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My touch pro2 usually works great, but from time to time becomes agonzingly slow loading programs or doing anything. This can last for quite a few minutes and means if I want to quickly use my phone for something, it takes ages or I just give up and try later when all is back to normal.
Task manager showed me when this happened the filesys.exe process was running at 30-50%. Googling this lead me to all the many pages about the compaction process on WM5+ devices. However these almost all relate to dell axims, and no one seems to be having problems with the touch pro 2.
I have searched the rhodium forum on here and can find no mention of this problem - are other TP2 users just not having this problem?
I am running pocket informant 9 and wonder if all the smaller memory writes it does when i'm using it make this problem appear more often. Am also using SPB pocket plus.
Any ideas? There is loads of free memory on the phone.
Jon
Same Here
It makes the phone extremely frustrating to use. I have found that the official TP2 6.5 ROM is woeful with it, while a Windows Mobile Power User ROM that I am running is acceptable so far.
Nice device, pity about the OS
Well, I can't see any reason why it can't be configured so any necessary compacting gets done at night when i'm not using the phone. A similar cab file was made for the dell on WM5, so i'm not sure if such a tweak exists for wm6.
I recently updated my TP2 to WM6.5 (from 6.1) and am finding that the unit is not comfortable with displaying the new UI. All menus now appear surrounded by messy line structures which occasionally even leave traces after the menu has gone. I also find that the spacing of items in the new menus is overly-large. Whereas before a menu of five or six items could appear on screen, now only four are visible (landscape mode, 8 in portrait) and it is now necessary to scroll through menus where it wasn't before. Is there anything I can do about this?
Many thanks.
AidanBell said:
I recently updated my TP2 to WM6.5 (from 6.1) and am finding that the unit is not comfortable with displaying the new UI. All menus now appear surrounded by messy line structures which occasionally even leave traces after the menu has gone. I also find that the spacing of items in the new menus is overly-large. Whereas before a menu of five or six items could appear on screen, now only four are visible (landscape mode, 8 in portrait) and it is now necessary to scroll through menus where it wasn't before. Is there anything I can do about this?
Many thanks.
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Can you post a screenshot of the graphical corruption you describe?
I might suggest reflashing the upgrade before you get much further, some users have reported that doing so has resolved all kinds of odd behavior after the Tmo 6.5 upgrade.\
However, the resized menus you're talking about just sound like the normal change in 6.5. I think there's cabs around here to revert to the old menu styles, but I'm not sure. The idea of course is they're more finger-friendly this way, but you're dealing with the obvious side-effect of that.
Many thanks. Here's a screenshot as requested.
Hmmm ... cabs which allow me to keep 6.5 yet return to the 6.1 menus? YES PLEASE! If anyone could possibly point me in the right direction...?
Cheers.
AidanBell said:
Many thanks. Here's a screenshot as requested.
Hmmm ... cabs which allow me to keep 6.5 yet return to the 6.1 menus? YES PLEASE! If anyone could possibly point me in the right direction...?
Cheers.
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Ouch, that's pretty ugly! Yes I would start with at least a hard reset, but really I'd suggest just reflashing the upgrade, and see if that makes any difference.
Now I think I've seen cabs for that (the older, or at least smaller, style of WM menus), if not a reg entry...but I honestly can't recall or find where at the moment
EDIT: one more quick question- what carrier are you with?
Thanks for the advice. I guess that will be my best course of action, unless I can track down a menu-changing cab or reg tweak, which would then very possibly negate needing to do a hard reset or flash. I'll give it a while and see if anybody else can perhaps help with such a cab first.
Cheers.
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I think there's cabs around here to revert to the old menu styles, but I'm not sure.
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REALLY!?? WHERE???
Please, I'd give my first born if I had one, I HATE the 6.5 menus, the old ones were friendly enough.
I had the same issue as the OP when i updated to 6.5 ...
Graphical anomolies that looked just like his, and it wasn't just menus getting frozen, it was programs and switching tabs and going from one text to another, switching e-mails...
Perhaps the issue with 6.5 is the graphics driver??
- Mark
Guys just do a hard reset and let everything run its corse. 9 times out of 10 this is the biggest issue with flashing a new rom. It's always best that after you flash your phone you do at least one or two hard resets to set all the files and reg entries where they are supposed to be... why? I have no idea but I know when I flash I always do a hard reset and never seem to have the issues others do.
