Hello all, First, I searched the forums for my answer with no such luck, that being said if Im repeating a question thats been asked I apologize. I have a problem with keeping android stable. I have flashed with different versions of windows several times all with success. I do however, prefer the android system, I find that it runs much better, faster and has better perks. Everytime I flash following the original how to, I run in to a couple similar problems.
The first is when I hit the power (not hold the power) the back light cuts off and the keyguard enables, the screen goes dark all as it should. Depending on the time ( the longer it is the worse it is) when I hit the power key to revive my phone, I often get a white screen, then it waits , then it goes dim, Sometimes If I hit the power button several times it eventually comes back to the key guard option, but others I have to remove the battery and reboot. This is the major problem, as I cant use my phone when I need it. This problem seems to get worse the farther it gets away from the flash date, e.g..,, after a brand new flash it works pretty good and then it goes downhill from there.
Second, it seems to lock up when I let it charge overnight, not always (but most of the time) I get up, click the power button to revive the phone and I have a white screen before me that is frozen solid. This like the previous problem seems to be linked to the distance from the last flash.
I hope that its something Im doing wrong, as Im currently using wmobile 6.5 and since Ive had a taste of the droid os, my wm phone is just disappointing. And as I was unsuccessful in finding a post that adequately describes my problem ,Im hoping that there is a way around this .
I have tried, Incubus Superfroyo, Wrym warm donut, and Cyanogens build. Im sure Ive tried others, they just escape me, I was re-flashing daily until I went back to windows. I truly hope someone out there has encountered what I have and has a solution. thank you all for what you do, these forums have been extremely valuable and helpful.
Sounds like you have the wrong panel type selected. Is it set to auto? if it is, try setting it to 2 instead. That cleared up the problem for me.
Tried all panels all have the same problem.
Well thanks for all the many replies. I give Ive tried everything on this site and m android is still really glitchy. Guess it will be windows until I get perhaps a phone capable of running android smoothly.
What kind of phone do you have?
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do you have an SD card you can try to boot from and share your settings?
What we need to know is which kernel you're using, or an image of the kernel you currently have. Also, we need to know which radio version you're using, as this can have detremental effects on stability as well.
Personally, I have been using radio version 1.70.19.09, which seems to be the most stable with kernel .25 IMHO.
I have also "personalized" ThoughtlessKyle's "Fat-Free Froyo", adding/removing apps that I need or don't use respectively (navigation, QQPlayer, Pandora, etc.).
Currently, I think I might be one of the only people not experiencing any issues with this phone running Android 2.2.1. I do get the occasional "hang" (I wait for it to finish what it's doing instead of force close), but that usually has something to do with network coverage or an app requesting something from an unopened port.
Old phone, new OS and runs smooth as could be expected.
Next for me will be the HTC HD2 (if I get one at the right price, the tilt was free)...
I know, I know that MANY PEOPLE THINK OF THE WAKE UP WHITE JIBBERISH SCREEN as NEVER WORKING.
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What we need to know is which kernel you're using, or an image of the kernel you currently have. Also, we need to know which radio version you're using, as this can have detremental effects on stability as well.
Personally, I have been using radio version 1.70.19.09, which seems to be the most stable with kernel .25 IMHO.
I have also "personalized" ThoughtlessKyle's "Fat-Free Froyo", adding/removing apps that I need or don't use respectively (navigation, QQPlayer, Pandora, etc.).
Currently, I think I might be one of the only people not experiencing any issues with this phone running Android 2.2.1. I do get the occasional "hang" (I wait for it to finish what it's doing instead of force close), but that usually has something to do with network coverage or an app requesting something from an unopened port.
Old phone, new OS and runs smooth as could be expected.
Next for me will be the HTC HD2 (if I get one at the right price, the tilt was free)...
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Ill try that combination and post my results. The latest I tried was
Scoot CyanogenMod 6.1.2 RLS6 with 2.6.32 still no joy, white screen crashes and hang ups. and it seems progressively worse the longer the rom is on the phone. To whomever asked what phone I have, its the at&t tilt II
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Ill try that combination and post my results. The latest I tried was
Scoot CyanogenMod 6.1.2 RLS6 with 2.6.32 still no joy, white screen crashes and hang ups. and it seems progressively worse the longer the rom is on the phone. To whomever asked what phone I have, its the at&t tilt II
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I can't help you regarding panel selection but, please have Radio ROM version 1.65 or higher. And do give my fresh foryo a go with 2.6.25 kernel (everything is there in the thread on how to use it with 2.6.25 kernel).
the WHITE GLITCHY SCREEN IS THE PROBLEM WITH ANDROID DRIVERS. Install with Data on SD Card often causes lockups / force closes.
