Develop Bugs

After 2 days of owning a defy ... my thoughts and a n00bs guide

I only got the phone 2 days ago, coming from a Nokia 5800 (which I loved), its worlds apart and a very worthy upgrade. I'm totally new to Android and everything about it, but I'm fairly sure I've digested enough information over the past 2 days to set my phone up properly.
So for any other n00bs, this is some of the info I've setup on mine.
Rooting
This is a must, the z4root (1.3 version) app will take care of your permanent rooting needs. Be sure to leave the "USB Debugging mode" on for ever.
Blur
Love it, keep it, I don't think there's any performance hit with it running. But if you don't like it, don't go to the lengths of removing all the apk's manually - just don't register/sign-up when the phone is very first turned on (or if the phone is set-up, then you can backup with TB and factory reset the data, but don't set-up Blur).
Overclocking and undervolting (ie. Battery!)
800MHz doesn't *quite* cut it, the phone is a little laggy and unresponsive. The app to get first is SetVSEL (on Android market), I've got mine setup and stable with:
300MHz / 26
600MHz / 34
1100MHz / 58
And a priority of 60%. Then enable the setting to limit to VSEL1 when the screen is off. A priority any higher than 60% makes the phone really lag when trying to turn the screen back on/answer calls etc. from an idle state.
This took the phone immediately from a 5hr maximum battery life on idle to over 13 hours (still not impressive, but miles better!).
Then upgrade the ROM to the JIT enabled version http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893291
Backing Up
Titanium backup pro - worth it, get scheduled backups set up and sign up for a free dropbox account (link - http db.tt/fxOD4Zf) for online backup storage.
Must buy/install apps
1 VPN (VPN password saving/connect tool)
AdFree (Ad-blocker)
Angry Birds (Game)
Astro (File manager)
Barcode Scanner
ConnectBot (SSH client)
DropBox (Online storage) link - http db.tt/fxOD4Zf
Google Earth
Facebook
Google Goggles
Last.fm (Music streaming)
Layar (Augmented reality app)
PocketCloud (MSTSC/RDP client)
Quadrant (Benchmarking tool)
ROM Manager
SetCPU (although not neccessary with SetVSEL, but it does offer a little more fine-tuning)
ShopSavvy (Barcode scanner / price comparison tool)
Skype
Sports Tracker
Spotify
Stability Tester (Good for making sure VSEL voltages are stable)
System Monitor (Fairly basic overview of system status)
System Recovery (not available on Android Market) LINK http goo.gl/SSMpE
Titanium Backup Pro
Twitter
Vehicle Light
Voice Caller ID
Voice Recorder
z4root - LINK http goo.gl/CuRgz
Impoving battery
Disable live wallpaper
Disable smart screen brightness and manually reduce
Lower CPU voltage
Set low CPU speed when screen is off
Enable data saving
Disable GPS when not in use
Handy links
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893291
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853674

Thank you for the guide, especially the setvsel freqs.

5 hour battery life on idle... that's why people don't like Blur!
I don't use any Blur widgets at all - although I have't removed them - and on the stock ROM will easily get 2 days battery life on idle, hell I can get 2 days with moderate usage!

milesg said:
5 hour battery life on idle... that's why people don't like Blur!
I don't use any Blur widgets at all - although I have't removed them - and on the stock ROM will easily get 2 days battery life on idle, hell I can get 2 days with moderate usage!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agree!
If you are coming from U.S. t-mobile, there is no way you can bypass Blur, other than flash to "foreign firmware".
Once you registered and use Blur, you got bunch of useless app running on the background, news/weather/social and etc that can NOT be stopped, unless you root and remove them. ( it seems to be constantly u/d link your status to the world, I rather have my own privatcy control )
Blur Contact also another quick way to confuse the crap out of my contact and produce annoying double list.
Plus, unless you are on Froyo, you don't get to disable "Data Enabled" under Data Delivery. ( yes, you can install APNdroi or similar app to stop Data access when not in used, but it will just be another program running on the background )
Anyway, I really appreciate all these genius in the forum who creats so many different custom ROM and firmware for me to "upgrade".

