I tried cyanogenmod6, VaniljEclair RLS7c, polyrhythmic 2.1d, myn's warm donut, even the first froyo...
and I run into the same problems.
1. Some games/apps like Shoot U! Lite, Zenonia and AN3D Benchmark, appear with the graphics heavily distorted, like someone changed it to a diamond shape and scaled it to lengthen the aspect ratio. The app, however works, stuff move around when I touch the screen, but the screen remains distorted. (see the attachment)
2. Android is a tad faster than the windows mobile but I would like to make it even faster, any thoughts?
3a. If I call this phone and close immediately as I hear the beep ( sort of under one second ), the android phone either just vibrates and does nothing, either does nothing and doesn't display someone called. It seems that it needs about 1-2 seconds after the beep the caller hears in the phone, to display someone is calling.
3b. When in an app and when you get called, it shows a black screen, vibrates, and after some good 8-10 seconds, it displays the call screen.
4. How do I access the files on it? It won't mount when I connect it to the pc via usb.
5. When I connect it to a pc with windows 7, it randomly repeats the notification tone and displays I connected it via usb with a pc.
1 and 3a/3b are the most important...
Thanks.
1. can't help you with this
2. Try not to use widgets, as much as possible. I found my device to hang alot, especially with the flip clock widget. installing many programs may affect performance too. use only necessary stuff
try installing the latest kernel, this helps a little as well.
3. OK:
A). I have the same issue, but I think most people won't hang on you after two rings
B). Never had this problem. maybe the app you are using requires great amount of memory, and nothing is left for the phone app. I guest guessing though...
4. Best thing is to use memory card reader.. I tried alot to get ADB working on windows 7 with no luck, the drivers are not available. I read somewhere that if you use Ubuntu, things are much easier
I still don't know how to copy files to the system... I wish someone else could help with this.
5. Again, it's the drivers.. I find this notification tone very irritating.. I just put my device on vibrate, and call it even
3b. this happens to me also. you can answer with green button if you dont need to see who is calling. download taskiller to keep unused background stuff closed
4. if you reboot and hold down the dpad, you can select recovery mode and you will be able to connect to pc.
Well, the 5. seems to have gone away in the latest cyanogenmod builds.
On the 2. , the problem seems to be with multitasking , that's what stresses my kaiser. If I run one game, it goes well. If while I have the game launched, I try to switch to desktop or if someone calls me and launches the dialer, thing go slow.
Also for 5: go to Settings>Sound And Display> then un-check "SD Card notification"
1.
which rom are you using? NAND or SD haret.. if NAND change "panel" in your NBH with nbh editor (is somewhere in this forum, just use search)
2.
You can use Roguetools is overclocking CPU.. max set on 520MHz higher is dangerous for your phone. i think only one disadvantage of it is higher consumption and higher temperature but its not anything bad...
3a+b.
point 2 can help to you.
4.
On phone you can use Astro file manager.. it is on Market.. and through PC? you have 2 options.. first you can unplug SD Card and plug it to adapter and to pc.. or second - you can download FTP Server from Market, and you can connecting to it from your computer through ftp client..
5.
Its problem of Kaiser and Vogue.. now it dont working.. maybe later..
I wanna know any possibility to make my android faster too.
It goes really slow. If I do nothing, like switch between desktop. It's as smooth as even G1.
Once I run something.. and try to switch back to
Desktop. Or try to run calender(whatever build. Calender is slow in all of thm.)
I tried latest kernal. Yet still slow.
Is that possible to change cpu or add some more ram?
I really like keyboard with android.
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hitakeane said:
I wanna know any possibility to make my android faster too.
It goes really slow. If I do nothing, like switch between desktop. It's as smooth as even G1.
Once I run something.. and try to switch back to
Desktop. Or try to run calender(whatever build. Calender is slow in all of thm.)
I tried latest kernal. Yet still slow.
Is that possible to change cpu or add some more ram?
I really like keyboard with android.
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It's not possible to change the CPU or RAM, since these are not computers with changeable components, however there are a few things you can do to make things run a little smoother, cut down on the work the processor does by disabling a lot of the eye candy in settings/spare parts, use the 'keep launcher in memory' option, try swapper2, to set up a swap file or even swap partition, cut down on widgets, if you don't use it it will still take up memory and cpu cycles.
I have also noticed that 2.2 eats available memory for breakfast, even on my G1 it will start to get really slow after a while, and is often as low as 5-7Mb free ram, and I've noticed kaiser versions do much the same.
Lets face it, at 400MHz the kaiser is about the same as a stock G1, which is fine on donut, or eclair, but really struggles with froyo, and it has the advantage of a little extra memory and scalable clock.
The fastest setup I have found is nand flashed with Polymod 2.1D, or Myn's Warm Donut, every froyo build I have tried gets too slow, even on my G1.