I am using panel type 1 and white glitchy screen stays for like half of a second and next moment I get a nice clean keylock screen. I don't know but its like 20th time I am explaining the problem related to LCD
Change Panel Type, Get a compatible Radio version (1.65.x or HIGHER)
You say that often install with data on the sd card causes lock ups and freezes. Can you explain further what you mean ?
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I can't help you regarding panel selection but, please have Radio ROM version 1.65 or higher. And do give my fresh foryo a go with 2.6.25 kernel (everything is there in the thread on how to use it with 2.6.25 kernel).
the WHITE GLITCHY SCREEN IS THE PROBLEM WITH ANDROID DRIVERS. Install with Data on SD Card often causes lockups / force closes.
I am using panel type 1 and white glitchy screen stays for like half of a second and next moment I get a nice clean keylock screen. I don't know but its like 20th time I am explaining the problem related to LCD
Change Panel Type, Get a compatible Radio version (1.65.x or HIGHER)
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Ok, so I installed your version of froyo, the accompanying 2.6.25, the radio that you use. For the most part the hanging up is fixed. Now the second problem is still in place. Sometimes when Its been in hibernation(or whatever you would call when you hit the power button once ) when I attempt to refresh my phone (hitting the power button once) nothing happens, the green light is still blinking at the top but the screen stays blank, normally have to remove the battery and restart to get back to using the phone. Is this a sleep setting? or is this something Ive done wrong during the installation.
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I just flashed my Kaiser with Fat Free Froyo RLS5. I really like the Android OS, but the lack of functionality is bothersome. I can't type into the Google search bar that is on the desktop, the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor. I've only been using it for about an hour and already found all these problems so I can image that there are more.
All I am looking for it a version of Android that will allow me to use the camera, browse my SD card from my PC, and has a working WiFi. Speed is also a concern.
If I could get some suggestions I would be appreciative.
Thank you.
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I just flashed my Kaiser with Fat Free Froyo RLS5. I really like the Android OS, but the lack of functionality is bothersome. I can't type into the Google search bar that is on the desktop, the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor. I've only been using it for about an hour and already found all these problems so I can image that there are more.
All I am looking for it a version of Android that will allow me to use the camera, browse my SD card from my PC, and has a working WiFi. Speed is also a concern.
If I could get some suggestions I would be appreciative.
Thank you.
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Camera not working is related to your kernel/radio rom. Also you could use not so super froyo if you want the same with more features. If you want more speed I suggest a Cyanogen based rom as these are the fastest currently. I suggest changing your kernel to l1qu1ds latest .32 kernel via the thread that is stickied at the top.
USB to pc is not working through my computer right now but adb is at least. What I do for data transfer is just use System on NAND and Data on SD and use a card reader for the data.
Lastly, remember that android on the Kaiser is by no means perfect and is still more or less of a thing to be like "Look what my old phone can do!" thing. If you want everything perfect then Windows mobile has that already. Otherwise if you want a cooler newer OS on your phone then its going to take a little time for us. We have come a long ways but not all the way there yet.
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I just flashed my Kaiser with Fat Free Froyo RLS5. I really like the Android OS, but the lack of functionality is bothersome. I can't type into the Google search bar that is on the desktop, the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor. I've only been using it for about an hour and already found all these problems so I can image that there are more.
All I am looking for it a version of Android that will allow me to use the camera, browse my SD card from my PC, and has a working WiFi. Speed is also a concern.
If I could get some suggestions I would be appreciative.
Thank you.
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the search bar will work if you download google search from the market, it was removed since it can be installed from the market, fat free is fully functional you just have to work to get it going out of the gate, now in contrast not so super froyo is ready to go from the get go
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the camera doesn't work and, worst of all, the USB to PC data connection is inoperable. These things along with some other minor things like the fact that I can't change the volume of the alarm clock make me want to try a different flavor.
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I am using Fat Free Froyo RLS5 and all that stuff works for me.
USB to PC works perfectly in linux It works for me on windows 7 too, but you just have to wait a long time (maybe 2-5 mins) for the computer to recognise it.
