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T-Mobile 6.5

Just want to know what is the over under for T-mobile getting the official 6.5? I say 3 weeks. This sucks.

rickyteddyb said:
Just want to know what is the over under for T-mobile getting the official 6.5? I say 3 weeks. This sucks.
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3 ****in weeks crazy man im waiting for it tooo long

haha its not that far away

I'm up in WA and the WWE one just released works great - the only issue so far is no 3G indication, only H. Still looking into it....

mattk_r said:
I'm up in WA and the WWE one just released works great - the only issue so far is no 3G indication, only H. Still looking into it....
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H as in HSDPA {enhanced 3G (third generation)}?
You didn't mean E by any chance did you?

Definetly H where I was getting the 3G indication with the 6.1 OEM ROM.
So by that link it looks like I am getting 3G, wonder why it detects differently... time to dump and play
Thanks for the link!

mattk_r said:
Definetly H where I was getting the 3G indication with the 6.1 OEM ROM.
So by that link it looks like I am getting 3G, wonder why it detects differently... time to dump and play
Thanks for the link!
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I believe we use the term "3G" because its easier for most people to say than "HSDPA" and they seem to be less confused as well.
Any cooked ROM will say "H" instead of "3G" unless cooked otherwise.

I thought H was like 3.5G. I'm in Australia so i cant get edge, but my notification area shows both H and 3G, it swaps between them, as well as the tower icon for GSM.

omganinja said:
I thought H was like 3.5G. I'm in Australia so i cant get edge, but my notification area shows both H and 3G, it swaps between them, as well as the tower icon for GSM.
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thats what i thought it was also

Somone mentioned in the AT&T HSPA thread that Tmobile & AT&T disabled the H in their ROMs. If you really want the 3G instead of the H, theres a registry edit that'll disable it for you.
HKLM\Software\OEM\RIL & change EnableHSDPAIcon to 0 instead of 1

Any news on t-mobile 6.5?
As the days go by, i'm hating this phone more and more. I know i can mess with the Rom, but what ever happen to a phone being good straight out the box?

rickyteddyb said:
As the days go by, i'm hating this phone more and more. I know i can mess with the Rom, but what ever happen to a phone being good straight out the box?
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Ive had my touch pro 2 for about 2 months now and I love it, Out the box it does alot more than any other phone out, Try flashing the official European rom it works great with the tmobile touch pro 2.... How can a phone get any better other than a the processor and memory????? this is a beasttttttt...

I love the phone, how could you not? My house became a dead spot for all Tmobile phones over the weekend for some reason & I had to use my unlocked Tilt for the duration... I have no idea how I used that phone for so long... I missed my TP2 like crazy for those 2 days!
It was weird that any Tmobile branded phone wouldn't work in my neighborhood, but an unlocked Tilt with my Tmo SIM card worked perfectly.

I'm using the official euro rom too and it's pretty sweet. I did use the t-mobile rom for a while but couldn't help myself, always checking out the neighbors grass - green, green, green. Check the forums for AT&T bloatware and you may feel a little better about things . That grass is not so green.

I agree with the previous post. The WWE 6.5 version is very slick, and I would never go back to the 6.1 t-mobile version. I'm glad I didn't wait!

What do you hate about this phone? It is a great phone that does everything. Granted I have flashed the ROM but I didn't hate anything about it for the 2 weeks I waited before flashing it. (for reference about 2 weeks longer then any other of my phones)

xnifex said:
Somone mentioned in the AT&T HSPA thread that Tmobile & AT&T disabled the H in their ROMs. If you really want the 3G instead of the H, theres a registry edit that'll disable it for you.
HKLM\Software\OEM\RIL & change EnableHSDPAIcon to 0 instead of 1
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of if you use Advanced Config there is a setting under Data that will allow you to enable/disable the HSDPA Icon.

I liked the t-mobile firmware when i got it. Had some quirks but worked a lot better than my g1. (Good for it's time, Lack of apps and poor battery life got to me. I can browse the web on my tp2 on and off for 3-4 hours and still have half a battery left.)
I tried tons of 6.5 roms. Many had neat features and was cool but a lot of times, there was an issue that drove me nuts. Battery life was a huge one. My battery goes dead a LOT quicker with some of the roms. I hope that the t-mobile 6.5 has just as good battery life and cool features as the htc 6.5. I have noticed that with the htc 6.5, the gps isn't as strong. I can get a signal outside in a minute or two but near a window i get nothing. With the t-mobile rom, i could get a signal near a window. My new sony ericsson from t-mobile gets gps a LOT better!
Thanks t-mobile for the tp2!