I tried, Aaron, I tried! I bit the bullet and did a hard reset, then re-flashed the 6.5 update and then did another hard reset. And when it was all done the menus were perfect and everything was the way it's meant to be ... ... ... for about 10 minutes! But then from one moment to the next it was back to how it was before. Grrrrr!
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I tried, Aaron, I tried! I bit the bullet and did a hard reset, then re-flashed the 6.5 update and then did another hard reset. And when it was all done the menus were perfect and everything was the way it's meant to be ... ... ... for about 10 minutes! But then from one moment to the next it was back to how it was before. Grrrrr!
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Does your phone feel noticibly warmer after running for that amount of time?
Yes! Absolutely. After half an hour or so of using TomTom - constant screen on - it feels only a little short of worryingly hot.
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Yes! Absolutely. After half an hour or so of using TomTom - constant screen on - it feels only a little short of worryingly hot.
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I see...well the reason I ask is because in regular PC's, graphical corruption like that is usually caused by either driver problems, or heat issues...when the processing chips get too warm, they can start to display all sorts of weird things.
I don't know how to eliminate drivers as the cause in this case, other than the fact the issue seems fairly isolated, if there were driver problems we'd probably see a lot more people with this issue.
As for the heat issue, I can offer this experiment for now:
Get a ziplock bag (or something else that won't leak), and put some ice cubes in it...when you've got the phone working where you don't see the issue at first, when you first turn it on, lay it on the bag of ice and let it sit there for a bit while you operate it as you normally would...see if the graphics still go wonky after a while, or if that eliminates it or at least delays it.
EDIT: Yes, it would be a good idea to wrap the bag or whatever with a cloth (shirt, whatever) as well, to keep possible condensation away from the phone. Obviously the point is to keep the phone extra cool for this test, so just use common sense when working out how you prefer to do that.
Make sure you wrap that ice bag in some sort of cloth to absorb the condensation, or you will have a waterlogged rhodium. Even if you were to save a water damaged phone and get it working again, the phone's life would be greatly diminished due to oxidation of components.
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Make sure you wrap that ice bag in some sort of cloth to absorb the condensation, or you will have a waterlogged rhodium. Even if you were to save a water damaged phone and get it working again, the phone's life would be greatly diminished due to oxidation of components.
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Yes, good point..."problem solving" trumped "think it all the way through" there for a min lol. Thanks Hamsteriel, post updated.
AidanBell said:
Yes! Absolutely. After half an hour or so of using TomTom - constant screen on - it feels only a little short of worryingly hot.
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Well that's normal. The reason your phone is warm after using tomtom with the screen on for 30 minutes is because the gps is active AND the screen is on so the phone is going under some pretty heavy usage.
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I see...well the reason I ask is because in regular PC's, graphical corruption like that is usually caused by either driver problems, or heat issues...when the processing chips get too warm, they can start to display all sorts of weird things.
I don't know how to eliminate drivers as the cause in this case, other than the fact the issue seems fairly isolated, if there were driver problems we'd probably see a lot more people with this issue.
As for the heat issue, I can offer this experiment for now:
Get a ziplock bag (or something else that won't leak), and put some ice cubes in it...when you've got the phone working where you don't see the issue at first, when you first turn it on, lay it on the bag of ice and let it sit there for a bit while you operate it as you normally would...see if the graphics still go wonky after a while, or if that eliminates it or at least delays it.
EDIT: Yes, it would be a good idea to wrap the bag or whatever with a cloth (shirt, whatever) as well, to keep possible condensation away from the phone. Obviously the point is to keep the phone extra cool for this test, so just use common sense when working out how you prefer to do that.
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Even after reflashing the phone like he said he did that its a little more then that and it's likely hardware..... ie.. warranty issue with HTC. Go to your carrier and show them the phone. They'll do one of two things, the first give you a new phone on the spot.. the second fill out a form and have it so you are shipped a new phone, when the new phone comes you use the prepaid packaging HTC sends with their warranty phones and put your own one in. If you have flashed a custom rom you have to remember to put back your stock rom and get rid of the HardSPL
I must agree with Aaron. I don't consider overheating when using TomTom to be an issue.