To change the alarm volume just roll the jog wheel while in that menu (or press whatever buttons you have assigned to volume up/down)
Thanks for the help, guys.
I suggest changing your kernel to l1qu1ds latest .32 kernel via the thread that is stickied at the top
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That is the kernel I have. My radio is version 1.65 something.
What I do for data transfer is just use System on NAND and Data on SD and use a card reader for the data.
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I don't have a card reader; that is why this is important to me. Are there any Android versions that this works, or an app that I can install even?
Lastly, remember that android on the Kaiser is by no means perfect [...]
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The only reason I don't want WMP is because it is ridiculously slow to respond. I had heard that Android was much faster so I am giving it a try.
the search bar will work if you download google search from the market
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That part really isn't a big deal; I probably would never even use it. It was just one of the many small glitches I was noticing during normal use. Things like there being no way to bring the phone back from sleeping except the power button (not even opening it!). At one point, when it is just sitting on my desk, the screen turned white and the phone was completely unresponsive. I had to hard reset it. They keyboard works except when dialing a number where it seems completely random.
If there is a workaround to these things, I'm fine with doing some personalizing, but if not, I would like to know if there are flavors that don't have these kinds of issues.
I think I will try Cyanogen like you suggested and see if I like it any better.
Thanks again for the help.
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Thanks for the help, guys.
That is the kernel I have. My radio is version 1.65 something.
I don't have a card reader; that is why this is important to me. Are there any Android versions that this works, or an app that I can install even?
The only reason I don't want WMP is because it is ridiculously slow to respond. I had heard that Android was much faster so I am giving it a try.
That part really isn't a big deal; I probably would never even use it. It was just one of the many small glitches I was noticing during normal use. Things like there being no way to bring the phone back from sleeping except the power button (not even opening it!). At one point, when it is just sitting on my desk, the screen turned white and the phone was completely unresponsive. I had to hard reset it. They keyboard works except when dialing a number where it seems completely random.
If there is a workaround to these things, I'm fine with doing some personalizing, but if not, I would like to know if there are flavors that don't have these kinds of issues.
I think I will try Cyanogen like you suggested and see if I like it any better.
Thanks again for the help.
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the white screen is a known issue apparently overclocking improves this
White screen is present when the system didn't draw the screen before it power up.
When you overclock the system is faster so it spend less time to draw the interface.
Sometimes you have with screen when the system sleep but it can't resume because the main app crashes.
To change the alarm volume just roll the jog wheel while in that menu
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This changes "Ring volume" regardless of what I have opened.
Thanks for all the input, everyone.
I have tried four different Android builds now and I haven't gotten a USB data connection with any of them. I noticed that one of them had a Network option, as though I might be able to browse files of computers on the network which would solve my problem. Unfortunately, that particular build just says "Error" when I try to turn WiFi on.
Is there an android app I can install that will allow me to transfer files between my phone and a PC? That is really the number one priority right now. To test these Android builds I have been reverting back to WMP every time I want to try a different one because I need to put the androidinstall.tar onto my card. I tried loading a bunch of different ones on the card to avoid this, but I get "Permission denied" when I try to rename a file in the andboot folder.
Thanks again.
The forum search tool will answer all those questions I know I have answered it atleast 500000 times
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I have a kaiser with froyo kernel 2.6.32 date 9.9.2010 I have overclocked with atools to 500 mhz and also overclocked the GPU, battery is standard setting. My radio is Neon 1.65.24.36 Together with thoughtlesskyle`s (thank you!!) fat free release 5, i have a very stable situation here. I have to admit i am not a heavy user. Merely phonecalls and sms (or whatsup) and sygic navigation software . I only have to reboot once a week. I am not sure why, maybe because i use cachemate once a while.
For connection between pc and kaiser i use SD Share Dual Mount. It works perfectly. I had flashed the latest kernel(s) of l1q1d because of the alleged stable reboots. I am sad that i did not have stable reboots, it got stuck and i had to reinstall my apk`s again. And most important for me, the SD Share did not work with the latest kernel(s), thats why i reverted back to the 9.9.2010 one.
As for the white screen, it only happens to me if my kaiser goes asleep and i awake it immediately. If i take some seconds between asleep and awakening, it`s okay.
I have to thank many people here to be able to use my kaiser like i bought it yesterday or so. Maybe someone can try my settings and profit from it, like i do.