Michga said:
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which rom are you using? NAND or SD haret.. if NAND change "panel" in your NBH with nbh editor (is somewhere in this forum, just use search)
2.
You can use Roguetools is overclocking CPU.. max set on 520MHz higher is dangerous for your phone. i think only one disadvantage of it is higher consumption and higher temperature but its not anything bad...
3a+b.
point 2 can help to you.
4.
On phone you can use Astro file manager.. it is on Market.. and through PC? you have 2 options.. first you can unplug SD Card and plug it to adapter and to pc.. or second - you can download FTP Server from Market, and you can connecting to it from your computer through ftp client..
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Its problem of Kaiser and Vogue.. now it dont working.. maybe later..
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I am using only SD, too chicken to try NAND yet... Maybe when I get a desire or galaxy S...
It seems on Froyo, It rings from the first beep, it launches almost all games, no more tearing and goes well. It's a bit slower than eclair, but hell, it's getting there alright!
So the remaining are 2, 3b, 4 and 5. I am glad I can play zanonia .
I am AMAZED by the power of this forum, I never thought android can run on a 3 year old phone that has absolutely no connection to android.
@hitakeane
Disable all animations and all transition efects, fades, etc.
Disable all wireless data connections
Enable 2g only
Use Launcher Pro with as less widgets and home screens as possible ( I use only 2 home screens)
Use Advanced Task Manager ( blue icon ) and close all.
Disable all synchronizations, data transfers, etc
Uninstall what you do not use.
Reboot OS
Wait till it's warming up (the os), it goes terrible when it's cold.
Use this froyo: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715402
It's the fastest for me.
And just wait... It takes alot of hard work to optimize it. A few weeks ago, it didn't even have a camera And now, even youtube plays fluidly ( not on hq ). And the only problems are the performance, battery life and usb connectivity.
Good luck!
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The fastest setup I have found is nand flashed with Polymod 2.1D, or Myn's Warm Donut, every froyo build I have tried gets too slow, even on my G1.
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Hmm, I've been running Incubus26Jc's Froyo (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712310) for some time now, and for me it's equally fast as the 2.1 VaniljEclair I ran before. You might want to try that one, I'm pretty satisfied. Still not as fast as a phone should work though, but it's better than WiMo.
How does it run after installing a few games and apps and you start putting some widgets?
What radio version do you have? Super froyo lags alot on my kaiser...
I'm using radio 1.71.09.01 if I remember correctly. I don't have a lot of applications installed on Android indeed, nor do I have any games. So maybe it'll get slower if I install more stuff, but so far so good for me.
I had 1.71 and I had some problems with it.
1.65.21.18 is what I use now, and It's better imho: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2210513&postcount=3
But be careful, they say radio is dependent on your location and network .
I know exactly what number 1 is. I've been experimenting and I found out some games don't support QVGA (240×320) and they show up distorted like that. So I tried 320×420 and 320×480 AND they show up normal. So basically the app you got wasn't compatible with QVGA resolution.
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Maybe that's the problem, however, even if froyo isn't still quite optimized for my kaiser, yet, all the games I had a problem with, now run like a charm in froyo.
One more update, do you know why I can't get more than 11 mb of ram free when I close all apps? Maybe that's why it runs so slow...
I have a Kaiser 130 and i have a display issue i tried changing 3-4 androids - 2.2 Froyo, 2.1 Enclair but nothing changed ... My screen still looks like crap
PLEASE HELP ME
Way to necropost?
Could you help me ,please or not?
If you create a thread with more description of your problem then yes. Include what kernel you are using, what panel type, any other pertinent settings and what build. Also does the screen work fine in WM. Those are good details to include rather then going to a almost 6 month old thread and saying I have this issue to!
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Hi All,
Using official htc sea wm 6.5
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Anyone encountered this so called memory leak before??
Try this:
Lock screen by going Start (honeycomb) then lock
I noticed if i lock the screen memory uses up ALOT whole faster... within half a day it hits to 78% used... When incoming calls, screen does not show, but phone vibrates, i press the answer and phone picks up ok... other functions like sms and emails works ok, but alot slower too.
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I'm also using a mp3 ringtone though.. not such if this caused it, i have actually shorten and compressed the file already, was 7mb, drop to 3mb to 1.8mb now to 1mb...
I noticed when calls comes in, the screen does not lag that much (earlier issue does not happen in this assumption)...
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Camera application if activated in my pocket (Mis-press, i current assume so..) for unknown amount of time, i notice it and close it.. applications fail to launch properly...
Bottom menus (the phone(left), camera(right) on home screen etc) all dont work anymore.. it jus does not display out properly..
