted will cause a brick. You don't even have to reinstall the rom.
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Thanks for your response g00s3y! Is there a way to make sure of this, by any chance? It's my only phone for now... don't wanna brick it ...

I reran root a couple times, worked fine even over root

PGleo86 said:
I reran root a couple times, worked fine even over root
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Thank you Sir! Appreciate both your help !!

ProFragger said:
Thank you Sir! Appreciate both your help !!
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No problem So you got S-OFF yet?

PGleo86 said:
No problem So you got S-OFF yet?
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Yes it worked, thanks PGleo86 !

[Q] Go back to stock rom? or re flash?

I downgraded and flashed my HTC Telus Desire HD with Android Revolution HD 3.3. This worked fine.
Until I went to flash the radio with the recomended radio. When I open up VISIONary to do a temp root, it seems to do nothing, it will not go past "rooting device, please wait...." I have tried flashing the radio by going into the "bootloader" at phone start up and flashing the radio image that way with no luck neither.
I believe the program Superuser is not functioning correctly....I say this only because I have installed the SU Update Fixer program, it says "signatures don't match, fix now?" and it stops at a point where it says " changing file mode to 644..."
Should I go back to a stock rom? Or should I reflash Android Revolution? I am beginning to think that these custom roms are not worth it for me.
PLEASE HELP!

Why didnt you permroot to start off with? And dont worry about update fixer thats only if u use superuser frm market ur using the one provided with your rom
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snowwhite007 said:
Why didnt you permroot to start off with?
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I guess I didn't do enough reading, and dove in head first. In short I F'd up!
Needless to say, I need HELP.

You have to temproot and then again permroot it. Then only your Superuser can actually work on and off.
If you mention about flashing radios, obtaining a Superuser is not enough. You have to had Radio S-OFF and ENG S-OFF to do so. This also applies if you wish you flash other custom ROMs.
No worries about learning. Take your time. I took some time to actually understand things here. Lol.
Cheers.

superstick1 said:
You have to temproot and then again permroot it. Then only your Superuser can actually work on and off.
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Thats just it, VISIONary will not temproot and there fore I cannot permroot...VISIONary seems to do nothing after I hit the "temproot now" button. It goes to the screen that says "rooting device..." and just stays there. What do i need to do to fix this? After this I can do the Radio S-OFF and ENG S-OFF...but cannot get to that stage. That is why I am asking about reflashing.

Arhd 3.3 should be rooted out of thr box. No need to root it with visionary.
Tapatalked with Tapatalk from my Desire HD using Tapatalk.

You should really get more familiar with how flashing stuff on android works so you don't do any mistakes and brick your DHD. If you would just have read the OP in ARHD 3.3 thread, you would've known it's already rooted.

Just to clear this thing.. Temproot and permroot are things that apply only to the current ROM. You did them already in stock ROM to be able to get a custom ROM. Do NOT use Visionary with custom ROMs, those are already rooted.
Just go ahead and flash the radio. Your phone is as rooted as it is possible.

jkoljo said:
Just to clear this thing.. Temproot and permroot are things that apply only to the current ROM. You did them already in stock ROM to be able to get a custom ROM. Do NOT use Visionary with custom ROMs, those are already rooted.
Just go ahead and flash the radio. Your phone is as rooted as it is possible.
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I was going to say I have downloaded "Root Checker" from the android market and it says my phone is properly rooted....with busy box installed.
jkoljo, what should I do about my radio problem? Reflash android revolution HD 3.3 and then try the radio flash? or go some other route?

You can just follow leith51's guide, no need to reflash the ROM or anything.

jkoljo said:
You can just follow leith51's guide, no need to reflash the ROM or anything.
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That is why I was asking about reflashing the Rom. In order to flash the radio, I need to Radio S-OFF which uses VISIONary to do a Temp root. When I go to do this Temp root, VISIONary seemingly does nothing, it just freezes on the page that says "rooting device, please wait...."
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

If you have a custom rom it's already rooted, no need to use visionary.
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Hawks556 said:
If you have a custom rom it's already rooted, no need to use visionary.
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So your saying I do NOT need to do a Radio S-OFF to flash the radio as well?

bleagues said:
So your saying I do NOT need to do a Radio S-OFF to flash the radio as well?
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I'm saying that you need to read up a little, rooting and flashing isn't for the average user. You need to know what you're doing.
Visionary is a rooting tool and as you have a custom rom (ARHD) you do not need to root it once more. Check the "About Android Revolution HD" box in the thread, root is listed there.
And if you have already done s-off earlier, it will not all of a sudden revert to s-on again if you haven't done it?