Shayer said:
I have a kaiser with froyo kernel 2.6.32 date 9.9.2010 I have overclocked with atools to 500 mhz and also overclocked the GPU, battery is standard setting. My radio is Neon 1.65.24.36 Together with thoughtlesskyle`s (thank you!!) fat free release 5, i have a very stable situation here. I have to admit i am not a heavy user. Merely phonecalls and sms (or whatsup) and sygic navigation software . I only have to reboot once a week. I am not sure why, maybe because i use cachemate once a while.
For connection between pc and kaiser i use SD Share Dual Mount. It works perfectly. I had flashed the latest kernel(s) of l1q1d because of the alleged stable reboots. I am sad that i did not have stable reboots, it got stuck and i had to reinstall my apk`s again. And most important for me, the SD Share did not work with the latest kernel(s), thats why i reverted back to the 9.9.2010 one.
As for the white screen, it only happens to me if my kaiser goes asleep and i awake it immediately. If i take some seconds between asleep and awakening, it`s okay.
I have to thank many people here to be able to use my kaiser like i bought it yesterday or so. Maybe someone can try my settings and profit from it, like i do.
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Well at least the white screen is being worked on, see the thread I made.
I reinstalled my android build over and over and tried various builds (not so super and incubus super froyo) both have the same effect, if i have the phone inside my jeans, it sometimes wont awake the screen and it just stays off,....
sometimes i can still controll the touchscreen and unlock and putt phone off.
but else i am doomed to push the reset button..
does anyone have the same sleep crash error, or am i the only one tytnII and android user and is it just a phoneissue?
i hope some1 could help me since it aint stable enough to use as a mobile phone (if the phone really crashes and i cant control phone inside "sleep" or screen off crash, i am not available for calls or smses..)
logcat logfile is here:
http://jhonnie.nl/screenoff.txt
i'm afraid it sometimes really crashes, since i am not available for phonecalls of sms messages.
maybe it has to do something with button pushes since i dont have much problems when the phone is left to my desk.
get radio version 1.65.x or higher. Get a kernel with different panel settings
radio rom is 1.71.09.01.. and just tried panel 2, panel 1 has "loose pixels" and always had paneltype auto....
any other options?
jhonniedj said:
radio rom is 1.71.09.01.. and just tried panel 2, panel 1 has "loose pixels" and always had paneltype auto....
any other options?
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Try downgrading your radio to a 1.65.xx.xx brand. I'm running 1.65.21.18, and have had very minor (about 1% of the time) crashes while phone sleeps.
Tried all 3 panels now, without succes, all 4 failed (1,2,3,auto) and still left me with a black screen of death, trying new radio now...
i'll let you guys know,..
using the incubus rs16 super froyo,.. hope this doesnt have any effect the bsod error
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Tried all 3 panels now, without succes, all 4 failed (1,2,3,auto) and still left me with a black screen of death, trying new radio now...
i'll let you guys know,..
using the incubus rs16 super froyo,.. hope this doesnt have any effect the bsod error
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Tried multiple radios, now notsosuper rs18 wont work with radio :|
and tried incubus, wich had data, but was not stable enough to keep the phone from crashing....
trying old myn warm donut, and hoping that will work...
Tried various things, but doenst look like the change of panel helped, and also tries 3-4 versions of radio rom, and tried full install to windows mobile to "clean" anything left.
and when i install clean of Not-So-Super-Froyo, it had the most stability, modpack with essential kernel files, wern't needed and, leaving them untouched had more stabiliy then modded androidinstall.tar file..
Has anyone has more updates or can help me with this, because phone crashes, reboots and is stuck sometimes with screen left off... i don't think i am mobile enough to keep my phone to android, and i'm considering going back to windows mobile..
-Looks like it could have something to do with touching buttons since when i leave it in my jeans, it crashes much more when i leave it on my desk (where it doenst crash mutch or doenst crash at all)
is there anyone that has the same problems or is there some1 who doenst have any problems crashing? (since i would like to have the same configuration)
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Tried various things, but doenst look like the change of panel helped, and also tries 3-4 versions of radio rom, and tried full install to windows mobile to "clean" anything left.
and when i install clean of Not-So-Super-Froyo, it had the most stability, modpack with essential kernel files, wern't needed and, leaving them untouched had more stabiliy then modded androidinstall.tar file..
Has anyone has more updates or can help me with this, because phone crashes, reboots and is stuck sometimes with screen left off... i don't think i am mobile enough to keep my phone to android, and i'm considering going back to windows mobile..