Top menus (close button etc) also does not display properly.. say i press start button (top right on home screen), the top menus bar changes to light blue, but honeycomb on main windows does not come out. No close button on top right either, but i can still close it (looks like not rendered properly of sorts)
TouchFlo3d works still though... i can rotate around phone, contact etc etc
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Memory uses up alot faster... after i soft reset the phone.. memory hovers at 50%, within an hour will go up to 61% odd.. but stabilizes... phone can be used ok..
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There are occasional random crashing of god knows what.. sometimes during sms i notice theres a popup of errors in some service of sorts... notice happens during sending sms mostly...
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Screen auto changes between landscape and portrait mode, sometimes it auto recovers, else, i need to slide out keyboard for awhile, wait for it to stablise, then close keyboard. Not sure if this is the result of taking out from the lather pouch??
Anyone noticed or encountered all these before?? HELP!! ; ;
Program installed:
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Google Maps (Update)
Batti
Carmin Mobile XT
Windows Live (Update)
NoPushInternet
MarketPlace
Youtube (Update)
WorldMate Live Installer
WorldMate Live
SKTools
MySoftReset
All programs have been there more or less for a few months already... The programs indicated with (update) means i updated further from default.
Is this a software thingy probably that a hard reset could solve it, or this is more like a thingy that needs to go into service center??
1. That sounds normal. I was using the official HTC WinMo 6.5 ROM a while back and I remembered that the RAM usage stabilized at around 75%. This is regardless whether you use the lockscreen or not.
2. Don't know what you mean...
3. Sounds like a one-off thing. Can you replicate the problem consistently?
4. This is normal. Goes for all WinMo devices.
5. Sounds like an issue with your carrier's network.
6. My best guess is that the magnet on the pouch is affecting the screen rotation.
ohyeahar said:
1. That sounds normal. I was using the official HTC WinMo 6.5 ROM a while back and I remembered that the RAM usage stabilized at around 75%. This is regardless whether you use the lockscreen or not.
2. Don't know what you mean...
3. Sounds like a one-off thing. Can you replicate the problem consistently?
4. This is normal. Goes for all WinMo devices.
5. Sounds like an issue with your carrier's network.
6. My best guess is that the magnet on the pouch is affecting the screen rotation.
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Are u using any mp3 ringtone? Does it have any issues if we use a big mp3 as ringtone??
Noticed if i use a big file, when calls/sms comes in, phone will "lag" and vibrate with no display of incoming call...if you press call(pickup) button, it ok ok..
chuachongchee said:
Are u using any mp3 ringtone? Does it have any issues if we use a big mp3 as ringtone??
Noticed if i use a big file, when calls/sms comes in, phone will "lag" and vibrate with no display of incoming call...if you press call(pickup) button, it ok ok..
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I use a 1MB mp3 file. Works fine for me. But I can see that it makes sense for there to be a lag if a large file was used. Lesson here is: try to use small sound files for performance!
ohyeahar said:
1. That sounds normal. I was using the official HTC WinMo 6.5 ROM a while back and I remembered that the RAM usage stabilized at around 75%. This is regardless whether you use the lockscreen or not.
2. Don't know what you mean...
3. Sounds like a one-off thing. Can you replicate the problem consistently?
4. This is normal. Goes for all WinMo devices.
5. Sounds like an issue with your carrier's network.
6. My best guess is that the magnet on the pouch is affecting the screen rotation.
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one thing..
for issue 3, its happening at random.. happened maybe a total of 3 times... i do not actually see a pattern as or yet..
for issue 5, i get this Microsoft error that says some process has crashed and need ask if i want to send the report to microsoft or not.. dont think this is related to carrier..
On the newest modaco .. i find the htc_ime is really laggy when texting it makes it so difficult to text sometimes ! Does anyone know any fixes for this ? Even when ive used taskiller to kill all the other tasks it is still so slow. Please don't advise better keyboard i didn't find it helpful.
wipe & reflash
I tried that .. nothing .. epic fail... do you get decent texting speed?
i had this prob with many of the 2.1 roms, a pause between typing would be seen as a long press. making texting a real ordeal
i went back to modaco 3.1
all is good now
Yes, many 2.1 ROMs have this lag, but none of the MoDaCo ROMs .. they work perfectly!
I know it sounds stupid, but are you sure you'r using MoDaCo 3.1? I have never had any lag on the ROM at all. Even the keypad/keyboard. Where as that was laggy on stock 1.5 Sense and all of the 2.1 roms. But since i flashed MoDaCo all is good.