I'm afraid you misunderstood my situation Sirphunkee. The display problem is permanent, allways there. It was only "not there" for about 10 minutes after I did the re-flash and hard re-set, since when it's been permanent again. I don't believe I have an over-heating issue, and I can't see how the menu problem could be heat-related, since it's there 100% of the time, even when the unit is stone cold.
If only someone ... anyone! ... could come up with the link to the cab or reg-tweak that returns WM 6.5 to the 6.1 menus, not only would that very possibly solve my problem but would also return me to the much, much better menus.
I think I've discovered what my problem is. I can't give details, but I think it's the "Winterface" UI that I am using. Just now I had cause to replace all the Winterface files, and blow me, suddenly my menus are fine again! That was two minutes ago, so it remains to be seen how long this will last!
UPDATE:
OK, here's the latest: unfortunately within minutes the menus were bad again. I've now updated to the latest version of Winterface, however that hasn't solved the issue. Although the obvious answer would be to change my UI, I am extremely loath to do that as I'm very used to and very keen on Winterface, so I'd like to first try to tackle repairing the issue. Now that we know that Winterface is behind the problem, can anyone offer any suggestions how to address and repair?
Incidentally, I can confirm that it is Winterface that's causing the menu problem. In between uninstalling and reinstalling the two versions of Winterface I played extensively with the device and all the menus were normal.
Have you tried downgrading the rom to 6.1 again to see if the problem persists? And have you searched here ------> Windows Mobile Development and Hacking Specifically the "Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General" Forum?
You're odds of finding the answer will probably drastically increase by doing a search for your answer there. I swear I saw a thread once in there about getting 6.5 menu's on 6.1 Although I dont recall if it worked the other way around.
I'm currently using an EnergyROM w/ Sense 2.5 on my Touch Pro 2 and am happy with everything so far, however my only let down with Windows Mobile is the types of applications made available for it.
I'm wondering whether it's worth me installing Android on my phone for the sake of having better quality applications and games?
Or is it still too early in development for something like that? I remember awhile back people were saying the sound wasn't working.
As far as Android go and whether its worth installing really depends on what type of apps you need. The sound is still not working on the external speaker at the moment as well as some other functions. With your current Windows build you are using, it will still be there. Android is installed on the external storage card. You can switch back after running Android by doing a soft reset.
Actually you dont need to even soft reset (well not with the stylus anyway), just hold down the lower right button and it will ask you to power down? then it starts back up in WM
Some people are using it as their main operating system but I just 'Play' with it. As mentioned ring tones etc is not working yet.
Mayflix said:
As far as Android go and whether its worth installing really depends on what type of apps you need. The sound is still not working on the external speaker at the moment as well as some other functions. With your current Windows build you are using, it will still be there. Android is installed on the sim card. You can switch back after running Android by doing a soft reset.
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I think he actually means the external storage card. It doesn't hurt to try it out to see if it's something you'll like. You can always go back to WinMo by soft resetting your device.
if android worked as well on my touch pro 2 as well as it does on my touch pro, i would be using it as my daily driver. sound doesnt work, power management doesnt really work, but the apps are good and with sense its very pretty, and i feel i can jump in and play games and stuff without having to worry about not having a phone since it can still make calls are send texts. if the camera, sound, gps where working, and the battery could last for more than 2 hours, i would have no reason to go back into windows really. hopefully the touch pro 3 will be android or something. if just for getting sense on 2.1 in landscape.
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if the battery could last for more than 2 hours
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20+ hours standby with push email is WAY longer than 2 hours....
Besides, REAL tech flashing geeks wouldn't need to ask this question. Its a matter of trying it yourself, and coming to an educated conclusion on whether or not its worth it for YOU.
As started before it really comes down to teh apps you need. I been trying out android on my TP and besides the inaccurate battery meter its actually pretty good. I haven't made the ful switch over yet since I haven't found replacements to all my apps on WinMo but definitely found some good additions on android. Just tried it out for a while loading off the SD card and see how you like it.
Once they get TomTom on Android and that little app that transfers all sounds to your bluetooth headset in wm is when Android will become my prefered choice of OS. I like the idea of beeing able to "Dual Boot" back and forth from WM and Android. I would be completely OK with it if everything worked just using Haret.