Which method should I use to root?

I wnt to use unrevoked forever. It has been a very long time since I rooted, and forgot which guide I used, but I know I used unrevoked forever. Now there are many guides on this site, I jsut want to know which one is best/will work and give me s-off as well.
Info:
Android version: 2.2
HW: 0004
HBOOT: 2.10.0001
Software number: 3.26.651.6
Is any other info needed to know which to use?
Thanks for the help.

Can someone please reply to this?

I believe unrevoked will work for you. Take a look at the wiki page to see.

So can you link me to one of the guides on the site? I have seen three so far.
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So just download unrevoked 3, and run the exe. Then, in recovery, flash unrevoked forever, correct?

DRatJr said:
So can you link me to one of the guides on the site? I have seen three so far.
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So just download unrevoked 3, and run the exe. Then, in recovery, flash unrevoked forever, correct?
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Unrevoked 3 includes Forever, so you don't have to flash separately. Just install the modified hboot drivers if you're on Windows, put the phone in usb debugging and connect as charge only, then run unrevoked. There are videos on YouTube if you think that'll help you out.
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plainjane said:
Unrevoked 3 includes Forever, so you don't have to flash separately. Just install the modified hboot drivers if you're on Windows, put the phone in usb debugging and connect as charge only, then run unrevoked. There are videos on YouTube if you think that'll help you out.
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Make sure to have installed then uninstall HTC sync at some point, and you'll be good to go.
Also the solar battery is still going to happen, though on hold because my schedule is pretty like throw up.

So unrevoked three includes unrevoked forever now? If so then what is the point of unrevoked forever?

DRatJr said:
So unrevoked three includes unrevoked forever now? If so then what is the point of unrevoked forever?
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It was used to give you nand unlock in older versions of unrevoked; though as stated, it was incorporated into unrevoked.

Ok so I am pretty sure I have the modified drivers from the last time I rooted. So I can just DL unrevoked 3 and run the exe and I will be rooted?

DRatJr said:
Ok so I am pretty sure I have the modified drivers from the last time I rooted. So I can just DL unrevoked 3 and run the exe and I will be rooted?
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My friend instead of driving yourself crazy worrying about stuff why don't you just start from scratch and follow of the the directions on the page in order to root your phone. Don't assume you did anything prior and just do it all from the beginning. Honestly its a 5-6 minute process at best and you will achieve what you are looking for... Plug your phone in and go for it.. really is a painless root
Unrevoked.com

Ok I wll just start and try unrevokd 3. I don't need forever, correct?

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Ok I wll just start and try unrevokd 3. I don't need forever, correct?
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Forever was a separate tool so yes just run unrevoked3 since forever is part of it. Root in 5 minutes

Rooted.
I can install Amon RA recovery right over CWM right? Because the root method gives you CWM by default

Gaining S-off (Unlocking NAND) and Rooting are 2 Different Things,
If You are on the not so new Android 2.3.3 Gingerbread with the new HBOOT you will have to use Revolutionary to gain S-Off, while they say there is no way to reverse this some people have had luck re flashing the 2.15.001 or 2.16.001 HBOOT by way of a PC36IMG file on the sd card,
to root you have to get Superuser or get a Rooted Rom

RevolutionaryPC said:
Gaining S-off (Unlocking NAND) and Rooting are 2 Different Things,
If You are on the not so new Android 2.3.3 Gingerbread with the new HBOOT you will have to use Revolutionary to gain S-Off, while they say there is no way to reverse this some people have had luck re flashing the 2.15.001 or 2.16.001 HBOOT by way of a PC36IMG file on the sd card,
to root you have to get Superuser or get a Rooted Rom
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I obtained root. And that post really made no sense to me..

