Hi,
i want to start a discussion with those of you who have such unstable Desires.
I am one of the sad guys having one of them. It seems that there are a few Desires which do not run like all the others.
A typical thing with this Desires are complete freezes of Android. Very often they happen when the screen is off, the phone is idle and recieve a SMS or a Phone call. The phone freezes imediately and you are never informed of the SMS or Call. It is just lost. You just detect that you can not power on your phone and must remove the battery to get it back to life.
I have this starnge freezes with every ROM. Most people do not believe you because they do not have the problems.
I have tried several things till now.
- A new SD Card
- Several ROMS
- Allways full wipe
- Allways format SD card with gparted
- Allways start from scratch without backup of Apps
- Different Kernels
- Delvik internal
- uvm...
But all of this things did not help! It seemed that only i have the Problem and i was thinking its a hardware defekt.
I was searching for a new Android device as i again installed a new ROM and read from someone with the same problems. I also read about the UV capabilities of Deamon Controller.
So i give this a try.
I now have installed AIO 3.0.4 on CM7r2 with x2sd with latest radio and one Ext4 partition. First of all i went to deamon controller and put up the voltages a little bit. And since i have done this my freezes nearly are gone.
I now played around with the settings and it turns out that you must find the right values. To much voltage is not good and to less is also not good.
It seems that there are some CPU's in some desires which are not very stable and do not like the OC / UV.
It would be very nice to know about your expirience with unstable Desires and what you have done to fix this. Perhaps we can also find good values for UV.
Or we can find a mix of things to make this Desires also stable.
Regards
Kai
It's a known issue that too much undervolting or overclocking leads to CPU freezes, or kernel panic and then restarts. That different boards have different thresholds of these is also known. That's why we usually built locks for CPU freq and voltages while booting up, and then the user is responsible for experimenting with different freq/volt values and finally arriving at an optimium range for his CPU.
Hi,
thanks for the reply.
Do you know what are the default settings in a standard rom? Is there a CPU freq and voltage change or is the standard 998 and 1275 mv?
My problem is that standard settings, tables from custom roms did not work for my desire. It is really very unstable wiith this settings and i am hoping to find other Desire users having the same problem to find a good solution.
Thanks again for the help.
Yes, 998 Mhz is the standard freq at which freq is usually locked/
Thanks again, so using 998 with 1275 schould be the normal mode every desire is supposed to work with?
I am happy
Thanks to all of you who helped me with my problems.
Finnally after one year of Problems it seems i have a solution for my unstable desire.
After 2 Days of intensive testing i want to share my experience with you.
Seems my Problem was solved by setting own UV(undervolt) values.
It works great for me, other CPU can need other values, you must play around with it. But you can also try to use my settings.
I can say the phone is now rock solid. I could not believe that it was such a little thing. I even managed now to overclock it to 1190 without freezes.
As i said i had issues with every image and tried alot with new SD cards, other kernels, setting CPU speed ... Nothing helped. I had total OS freezes 3 - 15 times a day.
But now with the new UV settings in Deamon controller i get it really stable!
I want to explain you exactly my set up.
But i strong believe it was the UV / OC settings which do the stabilisation!
My set up:
Alpharev cm7r2 (S-Off)
4 ext Recovery
16 GB Samsung Sd Card Class 10
Fat32 + 1024MB Ext4 for x2sd
Runnymed AIO 3.0.4
X2SD Script
Deamon Controller with andrev_oc and custom UV settings entered in Deamon Controller.
Things i have applied:
RunnyMede_NO_Xloud.zip (speakers are too load for me in original)
No_TPWakeUp-Runny.zip (I do not want to wake up the phone with TP)
50+ APP's
Batterylife is not too bad i think. This is a screen shot of a medium to haevy using day.
Now here are the screens on UV and OC (and battery life):
kai-t said:
Thanks to all of you who helped me with my problems.
Finnally after one year of Problems it seems i have a solution for my unstable desire.
After 2 Days of intensive testing i want to share my experience with you.
Seems my Problem was solved by setting own UV(undervolt) values.
It works great for me, other CPU can need other values, you must play around with it. But you can also try to use my settings.
I can say the phone is now rock solid. I could not believe that it was such a little thing. I even managed now to overclock it to 1190 without freezes.
As i said i had issues with every image and tried alot with new SD cards, other kernels, setting CPU speed ... Nothing helped. I had total OS freezes 3 - 15 times a day.
But now with the new UV settings in Deamon controller i get it really stable!
I want to explain you exactly my set up.
But i strong believe it was the UV / OC settings which do the stabilisation!