As of right now personally I'm not satisfied with android on the tp2 as I was on the Kaiser but if they got that far on a 3+ year old device why not on the Tp2? I'm just hoping no one gives up on it.
starmena said:
Once they get TomTom on Android and that little app that transfers all sounds to your bluetooth headset in wm is when Android will become my prefered choice of OS. I like the idea of beeing able to "Dual Boot" back and forth from WM and Android. I would be completely OK with it if everything worked just using Haret.
As of right now personally I'm not satisfied with android on the tp2 as I was on the Kaiser but if they got that far on a 3+ year old device why not on the Tp2? I'm just hoping no one gives up on it.
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Tomtom!?? Screw tomtom! Google maps navigator!!!!
I've used tomtom since my early days using palm phones. I love the ap but google maps make it look obsolete. Once they get the GPS working on our phones I'll probably start using the android WAY way more.
Here are the apps I MUST HAVE to switch 100%
1. calendar exchange - need to know when to get to meetings
2. google market - after download and before install with 2.38gb free on storage and hundreds of mb free on device get not enough storage error. need this to install google voice for free calls.
3. way to get repeating reminders and sms alerts. need to get to meetings or know when I have to call in for something.
4. wireless router app.
5. evernote - haven't checked it prob an app for it.
6. quick upcoming appts view and weather conditions with wind and number of unread messages for each account on home page.
I can reboot for music if needed.
Thanks guys for all your comments.
I decided to run the AOSP 2.1 as I heard Sense UI version causes a few issues.
Everything looks pretty normal, only that unfortunately most of the apps I want to run are not found in the market. (I've heard that developers filter apps based on phone model, locale or features)
The big issue for me is battery life.
I can charge the phone no problem but it always stays at 62% and the battery drains very quickly.
Games-wise: I tried to install a "3D" if you can call it that game called 'Replica Island' and couldn't even run it as it was too laggy, didn't even get past the intro stage. All the other simpler games I have had no problem with. I also installed Scummvm with a plugin/game but don't know where it was saved to on the SD. Most likely that will lag too as it did even in WinMo.
My issues so far:
Cannot get Gen Y Dualboot to work, it just says that Android cannot be found. (When installing Android I used the .rar version not .cab)
Can't get sound to work via earphones. It says "(in call mic and earpiece work)" Does that mean it only works if someone calls me?
Overall user experience in Android is much better than WinMo. In Windows mobile, I have to click many times to get to wanted app or menu entry, while I usually clicks once or twice to get there.
One big thing for me is Google Voice integration. My folks uses phone card from Rebtel to call relatives overseas. Their fingers aren't usually fast enough for Rebtel to accept all digits. Google voice eliminated all the hassle and steps of using phone card. I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE IT!!
I really like it and wish they would fix the sound and 3d so that you can run games.... I use it for testing only for now.
No sound, still ?!? Not worth it as a phone device. A play device yes, thats about it. Winmo for me I get to all my apps and prog in just one or two clicks. Learn to use your quicklinks.
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I'm currently using an EnergyROM w/ Sense 2.5 on my Touch Pro 2 and am happy with everything so far, however my only let down with Windows Mobile is the types of applications made available for it.
I'm wondering whether it's worth me installing Android on my phone for the sake of having better quality applications and games?
Or is it still too early in development for something like that? I remember awhile back people were saying the sound wasn't working.
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Well, it's fun to play with for 10 minutes, but without working sound it's still pretty useless.
And I'm beginning to think the lack of sound problem will never be resolved
I'm beginning to think the lack of sound problem will never be resolved
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Don't lose faith. It takes time because the developers have to go through extensive testing to make sure the features will work properly.
They are most likely focusing on improving the battery life first before they finish porting the other features, because what good is it having sound when the battery drains within 30-60 minutes.
I thought the battery is fine, it's just the readings/meter that is inaccurate
Wish it's not running in software emulation mode too though..it's a bit "laggy" to my taste
ilabstudios said:
Don't lose faith. It takes time because the developers have to go through extensive testing to make sure the features will work properly.
They are most likely focusing on improving the battery life first before they finish porting the other features, because what good is it having sound when the battery drains within 30-60 minutes.