I am possitive i am using 3.1 ... i have always had this problem its been so laggy texting like ... if i write three words it will only be half way through the first word when im finished and il be waiting and generally when you rush it gets confused and starts changing your words to weird longer ones.
thanks for the thoughts thought but keep them coming! Come on
Im using modaco 3.1 and the only time mine ever gets laggy which is very rare is when my wifi is on. Otherwise texting runs like a dream or hero excuse the pun. I have read by turning the "vibrate when typing" off in the settings helps supposedly to speed it up a little. Otherwise i recommend like others before me, to do a full wipe and reflash also backup any important files you need to keep i.e nandroid etc that u have on the sd card and format it. Also wipe ext 2 or ext 3 if you are using it. As I had to after installing 3.1 as i found it a bit laggy in areas. Good luck.
completely removed ext partition remade it installed rom and still same lag... havent even put old stuff back on simcard..
Try this, install and use Advanced Task Killer there's a free version in android Market. Maybe you have an app that is hogging all your cpu just kill that app and try your texting. Although you shouldn't have since u wiped. Unless u installed any apps after that. If no joy hopefully one of the experienced devs could help you. Hope you get it sorted.
Tried taskiller aswell as that one damn..
You're not alone! I too suffer from obscene lag when texting at times (running MCR 3.1). I can type 6 or 7 words before the first is displayed and then watch them slowly appear. I also suffer from typing a word and it'll either be in all caps or the first few letters will be caps and the rest lower case. Oh and it can take forever and a day to actually open a message or flick between them with the widget.
I have two solutions when this happens to me, first off is reboot the phone, that quite often solves the issue, at least for a while. The second solution is to delete some messages. It seems the more messages you have, the slower the messaging app reacts. I deleted just over 1400 messages this morning and seem to have gone back up to full speed.
One other thing to note, if you are receiving / have just received or are sending / just sent a message, the app will be quite slow, or at least it is for me.
Florida.
tried deleting all the messages etc i think its the HTC_IME itself and not the messages... anyone know anything about that?
i encountered typing to be a little laggy, found that the phone is low on resources. something is running at background causing the usage to be 99% but i can't find any apps doing that (btw, im using smart monitor). typing also lag in ak notepad
when i go online, everything seems back normal. it seems that the phone is running some update or trying to... after going online, the lag is gone
the lag will happen again after every phone reboot
Any developers know anything ?
I'm currently using an EnergyROM w/ Sense 2.5 on my Touch Pro 2 and am happy with everything so far, however my only let down with Windows Mobile is the types of applications made available for it.
I'm wondering whether it's worth me installing Android on my phone for the sake of having better quality applications and games?
Or is it still too early in development for something like that? I remember awhile back people were saying the sound wasn't working.
As far as Android go and whether its worth installing really depends on what type of apps you need. The sound is still not working on the external speaker at the moment as well as some other functions. With your current Windows build you are using, it will still be there. Android is installed on the external storage card. You can switch back after running Android by doing a soft reset.
Actually you dont need to even soft reset (well not with the stylus anyway), just hold down the lower right button and it will ask you to power down? then it starts back up in WM
Some people are using it as their main operating system but I just 'Play' with it. As mentioned ring tones etc is not working yet.
Mayflix said:
As far as Android go and whether its worth installing really depends on what type of apps you need. The sound is still not working on the external speaker at the moment as well as some other functions. With your current Windows build you are using, it will still be there. Android is installed on the sim card. You can switch back after running Android by doing a soft reset.
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I think he actually means the external storage card. It doesn't hurt to try it out to see if it's something you'll like. You can always go back to WinMo by soft resetting your device.
if android worked as well on my touch pro 2 as well as it does on my touch pro, i would be using it as my daily driver. sound doesnt work, power management doesnt really work, but the apps are good and with sense its very pretty, and i feel i can jump in and play games and stuff without having to worry about not having a phone since it can still make calls are send texts. if the camera, sound, gps where working, and the battery could last for more than 2 hours, i would have no reason to go back into windows really. hopefully the touch pro 3 will be android or something. if just for getting sense on 2.1 in landscape.
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if the battery could last for more than 2 hours
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20+ hours standby with push email is WAY longer than 2 hours....
Besides, REAL tech flashing geeks wouldn't need to ask this question. Its a matter of trying it yourself, and coming to an educated conclusion on whether or not its worth it for YOU.
As started before it really comes down to teh apps you need. I been trying out android on my TP and besides the inaccurate battery meter its actually pretty good. I haven't made the ful switch over yet since I haven't found replacements to all my apps on WinMo but definitely found some good additions on android. Just tried it out for a while loading off the SD card and see how you like it.
Once they get TomTom on Android and that little app that transfers all sounds to your bluetooth headset in wm is when Android will become my prefered choice of OS. I like the idea of beeing able to "Dual Boot" back and forth from WM and Android. I would be completely OK with it if everything worked just using Haret.
As of right now personally I'm not satisfied with android on the tp2 as I was on the Kaiser but if they got that far on a 3+ year old device why not on the Tp2? I'm just hoping no one gives up on it.
starmena said:
Once they get TomTom on Android and that little app that transfers all sounds to your bluetooth headset in wm is when Android will become my prefered choice of OS. I like the idea of beeing able to "Dual Boot" back and forth from WM and Android. I would be completely OK with it if everything worked just using Haret.