xnifex said:
Somone mentioned in the AT&T HSPA thread that Tmobile & AT&T disabled the H in their ROMs. If you really want the 3G instead of the H, theres a registry edit that'll disable it for you.
HKLM\Software\OEM\RIL & change EnableHSDPAIcon to 0 instead of 1
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I get H on mine all the time

reception problems

hi all
ive been having trouble with my desire for a while now. im getting very poor signal and not been able to send mms. i was with t mobile but didnt get anywhere with them so i left and signed up to vodafone who brag reaaly strong signal in my area. guess what.... worse then t mobile. i get 1-2 bars max and my 3g constantly drops off to nothing a lot. ive been to htc and vodaphone and still no real help. vodafone are sending me a new sim incase its a problem with mine. has anyone else got a poor signal in a good area? i tried the sim in a different phone and had the same bed reception so i thought it was vodafone but then tried my friends sim in my desire (orange). he had 4 bars in his but in my desire i only got 1-2 again. this would suggest a problem with both lol.
the strange thing about the 3g is everytime i switched it it droped down then off with in a few seconds but i used advanced task killer to kill all apps and my 3g came on straight away and didnt go again. could somthing be blocking it somehow maybe? my reception was still poor but atleast i could get some sort of internet.
im alos finding brown blotches on my battery cover. like the coating is rubbing off. again anyone else had this?

I get a rubbish signal, and have e-mailed HTC support to see about getting my phone replaced/repaired. I only get a 2g signal at work in central London, if I set the network to "WCDMA Only" it can't even detect the network, but when I put my SIM in my old phone (HTC HD) I get 5 bars of HSDPA and around 3mbps data so clearly the phone is the problem and not coverage.

dickson123 said:
I get a rubbish signal, and have e-mailed HTC support to see about getting my phone replaced/repaired. I only get a 2g signal at work in central London, if I set the network to "WCDMA Only" it can't even detect the network, but when I put my SIM in my old phone (HTC HD) I get 5 bars of HSDPA and around 3mbps data so clearly the phone is the problem and not coverage.
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have you even bothered to try a new radio? i get 4 bars hsdpa on tmob prepay whereva i go

AndroHero said:
have you even bothered to try a new radio? i get 4 bars hsdpa on tmob prepay whereva i go
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I don't want to root it otherwise I'll end up wasting time flashing different ROMs every week. Besides, I don't see a new radio making a difference when it can't even detect the 3g network and the blackstone gets 5 bars H.

as above im not to keen on rooting too. not that i dont really want to more that i dont know enough to try it. ive read the walk throughs and it sounds easy ish but i dont want risk it. i did the who new rom thing with my hd2 and i was for every changing roms. what im trying to find out is where the problem lies, vodafone or the desire.

stephen2529 said:
as above im not to keen on rooting too. not that i dont really want to more that i dont know enough to try it. ive read the walk throughs and it sounds easy ish but i dont want risk it. i did the who new rom thing with my hd2 and i was for every changing roms. what im trying to find out is where the problem lies, vodafone or the desire.
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The problem is neither its the software, the shipped radios are **** lol thats why htc release so many new ones
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

i did think that might be the case. i had a similer thing with my old hd2 and a new radio did help a lot. again havent really got the confidance to root this phone. hopfully the update will bring a better radio. any ideaqs why using task killer brought back my internet conection?

Same problem with my desire but only after the ota update last month i think it was. I am also not comfortable rooting yet.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

been on the phone to htc and they think it could be the antena and have recomended i send it in to them. vodafone are alos sending me a new sim to try too just incase its not working right.

stephen2529 said:
i did think that might be the case. i had a similer thing with my old hd2 and a new radio did help a lot. again havent really got the confidance to root this phone. hopfully the update will bring a better radio. any ideaqs why using task killer brought back my internet conection?
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rooting ur desire is sooooo easy now man u should give it a try, i had experience b4 rooting my hero but after i took my desire owta its box i was rooted 20 mins later it was that easy

lol i may give it a second look. last time a looked there was some problems i thnk and posts saying dont do it but i guess things have moved on since then.

stephen2529 said:
lol i may give it a second look. last time a looked there was some problems i thnk and posts saying dont do it but i guess things have moved on since then.
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this is the tut i used its so simple
http://nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire/

cool thanks for that. ill have a read through now.
making the gold card seems the harder part. ill have to get another card to at some point too. who knows i may end up just going for it lol. just hop it works if i do. be just my luck it is the antena

There's loads of threads on here about reception...
EG: try GSM auto ( PRL ) works fab on my Orange UK phone.. but have a look at the forum ..