My set up:
Alpharev cm7r2 (S-Off)
4 ext Recovery
16 GB Samsung Sd Card Class 10
Fat32 + 1024MB Ext4 for x2sd
Runnymed AIO 3.0.4
X2SD Script
Deamon Controller with andrev_oc and custom UV settings entered in Deamon Controller.
Things i have applied:
RunnyMede_NO_Xloud.zip (speakers are too load for me in original)
No_TPWakeUp-Runny.zip (I do not want to wake up the phone with TP)
50+ APP's
Batterylife is not too bad i think. This is a screen shot of a medium to haevy using day.
Now here are the screens on UV and OC (and battery life):
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I hope this works with my setup. I have not applied wht you've listed. And I am on stock hboot, 4 GB class 4, Clockwork Mod recovery...
Will try it later in the day. Thanks!
Hi kartnite,
would be nice if you could share your experience with us if you have tried it.
Some more infos i have collected in onother thread, perhaps helpfull:
I have also used the SD Tools App.
Think i was wrong it's a samsung class 6 card:
6.1 MB write speed
27 MB read speed
My own thoughts to the comments about OC / UV:
Since the Display uses the most amount of the Battery it does not really matter to use some mv more or less. This is also prooven because the original images uses 1275 mv and 998 MHZ fix!
Some CPU's seems not to like undervolting. Some seems to have no problems with this.
For my CPU it is true that standard UV values make the phone freeze very often. Set the voltages up a little bit makes the CPU happy and my phone is stable
Also i think it is no danger, as long as you do not go over 1275 you are using the normal voltages.
About battery life i think it is important that your phone enters deep sleep mode when you turn the display off. You can check it with CPU Spy App.
My battereylife is good, at least more than 24 hours with normal usage.
My deamon settings are:
sleep min: 384
sleep max: 998
wake min: 284
wake max:1190 (here with 1350 mv)
I have set the 1190 since my phone is stable. The 1190 makes the ROM even more responsive if used.
Regards
Kai
Well, been a few hours now since I applied those settings.
Total of three force closes- Facebook, Mail and Sense.
Comparatively lesser than what it was earlier, but force closes nonetheless.
Yes, I did find that "improvement" in responsiveness but the lag returned.
I'm looking at other options, too.
Sorry for the delayed response. Wanted to wait a few hours before sharing what I observed.
Thanks for those additional points, mate. Will try them later in the day...
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kai-t said:
Hi kartnite,
would be nice if you could share your experience with us if you have tried it.
Some more infos i have collected in onother thread, perhaps helpfull:
I have also used the SD Tools App.
Think i was wrong it's a samsung class 6 card:
6.1 MB write speed
27 MB read speed
My own thoughts to the comments about OC / UV:
Since the Display uses the most amount of the Battery it does not really matter to use some mv more or less. This is also prooven because the original images uses 1275 mv and 998 MHZ fix!
Some CPU's seems not to like undervolting. Some seems to have no problems with this.
For my CPU it is true that standard UV values make the phone freeze very often. Set the voltages up a little bit makes the CPU happy and my phone is stable
Also i think it is no danger, as long as you do not go over 1275 you are using the normal voltages.
About battery life i think it is important that your phone enters deep sleep mode when you turn the display off. You can check it with CPU Spy App.
My battereylife is good, at least more than 24 hours with normal usage.
My deamon settings are:
sleep min: 384
sleep max: 998
wake min: 284
wake max:1190 (here with 1350 mv)
I have set the 1190 since my phone is stable. The 1190 makes the ROM even more responsive if used.
Regards
Kai
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Thanks Kai,
finally i found someone with the same problem,
firstly i even try to use another kernel just like gingerbread 0.9 or 0.8.
I forgot the low-voltage influence(just like OC in Computer),
thank for your sharing~
Hi all,
sorry, but i have bad news.
The UV settings seemed to help a couple of days, but than my desire begin to freeze again.
It all started with a forced close of Whatsapp. After that many force closes returned and my desire also beginn to stuck.
I tried to repair the Filesystem with gparted. But it made it even worse.
I tried the whole Weekend, and even with only 998 and no UV the Problems kept.
Seems that somehow the image gets corrupted, even Dalvik wipe, or reflashing did not help.
Now i again started from scratch.
I installed AIO 3.0.5 with complete wipe and new partitioned SD card.
This time i set up the ROM without inserted SIM Card. I have done this because things alsways stuck when SMS, Phone things happen.
I think the SIM can have influence on the ROM's stability. I do not know why.
But without SIM Card insert i could set up everything without Problems.
Installed Andrev_OC and let all settings and UV as they are. Setup Apps, Contacts, Facebook. Let the phone sync and set up. Started it a few times.