I don't think it is possible to skip the blur account setup.
Other then that I am not convinced that any deep customization is necessary to make the DEFY a great phone.
I rooted the phone to rename/remove some unnecessary apps (e.g. amazonmp3). but after the earpiece problem I got my phone back with the original firmware restored. because I was lazy I didn't bother rooting and renaming/deleting. just installed launcher pro and advanced task killer. result: same performance improvements as with the rooted one before!
I just run a quadrant benchmark: 1073 points!
note that my defy is not really de-blured. I just installed launcher pro to stop that terrible blur launcher. even my task killer settings are conservative.
battery life is also not that bad: weekdays it is just a bit over a day (~30h). weekends depending on what I do. this weekend I am sitting home and still have 40% battery after having it disconnected from charger on friday morning.
bottom line: rooting is recommended to do some maintenance stuff (backups, firewall, etc.). using an alternative launcher is a MUST (launcher pro works best for me, but there are others too). however, renaming or deleting apps is not a good idea because of the heavy system integration of blur crap motorola did.

blessani said:
This took the phone immediately from a 5hr maximum battery life on idle to over 13 hours (still not impressive, but miles better!).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hey just a tip, install recovery, or, as your phone is just very young.
connect it to a power plug everytime when charging (not pc-usb, real power supply) and let i load as long as possible (3-4 hours max is enough) try to repeat this process 3-6 times and you'll get the maximum battery life.
works great! :=)
i resetted my battery stats once after a rom upgrade and the battery lasted for about as u said, 3-5 hours... i thought that i had destroyed my phone or similar, but after these complete charges, everything worked as it should again
would suggest it for any power driven device

My handset has the custom Defy recovery installed already (first thing) as per http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893291
Its only charged off mains power, but to be honest, I've only had it 3 days now, and I've been using it so much in the past day tweaking it, that I haven't had a chance to see what I'll get our of it.
Those talking about de-bluring, theres a really easy non-root method to do it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943134

You don't realyl need to OverClock unléess you're playing a game on PSX4DROID...
i use 1200 mhz @ 58 and it's quite stable tbh. Haven't done much testing but the temp stays at 42°c
I'm actually concerned about the temperature of CPU...how high can it go until cou is likely to get effected?

I am a noob too. I came from spica, so i used android before and flashed some roms, but i only playing for the Defy for a day and i have some question. I bought one with 2.21 DE with blur, the phone was fast but the unlock slider lagged like hell, and after a call, the call summary was displayed for at least 10-15 seconds.
I flashed a 2.51 CE firmware on the device and it is generally much faster, but the call summary is still locking the phone for too long time(I rooted the phone overclocked, factory reseted done everything, but nothing helps, somtimes it is better after restart). Does anyone knows why?
Another thing, i know that 2.51 is undowngradeable.I read that i cannot flash most of the cooked ROMS and the chineese and beta froyo ROMs, but th phone is fast, and i got enough of cooked and alfa, beta ROMs during my spica period, and no way i want to go back to 2.21 so that is not a problem, but when the official UK or CE Froyo comes out, i will be able flash the sbf with RSD lite or I am locked to that firmware forever? And if someone updated the Defy to 2.51 with OTA, not RSD lite made the Defy undowngradeble?
Sorry for the lot of talk and thank you for your answers in advance

Just a note if you update to the new Blur you won't be able to use z4root. You need Super1Click (ver 2.51). Here is a post on it from Moto. https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/44255?start=0&tstart=0 And here is another from XDA. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11151470#post11151470

Thank you for your tips.
I came from 5800 either
Sent from my MB525

[UT] X-RAY said:
I don't think it is possible to skip the blur account setup.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Press the Menu button (the hardware button with the 4 squares) and a menu pops up with "Skip Setup" listed. ^^

very good info, will try Titanium Backup Pro

You can use the phone without being logged into Blur. Shut the phone off and then go to myblur.com and change your password. Follow the directions and when done turn the phone back on and you will get an error that either the user ID or PW is wrong. All the other functions will work. For me the phone seemed real laggy running like this as it was trying to call home all the time.
no clue said:
Agree!
If you are coming from U.S. t-mobile, there is no way you can bypass Blur, other than flash to "foreign firmware".
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

5hr maximum battery life on idle?

ABC_Universal said:
5hr maximum battery life on idle?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah there is something wrong then if that is happening. I use a Defy and a DHD, and days I only use the DHD, and let my Defy just sit there, it can go three days before it even gets to 80%.

3 days before it gets to 80% ....yeah right
my defy eats 5-10% per 6hours in idle ... and thats at 300/16vsel setting, stock 2.1 rom, and skipped blur setup
and with moderate use ...i get around 48hours out of it
so how could yours be at 80% after 3days being idle is beyond me ...what rom are u using & what idle settings?

Mine only uses 4% battery when idle for 8 hours over night with the alarm clock programmed to go off so i guess that would be around 12% / 24 hours if left in standby / idle.
Running stock 2.1 but overclocked and undervolted with setvsel.
300 / 20
700 / 32
1100 / 56
75% threshold.
I also use droidwall to enable only what i want to access wifi or data but not sure if that would help when the phone is idle.