As of right now personally I'm not satisfied with android on the tp2 as I was on the Kaiser but if they got that far on a 3+ year old device why not on the Tp2? I'm just hoping no one gives up on it.
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Tomtom!?? Screw tomtom! Google maps navigator!!!!
I've used tomtom since my early days using palm phones. I love the ap but google maps make it look obsolete. Once they get the GPS working on our phones I'll probably start using the android WAY way more.
Here are the apps I MUST HAVE to switch 100%
1. calendar exchange - need to know when to get to meetings
2. google market - after download and before install with 2.38gb free on storage and hundreds of mb free on device get not enough storage error. need this to install google voice for free calls.
3. way to get repeating reminders and sms alerts. need to get to meetings or know when I have to call in for something.
4. wireless router app.
5. evernote - haven't checked it prob an app for it.
6. quick upcoming appts view and weather conditions with wind and number of unread messages for each account on home page.
I can reboot for music if needed.
Thanks guys for all your comments.
I decided to run the AOSP 2.1 as I heard Sense UI version causes a few issues.
Everything looks pretty normal, only that unfortunately most of the apps I want to run are not found in the market. (I've heard that developers filter apps based on phone model, locale or features)
The big issue for me is battery life.
I can charge the phone no problem but it always stays at 62% and the battery drains very quickly.
Games-wise: I tried to install a "3D" if you can call it that game called 'Replica Island' and couldn't even run it as it was too laggy, didn't even get past the intro stage. All the other simpler games I have had no problem with. I also installed Scummvm with a plugin/game but don't know where it was saved to on the SD. Most likely that will lag too as it did even in WinMo.
My issues so far:
Cannot get Gen Y Dualboot to work, it just says that Android cannot be found. (When installing Android I used the .rar version not .cab)
Can't get sound to work via earphones. It says "(in call mic and earpiece work)" Does that mean it only works if someone calls me?
Overall user experience in Android is much better than WinMo. In Windows mobile, I have to click many times to get to wanted app or menu entry, while I usually clicks once or twice to get there.
One big thing for me is Google Voice integration. My folks uses phone card from Rebtel to call relatives overseas. Their fingers aren't usually fast enough for Rebtel to accept all digits. Google voice eliminated all the hassle and steps of using phone card. I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE IT!!
I really like it and wish they would fix the sound and 3d so that you can run games.... I use it for testing only for now.
No sound, still ?!? Not worth it as a phone device. A play device yes, thats about it. Winmo for me I get to all my apps and prog in just one or two clicks. Learn to use your quicklinks.
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I'm currently using an EnergyROM w/ Sense 2.5 on my Touch Pro 2 and am happy with everything so far, however my only let down with Windows Mobile is the types of applications made available for it.
I'm wondering whether it's worth me installing Android on my phone for the sake of having better quality applications and games?
Or is it still too early in development for something like that? I remember awhile back people were saying the sound wasn't working.
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Well, it's fun to play with for 10 minutes, but without working sound it's still pretty useless.
And I'm beginning to think the lack of sound problem will never be resolved
I'm beginning to think the lack of sound problem will never be resolved
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Don't lose faith. It takes time because the developers have to go through extensive testing to make sure the features will work properly.
They are most likely focusing on improving the battery life first before they finish porting the other features, because what good is it having sound when the battery drains within 30-60 minutes.
I thought the battery is fine, it's just the readings/meter that is inaccurate
Wish it's not running in software emulation mode too though..it's a bit "laggy" to my taste
ilabstudios said:
Don't lose faith. It takes time because the developers have to go through extensive testing to make sure the features will work properly.
They are most likely focusing on improving the battery life first before they finish porting the other features, because what good is it having sound when the battery drains within 30-60 minutes.
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20+ hours of standby with push email running is NOT 30-60 minutes. The battery IS fine, its just the meter that needs work. Charging even works now.
michaelra said:
I thought the battery is fine, it's just the readings/meter that is inaccurate
Wish it's not running in software emulation mode too though..it's a bit "laggy" to my taste
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Just FYI, it's not emulated, HaRET unloads Windows Mobile and then loads Linux (and eventually Android) like a bootloader. Like Loadlin, if you know what that was. The slowness results from a lack of hardware OpenGL coupled with the fact that the Rhodium is a WVGA device running on an underpowered MSM7xxx chipset. While that lag can be improved upon with proper GPU support and some performance optimizations (and even a little overclocking), this device will never be as fast running Android as the Nexus One, or the Hero, or most other native Android devices.