3G+ On Rhodium

Every once in a while, I will get the 3G+ Icon for my service. Is this 4G? I'm on AT&T and was wondering why I would get this Icon?

I get 3G+ on a different network too... It's not 4G for sure because my network doesn't have 4G

I think that means 3.5G or 3.75G .. may be !!

waeljimmy said:
I think that means 3.5G or 3.75G .. may be !!
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If you're on a stock ROM, it is likely an icon for HSPA service. This is basically 3.5G service. Most custom ROMs will have a "H" icon instead of 3G when this is the connection.

cajunflavoredbob said:
If you're on a stock ROM, it is likely an icon for HSPA service. This is basically 3.5G service. Most custom ROMs will have a "H" icon instead of 3G when this is the connection.
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Sometimes I get 3G+ and sometimes H... so I guess they mean something different.

Daved+ said:
Sometimes I get 3G+ and sometimes H... so I guess they mean something different.
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Which service provider do you use, and which ROM are you using?

cajunflavoredbob said:
Which service provider do you use, and which ROM are you using?
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I'm on Claro but I'm outside the US... And I use the JackOS rom.

Icons and network speeds can be sometimes confusing on Windows Mobile devices.
Unlike other branded devices, "3G" is 3.6Mbps (category 6 HSDPA) and "H" stands for 7.2Mbps (category 8 HSDPA).
I never saw a "3G+" icon. Maybe if you would post a screenshot I could help you further.
EDIT: @OP, no Rhodium doesn't support 4G (LTE) so no matter what icon you got it's definitely not 4G The first HTC device to support this was the HTC ThunderBolt (right?).

[Q] 4g not working after root?

just like the title said. i just rooted my g2 about 2 weeks ago and since then theres no 4g at all. i use Cyanogen wiki to help me root. the only thing works is edge. if you guys can help it would be really great. if not, im unrooting my phone.
im a noobie to this. so here is what my recovery said.
radio-26.02.01.15_m2
hboot-0.76.2000
thanks in advance!

iLOSER said:
just like the title said. i just rooted my g2 about 2 weeks ago and since then theres no 4g at all. i use Cyanogen wiki to help me root. the only thing works is edge. if you guys can help it would be really great. if not, im unrooting my phone.
im a noobie to this. so here is what my recovery said.
radio-26.02.01.15_m2
hboot-0.76.2000
thanks in advance!
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How do you know it's not working?
If you're running CyanogenMod, and are expecting a 4G icon, CM shows an H instead because it's not "real" 4G.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

OriginalGabriel said:
How do you know it's not working?
If you're running CyanogenMod, and are expecting a 4G icon, CM shows an H instead because it's not "real" 4G.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
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REALLY?! omg, it's so embarrassing. cause i only get the E and G and im thinking it's edge and something else. thanks!
Edit: i do get H also in some certain area. just not where i live cause it's mostly like the country side. lol

iLOSER said:
REALLY?! omg, it's so embarrassing. cause i only get the E and G and im thinking it's edge and something else. thanks!
Edit: i do get H also in some certain area. just not where i live cause it's mostly like the country side. lol
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Technically, our device is HSPA+ and not 4G, hence why the developers opted for an 'H' icon; there is a mod out there that replaces the 'H' with a '4G' icon, if you want your device to lie to you like T-Mobile did.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

OriginalGabriel said:
Technically, our device is HSPA+ and not 4G, hence why the developers opted for an 'H' icon; there is a mod out there that replaces the 'H' with a '4G' icon, if you want your device to lie to you like T-Mobile did.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
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no thank you! if this is the truth then i'll just stick with the H. i just needed to know. SCREW YOU T-MOBILE for making us fall for that 4g

In my opinion - T-mobile's faux 4g is better (and I suppose AT&T has it as well, but AT&T sucks )
Reasons:
1. So much cheaper for them to put into place.
2. Speeds (on 4g networks I have used - NY, Dallas, Portland, dozens of other places) are always north of 3 mbps down and 1 mbps up, all you really need for any kind of laptop tethering, and certainly more than you ever need for netflix on your phone, and definitely way more than you need for browsing sites on your phone (good websites nowadays even with plenty of pictures are small size still).
3. It doesn't suffer from the constantly low signal issues of real 4g (i.e. no signal AT ALL inside of buildings - this is what I have seen from multiple people who have traveled with me - I have 4g when they have 2x or whatever the hell edge is for them)
4. Super cheap for our provider to upgrade, passing savings on to us in the long run - in some cases, all the tower needs is a firmware upgrade. At worst, fiber optics lines are needed in order to facilitate the faster speeds needed.
5. In "real" 4g phones, you have to turn something on to access your faster speeds? Really? I know, bit hypocritical coming from a guy who has rooted his phone and flashes roms, (for the record, I've only flashed G-lite after rooting!) but I bet the average consumer doesn't realize that they have to turn it on and never uses it. With HSPA+, it might not always be really "4G" when the icon says "4G," but at least we don't have to turn anything on - we just have to be in signal range! If you really want to know, you can get a widget (or modify the good ol' framework-res.apk )
6. Furthermore, BATTERY. Need I say more? From the numerous people who have managed to get LTE signal I have traveled with, the BATTERY DRAINS LIKE WATER OUT OF A... SOMETHING WITH A HOLE IN IT. Ridiculous. Don't know about you guys, but even when I had low signal strength HSPA+ at work all day long, my battery would fall maybe 30% over 12 hours of light use on the stock unrooted rom.
I've decided to make a thread out of this in the "General" area, just to collate everybody else's opinion and see what you all think!