DRatJr said:
I obtained root. And that post really made no sense to me..
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hahaha my friend you are ok.. hit the development section and read up on everything... You can do what you want now. change recovery change roms change kernels change radios... just make sure you read and read and then read some more...
Enjoy - no need to ask us anything else its all out there for you... Congrats and welcome

You realize I was rooted for a LONG time I just forgot which method I used lol. I used a very long complicated method. It was before the unrevoked was compatible for my setup.. lol

Eh I guess things are different than what I learned... Revolutionary and unrevoked gain S-off (or atleast that's the impression I was given) and "SU" granted root. Please correct me if I'm wrong
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Unroot Evo 4G with hboot 2.18 and s-on

Hi everyone, ive been tryin to find a way to unroot my evo so i can take it into sprint. Im currently running MIUI 2.7.6, hboot version 2.18, unlocked. Would really like to put everything back to normal or as close to it as possible. Any help would be great!
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younginferlife said:
Hi everyone, ive been tryin to find a way to unroot my evo so i can take it into sprint. Im currently running MIUI 2.7.6, hboot version 2.18, unlocked. Would really like to put everything back to normal or as close to it as possible. Any help would be great!
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http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all...gerbread-2-3-5-dummies-guide.html#post3847623
See the "Unrooting" section.

I was just looking at that method but was unsure if it woild work. I forgot to mention in the beginning of this, that i have tried to use 3 different pc36img files and everytime it said error, main is newer or somethimg like that. But thanks, i will give that method a shot right now and let ya kno how it goes
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younginferlife said:
I was just looking at that method but was unsure if it woild work. I forgot to mention in the beginning of this, that i have tried to use 3 different pc36img files and everytime it said error, main is newer or somethimg like that. But thanks, i will give that method a shot right now and let ya kno how it goes
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Well the first thing you have to do in the unrooting procedure is downgrade the misc partition so you don't get that message . It's all outlined there nicely, and if you have any questions, it might be easier for you to post over there - they're all very helpful .

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Well the first thing you have to do in the unrooting procedure is downgrade the misc partition so you don't get that message . It's all outlined there nicely, and if you have any questions, it might be easier for you to post over there - they're all very helpful .
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Thanks again for the help. Everything went good with achieving the "locked oow" but the only problem im presenting is being able to flash the pc36img file due to the fact that i have to press up in order to update. My volume up button is broken (second time with in a month) which is why im taking my phone into sprint. Im downloading and RUU from rootzwiki to see if im able to flash back to the stock unrooted rom from there or by recovery. Thanks again.

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Thanks again for the help. Everything went good with achieving the "locked oow" but the only problem im presenting is being able to flash the pc36img file due to the fact that i have to press up in order to update. My volume up button is broken (second time with in a month) which is why im taking my phone into sprint. Im downloading and RUU from rootzwiki to see if im able to flash back to the stock unrooted rom from there or by recovery. Thanks again.
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If you do an "adb reboot bootloader", and then run the RUU from your PC, you shouldn't have to press any buttons on the device.

Captain_Throwback said:
If you do an "adb reboot bootloader", and then run the RUU from your PC, you shouldn't have to press any buttons on the device.
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call me a pain or even a noob (cause i am), but i have been trying to run the ruu from pc but seem to be having issues. would you mind posting the proper commands to run?:good::silly:

younginferlife said:
call me a pain or even a noob (cause i am), but i have been trying to run the ruu from pc but seem to be having issues. would you mind posting the proper commands to run?:good::silly:
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There are no commands to run an RUU from the PC - you just double-click it.

Thats where my problem was, the "RUU" I downloaded from the first thread you mentioned was in .zip format not .exe but all is good now, fully unrooted and back to original crappy malfunctioning 2.3.5 :thumbdown: thanks again for your help and puttin up with my noobness :thumbup:
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hey guys i had to unroot my evo with the unrooting method mentioned above, but i messed up and flashed the s-on and flashed an RUU b4 downgrading the misc partition. The phone also installed the 5.07 OTA with the stock recovery. The phone says it has "s-on" but the hboot is 6.17 and i cannot get it to update back to 2.18, everytime i try to RUU again, i get a error 140 saying bootloader version error. I tried to root again using revolutionary and i get told that the s is already off and get asked to install a custom recovery and that fails every time. i tried to install amon ra via pc36img method in bootloader and it does nothing. i tried using unrevoked since my phone says its hboot 2.16 and unrevoked fails and says my firmware is too new. I tried using htc dev to achieve root again and the cmd gives me an error every time i try to get the code from my phone. i made a booboo and i cant root nor update and i gotta return my phone to sprint since i upgraded my phone to a diff phone. Any ideas guys?