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20+ hours of standby with push email running is NOT 30-60 minutes. The battery IS fine, its just the meter that needs work. Charging even works now.
michaelra said:
I thought the battery is fine, it's just the readings/meter that is inaccurate
Wish it's not running in software emulation mode too though..it's a bit "laggy" to my taste
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Just FYI, it's not emulated, HaRET unloads Windows Mobile and then loads Linux (and eventually Android) like a bootloader. Like Loadlin, if you know what that was. The slowness results from a lack of hardware OpenGL coupled with the fact that the Rhodium is a WVGA device running on an underpowered MSM7xxx chipset. While that lag can be improved upon with proper GPU support and some performance optimizations (and even a little overclocking), this device will never be as fast running Android as the Nexus One, or the Hero, or most other native Android devices.
The touch pro 2 uses the same (or very similar) processor as the Hero, correct? I guess the big "problem" going forward for the TP2 is the higher resolution screen. Even if HW support for graphics rendering comes to fruition for Android on the TP2, the processor will likely be the "bottleneck" in regards to performance..
I tried cyanogenmod6, VaniljEclair RLS7c, polyrhythmic 2.1d, myn's warm donut, even the first froyo...
and I run into the same problems.
1. Some games/apps like Shoot U! Lite, Zenonia and AN3D Benchmark, appear with the graphics heavily distorted, like someone changed it to a diamond shape and scaled it to lengthen the aspect ratio. The app, however works, stuff move around when I touch the screen, but the screen remains distorted. (see the attachment)
2. Android is a tad faster than the windows mobile but I would like to make it even faster, any thoughts?
3a. If I call this phone and close immediately as I hear the beep ( sort of under one second ), the android phone either just vibrates and does nothing, either does nothing and doesn't display someone called. It seems that it needs about 1-2 seconds after the beep the caller hears in the phone, to display someone is calling.
3b. When in an app and when you get called, it shows a black screen, vibrates, and after some good 8-10 seconds, it displays the call screen.
4. How do I access the files on it? It won't mount when I connect it to the pc via usb.
5. When I connect it to a pc with windows 7, it randomly repeats the notification tone and displays I connected it via usb with a pc.
1 and 3a/3b are the most important...
Thanks.
1. can't help you with this
2. Try not to use widgets, as much as possible. I found my device to hang alot, especially with the flip clock widget. installing many programs may affect performance too. use only necessary stuff
try installing the latest kernel, this helps a little as well.
3. OK:
A). I have the same issue, but I think most people won't hang on you after two rings
B). Never had this problem. maybe the app you are using requires great amount of memory, and nothing is left for the phone app. I guest guessing though...
4. Best thing is to use memory card reader.. I tried alot to get ADB working on windows 7 with no luck, the drivers are not available. I read somewhere that if you use Ubuntu, things are much easier
I still don't know how to copy files to the system... I wish someone else could help with this.
5. Again, it's the drivers.. I find this notification tone very irritating.. I just put my device on vibrate, and call it even
3b. this happens to me also. you can answer with green button if you dont need to see who is calling. download taskiller to keep unused background stuff closed
4. if you reboot and hold down the dpad, you can select recovery mode and you will be able to connect to pc.
Well, the 5. seems to have gone away in the latest cyanogenmod builds.
On the 2. , the problem seems to be with multitasking , that's what stresses my kaiser. If I run one game, it goes well. If while I have the game launched, I try to switch to desktop or if someone calls me and launches the dialer, thing go slow.
Also for 5: go to Settings>Sound And Display> then un-check "SD Card notification"
1.
which rom are you using? NAND or SD haret.. if NAND change "panel" in your NBH with nbh editor (is somewhere in this forum, just use search)
2.
You can use Roguetools is overclocking CPU.. max set on 520MHz higher is dangerous for your phone. i think only one disadvantage of it is higher consumption and higher temperature but its not anything bad...
3a+b.
point 2 can help to you.
4.
On phone you can use Astro file manager.. it is on Market.. and through PC? you have 2 options.. first you can unplug SD Card and plug it to adapter and to pc.. or second - you can download FTP Server from Market, and you can connecting to it from your computer through ftp client..
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Its problem of Kaiser and Vogue.. now it dont working.. maybe later..
I wanna know any possibility to make my android faster too.
It goes really slow. If I do nothing, like switch between desktop. It's as smooth as even G1.
Once I run something.. and try to switch back to
Desktop. Or try to run calender(whatever build. Calender is slow in all of thm.)
I tried latest kernal. Yet still slow.
Is that possible to change cpu or add some more ram?
I really like keyboard with android.