The touch pro 2 uses the same (or very similar) processor as the Hero, correct? I guess the big "problem" going forward for the TP2 is the higher resolution screen. Even if HW support for graphics rendering comes to fruition for Android on the TP2, the processor will likely be the "bottleneck" in regards to performance..
I just flashed my Kaiser with Fat Free Froyo RLS5. I really like the Android OS, but the lack of functionality is bothersome. I can't type into the Google search bar that is on the desktop, the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor. I've only been using it for about an hour and already found all these problems so I can image that there are more.
All I am looking for it a version of Android that will allow me to use the camera, browse my SD card from my PC, and has a working WiFi. Speed is also a concern.
If I could get some suggestions I would be appreciative.
Thank you.
lemminman said:
I just flashed my Kaiser with Fat Free Froyo RLS5. I really like the Android OS, but the lack of functionality is bothersome. I can't type into the Google search bar that is on the desktop, the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor. I've only been using it for about an hour and already found all these problems so I can image that there are more.
All I am looking for it a version of Android that will allow me to use the camera, browse my SD card from my PC, and has a working WiFi. Speed is also a concern.
If I could get some suggestions I would be appreciative.
Thank you.
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Camera not working is related to your kernel/radio rom. Also you could use not so super froyo if you want the same with more features. If you want more speed I suggest a Cyanogen based rom as these are the fastest currently. I suggest changing your kernel to l1qu1ds latest .32 kernel via the thread that is stickied at the top.
USB to pc is not working through my computer right now but adb is at least. What I do for data transfer is just use System on NAND and Data on SD and use a card reader for the data.
Lastly, remember that android on the Kaiser is by no means perfect and is still more or less of a thing to be like "Look what my old phone can do!" thing. If you want everything perfect then Windows mobile has that already. Otherwise if you want a cooler newer OS on your phone then its going to take a little time for us. We have come a long ways but not all the way there yet.
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I just flashed my Kaiser with Fat Free Froyo RLS5. I really like the Android OS, but the lack of functionality is bothersome. I can't type into the Google search bar that is on the desktop, the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor. I've only been using it for about an hour and already found all these problems so I can image that there are more.
All I am looking for it a version of Android that will allow me to use the camera, browse my SD card from my PC, and has a working WiFi. Speed is also a concern.
If I could get some suggestions I would be appreciative.
Thank you.
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the search bar will work if you download google search from the market, it was removed since it can be installed from the market, fat free is fully functional you just have to work to get it going out of the gate, now in contrast not so super froyo is ready to go from the get go
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the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor.
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I am using Fat Free Froyo RLS5 and all that stuff works for me.
USB to PC works perfectly in linux It works for me on windows 7 too, but you just have to wait a long time (maybe 2-5 mins) for the computer to recognise it.
To change the alarm volume just roll the jog wheel while in that menu (or press whatever buttons you have assigned to volume up/down)
Thanks for the help, guys.
I suggest changing your kernel to l1qu1ds latest .32 kernel via the thread that is stickied at the top
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That is the kernel I have. My radio is version 1.65 something.
What I do for data transfer is just use System on NAND and Data on SD and use a card reader for the data.
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I don't have a card reader; that is why this is important to me. Are there any Android versions that this works, or an app that I can install even?
Lastly, remember that android on the Kaiser is by no means perfect [...]
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The only reason I don't want WMP is because it is ridiculously slow to respond. I had heard that Android was much faster so I am giving it a try.
the search bar will work if you download google search from the market
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That part really isn't a big deal; I probably would never even use it. It was just one of the many small glitches I was noticing during normal use. Things like there being no way to bring the phone back from sleeping except the power button (not even opening it!). At one point, when it is just sitting on my desk, the screen turned white and the phone was completely unresponsive. I had to hard reset it. They keyboard works except when dialing a number where it seems completely random.
If there is a workaround to these things, I'm fine with doing some personalizing, but if not, I would like to know if there are flavors that don't have these kinds of issues.
I think I will try Cyanogen like you suggested and see if I like it any better.
Thanks again for the help.
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Thanks for the help, guys.
That is the kernel I have. My radio is version 1.65 something.
I don't have a card reader; that is why this is important to me. Are there any Android versions that this works, or an app that I can install even?
The only reason I don't want WMP is because it is ridiculously slow to respond. I had heard that Android was much faster so I am giving it a try.
That part really isn't a big deal; I probably would never even use it. It was just one of the many small glitches I was noticing during normal use. Things like there being no way to bring the phone back from sleeping except the power button (not even opening it!). At one point, when it is just sitting on my desk, the screen turned white and the phone was completely unresponsive. I had to hard reset it. They keyboard works except when dialing a number where it seems completely random.
If there is a workaround to these things, I'm fine with doing some personalizing, but if not, I would like to know if there are flavors that don't have these kinds of issues.