I use
300/16
600/36
1000/56
80%threshold
droidwall wouldnt help me since i dont have 3g connection set up and i only turn wifi on when i need it ...
does your 2.1 rom come with motoblur or without?
I wish my defy would eat only 4% per 8hours =/

Hi,
Yes mine has Blur installed & I normally only have the weather programme running.

lag on motorola defy!

my defy is just 2 weeks old and i have started experiencing trememdous lags....
its 2.2.2 running , kernel is 2.6.32.9-g0671d13 , just in case it could help in finding a solution...
1. the screen goes off on its own half of the time (even though the time out is of 1 minute) and even when i unlock it , it again goes off.. ITS REALLY FRUSTRATING
2. i have just 1 game installed, but even then the phone lags a lot, the game lags and so does the entire phone..!
3. the internet isnt getting activated (i guess thats a network problem though), anyone with a similar problem!?
please post replies as soon as possible..

well i too experience the same, mine is 30 days old...
I have disabled gps/data/wifi/auto brightness to get max battery yet it fails to go beyond 1 day even if i use max an hour of wifi.
screen going blank on it own is frustrating
moto widget for time and date does not keep current time
lag in touch even after running ATK on auto aggressive mode
defy is running indian 2.2.2
p.s. any idea if i can get data on first date of use for battery? I somehow feel a new one should give more standby life.

my phone does last around 1 1/2 days with an hours gaming....and it does keep the current date and time (as of now)...
mine too lags inspite of the ATK being on autokill.... even the homescreen takes time to load after pressing the home button ...

Might want to try getting rid of ATK.
Tasks/services run for a reason on android. When something kills them, they'll start back up, causing more cpu and memory usage than if you'd just leave the service running.

Run for a reason, but not necessarily a good one. Stock motorola/vodafone firmware that I had on my defy would run many completely irrelevant processes - VF360, newsandweather, amazon mp3, etc. Task killing isn't the solution because they just start up again.
The best way to get best performance from the phone is to install CM7.

You could try to wipe in stock recovery. Check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982, point witch says Froyo laggy. You will lose all data.
If you find it laggy afterwards, you will never be happy with the preferments on stock froyo. Then try CM7. You will be able to downgrade to send it to warranty as I also did this. It is quite a difference.

shreymehta said:
1. the screen goes off on its own half of the time (even though the time out is of 1 minute) and even when i unlock it , it again goes off.. ITS REALLY FRUSTRATING
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is it going off while you are holding it by the top, with a finger on the left of the speaker hole?
If it is the case, it is because you are masking the proximity sensor. And if you have the "Pocket detection" feature activated, it will cause this annoying stuff...

Well not to worry even mine was laggy before, i had just installed 2-3 apps. I had to restart my phone at least once then i installed cm7 rc1.5 Now its very fast and i dont remember the last time when my phone was lagging and freezing.
I guess it has something to do with the froyo and motoblur on defy that makes it laggy.
You have to have get rid of stock froyo after owning a defy.. thats the truth..

I did a readup on the ATK stuff and the excerpt from the and dev documents... well since the read i have uninstalled all task killers... (kept one just in case with all auto actions disabled)
I do hope the lag issue is resolved after moving to CM7/Jboogie3 etc
however the battery issue is a major hurdle for now as one day is too less, i probably have to take it to the service center for a checkup and/or claim warranty on battery. till them no flashing for me...
att: patriiice - even when the proximity sensor is not covered, i do experience screen blanks, almost immediately asa the power button is pressed to wake the device.

The lag presented on the Defys running Froyo is a "super nice feature" by Motorola it has an easy fix tho.
Its caused by the VM consuming all memory, all its needed is adjusting the amount of MB the VM should leave free.
There are a few ways to it:
1) Run a terminal emulator, or use GScript Lite to run this:
su
vm.min_free_kbytes=8192
(Not permanent, need to be ran every time you reboot)
2) Get Sysctl from market and do it from there.
3) Get SetVSel and do it from there.

Lag
I have that problem to. The bad thing is that i can`t answer call during the lag, it says i have my phone is closed or i don`t have signal. I`ve installed Temp+CPU and during lag it shows that the proc is running at 100%. Memory has all the time, around 130 min and 230 max. Closed all programs one by one, no change. I restart the phone and everything is running smooth and it lasts max 1 day. i have stock rom 2.2.2. (please excuse my spelling)

mmariann2001 said:
I have that problem to. The bad thing is that i can`t answer call during the lag, it says i have my phone is closed or i don`t have signal. I`ve installed Temp+CPU and during lag it shows that the proc is running at 100%. Memory has all the time, around 130 min and 230 max. Closed all programs one by one, no change. I restart the phone and everything is running smooth and it lasts max 1 day. i have stock rom 2.2.2. (please excuse my spelling)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I also use 2.2.2 stock and my defy runs without lag... you should consider to root the phone and freeze some unnecessary stock-preinstalled apps like Kindle, Voice command, etc... the ones you will never use. I freezed about 20 apps and there is no lag at all. (I even froze Maps, Streets, SIM toolkit, and some others)