I runs stable. I made a backup.
After the Backup got this HTC Launcher error, restrted and it was ok.
Then i inserted the SIM card. Till now it works. But lets look if it gets unstable again.
If this try will not succeed i will buy a new HTC and will sell my Desire. This freezes sucks.
But as said today it worked perfect. With many SMS and phone calls withoud freeze. It is really a strange thing!!!
Hope i can tell good news in a couple of days!
kai-t said:
Hi all,
sorry, but i have bad news.
The UV settings seemed to help a couple of days, but than my desire begin to freeze again.
It all started with a forced close of Whatsapp. After that many force closes returned and my desire also beginn to stuck.
I tried to repair the Filesystem with gparted. But it made it even worse.
I tried the whole Weekend, and even with only 998 and no UV the Problems kept.
Seems that somehow the image gets corrupted, even Dalvik wipe, or reflashing did not help.
Now i again started from scratch.
I installed AIO 3.0.5 with complete wipe and new partitioned SD card.
This time i set up the ROM without inserted SIM Card. I have done this because things alsways stuck when SMS, Phone things happen.
I think the SIM can have influence on the ROM's stability. I do not know why.
But without SIM Card insert i could set up everything without Problems.
Installed Andrev_OC and let all settings and UV as they are. Setup Apps, Contacts, Facebook. Let the phone sync and set up. Started it a few times.
I runs stable. I made a backup.
After the Backup got this HTC Launcher error, restrted and it was ok.
Then i inserted the SIM card. Till now it works. But lets look if it gets unstable again.
If this try will not succeed i will buy a new HTC and will sell my Desire. This freezes sucks.
But as said today it worked perfect. With many SMS and phone calls withoud freeze. It is really a strange thing!!!
Hope i can tell good news in a couple of days!
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Hope you succeed in it.
I just replied you yesterday & set the UV setting before I slept last night.
And I have fully charge with battery in 100%.
But it still happened again, drained of battery to 30% and froze.
Also I have late for work without alarm clock.
I dont want to give up, but it is hard.
kai-t said:
Hi all,
sorry, but i have bad news.
The UV settings seemed to help a couple of days, but than my desire begin to freeze again.
It all started with a forced close of Whatsapp. After that many force closes returned and my desire also beginn to stuck.
I tried to repair the Filesystem with gparted. But it made it even worse.
I tried the whole Weekend, and even with only 998 and no UV the Problems kept.
Seems that somehow the image gets corrupted, even Dalvik wipe, or reflashing did not help.
Now i again started from scratch.
I installed AIO 3.0.5 with complete wipe and new partitioned SD card.
This time i set up the ROM without inserted SIM Card. I have done this because things alsways stuck when SMS, Phone things happen.
I think the SIM can have influence on the ROM's stability. I do not know why.
But without SIM Card insert i could set up everything without Problems.
Installed Andrev_OC and let all settings and UV as they are. Setup Apps, Contacts, Facebook. Let the phone sync and set up. Started it a few times.
I runs stable. I made a backup.
After the Backup got this HTC Launcher error, restrted and it was ok.
Then i inserted the SIM card. Till now it works. But lets look if it gets unstable again.
If this try will not succeed i will buy a new HTC and will sell my Desire. This freezes sucks.
But as said today it worked perfect. With many SMS and phone calls withoud freeze. It is really a strange thing!!!
Hope i can tell good news in a couple of days!
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Changing UV din help me too.. So back on Samsung SD card (class 2) and it works fine.. I would suggest you to try with Samsung SD cards, cause they have better read speed.. I never has even i single with Samsung SD card but with Sandisk class 4 i had many freezes with same ROM and setup...
Thanks for the suggestiones,
i think that UV did not really help.
Yes i have a 16 GB Samsung card. I tried everything to get rid of this bug.
Now i am very supriesed, since the last setup yesterday the phone worked without freeze. But lets see sometimes things get worse after a few days.
I really do not understand what causes the trouble.
Setting it up without SIM Card seemed to help?
I am really confused. I always set up ROMS very correct. Means full wipe. Let boot , give time to stabilize... But mostly the ROMS crash before having set up all apps.
Without sim there was no problem. Now lets look how it goes on with this set up.
Before i have inserted the SIM again i pressed on the metal from the sim slot to make the sim fit better? Perhaps this helped? Anyone knows about problems with this causing ROMS to freeze?
If i think back my Problems started with a new SIM Card from O2 Germany.
I will report if it will start to freeze again or if it work.
Regards
Kai
kai-t said:
Thanks for the suggestiones,
i think that UV did not really help.
Yes i have a 16 GB Samsung card. I tried everything to get rid of this bug.