[Q] Strange icon in notification area...

I have an unlocked at&t phone on tmobile's network. just got it today. it's completely stock except for the fact that it's unlocked. and i'm fully aware that this is an at&t forum, but the phone for all intents and purposes is built by/for at&t.
there's an icon in my notification area that says "t-mobile" (pictured). anyone know why this occurs?? when i pull down the notification area, there is nothing that corresponds to this icon. it's taking up too much space for absolutely no (discernible) reason.

Angry Black Man said:
I have an unlocked at&t phone on tmobile's network. just got it today. it's completely stock except for the fact that it's unlocked. and i'm fully aware that this is an at&t forum, but the phone for all intents and purposes is built by/for at&t.
there's an icon in my notification area that says "t-mobile" (pictured). anyone know why this occurs?? when i pull down the notification area, there is nothing that corresponds to this icon. it's taking up too much space for absolutely no (discernible) reason.
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Why does it say "edge" beside T-Mobile with little data bars, if you're connected to WiFi?

Angry Black Man said:
I have an unlocked at&t phone on tmobile's network. just got it today. it's completely stock except for the fact that it's unlocked. and i'm fully aware that this is an at&t forum, but the phone for all intents and purposes is built by/for at&t.
there's an icon in my notification area that says "t-mobile" (pictured). anyone know why this occurs?? when i pull down the notification area, there is nothing that corresponds to this icon. it's taking up too much space for absolutely no (discernible) reason.
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It's telling you which network you're logged into. With an AT&T sim in, it would say AT&T up there. This is not terribly useful when you're on your home network but indispensable when you're roaming abroad. Many networks have roaming partners, so, if you were in Italy for example, you may find that being on WIND was about 10% of the price than being on VODAFONE. Also, if you're near a border area, you really don't want it roaming onto a foreign network when it could be using your local one.
The stock touchwiz roms have this up on the top left. CM based roms tend to just have it on the lock screen (from what I can tell).
TMobile has a different 3g frequency setup than AT&T which is why your phone is using Edge (2g+). I saw a way on the these forums to unlock the AWS band which may be worth looking at.

DMF1977 said:
Why does it say "edge" beside T-Mobile with little data bars, if you're connected to WiFi?
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3rd party app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blueline.signalcheck&hl=en

rdoac said:
It's telling you which network you're logged into.
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The stock touchwiz roms have this up on the top left. CM based roms tend to just have it on the lock screen (from what I can tell).
TMobile has a different 3g frequency setup than AT&T which is why your phone is using Edge (2g+). I saw a way on the these forums to unlock the AWS band which may be worth looking at.
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this is all outstanding information. thank you! i was definitely getting annoyed that it was edging instead of 3ging when im not directly in 4g spaces. and knowing that this is part of touchwiz, i intend to CM it so it should hopefully go away.
i'll defnitely look into unlocking the band. didn't know this would be an issue when i got the phone. awesome info!!

Angry Black Man said:
3rd party app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blueline.signalcheck&hl=en
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Have u tried disabling this app? Could be that? I don't remember my carrier name being up there when I was stock, but that was only a few days! Lol... I'm running a custom tw ROM now, and its not there either... Just sayin...

DMF1977 said:
Have u tried disabling this app? Could be that? I don't remember my carrier name being up there when I was stock, but that was only a few days! Lol... I'm running a custom tw ROM now, and its not there either... Just sayin...
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... by stock, i mean that i'm not running a 3rd party rom. at any rate, my question is hitherto resolved.

rdoac said:
TMobile has a different 3g frequency setup than AT&T which is why your phone is using Edge (2g+). I saw a way on the these forums to unlock the AWS band which may be worth looking at.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771021
done! hspa now instead of edge. that's ultra sexy.