Zephyrot said:
The lag presented on the Defys running Froyo is a "super nice feature" by Motorola it has an easy fix tho.
Its caused by the VM consuming all memory, all its needed is adjusting the amount of MB the VM should leave free.
There are a few ways to it:
1) Run a terminal emulator, or use GScript Lite to run this:
su
vm.min_free_kbytes=8192
(Not permanent, need to be ran every time you reboot)
2) Get Sysctl from market and do it from there.
3) Get SetVSel and do it from there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My Defy was lagging until I rooted and installed SetVSel. Now its running as breeze with Stock Indian Froyo.

stock froyo is not good but it shouldn't be that bad. there were some faulty battery issue that i have heard of before too. but in your case your defy might even be faulty. so i would suggest you get it replaced or fixed under warranty first before flashing any custom rom.

lag on defy
with rootunistaller i`ve frozen skype and yahoo and i haven`t had any lag since. If i want 2 use them "defrost" and when i`m finished i just "freeze" back the app

mmariann2001 said:
with rootunistaller i`ve frozen skype and yahoo and i haven`t had any lag since. If i want 2 use them "defrost" and when i`m finished i just "freeze" back the app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Easy as that...

Lag on defy
Nope. I was wrong after 3 days of normal proc usage it started again. I`ve installed OS Monitor (free on market) and there was a process the ate all my resources: "DRM Protected Content Storage". Selected watch log and there was something like "enter,delete update, uri: content://media/external/audio/media/1 ../44.... /254..."
This process is searching ur phone for media, video audio and looked like it was stucked at this folder. I`ve searched the phone for that folder but couldn't find it so i just killed the app in OS Monitor. After the process restarted at log was showing "media search finished:182 audio files found and 1 video found". Looks like that's my problem and maybe yours to. Cheers mates

so I might visit the service center this weekend to have my battery life checked.. one day life with all wifi/data/gps disabled and below average voice calls is not acceptable at all.

what is stock recovery?? and will it void my warranty???

thanks a lot guys for ur replies!!
but the thing is my phone has become even slower!!
when i first switch on the phone i have around 240MB free RAM but just after an hour everything becomes too slow, even opening of the menu! and after 2-3 hours of usage it keeps on reducing and finally reaches as low as 40MB .....
what could be causing this??
i have android assistant by which i clear cache, ram still it doesnt help....

[Discussion] Unstable Desires with OS freezes

Hi,
i want to start a discussion with those of you who have such unstable Desires.
I am one of the sad guys having one of them. It seems that there are a few Desires which do not run like all the others.
A typical thing with this Desires are complete freezes of Android. Very often they happen when the screen is off, the phone is idle and recieve a SMS or a Phone call. The phone freezes imediately and you are never informed of the SMS or Call. It is just lost. You just detect that you can not power on your phone and must remove the battery to get it back to life.
I have this starnge freezes with every ROM. Most people do not believe you because they do not have the problems.
I have tried several things till now.
- A new SD Card
- Several ROMS
- Allways full wipe
- Allways format SD card with gparted
- Allways start from scratch without backup of Apps
- Different Kernels
- Delvik internal
- uvm...
But all of this things did not help! It seemed that only i have the Problem and i was thinking its a hardware defekt.
I was searching for a new Android device as i again installed a new ROM and read from someone with the same problems. I also read about the UV capabilities of Deamon Controller.
So i give this a try.
I now have installed AIO 3.0.4 on CM7r2 with x2sd with latest radio and one Ext4 partition. First of all i went to deamon controller and put up the voltages a little bit. And since i have done this my freezes nearly are gone.
I now played around with the settings and it turns out that you must find the right values. To much voltage is not good and to less is also not good.
It seems that there are some CPU's in some desires which are not very stable and do not like the OC / UV.
It would be very nice to know about your expirience with unstable Desires and what you have done to fix this. Perhaps we can also find good values for UV.
Or we can find a mix of things to make this Desires also stable.
Regards
Kai

It's a known issue that too much undervolting or overclocking leads to CPU freezes, or kernel panic and then restarts. That different boards have different thresholds of these is also known. That's why we usually built locks for CPU freq and voltages while booting up, and then the user is responsible for experimenting with different freq/volt values and finally arriving at an optimium range for his CPU.

Hi,
thanks for the reply.
Do you know what are the default settings in a standard rom? Is there a CPU freq and voltage change or is the standard 998 and 1275 mv?
My problem is that standard settings, tables from custom roms did not work for my desire. It is really very unstable wiith this settings and i am hoping to find other Desire users having the same problem to find a good solution.
Thanks again for the help.

Yes, 998 Mhz is the standard freq at which freq is usually locked/

Thanks again, so using 998 with 1275 schould be the normal mode every desire is supposed to work with?