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hitakeane said:
I wanna know any possibility to make my android faster too.
It goes really slow. If I do nothing, like switch between desktop. It's as smooth as even G1.
Once I run something.. and try to switch back to
Desktop. Or try to run calender(whatever build. Calender is slow in all of thm.)
I tried latest kernal. Yet still slow.
Is that possible to change cpu or add some more ram?
I really like keyboard with android.
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It's not possible to change the CPU or RAM, since these are not computers with changeable components, however there are a few things you can do to make things run a little smoother, cut down on the work the processor does by disabling a lot of the eye candy in settings/spare parts, use the 'keep launcher in memory' option, try swapper2, to set up a swap file or even swap partition, cut down on widgets, if you don't use it it will still take up memory and cpu cycles.
I have also noticed that 2.2 eats available memory for breakfast, even on my G1 it will start to get really slow after a while, and is often as low as 5-7Mb free ram, and I've noticed kaiser versions do much the same.
Lets face it, at 400MHz the kaiser is about the same as a stock G1, which is fine on donut, or eclair, but really struggles with froyo, and it has the advantage of a little extra memory and scalable clock.
The fastest setup I have found is nand flashed with Polymod 2.1D, or Myn's Warm Donut, every froyo build I have tried gets too slow, even on my G1.
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which rom are you using? NAND or SD haret.. if NAND change "panel" in your NBH with nbh editor (is somewhere in this forum, just use search)
2.
You can use Roguetools is overclocking CPU.. max set on 520MHz higher is dangerous for your phone. i think only one disadvantage of it is higher consumption and higher temperature but its not anything bad...
3a+b.
point 2 can help to you.
4.
On phone you can use Astro file manager.. it is on Market.. and through PC? you have 2 options.. first you can unplug SD Card and plug it to adapter and to pc.. or second - you can download FTP Server from Market, and you can connecting to it from your computer through ftp client..
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Its problem of Kaiser and Vogue.. now it dont working.. maybe later..
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I am using only SD, too chicken to try NAND yet... Maybe when I get a desire or galaxy S...
It seems on Froyo, It rings from the first beep, it launches almost all games, no more tearing and goes well. It's a bit slower than eclair, but hell, it's getting there alright!
So the remaining are 2, 3b, 4 and 5. I am glad I can play zanonia .
I am AMAZED by the power of this forum, I never thought android can run on a 3 year old phone that has absolutely no connection to android.
@hitakeane
Disable all animations and all transition efects, fades, etc.
Disable all wireless data connections
Enable 2g only
Use Launcher Pro with as less widgets and home screens as possible ( I use only 2 home screens)
Use Advanced Task Manager ( blue icon ) and close all.
Disable all synchronizations, data transfers, etc
Uninstall what you do not use.
Reboot OS
Wait till it's warming up (the os), it goes terrible when it's cold.
Use this froyo: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715402
It's the fastest for me.
And just wait... It takes alot of hard work to optimize it. A few weeks ago, it didn't even have a camera And now, even youtube plays fluidly ( not on hq ). And the only problems are the performance, battery life and usb connectivity.
Good luck!
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The fastest setup I have found is nand flashed with Polymod 2.1D, or Myn's Warm Donut, every froyo build I have tried gets too slow, even on my G1.
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Hmm, I've been running Incubus26Jc's Froyo (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712310) for some time now, and for me it's equally fast as the 2.1 VaniljEclair I ran before. You might want to try that one, I'm pretty satisfied. Still not as fast as a phone should work though, but it's better than WiMo.
How does it run after installing a few games and apps and you start putting some widgets?
What radio version do you have? Super froyo lags alot on my kaiser...
I'm using radio 1.71.09.01 if I remember correctly. I don't have a lot of applications installed on Android indeed, nor do I have any games. So maybe it'll get slower if I install more stuff, but so far so good for me.
I had 1.71 and I had some problems with it.
1.65.21.18 is what I use now, and It's better imho: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2210513&postcount=3
But be careful, they say radio is dependent on your location and network .
I know exactly what number 1 is. I've been experimenting and I found out some games don't support QVGA (240×320) and they show up distorted like that. So I tried 320×420 and 320×480 AND they show up normal. So basically the app you got wasn't compatible with QVGA resolution.
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Maybe that's the problem, however, even if froyo isn't still quite optimized for my kaiser, yet, all the games I had a problem with, now run like a charm in froyo.