Now i am very supriesed, since the last setup yesterday the phone worked without freeze. But lets see sometimes things get worse after a few days.
I really do not understand what causes the trouble.
Setting it up without SIM Card seemed to help?
I am really confused. I always set up ROMS very correct. Means full wipe. Let boot , give time to stabilize... But mostly the ROMS crash before having set up all apps.
Without sim there was no problem. Now lets look how it goes on with this set up.
Before i have inserted the SIM again i pressed on the metal from the sim slot to make the sim fit better? Perhaps this helped? Anyone knows about problems with this causing ROMS to freeze?
If i think back my Problems started with a new SIM Card from O2 Germany.
I will report if it will start to freeze again or if it work.
Regards
Kai
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I guess for me it was more over SD card issue.. My be your case is different .. best of luck on new setup.. I will be buying new SD card soon
Hi,
wish you the best luck! I have a Samsung SD card.
Works since 2 days stable. One FC when installing Facebook and i had to reboot.
But no OS freezes or missed SMS / calls.
Let's see if it stays like that. Sorry tht the UV not helped, but perhaps try fitting the SIM card better (with tesa on the back or pressing on the mettal) and try to install ROM first without SIM.
Another tip for Battery drain. I recognized yesterday that i have battery drain and i could see that my phone only gets partitialy into Deep Sleep. I serached what it is and in the end i recognized that it was the Facebook app. Installed the update to the newest version and now my phone went into Deep Sleep.
If you are not sure use CPU Spy to check.
If your display is off your phone should be nearly 100% in Deep Sleep. In Deep Sleep my phone uses nearly no battery! Thats really great and gives a long standby time! So check that newest Facebook is installed!
Regards
Kai
I don't want to be the spoilsport, but I've got the same problem only with my Samsung 16gb class 6 card, not with my "older" Sandisk class 2. But this card is way too slow for sense 3.5.
I've tried the higher UV values, which solved the freezing problem for a few days. But only temporary.
I'm considering switching to an ASOP ROM, just to keep my phone running stable. It often crashes on incoming calls or during nighttime. I missed a lot of calls and alarms.
kai-t said:
Hi,
wish you the best luck! I have a Samsung SD card.
Works since 2 days stable. One FC when installing Facebook and i had to reboot.
But no OS freezes or missed SMS / calls.
Let's see if it stays like that. Sorry tht the UV not helped, but perhaps try fitting the SIM card better (with tesa on the back or pressing on the mettal) and try to install ROM first without SIM.
Another tip for Battery drain. I recognized yesterday that i have battery drain and i could see that my phone only gets partitialy into Deep Sleep. I serached what it is and in the end i recognized that it was the Facebook app. Installed the update to the newest version and now my phone went into Deep Sleep.
If you are not sure use CPU Spy to check.
If your display is off your phone should be nearly 100% in Deep Sleep. In Deep Sleep my phone uses nearly no battery! Thats really great and gives a long standby time! So check that newest Facebook is installed!
Regards
Kai
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Thanks for the tips.. I do get great battery while display is off, but when display is on it consumes lots of battery.. For this, some one asked to set the auto brightness to lowest. in rcmix display settings..
After months of suffering the random freezes and blank screens I've came to the conclusion that my problem stems from the sd card (not the actual card as I've tried a few) but the component which holds the card.
I've returned the phone to cpw but got it back untouched!
The way I test if it's the sd card if to open my camera app and if the small box in the bottom right of the screen is not showing the last picture taken (it shows black instead) then I turn phone off, push down on the sd card, reboot, and everything works - for a while!
Edit-I'm using the oxygen ROM so the camera app is the aosp one. If you have a file explorer then trying to open a file on your sd card will also let you know if there is a problem
Hi iain2510,
which camera app do you use? I do not have this small box.
Regards
Kai
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Hey guys,
i got stable hung ups in 3D intense games (asphalt5, dungeon hunter 3D, crusade of destiny)
some 3-10 mins of play and bang! you got complete stall - have to plug out the battery to reboot.
all other games (2D arcades, tetrises, arcanoids, pacmans) are working quite stable.
i've already tried almost all available ROMS (except stock non rooted one, btw - i dont want to update HBOOT to 0.8, full reset with wiping all the caches inc. dalvik and ext3 part before each ROM.)
pays ROM (several vers)
MCR r2-r3.1 (with richard's kernel either with OCUV or with OC only or without any UVOC and with original MCK 1.1 kernel)
amer_mod des final
all are behaving the same....
what the heck? My phone is generic and certified for Russia (PCT) and it's from white shipment.
the only idea i have is slow SD, cause i use the one which was with the phone - 4GB class2 SD.
please ideas? i wanna play some time not only tetris!
just noticed one moment. it happenes not only in 3D games, it also happenes when using the phone intensively, i.e. now I got stable instant reboot when using internal browser (even with pictures and flash turned off) and opera beta for android. the most interesting part is that just before reboot the back bottom part of the phone becomes noticeable warmer, let's say about 40°c and then instant reboot. (just as it is in 3d games) I use Richards OC only (no UV) kernel v14 with Max freq. set to 998 and MCR r3.1 (everything was wiped upon flash)
Re: Stable HangUPs in 3D CPU intense games on all ROMs
Maybe its some kind of thermal protection of the cpu?