I am happy
Thanks to all of you who helped me with my problems.
Finnally after one year of Problems it seems i have a solution for my unstable desire.
After 2 Days of intensive testing i want to share my experience with you.
Seems my Problem was solved by setting own UV(undervolt) values.
It works great for me, other CPU can need other values, you must play around with it. But you can also try to use my settings.
I can say the phone is now rock solid. I could not believe that it was such a little thing. I even managed now to overclock it to 1190 without freezes.
As i said i had issues with every image and tried alot with new SD cards, other kernels, setting CPU speed ... Nothing helped. I had total OS freezes 3 - 15 times a day.
But now with the new UV settings in Deamon controller i get it really stable!
I want to explain you exactly my set up.
But i strong believe it was the UV / OC settings which do the stabilisation!
My set up:
Alpharev cm7r2 (S-Off)
4 ext Recovery
16 GB Samsung Sd Card Class 10
Fat32 + 1024MB Ext4 for x2sd
Runnymed AIO 3.0.4
X2SD Script
Deamon Controller with andrev_oc and custom UV settings entered in Deamon Controller.
Things i have applied:
RunnyMede_NO_Xloud.zip (speakers are too load for me in original)
No_TPWakeUp-Runny.zip (I do not want to wake up the phone with TP)
50+ APP's
Batterylife is not too bad i think. This is a screen shot of a medium to haevy using day.
Now here are the screens on UV and OC (and battery life):

kai-t said:
Thanks to all of you who helped me with my problems.
Finnally after one year of Problems it seems i have a solution for my unstable desire.
After 2 Days of intensive testing i want to share my experience with you.
Seems my Problem was solved by setting own UV(undervolt) values.
It works great for me, other CPU can need other values, you must play around with it. But you can also try to use my settings.
I can say the phone is now rock solid. I could not believe that it was such a little thing. I even managed now to overclock it to 1190 without freezes.
As i said i had issues with every image and tried alot with new SD cards, other kernels, setting CPU speed ... Nothing helped. I had total OS freezes 3 - 15 times a day.
But now with the new UV settings in Deamon controller i get it really stable!
I want to explain you exactly my set up.
But i strong believe it was the UV / OC settings which do the stabilisation!
My set up:
Alpharev cm7r2 (S-Off)
4 ext Recovery
16 GB Samsung Sd Card Class 10
Fat32 + 1024MB Ext4 for x2sd
Runnymed AIO 3.0.4
X2SD Script
Deamon Controller with andrev_oc and custom UV settings entered in Deamon Controller.
Things i have applied:
RunnyMede_NO_Xloud.zip (speakers are too load for me in original)
No_TPWakeUp-Runny.zip (I do not want to wake up the phone with TP)
50+ APP's
Batterylife is not too bad i think. This is a screen shot of a medium to haevy using day.
Now here are the screens on UV and OC (and battery life):
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hope this works with my setup. I have not applied wht you've listed. And I am on stock hboot, 4 GB class 4, Clockwork Mod recovery...
Will try it later in the day. Thanks!

Hi kartnite,
would be nice if you could share your experience with us if you have tried it.
Some more infos i have collected in onother thread, perhaps helpfull:
I have also used the SD Tools App.
Think i was wrong it's a samsung class 6 card:
6.1 MB write speed
27 MB read speed
My own thoughts to the comments about OC / UV:
Since the Display uses the most amount of the Battery it does not really matter to use some mv more or less. This is also prooven because the original images uses 1275 mv and 998 MHZ fix!
Some CPU's seems not to like undervolting. Some seems to have no problems with this.
For my CPU it is true that standard UV values make the phone freeze very often. Set the voltages up a little bit makes the CPU happy and my phone is stable
Also i think it is no danger, as long as you do not go over 1275 you are using the normal voltages.
About battery life i think it is important that your phone enters deep sleep mode when you turn the display off. You can check it with CPU Spy App.
My battereylife is good, at least more than 24 hours with normal usage.
My deamon settings are:
sleep min: 384
sleep max: 998
wake min: 284
wake max:1190 (here with 1350 mv)
I have set the 1190 since my phone is stable. The 1190 makes the ROM even more responsive if used.
Regards
Kai