I think I will try Cyanogen like you suggested and see if I like it any better.
Thanks again for the help.
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the white screen is a known issue apparently overclocking improves this
White screen is present when the system didn't draw the screen before it power up.
When you overclock the system is faster so it spend less time to draw the interface.
Sometimes you have with screen when the system sleep but it can't resume because the main app crashes.
To change the alarm volume just roll the jog wheel while in that menu
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This changes "Ring volume" regardless of what I have opened.
Thanks for all the input, everyone.
I have tried four different Android builds now and I haven't gotten a USB data connection with any of them. I noticed that one of them had a Network option, as though I might be able to browse files of computers on the network which would solve my problem. Unfortunately, that particular build just says "Error" when I try to turn WiFi on.
Is there an android app I can install that will allow me to transfer files between my phone and a PC? That is really the number one priority right now. To test these Android builds I have been reverting back to WMP every time I want to try a different one because I need to put the androidinstall.tar onto my card. I tried loading a bunch of different ones on the card to avoid this, but I get "Permission denied" when I try to rename a file in the andboot folder.
Thanks again.
The forum search tool will answer all those questions I know I have answered it atleast 500000 times
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I have a kaiser with froyo kernel 2.6.32 date 9.9.2010 I have overclocked with atools to 500 mhz and also overclocked the GPU, battery is standard setting. My radio is Neon 1.65.24.36 Together with thoughtlesskyle`s (thank you!!) fat free release 5, i have a very stable situation here. I have to admit i am not a heavy user. Merely phonecalls and sms (or whatsup) and sygic navigation software . I only have to reboot once a week. I am not sure why, maybe because i use cachemate once a while.
For connection between pc and kaiser i use SD Share Dual Mount. It works perfectly. I had flashed the latest kernel(s) of l1q1d because of the alleged stable reboots. I am sad that i did not have stable reboots, it got stuck and i had to reinstall my apk`s again. And most important for me, the SD Share did not work with the latest kernel(s), thats why i reverted back to the 9.9.2010 one.
As for the white screen, it only happens to me if my kaiser goes asleep and i awake it immediately. If i take some seconds between asleep and awakening, it`s okay.
I have to thank many people here to be able to use my kaiser like i bought it yesterday or so. Maybe someone can try my settings and profit from it, like i do.
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I have a kaiser with froyo kernel 2.6.32 date 9.9.2010 I have overclocked with atools to 500 mhz and also overclocked the GPU, battery is standard setting. My radio is Neon 1.65.24.36 Together with thoughtlesskyle`s (thank you!!) fat free release 5, i have a very stable situation here. I have to admit i am not a heavy user. Merely phonecalls and sms (or whatsup) and sygic navigation software . I only have to reboot once a week. I am not sure why, maybe because i use cachemate once a while.
For connection between pc and kaiser i use SD Share Dual Mount. It works perfectly. I had flashed the latest kernel(s) of l1q1d because of the alleged stable reboots. I am sad that i did not have stable reboots, it got stuck and i had to reinstall my apk`s again. And most important for me, the SD Share did not work with the latest kernel(s), thats why i reverted back to the 9.9.2010 one.
As for the white screen, it only happens to me if my kaiser goes asleep and i awake it immediately. If i take some seconds between asleep and awakening, it`s okay.
I have to thank many people here to be able to use my kaiser like i bought it yesterday or so. Maybe someone can try my settings and profit from it, like i do.
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Well at least the white screen is being worked on, see the thread I made.
Hello all, First, I searched the forums for my answer with no such luck, that being said if Im repeating a question thats been asked I apologize. I have a problem with keeping android stable. I have flashed with different versions of windows several times all with success. I do however, prefer the android system, I find that it runs much better, faster and has better perks. Everytime I flash following the original how to, I run in to a couple similar problems.
The first is when I hit the power (not hold the power) the back light cuts off and the keyguard enables, the screen goes dark all as it should. Depending on the time ( the longer it is the worse it is) when I hit the power key to revive my phone, I often get a white screen, then it waits , then it goes dim, Sometimes If I hit the power button several times it eventually comes back to the key guard option, but others I have to remove the battery and reboot. This is the major problem, as I cant use my phone when I need it. This problem seems to get worse the farther it gets away from the flash date, e.g..,, after a brand new flash it works pretty good and then it goes downhill from there.
Second, it seems to lock up when I let it charge overnight, not always (but most of the time) I get up, click the power button to revive the phone and I have a white screen before me that is frozen solid. This like the previous problem seems to be linked to the distance from the last flash.
I hope that its something Im doing wrong, as Im currently using wmobile 6.5 and since Ive had a taste of the droid os, my wm phone is just disappointing. And as I was unsuccessful in finding a post that adequately describes my problem ,Im hoping that there is a way around this .