Synergies14 said:
hey guys i had to unroot my evo with the unrooting method mentioned above, but i messed up and flashed the s-on and flashed an RUU b4 downgrading the misc partition. The phone also installed the 5.07 OTA with the stock recovery. The phone says it has "s-on" but the hboot is 6.17 and i cannot get it to update back to 2.18, everytime i try to RUU again, i get a error 140 saying bootloader version error. I tried to root again using revolutionary and i get told that the s is already off and get asked to install a custom recovery and that fails every time. i tried to install amon ra via pc36img method in bootloader and it does nothing. i tried using unrevoked since my phone says its hboot 2.16 and unrevoked fails and says my firmware is too new. I tried using htc dev to achieve root again and the cmd gives me an error every time i try to get the code from my phone. i made a booboo and i cant root nor update and i gotta return my phone to sprint since i upgraded my phone to a diff phone. Any ideas guys?
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WHAT?? I'm lost. First you said your Hboot is 6.17, then you said your phone says it has Hboot 2.16.
Sounds like your misc partition is screwed up from the different Hboots that your phone had, especially from the 5.07 OTA. If that's the case, there is no current RUU that will work for that (the 5.07 misc). It's there to prevent you from downgrading. You will need the Tacoroot method in order to downgrade your misc partition so that you can run your RUU again. It will give you a temp root so that you can run adb commands to downgrade that misc partition. It's in the rooting method guide from Captain Throwback's link above.

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WHAT?? I'm lost. First you said your Hboot is 6.17, then you said your phone says it has Hboot 2.16.
Sounds like your misc partition is screwed up from the different Hboots that your phone had, especially from the 5.07 OTA. If that's the case, there is no current RUU that will work for that (the 5.07 misc). It's there to prevent you from downgrading. You will need the Tacoroot method in order to downgrade your misc partition so that you can run your RUU again. It will give you a temp root so that you can run adb commands to downgrade that misc partition. It's in the rooting method guide from Captain Throwback's link above.
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My apologies, i was in a rush earlier. My hboot is 6.17, not 2.16. I tried unrooting and did for the most part except getting hboot back to 2.18. In this process, the phone forced itself to update to the new 5.07 OTA that there is no RUU for so im screwed to that end. I am currently trying Tacoroot method but am having issues being stuck at the sprint screen bootloop so i cant run the flash_image command from the sdcard (since the phone isnt starting fully for it to be in "charge only mode"). Seems alot of ppl have that same issue but havent found a solution yet. Not sure if i just start over if it bootloops or not. I've tried 3 complete times now and still get stuck on the bootloop.

Ouch, that sucks. If you cannot boot into the operating system, then there might not be anything that you can do.

shortydoggg said:
Ouch, that sucks. If you cannot boot into the operating system, then there might not be anything that you can do.
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i can boot into the phone, its just when doing the tacoroot method, i cannot get past the step where the phone goes into the loop and you have to enter 3 commands.

Synergies14 said:
i can boot into the phone, its just when doing the tacoroot method, i cannot get past the step where the phone goes into the loop and you have to enter 3 commands.
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The looping doesn't matter - you should still have adb access, unless you didn't follow the instructions exactly.

2 steps.. rooted/s-off to perfect stock sprint evo 4g unrooted/s-on
younginferlife said:
Hi everyone, ive been tryin to find a way to unroot my evo so i can take it into sprint. Im currently running MIUI 2.7.6, hboot version 2.18, unlocked. Would really like to put everything back to normal or as close to it as possible. Any help would be great!
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i just stumbled over this method.. unrevoked web site has a s-on tool, go to there site ://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever you will see the blah blah blah tutorial.. scroll down until you get down to:
How can this be removed or undone if I need to take my phone in for service?
Download the latest ''S-ON'' tool to a temporary location and follow the installation instructions above to run it. Once your phone is S-ON, you may lose root permanently if you install an official update.. download it to your phone.. recovery mode.. flash from zip.. poof.. S-ON
now head over to htcevohacks, ://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-hacks/how-to-unroot-your-htc-evo-4g/ get htc update rom utility for your phone.. that erases entire phone and and places sprints latest stock factory rom and everything back on your phone.. do all sprint updates.. and return to sprint and recieve your refurbished motorola photon.. sprint htc evo 4g has been dissed-continued.. oh yeah if you dont do it in that order.. you will loose your root with update utility.. which means you will have to use unrevoked3 to reroot and flash s-on tool .. done the right way its only two steps.. peace out