Well, been a few hours now since I applied those settings.
Total of three force closes- Facebook, Mail and Sense.
Comparatively lesser than what it was earlier, but force closes nonetheless.
Yes, I did find that "improvement" in responsiveness but the lag returned.
I'm looking at other options, too.
Sorry for the delayed response. Wanted to wait a few hours before sharing what I observed.
Thanks for those additional points, mate. Will try them later in the day...
-
Swyped from XDA-Premium

kai-t said:
Hi kartnite,
would be nice if you could share your experience with us if you have tried it.
Some more infos i have collected in onother thread, perhaps helpfull:
I have also used the SD Tools App.
Think i was wrong it's a samsung class 6 card:
6.1 MB write speed
27 MB read speed
My own thoughts to the comments about OC / UV:
Since the Display uses the most amount of the Battery it does not really matter to use some mv more or less. This is also prooven because the original images uses 1275 mv and 998 MHZ fix!
Some CPU's seems not to like undervolting. Some seems to have no problems with this.
For my CPU it is true that standard UV values make the phone freeze very often. Set the voltages up a little bit makes the CPU happy and my phone is stable
Also i think it is no danger, as long as you do not go over 1275 you are using the normal voltages.
About battery life i think it is important that your phone enters deep sleep mode when you turn the display off. You can check it with CPU Spy App.
My battereylife is good, at least more than 24 hours with normal usage.
My deamon settings are:
sleep min: 384
sleep max: 998
wake min: 284
wake max:1190 (here with 1350 mv)
I have set the 1190 since my phone is stable. The 1190 makes the ROM even more responsive if used.
Regards
Kai
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks Kai,
finally i found someone with the same problem,
firstly i even try to use another kernel just like gingerbread 0.9 or 0.8.
I forgot the low-voltage influence(just like OC in Computer),
thank for your sharing~

Hi all,
sorry, but i have bad news.
The UV settings seemed to help a couple of days, but than my desire begin to freeze again.
It all started with a forced close of Whatsapp. After that many force closes returned and my desire also beginn to stuck.
I tried to repair the Filesystem with gparted. But it made it even worse.
I tried the whole Weekend, and even with only 998 and no UV the Problems kept.
Seems that somehow the image gets corrupted, even Dalvik wipe, or reflashing did not help.
Now i again started from scratch.
I installed AIO 3.0.5 with complete wipe and new partitioned SD card.
This time i set up the ROM without inserted SIM Card. I have done this because things alsways stuck when SMS, Phone things happen.
I think the SIM can have influence on the ROM's stability. I do not know why.
But without SIM Card insert i could set up everything without Problems.
Installed Andrev_OC and let all settings and UV as they are. Setup Apps, Contacts, Facebook. Let the phone sync and set up. Started it a few times.
I runs stable. I made a backup.
After the Backup got this HTC Launcher error, restrted and it was ok.
Then i inserted the SIM card. Till now it works. But lets look if it gets unstable again.
If this try will not succeed i will buy a new HTC and will sell my Desire. This freezes sucks.
But as said today it worked perfect. With many SMS and phone calls withoud freeze. It is really a strange thing!!!
Hope i can tell good news in a couple of days!

kai-t said:
Hi all,
sorry, but i have bad news.
The UV settings seemed to help a couple of days, but than my desire begin to freeze again.
It all started with a forced close of Whatsapp. After that many force closes returned and my desire also beginn to stuck.
I tried to repair the Filesystem with gparted. But it made it even worse.
I tried the whole Weekend, and even with only 998 and no UV the Problems kept.
Seems that somehow the image gets corrupted, even Dalvik wipe, or reflashing did not help.
Now i again started from scratch.
I installed AIO 3.0.5 with complete wipe and new partitioned SD card.
This time i set up the ROM without inserted SIM Card. I have done this because things alsways stuck when SMS, Phone things happen.
I think the SIM can have influence on the ROM's stability. I do not know why.
But without SIM Card insert i could set up everything without Problems.
Installed Andrev_OC and let all settings and UV as they are. Setup Apps, Contacts, Facebook. Let the phone sync and set up. Started it a few times.
I runs stable. I made a backup.
After the Backup got this HTC Launcher error, restrted and it was ok.
Then i inserted the SIM card. Till now it works. But lets look if it gets unstable again.
If this try will not succeed i will buy a new HTC and will sell my Desire. This freezes sucks.
But as said today it worked perfect. With many SMS and phone calls withoud freeze. It is really a strange thing!!!
Hope i can tell good news in a couple of days!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hope you succeed in it.
I just replied you yesterday & set the UV setting before I slept last night.
And I have fully charge with battery in 100%.
But it still happened again, drained of battery to 30% and froze.
Also I have late for work without alarm clock.
I dont want to give up, but it is hard.