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i thought so too...
does any one knows some king of CPU thermal monitoring tool with logs for android?
Happens to me as well. The phone heats up like crazy particularly on badly coded games like the ones gameloft released. For example polarbit's armaggedon squadron runs perfectly well for any amount of time but realfootball for example causes the phone to overheat.
They really botched their ports.
just did a thermal monitoring with tempmonitor lite - but on Desite it only monitors BATTERY temp - it's about 32-33 degrees - so far i found no CPU temp mon which works. and still phone reboots during hard flash playing in about 10 mins with battery temp about 32-33 degrees. i also noticed an infinite boot loop when turning on the phone with AC plugged in. (it starting to load sense and just after SD card preparing notification STABLE instant reboot, though it may not be related)
will try to use stock ROM today (i still have the very first nandroid backup)
Try to uv without oc...should get the temps down.
Any of you guys still experiencing these problems? Have an untouched desire (sim free) that hasnt been unlocked or rooted and sometimes (although rarely) the phone just restarts itself.
Prema999 said:
Try to uv without oc...should get the temps down.
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UV only kernel reported to have some stability probs....
when u use OC only kernel and, as in my case, set up max. freq to 998 it literally means that you just dont user any OC. so overclocking is not the issue...
jaymit said:
Any of you guys still experiencing these problems? Have an untouched desire (sim free) that hasnt been unlocked or rooted and sometimes (although rarely) the phone just restarts itself.
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My phone reboots when I'm playing robo wars, when the battery is LOWish and Im charging the phone at the same time. No battery warning, just reboots. If I have a good charge on the phone, and am charging then it seems fine. This is NOT a lock up, like the original thread starter, but a straight old reboot... Annoying, but I dont play robowars when there is low charge from now on!
gunja99 said:
This is NOT a lock up, like the original thread starter, but a straight old reboot... Annoying, but I dont play robowars when there is low charge from now on!
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i got complete lock ups with only one game (heard rumors about it's bad coding style) the rest issues just reboots the phone. also i noticed that it reboots more frequent when using the phone and it's connected to charger simultaneously.
!!!UPDATE!!! 27.06.10
got back my Desire from the service after 10 days. They've changed motherboard (IMEI also changed) and no more overheating problems!!! HOORAAAY!!!!!!
It's working now even under high load!!!!
Hey there,
sorry for my bad English (that's why I post extremely seldom )...
I got a rootet HTC Desire with RCMixHD 3.0 and the D2WE-Script. Installed is a 8 GB SDHC Class 6 Card...
The thing is EXTREMELY slow (you can't use it), and sometimes really "lightning quick"...
The SD is formattet 1 GB Ext4 and the remaining 7 GB as Fat32...
AlphaRev installed for S-OFF...
HBOOT-0.93.0001
Radio 5.09.05.30_2
Recovery is AmonRA 2.0.1
I dunno why, but the device is sometimes this kind of slow... If the Screen is off, and you press the Powerbutton you can count slowly.. 1...2....3...4...5.... and a long time later the screen turns on and you can unlock it. Or if you swipe through the home-screens its pretty laggy... you swipe, nothing happen, and THEN it moves (or you have to try more often to swipe)... same at the App-Drawer... Open Apps is ok, the Apps doensn't hang or something (most times)... And the battery is empty in about one day without massive use...
Autokiller is installed and set to "Strict"
SetCPU is installed and set to Smartass @ 1113 MHz (this sometimes isn't set, too... you have to manuelly set the max. Frequency to another value and back and THEN it's recognized).
Sync with Exchange, Googmail, Facebook is enabled...
Hmm... If someone has an idea it would be wonderful!!
I thought that it's maybe the Ext4 Journaling... But nearly everyone here seems to have Jounaling enabled and no porblems with that...
Thank you for reading this crap XD
Greetings,
Alex
You don't need memory optimisation at all. Android does it for you when your running low on memory. You also must be running loads of stuff in the background or going through like 100 apps a min to get it that high. Also, change the scaling to ondemand or performance because the rest seem to mess up and not work too well with roms. You can set setCPU to boot when phone is booted. Also, your SD card needs to be fast enough but with it being class 6, I would say it is fast enough.