I have tried, Incubus Superfroyo, Wrym warm donut, and Cyanogens build. Im sure Ive tried others, they just escape me, I was re-flashing daily until I went back to windows. I truly hope someone out there has encountered what I have and has a solution. thank you all for what you do, these forums have been extremely valuable and helpful.
Sounds like you have the wrong panel type selected. Is it set to auto? if it is, try setting it to 2 instead. That cleared up the problem for me.
Tried all panels all have the same problem.
Well thanks for all the many replies. I give Ive tried everything on this site and m android is still really glitchy. Guess it will be windows until I get perhaps a phone capable of running android smoothly.
What kind of phone do you have?
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do you have an SD card you can try to boot from and share your settings?
What we need to know is which kernel you're using, or an image of the kernel you currently have. Also, we need to know which radio version you're using, as this can have detremental effects on stability as well.
Personally, I have been using radio version 1.70.19.09, which seems to be the most stable with kernel .25 IMHO.
I have also "personalized" ThoughtlessKyle's "Fat-Free Froyo", adding/removing apps that I need or don't use respectively (navigation, QQPlayer, Pandora, etc.).
Currently, I think I might be one of the only people not experiencing any issues with this phone running Android 2.2.1. I do get the occasional "hang" (I wait for it to finish what it's doing instead of force close), but that usually has something to do with network coverage or an app requesting something from an unopened port.
Old phone, new OS and runs smooth as could be expected.
Next for me will be the HTC HD2 (if I get one at the right price, the tilt was free)...
I know, I know that MANY PEOPLE THINK OF THE WAKE UP WHITE JIBBERISH SCREEN as NEVER WORKING.
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What we need to know is which kernel you're using, or an image of the kernel you currently have. Also, we need to know which radio version you're using, as this can have detremental effects on stability as well.
Personally, I have been using radio version 1.70.19.09, which seems to be the most stable with kernel .25 IMHO.
I have also "personalized" ThoughtlessKyle's "Fat-Free Froyo", adding/removing apps that I need or don't use respectively (navigation, QQPlayer, Pandora, etc.).
Currently, I think I might be one of the only people not experiencing any issues with this phone running Android 2.2.1. I do get the occasional "hang" (I wait for it to finish what it's doing instead of force close), but that usually has something to do with network coverage or an app requesting something from an unopened port.
Old phone, new OS and runs smooth as could be expected.
Next for me will be the HTC HD2 (if I get one at the right price, the tilt was free)...
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Ill try that combination and post my results. The latest I tried was
Scoot CyanogenMod 6.1.2 RLS6 with 2.6.32 still no joy, white screen crashes and hang ups. and it seems progressively worse the longer the rom is on the phone. To whomever asked what phone I have, its the at&t tilt II
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Ill try that combination and post my results. The latest I tried was
Scoot CyanogenMod 6.1.2 RLS6 with 2.6.32 still no joy, white screen crashes and hang ups. and it seems progressively worse the longer the rom is on the phone. To whomever asked what phone I have, its the at&t tilt II
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I can't help you regarding panel selection but, please have Radio ROM version 1.65 or higher. And do give my fresh foryo a go with 2.6.25 kernel (everything is there in the thread on how to use it with 2.6.25 kernel).
the WHITE GLITCHY SCREEN IS THE PROBLEM WITH ANDROID DRIVERS. Install with Data on SD Card often causes lockups / force closes.
I am using panel type 1 and white glitchy screen stays for like half of a second and next moment I get a nice clean keylock screen. I don't know but its like 20th time I am explaining the problem related to LCD
Change Panel Type, Get a compatible Radio version (1.65.x or HIGHER)
You say that often install with data on the sd card causes lock ups and freezes. Can you explain further what you mean ?
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I can't help you regarding panel selection but, please have Radio ROM version 1.65 or higher. And do give my fresh foryo a go with 2.6.25 kernel (everything is there in the thread on how to use it with 2.6.25 kernel).
the WHITE GLITCHY SCREEN IS THE PROBLEM WITH ANDROID DRIVERS. Install with Data on SD Card often causes lockups / force closes.
I am using panel type 1 and white glitchy screen stays for like half of a second and next moment I get a nice clean keylock screen. I don't know but its like 20th time I am explaining the problem related to LCD
Change Panel Type, Get a compatible Radio version (1.65.x or HIGHER)
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Ok, so I installed your version of froyo, the accompanying 2.6.25, the radio that you use. For the most part the hanging up is fixed. Now the second problem is still in place. Sometimes when Its been in hibernation(or whatever you would call when you hit the power button once ) when I attempt to refresh my phone (hitting the power button once) nothing happens, the green light is still blinking at the top but the screen stays blank, normally have to remove the battery and restart to get back to using the phone. Is this a sleep setting? or is this something Ive done wrong during the installation.