kai-t said:
Hi all,
sorry, but i have bad news.
The UV settings seemed to help a couple of days, but than my desire begin to freeze again.
It all started with a forced close of Whatsapp. After that many force closes returned and my desire also beginn to stuck.
I tried to repair the Filesystem with gparted. But it made it even worse.
I tried the whole Weekend, and even with only 998 and no UV the Problems kept.
Seems that somehow the image gets corrupted, even Dalvik wipe, or reflashing did not help.
Now i again started from scratch.
I installed AIO 3.0.5 with complete wipe and new partitioned SD card.
This time i set up the ROM without inserted SIM Card. I have done this because things alsways stuck when SMS, Phone things happen.
I think the SIM can have influence on the ROM's stability. I do not know why.
But without SIM Card insert i could set up everything without Problems.
Installed Andrev_OC and let all settings and UV as they are. Setup Apps, Contacts, Facebook. Let the phone sync and set up. Started it a few times.
I runs stable. I made a backup.
After the Backup got this HTC Launcher error, restrted and it was ok.
Then i inserted the SIM card. Till now it works. But lets look if it gets unstable again.
If this try will not succeed i will buy a new HTC and will sell my Desire. This freezes sucks.
But as said today it worked perfect. With many SMS and phone calls withoud freeze. It is really a strange thing!!!
Hope i can tell good news in a couple of days!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Changing UV din help me too.. So back on Samsung SD card (class 2) and it works fine.. I would suggest you to try with Samsung SD cards, cause they have better read speed.. I never has even i single with Samsung SD card but with Sandisk class 4 i had many freezes with same ROM and setup...

Thanks for the suggestiones,
i think that UV did not really help.
Yes i have a 16 GB Samsung card. I tried everything to get rid of this bug.
Now i am very supriesed, since the last setup yesterday the phone worked without freeze. But lets see sometimes things get worse after a few days.
I really do not understand what causes the trouble.
Setting it up without SIM Card seemed to help?
I am really confused. I always set up ROMS very correct. Means full wipe. Let boot , give time to stabilize... But mostly the ROMS crash before having set up all apps.
Without sim there was no problem. Now lets look how it goes on with this set up.
Before i have inserted the SIM again i pressed on the metal from the sim slot to make the sim fit better? Perhaps this helped? Anyone knows about problems with this causing ROMS to freeze?
If i think back my Problems started with a new SIM Card from O2 Germany.
I will report if it will start to freeze again or if it work.
Regards
Kai

kai-t said:
Thanks for the suggestiones,
i think that UV did not really help.
Yes i have a 16 GB Samsung card. I tried everything to get rid of this bug.
Now i am very supriesed, since the last setup yesterday the phone worked without freeze. But lets see sometimes things get worse after a few days.
I really do not understand what causes the trouble.
Setting it up without SIM Card seemed to help?
I am really confused. I always set up ROMS very correct. Means full wipe. Let boot , give time to stabilize... But mostly the ROMS crash before having set up all apps.
Without sim there was no problem. Now lets look how it goes on with this set up.
Before i have inserted the SIM again i pressed on the metal from the sim slot to make the sim fit better? Perhaps this helped? Anyone knows about problems with this causing ROMS to freeze?
If i think back my Problems started with a new SIM Card from O2 Germany.
I will report if it will start to freeze again or if it work.
Regards
Kai
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess for me it was more over SD card issue.. My be your case is different .. best of luck on new setup.. I will be buying new SD card soon

Hi,
wish you the best luck! I have a Samsung SD card.
Works since 2 days stable. One FC when installing Facebook and i had to reboot.
But no OS freezes or missed SMS / calls.
Let's see if it stays like that. Sorry tht the UV not helped, but perhaps try fitting the SIM card better (with tesa on the back or pressing on the mettal) and try to install ROM first without SIM.
Another tip for Battery drain. I recognized yesterday that i have battery drain and i could see that my phone only gets partitialy into Deep Sleep. I serached what it is and in the end i recognized that it was the Facebook app. Installed the update to the newest version and now my phone went into Deep Sleep.
If you are not sure use CPU Spy to check.
If your display is off your phone should be nearly 100% in Deep Sleep. In Deep Sleep my phone uses nearly no battery! Thats really great and gives a long standby time! So check that newest Facebook is installed!
Regards
Kai

I don't want to be the spoilsport, but I've got the same problem only with my Samsung 16gb class 6 card, not with my "older" Sandisk class 2. But this card is way too slow for sense 3.5.
I've tried the higher UV values, which solved the freezing problem for a few days. But only temporary.
I'm considering switching to an ASOP ROM, just to keep my phone running stable. It often crashes on incoming calls or during nighttime. I missed a lot of calls and alarms.

kai-t said:
Hi,
wish you the best luck! I have a Samsung SD card.
Works since 2 days stable. One FC when installing Facebook and i had to reboot.
But no OS freezes or missed SMS / calls.
Let's see if it stays like that. Sorry tht the UV not helped, but perhaps try fitting the SIM card better (with tesa on the back or pressing on the mettal) and try to install ROM first without SIM.
Another tip for Battery drain. I recognized yesterday that i have battery drain and i could see that my phone only gets partitialy into Deep Sleep. I serached what it is and in the end i recognized that it was the Facebook app. Installed the update to the newest version and now my phone went into Deep Sleep.
If you are not sure use CPU Spy to check.
If your display is off your phone should be nearly 100% in Deep Sleep. In Deep Sleep my phone uses nearly no battery! Thats really great and gives a long standby time! So check that newest Facebook is installed!
Regards
Kai
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the tips.. I do get great battery while display is off, but when display is on it consumes lots of battery.. For this, some one asked to set the auto brightness to lowest. in rcmix display settings..