Hey there,
thanks for the answer. I know that Android has an internal task-management.
If I understand that right, Autokiller only sets other limits to the internal task-management so that it will kill unused tasks earlier. but I'll try it out when autokiller is disabled..
To SetCPU:
I'll give that a try, too.
Thanks!
Greetings,
Alex
edit:
BTW:
SetCPU has no Option "Performance" on my phone ... I set it to OnDemand 384 - 1113 MHz, Apply on Boot. And it has alsways root-access.
In the meanwhile I uninstalled the Taskkiller... And yeah... my old 4 GB SD has Class 6 too. I read here, that that's the minimum for installing Apps on SD...
Class 4 is the minimum for using A2SD. Did doing that solve your problem(s)?
Good morning there!
Hmmm it seems that it's a little better. But I don't know if this is just imagination
Especially if I install apps the performance is pretty bad... So I thought maybe it's the journaling (earlier I used Ext2 which has no journaling)... I dunno...
Does the data amount on my SD-Card matter?
I have much SMS (ok.. not really much data, but who knows?!), Videos and Music...
Thanks for the help!
Greetings,
Alex
Update:
It seems that now it's a little bit better, but now the phone doesn't awake from Standby very often (I have to pull out the battery - which is very annoying because I have a Otterbox )...
Any other ideas?!
Thank you!
Greetings,
Alex
So... Here another Information:
I flashed the same ROM 3-4 times again, the newer versions, too...
But no effect.
Sometimes it works for a few days, sometimes it works until the next reboot...
Now I flashed another ROM. At the first time it has the same errors like the last, but now it seems to work properly... It's not 100% what I'm looking for, but ATM the main thing is, that it doesn't crash and theres no loss of data...
Thanks again for the answers and the help!
Have a nice day!
Greetings,
Alex
my defy is just 2 weeks old and i have started experiencing trememdous lags....
its 2.2.2 running , kernel is 2.6.32.9-g0671d13 , just in case it could help in finding a solution...
1. the screen goes off on its own half of the time (even though the time out is of 1 minute) and even when i unlock it , it again goes off.. ITS REALLY FRUSTRATING
2. i have just 1 game installed, but even then the phone lags a lot, the game lags and so does the entire phone..!
3. the internet isnt getting activated (i guess thats a network problem though), anyone with a similar problem!?
please post replies as soon as possible..
well i too experience the same, mine is 30 days old...
I have disabled gps/data/wifi/auto brightness to get max battery yet it fails to go beyond 1 day even if i use max an hour of wifi.
screen going blank on it own is frustrating
moto widget for time and date does not keep current time
lag in touch even after running ATK on auto aggressive mode
defy is running indian 2.2.2
p.s. any idea if i can get data on first date of use for battery? I somehow feel a new one should give more standby life.
my phone does last around 1 1/2 days with an hours gaming....and it does keep the current date and time (as of now)...
mine too lags inspite of the ATK being on autokill.... even the homescreen takes time to load after pressing the home button ...
Might want to try getting rid of ATK.
Tasks/services run for a reason on android. When something kills them, they'll start back up, causing more cpu and memory usage than if you'd just leave the service running.
Run for a reason, but not necessarily a good one. Stock motorola/vodafone firmware that I had on my defy would run many completely irrelevant processes - VF360, newsandweather, amazon mp3, etc. Task killing isn't the solution because they just start up again.
The best way to get best performance from the phone is to install CM7.
You could try to wipe in stock recovery. Check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982, point witch says Froyo laggy. You will lose all data.
If you find it laggy afterwards, you will never be happy with the preferments on stock froyo. Then try CM7. You will be able to downgrade to send it to warranty as I also did this. It is quite a difference.
shreymehta said:
1. the screen goes off on its own half of the time (even though the time out is of 1 minute) and even when i unlock it , it again goes off.. ITS REALLY FRUSTRATING
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Is it going off while you are holding it by the top, with a finger on the left of the speaker hole?
If it is the case, it is because you are masking the proximity sensor. And if you have the "Pocket detection" feature activated, it will cause this annoying stuff...
Well not to worry even mine was laggy before, i had just installed 2-3 apps. I had to restart my phone at least once then i installed cm7 rc1.5 Now its very fast and i dont remember the last time when my phone was lagging and freezing.
I guess it has something to do with the froyo and motoblur on defy that makes it laggy.
You have to have get rid of stock froyo after owning a defy.. thats the truth..