-Looks like it could have something to do with touching buttons since when i leave it in my jeans, it crashes much more when i leave it on my desk (where it doenst crash mutch or doenst crash at all)
is there anyone that has the same problems or is there some1 who doenst have any problems crashing? (since i would like to have the same configuration)
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I assume you are on .32 kernel? All of .32 kernels gave me different troubles. Now .25 branch even though it is quite old is very stable for me and it can run for weeks without any issues.
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I assume you are on .32 kernel? All of .32 kernels gave me different troubles. Now .25 branch even though it is quite old is very stable for me and it can run for weeks without any issues.
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hmmz, that looks like wise advice, thx!
anyone tried the "2011-01-24-gingerbread" yet?
This problem only really happens after my phone has been on for days at a time. I have had this problem on the latest stable and latest nightly for CM7 (each one cleanly installed after a total wipe).
What happens is that most screens are replaced with entirely black ones. The most consistent example of this is the settings screen. The first Settings screen (which shows Display, Sound, etc) loads correctly. If I click on any of those, I just get a black screen. This will happen in other applications too, like Baconreader or Browser. Also, another connected issue is that the lockscreen won't animate once this problem starts. I can drag it down to unlock, but the rotary wheel won't move at all. If I drag to the right to load my custom app, the lockscreen won't go away and it will force my to pull the battery.
Has anyone else run into this problem? I'd just like to know I'm not alone. I'm not really expecting a bugfix, especially when I'm not even posting a Logcat.
Did you fix permissions?
midget tossing is habit...2010 midwest regional champion... hw 001
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This problem only really happens after my phone has been on for days at a time. I have had this problem on the latest stable and latest nightly for CM7 (each one cleanly installed after a total wipe).
What happens is that most screens are replaced with entirely black ones. The most consistent example of this is the settings screen. The first Settings screen (which shows Display, Sound, etc) loads correctly. If I click on any of those, I just get a black screen. This will happen in other applications too, like Baconreader or Browser. Also, another connected issue is that the lockscreen won't animate once this problem starts. I can drag it down to unlock, but the rotary wheel won't move at all. If I drag to the right to load my custom app, the lockscreen won't go away and it will force my to pull the battery.
Has anyone else run into this problem? I'd just like to know I'm not alone. I'm not really expecting a bugfix, especially when I'm not even posting a Logcat.
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I suffered this same thing today. Thankfully a full restart fixed out, but I would love to learn a real solution.
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Did you fix permissions?
midget tossing is habit...2010 midwest regional champion... hw 001
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Next time it happens I will, I'm just afraid it will break Facebook/SMS integration like I've had happen before.
It's just so weird since it breaks everything. The lockscreen, the options, Pandora's station list, the browser, and it goes on and on. It's like there's some sort of display mode that gets screwed up.
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I suffered this same thing today. Thankfully a full restart fixed out, but I would love to learn a real solution.
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What version are you using. I'm going to try to install nightly 77 today after a fresh wipe.
I was seeing the same thing. Now I'm trying to figure out why my data speeds are so painfully slow on CM7 so I can't offer a fix. Flashing back to Warm to troubleshoot 3G.
I get these issues all the time no matter what kernel or nightly I'm running. It has forced me back to sense roms lol
Same problem here. I updated stable mod from stable mod. Reinstalled. Going on 4 days, no issues so far.
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I have the same exact issue. This never happens on a sense rom. I did some tweaks to my system over the past week and I haven't had to reboot since this past Saturday or Sunday. I thought I had fixed it!
Then...
My phone started doing it this morning after I turned on 4G at work, literally as I was writing this post it started doing it. I then turned off 4G.. and it instantly went away. Turning back on 4G and it isnt doing it right now. Now my phone is doing something weird with go sms pro... when I get a text and I respond via the pop up message.. once my text moves to a second line I dont see what I am typing anymore... and now it has progressed to where the pop up box isnt refreshing after I send a message (this is all happening while I am typing this post). Now the phone has become laggy and somewhat unstable... rebooted! All is well. So I went roughly 4-5 days without a reboot... where as before I had to reboot at least once a day.
Thats about the best I can get with these settings:
CM7 7.0.3.1
Savaged Zen 2.6.38.5 CFS > Using SavagedZen Governor, min 384 max 998
Displaying some animations (read somewhere that is a "fix".. or helping extend the time it takes for the Black screen of death to appear).