One more update, do you know why I can't get more than 11 mb of ram free when I close all apps? Maybe that's why it runs so slow...
I have a Kaiser 130 and i have a display issue i tried changing 3-4 androids - 2.2 Froyo, 2.1 Enclair but nothing changed ... My screen still looks like crap
PLEASE HELP ME
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Could you help me ,please or not?
If you create a thread with more description of your problem then yes. Include what kernel you are using, what panel type, any other pertinent settings and what build. Also does the screen work fine in WM. Those are good details to include rather then going to a almost 6 month old thread and saying I have this issue to!
I just flashed my Kaiser with Fat Free Froyo RLS5. I really like the Android OS, but the lack of functionality is bothersome. I can't type into the Google search bar that is on the desktop, the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor. I've only been using it for about an hour and already found all these problems so I can image that there are more.
All I am looking for it a version of Android that will allow me to use the camera, browse my SD card from my PC, and has a working WiFi. Speed is also a concern.
If I could get some suggestions I would be appreciative.
Thank you.
lemminman said:
I just flashed my Kaiser with Fat Free Froyo RLS5. I really like the Android OS, but the lack of functionality is bothersome. I can't type into the Google search bar that is on the desktop, the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor. I've only been using it for about an hour and already found all these problems so I can image that there are more.
All I am looking for it a version of Android that will allow me to use the camera, browse my SD card from my PC, and has a working WiFi. Speed is also a concern.
If I could get some suggestions I would be appreciative.
Thank you.
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Camera not working is related to your kernel/radio rom. Also you could use not so super froyo if you want the same with more features. If you want more speed I suggest a Cyanogen based rom as these are the fastest currently. I suggest changing your kernel to l1qu1ds latest .32 kernel via the thread that is stickied at the top.
USB to pc is not working through my computer right now but adb is at least. What I do for data transfer is just use System on NAND and Data on SD and use a card reader for the data.
Lastly, remember that android on the Kaiser is by no means perfect and is still more or less of a thing to be like "Look what my old phone can do!" thing. If you want everything perfect then Windows mobile has that already. Otherwise if you want a cooler newer OS on your phone then its going to take a little time for us. We have come a long ways but not all the way there yet.
lemminman said:
I just flashed my Kaiser with Fat Free Froyo RLS5. I really like the Android OS, but the lack of functionality is bothersome. I can't type into the Google search bar that is on the desktop, the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor. I've only been using it for about an hour and already found all these problems so I can image that there are more.
All I am looking for it a version of Android that will allow me to use the camera, browse my SD card from my PC, and has a working WiFi. Speed is also a concern.
If I could get some suggestions I would be appreciative.
Thank you.
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the search bar will work if you download google search from the market, it was removed since it can be installed from the market, fat free is fully functional you just have to work to get it going out of the gate, now in contrast not so super froyo is ready to go from the get go
lemminman said:
the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor.
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I am using Fat Free Froyo RLS5 and all that stuff works for me.
USB to PC works perfectly in linux It works for me on windows 7 too, but you just have to wait a long time (maybe 2-5 mins) for the computer to recognise it.
To change the alarm volume just roll the jog wheel while in that menu (or press whatever buttons you have assigned to volume up/down)
Thanks for the help, guys.
I suggest changing your kernel to l1qu1ds latest .32 kernel via the thread that is stickied at the top
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That is the kernel I have. My radio is version 1.65 something.
What I do for data transfer is just use System on NAND and Data on SD and use a card reader for the data.
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I don't have a card reader; that is why this is important to me. Are there any Android versions that this works, or an app that I can install even?
Lastly, remember that android on the Kaiser is by no means perfect [...]
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The only reason I don't want WMP is because it is ridiculously slow to respond. I had heard that Android was much faster so I am giving it a try.
the search bar will work if you download google search from the market
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That part really isn't a big deal; I probably would never even use it. It was just one of the many small glitches I was noticing during normal use. Things like there being no way to bring the phone back from sleeping except the power button (not even opening it!). At one point, when it is just sitting on my desk, the screen turned white and the phone was completely unresponsive. I had to hard reset it. They keyboard works except when dialing a number where it seems completely random.
If there is a workaround to these things, I'm fine with doing some personalizing, but if not, I would like to know if there are flavors that don't have these kinds of issues.