I did a readup on the ATK stuff and the excerpt from the and dev documents... well since the read i have uninstalled all task killers... (kept one just in case with all auto actions disabled)
I do hope the lag issue is resolved after moving to CM7/Jboogie3 etc
however the battery issue is a major hurdle for now as one day is too less, i probably have to take it to the service center for a checkup and/or claim warranty on battery. till them no flashing for me...
att: patriiice - even when the proximity sensor is not covered, i do experience screen blanks, almost immediately asa the power button is pressed to wake the device.
The lag presented on the Defys running Froyo is a "super nice feature" by Motorola it has an easy fix tho.
Its caused by the VM consuming all memory, all its needed is adjusting the amount of MB the VM should leave free.
There are a few ways to it:
1) Run a terminal emulator, or use GScript Lite to run this:
su
vm.min_free_kbytes=8192
(Not permanent, need to be ran every time you reboot)
2) Get Sysctl from market and do it from there.
3) Get SetVSel and do it from there.
Lag
I have that problem to. The bad thing is that i can`t answer call during the lag, it says i have my phone is closed or i don`t have signal. I`ve installed Temp+CPU and during lag it shows that the proc is running at 100%. Memory has all the time, around 130 min and 230 max. Closed all programs one by one, no change. I restart the phone and everything is running smooth and it lasts max 1 day. i have stock rom 2.2.2. (please excuse my spelling)
mmariann2001 said:
I have that problem to. The bad thing is that i can`t answer call during the lag, it says i have my phone is closed or i don`t have signal. I`ve installed Temp+CPU and during lag it shows that the proc is running at 100%. Memory has all the time, around 130 min and 230 max. Closed all programs one by one, no change. I restart the phone and everything is running smooth and it lasts max 1 day. i have stock rom 2.2.2. (please excuse my spelling)
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I also use 2.2.2 stock and my defy runs without lag... you should consider to root the phone and freeze some unnecessary stock-preinstalled apps like Kindle, Voice command, etc... the ones you will never use. I freezed about 20 apps and there is no lag at all. (I even froze Maps, Streets, SIM toolkit, and some others)
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The lag presented on the Defys running Froyo is a "super nice feature" by Motorola it has an easy fix tho.
Its caused by the VM consuming all memory, all its needed is adjusting the amount of MB the VM should leave free.
There are a few ways to it:
1) Run a terminal emulator, or use GScript Lite to run this:
su
vm.min_free_kbytes=8192
(Not permanent, need to be ran every time you reboot)
2) Get Sysctl from market and do it from there.
3) Get SetVSel and do it from there.
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My Defy was lagging until I rooted and installed SetVSel. Now its running as breeze with Stock Indian Froyo.
stock froyo is not good but it shouldn't be that bad. there were some faulty battery issue that i have heard of before too. but in your case your defy might even be faulty. so i would suggest you get it replaced or fixed under warranty first before flashing any custom rom.
lag on defy
with rootunistaller i`ve frozen skype and yahoo and i haven`t had any lag since. If i want 2 use them "defrost" and when i`m finished i just "freeze" back the app
mmariann2001 said:
with rootunistaller i`ve frozen skype and yahoo and i haven`t had any lag since. If i want 2 use them "defrost" and when i`m finished i just "freeze" back the app
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Easy as that...
Lag on defy
Nope. I was wrong after 3 days of normal proc usage it started again. I`ve installed OS Monitor (free on market) and there was a process the ate all my resources: "DRM Protected Content Storage". Selected watch log and there was something like "enter,delete update, uri: content://media/external/audio/media/1 ../44.... /254..."
This process is searching ur phone for media, video audio and looked like it was stucked at this folder. I`ve searched the phone for that folder but couldn't find it so i just killed the app in OS Monitor. After the process restarted at log was showing "media search finished:182 audio files found and 1 video found". Looks like that's my problem and maybe yours to. Cheers mates
so I might visit the service center this weekend to have my battery life checked.. one day life with all wifi/data/gps disabled and below average voice calls is not acceptable at all.
what is stock recovery?? and will it void my warranty???
thanks a lot guys for ur replies!!
but the thing is my phone has become even slower!!
when i first switch on the phone i have around 240MB free RAM but just after an hour everything becomes too slow, even opening of the menu! and after 2-3 hours of usage it keeps on reducing and finally reaches as low as 40MB .....
what could be causing this??
i have android assistant by which i clear cache, ram still it doesnt help....
Hi everyone,
I just flashed ARHD 7.0.2 on my Desire HD last night and I'm experiencing the following problem:
The CPU remains at 99-100% all the time, the battery drains excessively fast and the phone gets really hot.