After months of suffering the random freezes and blank screens I've came to the conclusion that my problem stems from the sd card (not the actual card as I've tried a few) but the component which holds the card.
I've returned the phone to cpw but got it back untouched!
The way I test if it's the sd card if to open my camera app and if the small box in the bottom right of the screen is not showing the last picture taken (it shows black instead) then I turn phone off, push down on the sd card, reboot, and everything works - for a while!
Edit-I'm using the oxygen ROM so the camera app is the aosp one. If you have a file explorer then trying to open a file on your sd card will also let you know if there is a problem

Hi iain2510,
which camera app do you use? I do not have this small box.
Regards
Kai

[Q] after opening my arc s turns off slowly

this happens after i overclocked my xperia arc s to 1.8ghz., 2.3,4 arconium rom, doom kernel v22, now after booting the device and when the menu shows up my phone turns to black and then restart. i already flashed the 2.3.4 rom. i dont know what to do. -_- please help.
and when i run sus it says the phone contains modified software that cannot be updated.

Too high OC.
1.8 GHz is obviously way too high for our phones, excessive clock setting causes the restart. Be happy, that it only started to do restarts. Otherwise the CPU could have melted and the phone would have been hard bricked due to hardware damage.
Flash stock kernel, should make the OC impossible, thereby no restart should occur.

I already flashed stock rom. but everytime the menu shows my phone restarts. -_- this sucks

yeah.. i think the oc was too high.. maybe it's the hardware issue..

i fixed it. i think the battery was loose a little so i tried putting paper to make it tighter. now it doesnt reboot everytime i open the phone, but i still experience random reboots. maybe 5-10x a day. -_- this phone sucks

bruts12 said:
i fixed it. i think the battery was loose a little so i tried putting paper to make it tighter. now it doesnt reboot everytime i open the phone, but i still experience random reboots. maybe 5-10x a day. -_- this phone sucks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This phone doesn't suks, your way to do things suks ! How could you think to maintain a stable overclock so high! Our phone cpu max tollerance in overclock is 1,6ghz stable. At least you could try to undervolt a little bit before to do that. Thinking mind is always the most important requisite.

^^ He's right
Maybe you didnt do a propper flash (wipe everything) and still are some scripts running and overclocking it again every boot
If not, then yes, you had probably damaged your phone.

my phone doesnt reboot now, putting paper on the battery fixed it. no more random reboot. running 1.7ghz stable oc.

G3 lag and high temperature shutdowns

I've had my G3 since launch and it's always lagged really bad when I've been using more than 1 app at once e.g., listening to music and web browsing. The device reaches 95c and then shuts down so I've had to downclock the CPU to 1.9ghz to stop the shutdowns. With it underclocked, it lags even worse now and still reaches quite high temps (75c~) I'm still on a rooted Kitkat as I haven't had time to upgrade the ROM. Do the new 5.xx ROM's fix the lag? Does it still over heat when doing really simple things?

Hi,
When i was on the stock 5.0 (20h) i had a bit of overheating but never reached the point of a shutdown.
Now I'm on a custom Rom (cloudy 2.5) and i have no heating issues, and a very good battery life.
You can try flashing the latest KDZ for your device and test it. You should also check that you don't have a process eating resources running in the background.
For me the only application that lags is the phone/agenda. It is bad lagging when you have many contacts.
I hope it helps.
Regards
Sent from my phone

lag
flash new rom clougyg3 v2.5...works wonders ....avoid task killers ...use system ui with expose installer if you want some customization...

Fahim92 said:
I've had my G3 since launch and it's always lagged really bad when I've been using more than 1 app at once e.g., listening to music and web browsing. The device reaches 95c and then shuts down so I've had to downclock the CPU to 1.9ghz to stop the shutdowns. With it underclocked, it lags even worse now and still reaches quite high temps (75c~) I'm still on a rooted Kitkat as I haven't had time to upgrade the ROM. Do the new 5.xx ROM's fix the lag? Does it still over heat when doing really simple things?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
95c? thats frying hot and not safe at all. I guess since you have had it since launch you cant return it. try custom roms and kernels and if it doesnt still fix, i d say go for another device.

assuming you are rooted and have twrp, you can try the ctt mod: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/thermal-mod-t2907363
worked for me and im on stock rom stock kernel kitkat(vs985). i just got on opera browser for about 6 minutes and the temp just sat at 55c and the power button is not even warm. before flashing the ctt mod i would start blowing at the back of my phone after 2 minutes of web browsing alone.