This is after several full wipes, several when I was running Amon RA recovery 1.8 then updated to the latest and did it two more times. After upgrading Amon and wiping I did not use any backups and started completely from scratch.
So I am not sure what else to do. Some people are getting this, some are not.
Hello,
I got an problem on like 4 of the 5 kaisers here.
The problem is that sometimes the kaisers goes into an sleep where it doenst come out without reset.
You will get an black screen and the light of your keyboard is on and doesnt turn off. When this happens the battery goes from 100% to 0% in like 40 mins. without the problem i can use the phone for 2 days.
My question is how to solve this? I tried the following things.
- Radio 1.65, 1.70. 1.71
- 2 different hspl
- old and new kernel.
- and loads of different roms. from gingerbread to eclair.
Any solution or fix for this? because i can't use it for daily base now since when i dont notice the battery is empty of that bug.
Best Regards,
Veldmuus
That's the black screen of death. I never get that, but it's one of three problems that I have heard of. I think it might be related to going to sleep. I use the latest kernel, from git, which is pretty much identical to scooter1556's kernel with separate cache. What kernel are you using?
The second problem is the white screen of death, which I get a lot when I leave the phone on the charger. The screen is white bright, the kernel is not crashed. Sometimes Fn-Right-soft-key twice will cure this, but usually not. Some have guessed that this has something to do with the phone going to sleep not quite properly while charging. There is an option to not go to sleep while connected to a charger, and I haven't tried that option for a long time.
The third problem is a kernel crash (screen freezes, keyboard doesn't turn on LED, etc) caused by compcache (zram). Can be avoided by not using compcache.
The most annoying issue I have is that I've never figured out how to tweak the build so that apps can be installed to SD. I've been trying to change initrd so that, when installed completely on NAND, the sdcard is completely managed by vold. So far no success, and I've pretty much moved on to my newer phone (Rhodium, aka AT&T Tilt2).
I have spent the last week or so "tweaking" my build.prop file, adding lines for disabling sleep mode, 3G speed tweaks (doesn't do much yet) and fixing small compatibility issues such as AGPS/GPS not working. So far so good, no more sleep of death/black screen/white screen.
If successful, I would ask that the modified build.prop file be added to the Froyo builds on SourceForge, intergrated directly as to eliminate "end user interaction", meaning you won't have to touch it.
I am also looking into some sysinit.rc mods as well, but I haven't had much time lately.
Veldmuus, do you have a way to edit your own build.prop file such as Root Explorer, or would you have to push it to the phone via ADB?
hi, very new to all this, never had a "Smartphone" of any type, Anyway, I was given a dead Desire to play with, it would not charge, so I got it going by putting 9V across the battery for 30 seconds to kick start, then it charged nicely. But it kept crashing on loading the standard O2 firmware. When it did load the volume down seem to be stuck (it wasn't it seems though). So I rooted it for flashing.
Anyway, tried a few ROMs (BeanStalk 4.4.255, MildWild 8.0JG, MIUI XJ 2.3.7, OxyZM 1.2) - all load but always the Desire runs in Safe Mode. This is shown by the words "Safe Mode" in the bottom left of the screen and a failure to run any downloaded Apps.
Other ROMs (BCM-RC4.1U2 and Carbon KK Unofficial 20140430) run without Safe Mode and only minor glitches (most prominant seems to be an inability to enter 'standby').
Anyway, I'm trying to figure this all out. I now know the Optical Trackpad does not 'track' (ie does not react to swipes). Took me a while to figure as I had no idea what it is supposed to do. It does react to pushing (as some type of 'OK' button).
So, having read loads on the web it seems a failure in the Optical Trackpad makes the Desire run in Safe Mode. Likewise its failure seemed to interfere with the volume down in the original O2 firmware. The failure does not seem to be a problem newer Android versions (I think the BCM and Carbon ROMs use newer versions).
Anyway, anyone got any experience, ideas or suggestions. The phone is a great toy and I love a challenge, been good fun getting this far on a "dead phone". Really impressed with the screen, given I had never used a Smartphone before.
Anyone got an idea why earlier versions of Android cause the HTC Desire (with non-working optical trackpad) to go into safety mode, but later versions (v4 ish) do not? All for interest really, it is working pretty much 95% on 4.0.4 (Nikez Lente). Just minor issues on sleep and occasional volume changes - use "Black Screensaver" and that really helps conserve battery.