I think I will try Cyanogen like you suggested and see if I like it any better.
Thanks again for the help.
lemminman said:
Thanks for the help, guys.
That is the kernel I have. My radio is version 1.65 something.
I don't have a card reader; that is why this is important to me. Are there any Android versions that this works, or an app that I can install even?
The only reason I don't want WMP is because it is ridiculously slow to respond. I had heard that Android was much faster so I am giving it a try.
That part really isn't a big deal; I probably would never even use it. It was just one of the many small glitches I was noticing during normal use. Things like there being no way to bring the phone back from sleeping except the power button (not even opening it!). At one point, when it is just sitting on my desk, the screen turned white and the phone was completely unresponsive. I had to hard reset it. They keyboard works except when dialing a number where it seems completely random.
If there is a workaround to these things, I'm fine with doing some personalizing, but if not, I would like to know if there are flavors that don't have these kinds of issues.
I think I will try Cyanogen like you suggested and see if I like it any better.
Thanks again for the help.
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the white screen is a known issue apparently overclocking improves this
White screen is present when the system didn't draw the screen before it power up.
When you overclock the system is faster so it spend less time to draw the interface.
Sometimes you have with screen when the system sleep but it can't resume because the main app crashes.
To change the alarm volume just roll the jog wheel while in that menu
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This changes "Ring volume" regardless of what I have opened.
Thanks for all the input, everyone.
I have tried four different Android builds now and I haven't gotten a USB data connection with any of them. I noticed that one of them had a Network option, as though I might be able to browse files of computers on the network which would solve my problem. Unfortunately, that particular build just says "Error" when I try to turn WiFi on.
Is there an android app I can install that will allow me to transfer files between my phone and a PC? That is really the number one priority right now. To test these Android builds I have been reverting back to WMP every time I want to try a different one because I need to put the androidinstall.tar onto my card. I tried loading a bunch of different ones on the card to avoid this, but I get "Permission denied" when I try to rename a file in the andboot folder.
Thanks again.
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I have a kaiser with froyo kernel 2.6.32 date 9.9.2010 I have overclocked with atools to 500 mhz and also overclocked the GPU, battery is standard setting. My radio is Neon 1.65.24.36 Together with thoughtlesskyle`s (thank you!!) fat free release 5, i have a very stable situation here. I have to admit i am not a heavy user. Merely phonecalls and sms (or whatsup) and sygic navigation software . I only have to reboot once a week. I am not sure why, maybe because i use cachemate once a while.
For connection between pc and kaiser i use SD Share Dual Mount. It works perfectly. I had flashed the latest kernel(s) of l1q1d because of the alleged stable reboots. I am sad that i did not have stable reboots, it got stuck and i had to reinstall my apk`s again. And most important for me, the SD Share did not work with the latest kernel(s), thats why i reverted back to the 9.9.2010 one.
As for the white screen, it only happens to me if my kaiser goes asleep and i awake it immediately. If i take some seconds between asleep and awakening, it`s okay.
I have to thank many people here to be able to use my kaiser like i bought it yesterday or so. Maybe someone can try my settings and profit from it, like i do.
Shayer said:
I have a kaiser with froyo kernel 2.6.32 date 9.9.2010 I have overclocked with atools to 500 mhz and also overclocked the GPU, battery is standard setting. My radio is Neon 1.65.24.36 Together with thoughtlesskyle`s (thank you!!) fat free release 5, i have a very stable situation here. I have to admit i am not a heavy user. Merely phonecalls and sms (or whatsup) and sygic navigation software . I only have to reboot once a week. I am not sure why, maybe because i use cachemate once a while.
For connection between pc and kaiser i use SD Share Dual Mount. It works perfectly. I had flashed the latest kernel(s) of l1q1d because of the alleged stable reboots. I am sad that i did not have stable reboots, it got stuck and i had to reinstall my apk`s again. And most important for me, the SD Share did not work with the latest kernel(s), thats why i reverted back to the 9.9.2010 one.
As for the white screen, it only happens to me if my kaiser goes asleep and i awake it immediately. If i take some seconds between asleep and awakening, it`s okay.
I have to thank many people here to be able to use my kaiser like i bought it yesterday or so. Maybe someone can try my settings and profit from it, like i do.
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Well at least the white screen is being worked on, see the thread I made.