Using "Watchdog Lite", I detected that when the CPU does not stay at 100% (after a battery-pull), the "Phone" process uses 0,0% of CPU.
However, for some reason, after a while it will jump up to 80-90% and stay there, causing the CPU to go berserk.
I suppose the heat-issue comes from the fact that the cpu works all the time at 100%.
The battery drain issue comes also from the CPU.
However, I do not know why the Phone process would suddenly go crazy and use that much cpu - and keeps doing it until the battery is dead.
I'm thinking it is because the ARHD 7.0.2 ROM is actually a stock Sensation XL base and thusly requires another RIL than the one that was on it before that.
Before flashing another RIL or radio I would like it very much if somebody could confirm that the fact that the Phone process goes crazy like that could very well be linked to the fact that the RIL and Radio don't match.
It seems obvious, but I don't know enough of the inner workings to verify this, so therefor: this thread
Thanks in advance to all!
sstm
The RIL should be pretty standard between HTC devices so that shouldn't cause any issues. Did you do a full wipe before the install?
Hello TransientMotion,
Yes I did a full wipe, I even cleared the battery stats for good measure.
I even formatted my SD-card to make sure nothing remained from some app somewhere.
The phone is as if I'd have bought it fresh out of the store with ARHD 7.0.2 on it (and rooted of course)
It's just weird to see that the "Phone" process is using this much cpu, even when on Airplane mode.
Thanks for you reply,
sstm
It may be worth trying out an earlier version of the rom just to see what happens. I used 6..3.1 before I switched over to ICS and never had any major problems with it. If that works fine then try newer versions until you get glitches again or it works without the drain
Hey,
I just found out that it is Llama (kebabApp 'location aware' application) who is causing the problem.
Whenever I leave an area and then re-enter it, the CPU goes berserk and stays that way as if some loop can never be interrupted.
I didn't have this problem on ARHD 6.3.1, but I didn't have the same Llama configuration on it either so I tried the Llama config on ARHD 6.3.1 and it did the exact same thing: cpu 100% and slowness all over.
So conclusion: Llama config is the culprit.
Anyways, thanks for you help TransientMotion.
sstm
Phone: Rooted Samsung s3
Rom: CM10.1.2
Kernal: Kt747
Battery: 4200 mah extended battery
My phone is freezing like all the other threads on here but mine only does it during gameplay I've tried different roms but all were the same, right now my current setup has the least freezes but it still freezes a lot. I've done everything correctly when flashing, wiped everything completely and I also tried everything that other people on this forum has suggested. I've tried Lagfix trim app, Dummy file generator, seeder, kernal tweaks, turning off sync, adjusting wifi settings. Nothing has worked! I've even let my phone sit there for about 3 hours to let it unfreeze itself to see if that would help, but it didn't help. My freezes are different, when it freezes I can go back into the home screen within seconds and when I get back into the game, everything is fine but it will freeze again after 30 seconds. Other than that, my phone runs insanely smooth and fast.
Does anyone know what is wrong with my phone? and how to fix this problem? or any other possible solutions?
P.S: I know it's not a memory problem either, I have a bit over 11gb of free space on internal memory and 4gb on SD.
vizi0nz said:
Phone: Rooted Samsung s3
Rom: CM10.1.2
Kernal: Kt747
Battery: 4200 mah extended battery
My phone is freezing like all the other threads on here but mine only does it during gameplay I've tried different roms but all were the same, right now my current setup has the least freezes but it still freezes a lot. I've done everything correctly when flashing, wiped everything completely and I also tried everything that other people on this forum has suggested. I've tried Lagfix trim app, Dummy file generator, seeder, kernal tweaks, turning off sync, adjusting wifi settings. Nothing has worked! I've even let my phone sit there for about 3 hours to let it unfreeze itself to see if that would help, but it didn't help. My freezes are different, when it freezes I can go back into the home screen within seconds and when I get back into the game, everything is fine but it will freeze again after 30 seconds. Other than that, my phone runs insanely smooth and fast.
Does anyone know what is wrong with my phone? and how to fix this problem? or any other possible solutions?
P.S: I know it's not a memory problem either, I have a bit over 11gb of free space on internal memory and 4gb on SD.
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Check your kernel settings. Could be a voltage or governor issue. If that doesn't work, flash the kernel again or try another one. Are you running a nightly or stable release of Cm? Also, do a nand and flash a stock rom and see if you have the same issue.
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Yes it's a stable release of cm, also I tried flashing it again but no luck. The governor is on ondemand setting. I've also tried a lot of other new things and it worked a bit better but still freezes. Anyone else with suggestions?
Also, I don't know how to mess with the voltage.. Lol it just looks like numbers to me..
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